False AI Art Accusations Are a PROBLEM (& How to Disprove Them) || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY 

i hate when people say real art has an "A.I artstyle" like no, it's the A.I that stole the style, not the other way

My friend told me someone accused a person drawing Ford from Gravity Falls of using AI because he has "too many fingers". Ford has 6 fingers on each hand (polydactyly) it's not AI he just has 6 fingers

If we just followed the blanket rule of not harassing others on the internet, instances like this over a wide variety of contexts and situations wouldn’t be a problem 🤦‍♂️

It’s sucks how Many artists get accused for using AI, even though Ai is the one that steals off of those artists :(

I ran into this somewhat recently. My spouse had commissioned some art that, at a glance, ticked a lot of “AI art” boxes, but my initial response was to look closer, make sure the styles matched, look for WIPs, timelapses, etc. There was definite guilt for having suspected it, and a growing dread that this suspicion is so reflexive even being an artist myself. My only consolation is I didn’t make these concerns public, as I didn’t want to risk damaging the artist’s credibility if they were legitimate.

It really upsets me. The number of times I’ve commissioned artwork, gotten WIPs at every stage, then see the artist get bombarded with AI accusations is really disheartening

I was accused of using AI months ago because of a design I made, because supposedly what I painted couldn’t possibly be made by a human. This person harassed me and my friends for days. It was a nightmare. I tried to provide evidence and explain what I did and they wouldn’t stop with their BS. It’s come to the point that I no longer strive for my art to look polished and good so that people won’t accuse me of this again, which feels like a step back in my progress to me (I’ve been painting for over 15 years)

Great and insightful video! Am going to be honest, at one point, when I got "This is AI" comments on my art, which are very obviously watercolour on paper dragon puppets, I got to believe that some people just make this accusations to create unnecessary drama…

I haven't even started the video, but I have to say: yeah. AI Accusations aren't something to throw around. That ai art you saw was based off someones actual work. it's going to look like others work.

No matter what you say, no matter how you say it, if people want to weaponize your words, they are gonna do it anyway. For those who are inherently vicious, toxic and violent, any excuse is a good excuse to attack someone else. So don't be so hard on yourself.

Off topic, but can I just say I love your webtoon "Inside." As someone with severe, housebound agoraphobia I started tearing up just reading the first chapter.

I second-guess so many artworks now because of AI and I hate it. I want to go back go the time where I didn't have to closely inspect an artwork to see if it's AI or not. And I knew as soon as AI started to become a problem, I knew that false AI accusations would follow and it really sucks And every time I make a mistake in my art, like I forget to carry on a line in the background, or I mess up the hands, I worry that someone might think my art is AI because of it. I inspect my own art closely to see if there's anything that might make someone think it's AI ughhhhh

So glad that I'm already in the habit of keeping my files and using CSP's time-lapse feature. Though I never thought it could be used as protection against AI art accusations. 😅 Makes me miss the simpler times of when people would just accuse one another of tracing instead.

Your avatar's face at 24:40 was so perfect. Great timing, and matching exactly how we all feel hearing you say that part of your video.

Kinda makes me glad that i could never easily adapt to digital art. No matter what program i download, no matter the equipment i can afford, something about switching to digital is way too overwhelming for me compared to traditional art. All of the pen types, layers, equipment, line widths...its just too much for my adhd and ocd! Give me a number 2 pencil and a sketchbook and i am far more relaxed and able to produce some, 5 out of 10 level quality (always room for improvement), works that i then take a snapshot of because i can't afford a scanner/printer, and post it on deviantart. Though at the same time i want to get into making silly videos for youtube without stealing Noodle's schtick with paper puppets on a popsicle stick. So i need to somehow overcome that hurdle. Believe me though i truly feel bad about digital artists being accused of using AI and wish i could weigh in with a suggestion that isn't just "switch to traditional".

This will definitely push some younger artists away due to many (I have experience and am a young artist) not recording their art,don’t use layers, make mistake a TON, accidentally (I don’t use references a lot ) ref an AI piece without knowing due to apps like Pinterest being flooded with AI pieces .

Your video unintentionally helped the conspiracy theory minded people. The reason conspiracy theories are so successful is (while obviously a multitude of additional reasons) laregly in part because people want to feel smarter about something. Like they're able to see the truth while others cant. So take that, plus a bit of the Dunning-Krueger effect, and the want to catch a villain, and you get a bunch of people calling out everything as ai.

