Fall of the 12 Colonies | Battlestar Galactica 

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"I don't think so."

Adama definitely had good instincts.

If it wasn't transmitted "in the clear" he might have thought that as well but they'd never transmit that for everyone to hear unless it was true

Yep. Compared to us, the 12 colonies was a massive Human empire a few centuries ahead of us. Probably several hundred billion people. The idea of all that falling in the space of a day is sobering. Of course, the Earth is also just an hour away from total destruction at any time too.

And that form of humanity went extinct within 80 years.

To be fair, he didn't know that's what it was- he was getting tech help and other... help. And next time you see Tricia, tell me Lil Jim wouldn't be do some of the thinking for you.

Nah. Totally worth it.

Worth it for Baltar

@@scesfizia Baltar on his death bed: @_@ worth it

not sure how many of the men would refuse six even if she was outright told the cost of the affair.

And ironic, because software can’t protect against a back-door attack. Such an attack is created by the developer himself. He is creating software to be used by someone else… but gives himself a secret door in .. or a secret key, if you like.

Plot twist nord vpn is made by cylons

Cylon 🤖

“This is not war! THIS IS PEST CONTROL!!”

Somewhere in the multiverse the "Battlestar CockRoachia" series is playing to rave reviews. Poor defenseless Blattodians against armies of tin cans known simply as "Raid"ers.

@@mvuto137 I would watch that show.

Well did humans think of the Cylons any differently? Theyre just tin cans.

not only that but the centurions that left at the end are probably still out there.

Completely erasing the entire point of how the cycle could have been ended; keep records and information for reference, and instead flipping the board to play the same game in the same way.

@@armni4619 if they had kept the knowledge and the technology then the cycle would have repeated itself even faster.

@@drunkdriver In what way? They know the cycle exists and happens. Evidence being the dead Earth. Keeping the knowledge lets them remind their future generations of the warning signs. They purposefully regressed themselves. We already saw in the ending that the cycle continues. Their abandonment of information storage did not change anything. Merely prolonged it. By keeping knowledge of the cylon wars, the previous earth wars, the kobol evacuation and agreement with the cylons, future generations would have a reference from which to decide whether to build A.I. and of they decide to do so, how to treat them.

@@armni4619 Keeping the knowledge means their hatred and desire for revenge for the destruction of the 12 colonies will continue to pass down through humanity. Future generations of humanity on new earth would then re-militarize and possibly re-ignite the cylon war with the mechanical cylons that are still out there or perhaps build cylons anyways because they are too foolish to heed ancient warnings.

Agreed, I prefer contested conflicts rather than one side having any kind of advantage.

While storywise that’d be a good way for many battlegroups to catch onto the backdoor quickly, it doesn’t really make much sense for a modern military to suddenly turn off all its key systems just to celebrate the decommissioning of a likely-already-unpowered old girl. :/ What happens if a bunch of terrorists decide to attack the ceremony and were waiting for the battlestars to be self-nerfed for maximum chaos?

I’d have it so that the CNP didn’t work (or a bugged patch made it inconsistently effective). This way, we get a similar effect without an overly-contrived cause. But gameplay-wise, I’d have it so that each side’s strengths & weaknesses would be magnified over time: -For the Cylons: As they engage the Colonials over time, they all gain more combat experience. This means that even if ships get destroyed, every new ship that’s produced will already be “veteran”. However, not having any nearby colonies to extract resources, this means attrition will hit hard in the long run. -Result: For every battle you complete (win or lose), your new ships get higher stats in accuracy/damage. However, as time goes on (or the more you lose ships), every subsequent ship built has lower health &/or is more expensive to buy. -This encourages players to fight as many easy-to-win battles as possible, while pressuring them to avoid attrition warfare & long campaigns. -For the Colonials: Having billions of citizens & tons of infrastructure means that construction of new ships won’t be too difficult, even with extensive casualties. However, as the war drags on, the quality of human crew members will gradually decrease as the pool of ready candidates starts drying up. -Result: Colonial ship production isn’t hampered by time (unless key worlds are captured), but with each new ship/squadron produced, accuracy &/or damage is reduced until they become “veteran”. This encourages players to hammer out the Cylons as hard as possible, while pressuring them to keep as many “veteran” ships alive as long as possible to counter the growing competency of the Cylons.