A pet peeve of mine is when people claim to detect AI art by “looking at the choices made in the piece and thinking if a real human would do that.” I kind of get it, but also- that’s so subjective! How can you know exactly what every human artist would be thinking while they are drawing? It comes off as pretentious and poorly researched.

I'm glad someone is talking about this! People don't seem to realize how that can ruin an artist's reputation or how insulting that is in this day and age. Personally, I've recently seen so many people in the Warrior Cats fandom falsely accusing that a cover artist for a graphic novel (Tigerstar and Sasha) used ai and it's just awful. Artists falsely accusing other artists seems counterintuitive because I would imagine that is something ai bros want to happen to prove their points.

I would also like to say that a good way to prove your innocence is through showing your art meta-data. This is the data about the image such as time taken, date made and last updated, colour type or every brush stroke. For example Procreate would be under Canvas Information, I believe all programs have this automatically and there isn’t really a way to turn it off if I’m away of. You could take a screen shot of these or a video of you going on it from the piece, AI doesn’t really know this exists right now and what this looks like on each program. I recommend you look up how to find this on each program since I don’t know how to find them on anything other then procreate (For procreate press the wrench then tap canvas, at the bottom it would say canvas information and you click that) , I don’t think many know about this so there isn’t anyone trying copy it for AI.

Gotta point out algorimic art has been around for decades, but it used to require someone to know a bit of math before they created it, & it was based on math alone, not on other peoples' art. That last bit is the problem: the newer systems are based on other peoples' still-copyrighted works. Older style fractal mountain ranges & abstracts are fine, & kinda cool to look at.

Since when is it such a thing in the art community to blindly accuse other people of things, forcing them to put out a statement, only to accuse them of lying? I feel like people just took a basic societal rule and threw it out of the window. Firstly, you don't accuse others for no reason, secondly, you don't lie, and lastly, you have trust that the other person is telling the truth.

I am an artist that loves to try out all sorts of different styles, and whenever I read/hear people talking about how "Inconsistent style" is indicative of someone using AI, I always get so scared. Cause, yeah, my style is often very inconsistent. (T^T)

AI isn't going away I have played around with it and was underwhelmed it takes the fun out of art. honestly this is like how people go on tracing hunts the art community seems to all ways try to say that you did not make your art . The way I see it if their not selling it ignoring them is the best way to go.

What if every time we suspect someone of ai we put them on trial in ace attorney online

this channel keeps me cautiously optimistic

someone drew ford from gravity falls and got accused of using ai because of the extra fingers like can we use some critical thinking skills please

I've been accused of using AI for my art multiple times and I make it a point to never show proof until they've shown proof first. Usually by this point they'd fold and I've never had to provide proof to anyone I don't use AI to this day. I don't even record timelapses. I think many AI accusers are just sad trolls who wanna bully others behind a screen. Most of the time just standing up for yourself is enough for them to back off. In my case they usually delete their comments and/or block me, it's honestly hilarious.

It's times like these that I am infinitely grateful that I was so obsessed with how beautiful, expressive, and versatile hands can be back when I started doing art. I put a ton of effort into drawing hands before AI came out and it's served me well. Also, I guess it helps that I draw in a style (bold, clean lines and cel shading) and subject matter (robots that MUST have almost pixel perfect construction and symmetry to look right) that AI still struggles very hard with. I have made a habit of making time lapse of all my full pieces though, just to have evidence to quash any accusations.

Demanding that artists prove they drew something beyond taking screenshots of the art program kinda screws over anyone using a less robust drawing app. Like, I use Sketchbook (the free version) on a fairly old tablet. Saving images as a png is my only option. Timelapses or the images themselves can get corrupted or accidentally deleted. It's just unreasonable for people to expect artists to provide so many layers of proof that they actually created their art.

It's another case of calling people witch

Square space as cute anime girl? Glasses, office wear, black high heels, toast in mouth, and trying to race to the elevator in heals

Regarding accusing someone without proof: this is the whole nature of the cancel culture. People are too eager to jump on a train without actually looking into the case in detail or being aware of how it might ruin someone's life. Sadly, many realize that such lynch mobbing is very destructive only when they themselves or someone related to them become a victim of such behavior. No matter how many videos you make or write about it, humans simply do not learn. Empathy is rare.