@@UGNAvalon Heck, just a regular patch overwrote an important part of the backdoor code. I mean, how many times do games do updates that break mods- and its not like the Cylons would be getting the patch notes...

@@UGNAvalon eh you can make it like “we’re showing our respect to the old girl by going offline “

You should play BSG deadlock. You can control a fleet in BSG with all the stats and details

@@davidring681 way ahead of you, played it since launch

Maybe some remnant of Earth is also alive. If not humans on the planet, then at least some form of life

@@marcusblackwell2372 plus planets are HUGE. tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of square miles of space. Lots of places life (and humans) could survive. but I do get why the show didn't explore that

@@dartmada9733 if we can destroy the entire world ten times over and russia can destroy it 30 times over. I think you underestimate how effective nuking a planet can be. The radiation would be infused into all the water and food and plant life on each planet. Humans would fade away after a few years. Maybe a decade.

@@davidring681well anyway. great show

Deffo in places like the jungles of Scorpio

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Half of them got Yeeted into a black hole by a Pissed Humanity and the Other Half Assimilated into It,Lets just hope that the Fifthteen Colony of Humanity does not Fall(Original 12,New Caprica,Earth Original,Neo-Earth(Our Earth),and that is not counting kobol),Holy shit in that world when Humanity Eventually Get FTl Again they will wave a Wealth of archeology to Dig

They hit all of the Colonies at the same time.

As close as possible to the same time; they had a big enough fleet to lay waste to the Twelve Colonies- and any ancillary colonies/outposts- simultaneously, then started hunting for any traveling between them. Edit- more important and military-rich targets (Caprica, Scorpia, Picon) did get the bulk of the fleet initially.

I can at least say that they did a better job of Baltar than what they did with the original Galactica where he was just straight up evil. In the new one, they, more or less, gave him a little bit of a redemption (at the end) and I appreciate that they did that.

@@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 I liked evil balter from the first series, A human traitor who just sold his own people out for the hope of being the vassal ruler of them. To be honest is quite realistic really, and the show did show he was no leader.

I recognise at least some of it from "Battlestar Galactica: Razor"

So Say We All.

That and the history of the colonies and their conflicts with each other

All This Has Happened Before

@@TheCapricaProjects All of this shall happen again

@@McTeerZor “You know he doesn’t like that name”. “Silly me, silly me”

Didnt expect you to find you here, but i guess experimental music inspires from a lot of sources.

Thanks! His version of the Colonial Anthem is one of those tracks that gets me pumped up no matter how many times I hear it.

Just finished my sixth viewing the music is so good and visuals hold up.

I did that today, unknowingly this video would later show up in my recommendations. “All along the watchtower”, that was the track, properly preceded by “Heed the call”, of course.

Love Apocalypse

Well to be fair, the issue wasn't the networking, the issue was the backdoor. The issue was the infiltration. A proper encryption would be what saves their systems, Cylon or no, you can make encryption methods that would take millions of years to break and gain access. Of course there wouldn't be much you could do about the massive nuclear bombardment, but at least the fleet wouldn't have been smeared.

"This is a joke, it's a retirement prank, c'mon." We tend to forget and deny constantly, like nothing could possibly happen to us.

Galactica: We Colonial Fleet: We Galactica: Don't Colonial Fleet: Don't Galactica: Network Colonial Fleet: Network Galactica: Computers Colonials Fleet: Computers Galactica: We don't network computers. Colonial Fleet: I am networking everything.

The Colonials were fighting alien machines in the original. Basically a foreign power unconnected to them.