I have never deleted my .psd/ .sai files. I never feel like anything is truly finished. I just store those on an external harddrive. I mean I have lost a few in my 20 +years of digital art. I also save different file trees when I do need to merge pieces together.

I wonder what I should do about having proof if I'm a traditional artist....

watching this was really insightful i work with 2d and 3d materials and in 3d circles really passionate great 3d artists who build models but might not be able to rig or texture very well (cause 3d like any art form has people who are better at somethings more than others ) often get accused of being ai simply because of things like clipping errors being present or a model looking a bit too well textured. especially in the 3d character model circles. there was already alot of in fighting in some of those communities before ai cuz its a pretty common practice for there to be really well done publicly available rigs of popular characters most often used for college students or demo reels. there were communities that would in fight over whether a model was an original build based on another character or if it was just being passed off as one. soon as ai came into the mix there became alot more questions of "how do we know your just bad at doing X and not passing off a ai model " . the solution for them became to show the uv mapping. sort of like showing your file layers.

i use ibis paint x and can only save my file as either a png or a jpeg ;-; (though i guess if it came down to it i could show the file within the app directly? idk)

0:37 I’d tend to agree with you on all of those front aside from the reference parts and really it’s mostly just for posing and nothing more.

14:34 I'm very much in this boat of artists. I draw using Photoshop so I don't have timelapses of all my pieces. I only have my laptop to work off of, so whenever I record, it's only Photoshop and OBS that I will have actively open. And any timelapse I record ALWAYS gets turned into a speedpaint for my channel. That's just the way I've always done things

I always take WIP screenshots even if I don’t share them with people. My style looks nothing like the kind that is used in AI art but I still like to be cautious just in case. I’m the kind to improve the more I draw and when my mental health isn’t garbage so I worry lol

I’m at a point where if i see someone using Ai art or I think they are using it I either. A. Soft block them B. Scroll past them cause it isn’t my job to police people who may or may not be using Ai art. I don’t condone people using Ai art as their own, and I do believe to some degree they need to be called out on it. But at the end of the day it isn’t our job to police every individual we see who uses Ai art. I’ve come across countless RU-vid channels that make music playlist that opening admit they use Ai art and link it. Which makes my job easier to block those who use Ai art. It’s really hard to tell these days who is using Ai art and who isn’t. But I do agree we shouldn’t be harassing people who may or may not be using Ai art. I really hate to say this but just block them and go on with your day. It is impossible for us to police every artist we come across and I understand the worry and skepticism. But at this point there is only so much you can do. Unless you work in a professional environment or if you’re getting a commission I 100% agree that you should speak out on it. Like what celestial said. But you’re only one person who can only do so much to prove your innocence or call out the Ai artist. :/

I have a question: wouldn't be recording oneself while drawing on paper in the same style we use digitally and showing that we have authentic skills be enough to make people who claim us to be an AI impostor to shut up? Isn't some traditional art warm-up here and there effective in proving that we're actually able to make those artworks not only without AI but without a computer even?

false accusations can destroy an artist I have friends that were on Deviant when AI hit the fan two year ago and still haven't recovered from the Nightmare. With artist at each others throats the onslaught of false accusations many have left the platform. one of my friends, who was there yeas before AI and had a following of thousands, left then came back a few moths ago with a new account. but is so shell shocked that they haven't posted any distal art for now they think that AI dose a better job than they can which in my opinion is stupid. I,m sorry but the only people that should be concern If its AI or not are "paying" clients and the artiest that are trying to make some money. or people that love art for art sake. If your that concern just go to an platform that doesn't Allowed AI or find a local artist that can take a look at the piece and can give you a second opinion. A good artist, like me can usually tell.

The duplicating file and merging the layers in one file and keeping the layers in another file is a good advice. As someone who used to do screen video of my digital artwork process sometimes using another application for screen recording can make Photoshop app laggy, and had exported videos that when I play the video there are part of the process that was skipped, so it's kind of useless. Also, I had a low-end PC and sometimes had full storage space, that are also the problem. By making duplicate layers in every stage of the process is not just helpful for checking some changes you made but also as proof in situation where someone was accusing you of using AI references.