In their defense, the cylons hadn’t been heard from in 40 years. I imagine that after a while people thought it was safe to construct networked systems again. Also there was no way of knowing about a back door that was built into their navigation system that could be remotely hacked.

From the show, I gathered that humanity didn't survive. It's implied with the discovery of "Mitochondrial Eve" in the last scene that Kobol humanity gave rise to a human/Cylon hybrid race...us. So should we call ourselves "Cyman" or "Hulon"? 😂

I Remmeber that There its a Battlestar Galatica Mod for Homeworld that has one Scenario,The Virus Goes Through But the Colonial Fleet Manages to Defeat it Before The Entire Fleet go Down Several Colonies Are Nuked but the Colonials Manage to Repel the First Wave,in the Scenario you control the Atlantia and Several Others Battlestars as They Form a Blockade to Stop the Main Cylon Fleet in orbit of Caprica Led By Cavil once and for all,Also Gaius is Executed for High Treason There are 3 Endings Ending 1:The Colonial Fleet Holds the Line(If you are Good Enough you can do it Without Losing a Single Ship) This Cripples The Cylons as Even with Resurection most of their Fleet is Lost,Ending 2 is Repealing the Invasion with assistance From Galatica(if You Lose Enough Battlestars Galatica and Valkyrie will Jump in Behind The Cylons with The Main Cast Aboard,Apollo,Starbuck as Hero Units),The Third ending is The Bad Ending as the Entire Fleet is Destroyed including Galatica Dooming Humanity(You got to be Very bad in the game through to get this ending,as The 2 Mercuries in the Fleet can Knock out 4 Baseships Before they even have a Chance to Respond,Most likely you will Decimate the Cylons Without Galactica even arriving,Who needs her Anyways?)

Same

now that would be a fun reboot of a great series, how it would go with a prolonged defensive war, where the cylons regularly do suicide nuking and worse on the colonies. you can defeat them, but the damage they do in the meantime stays.

If we're going into an alternate timeline, I'd rather see a reboot of the first Cylon war, one in which one side or the other could actually win. The Cylons could still infiltrate the Colonials with brainwashed, blackmailed, or even willing human prisoners.

what did cylons do after they destroyed all 12 colonies

Genocide on that scale is unimaginable. A population of billions reduced to a few thousand in less than a day. It boggles the mind.

@@hokutoulrik7345 It's true- the unfortunate thing is that our best literary tool for explaining it tends to be POV characters and the loss of specifically named people, which in and of itself is antithetical to the whole concept.

@@paulbobenhausen8031 Humans cannot comprehend vast scale numbers, like millions or billions. It's not a lack of empathy, it's just a lack of cognitive hardware and software to be able to picture it (so to speak). I remember hearing a story about a whole middle school started a paper butterfly memorial of the holocaust. Mostly for the children that were lost in it. Around 1.5 million of them were received in a cooperating museum, and when those middle school children saw the shear scale of it all... Many broken down, and some couldn't handle it.

the only way to break the cycle is get humans to consider non human life equal to theres which unfornatly is quite rare look at the discourse around fallout 4 and how people talk about synths essentially cylons even in real life people ignore them being printed people and just say "no its a machien it should have no rights or remorse shown to it".

@@wilmagregg3131 Yeah, no, I don't mean that point but you're right there. I meant, he said "Natural Life against Artificial one" or something like that, and I asked if there's even "natural Life" still around. Because we don't know how many circles were there already and so on.

Can't see that in todays atmosphere, imagine all the Cylon frickers out there no one would want to go to war with their robot love partners and there would be campaigns to cancel the government for robot rights.

Well, does wanting to kill all humans count as a plan?

I've argued with him several times- the Cylons ABSOLUTELY had a plan... it was the same one as Bender. "Hey baby, wanna kill all the humans?" Everything else was made up on the fly- but that was the plan.

Man. Imagine if someone like J. Michael Straczynski had wrote BSG and everything had been written out ahead of time. This show could have been 10x more awesome than it already was.

@@Sephiroth144 That's a goal of a plan, not the plan itself.

Of course there was a plan (they even made a TV movie called "Battlestar Galactica: The Plan"). They couldn't make a coordinated surprise attack without a plan. Infiltrate certain agents into certain positions beforehand. Build so many ships and raiders to such and such specifications. Identify specific software to sell the Colonials and put this and that back doors in it which are activated using these and those codes. Send X base stars and Y raiders with Z nuclear warheads to Picon at time T after rendezvousing at such and such coordinates. And so on. Saying the Cylons didn't have a plan to take down the 12 Colonies is like saying the Allies didn't have a plan to invade Normandy.

People are jerks and the Galactica has a bunch of guns.

@@TemplinInstitute This can be applied to many realities. Even our own. Thanks

I won't give you context here in case you want to watch it (do, it's great!), but the very last scene of the series asks the question "Will the cycle be broken this time?".

@@JammyPajammies Apparently not, since another reboot of the franchise is on the way. Here's to hoping that they keep with the remnants of the previous cycles being found in the new one.

The cycle can't be broken, because the writers are hacks who literally made the story up as they went. They had a cool concept, for the remake but never actually thought it out in detail. The ending of the show is so mindnumbingly stupid and don't get me started with the whole thing on how Starbuck found the location of our Earth. Basically, from season 3 onwards, you can tell that the writers had lost the plot, so they came up following explanation: ''this is all God's plan..." This show started off as a great, grimdark, military Sci-Fi, touching on philosophical, social issues and then basically deteriorated into mystical nonsense. As for why the Galactica survived as long as it did: originally, the ship was decomissioned to become a museum and it wasn't connected to the Colonial Navy's computer network, afterwards it survives because of plot armor.

I agree , but there is a new series in development set in tye same universe helmed by the guy that done Mr robot .

Funny how Geminon was left out.

Very short anwser: machine punch weeeeeee

Clever Social Engineering 😂

I liked the idea of the ending, an attempt to break the cycle yet in all likelyhood a repeat of the cycle...i like it picking up on that central theme again.

As far as i read 99% of the people hate it, the other 1% kind of accept it Mostly because of the throw away all of the techs instead of recording the whole thing into history to prevent it from happening again

@@paulhudson8725 yeahhh that part aleays confused me you know there was going to be a group of people who did exactly that no matter what and kept all the tech they could?

Hate it to bits. I just watch until Galactica shows up over Luna and then click off, those last five minutes are utter nonsense. I like to imagine that maybe they found modern day Earth and moved in alongside us instead, a far less terrible ending.

If you consider the series ending three minutes early, then I'm okay with it. (Granted, a little bit of eye-rolling for everyone going with Lee's "abandon everything" bit so easily- needed some actual push back on that front...)

I'd say the UN-MW was the most horrific (from the list); the experimentations shown in the Animatrix are pretty messed up. But the Fall of the 12 Colonies was definitely the most effective and brutal.

Shit, I'm still pissed with that mission where they destroy the Galleon- the single greatest find in your civilization, and you don't even TRY to preserve it, or even send teams aboard to download computers, pull artifacts/computers, anything...?

@@Sephiroth144 If they had then the whole fall of the colonies probably wouldn't have happened. The signal was the starting point that would've led to Kobal then to the 13th tribe's Cylon earth. I hate that they nerfed my favorite mission. The one that was supposed to be a rescue mission but turned out to be a trap by the SDU. Originally you jump in and your ships are disabled. All you can do is launch fighters. Then it's a careful game of using your vipers to defend and attack while prioritizing which ships and systems to bring back online first. And they up and got changed it so that it's no challenge at all.

@@CrazyNights1015 Yeah, that one was brutal... (I must've done my playthru before they changed it.) Of course, I'm not sure how much I by the "13 Tribes AND NO ONE ELSE" hypothesis for Kobol- there definitely seems to be a third part (Lords of Kobol and all that) in the mix. Doesn't quite fit otherwise IMnsHO.