Today I learned that people delete their work files nah that stays on me forever

It sucks when true artists get accused, and sucks also when the guilty are able to fake evidence to keep scamming. Its such a lose lose for all involved. AI is a plague

I feel like its enough to record one drawing. That ought to show you're skilled enough to make the work you're making and that your process does produce the quirks seen in future and past projects. Obviously only for a limited time as you will likely improve and change past the point of recognizability. Still that means you can get away with recording like at most every tenth piece and maybe the wildly true experimental ones.

Hay! Artists who use ibisPaint! By default (as long as you have Timelapse’s on) you can save a time lapse that shows when you zoomed in and out! And if you screen record your Timelapse and show you entering and leaving your drawing program that’s very reliable!

If someone accused you of using ai, of course youd be defensive. I hate how people think being defensive or trying to prove yourself is a sign that youre stealing. Also i understand that we all want to be wary of ai art but accusing people and pointing fingers will only isolate us. We should be suspicious but still be willing to be open minded.

Gonna be real. It's gonna be impossible to see if someone uses AI or not. The only proof is to see a recording of them drawing (with their hand, not a recording of a speed drawing). Also, many more artists are now using ai and then fixing the mistakes of the ai and posting it, and no one can blame them for that, they make a quick bank with good art. If someone copies from an ai art and they are somewhat well versed in art, they can fix all of them mistakes and no one would realize that it was just a copy with some fixes here and there. Lmao we're fucked.

I recently realized a popular romace webtoon (even published) was ai and it definitely isn't in the "style" folks keep an eye out for. It is the common reincarnation art style. I only noticed because the ai modder got SUPER lazy in filtering out the obvious slop in the second story. The first comic hid it with letting the worst slop be on important text scenes. The second had a close up of obvious slop. Keeping it vague for the obvious reason.

4:25 this is how i'm learning you're sapphic lol

I still think time lapses can be used as proof especially if it's longer. In Clip Studio you can pick the length of the exported video. You can also take photos of your whole setup with the program and layers visible while you're working.

Recently i saw someone with more knowledge on general photography and photoediting show how images are AI generated based pff the technicality of a peice and not the general appearance If you look past the general telltales of AI art and zoom in to images to see their pixels and noise textures its easy to spot. Ai images generate fake JPEG and general compression artifacts that do not make sense or match the format of the image, because of how some ai models were trained they took artifacts from given compressed images and adapted them into the model. This is how far ai has come, it takes knowing how image formats work on a technical level to tell when something is wrong.

The worst is that Ai is not only taking away hiper rendericed art that requires more effort, but that is causing his devaluation.

Thank God since I started drawing I never deleted any of my drawing files or merged they on my programs(as I use my previous drawing for pick colors when I need), now time-lapse I need to remember to let that feature on. 😅

Wouldn’t be a problem if people would stop being scared to learn the difference in art styles. You can make them all human, all AI, or use either to retouch a final product. Plus also fear in general of something new and fear of losing your job. We’ll learn to fix the problems with AI and you’ll have another job waiting for you. People that are scared through words around as if they are smartest thing on the planet.

I feel like ibispaint has a great solution, they record even the actions in the file and if you post it to your website, even better. I still believe this is a serious issue and I hope at least other companies implement this powerful feature (it even allows you to restore files corrupted files)

Ai generated art time lapses exist? That's actually crazy, I can't think of any reason someone would want that other than faking actual art?

2:30 Drawing conclusions with minimal evidence has been the norm through human history. Often, we need to make a decision quickly, without time to gather more evidence, to avoid danger. Quick conclusions work here, but we're built for them, so we fall back on them.

My pal was accused of AI just purely bc she was good at rendering, and seeing her art journey and knowing FULL WELL she doesn't use AI, just kinda hurt me sm :'> I haven't been accused, but I feel second hand sadness from friends who do. Like-- commonnnn :'/ I've noticed- it's mainly TikTok and Twitter that main accusations come from? I don't touch those socials so I could be 100% wrong, but that's def where I've noticed it most.

21:12 "Artists have been known to delete them once each piece of art is finished." ?????????????????????? No! Don't do that to yourself! I genuinely hope people don't do this.

i remember i got a comment once on my tiktok saying i should go draw a bunch of hands to prove im not using ai. The problem is, i struggled at the time drawing hands as im not as good as drawing people as i am with animals. I did revise that drawing, making the hand less cartoony and more realistic but damn. I honestly really liked the more stylized style, its a shame i had to change it because of ai

I literally just got my first art tablet ever with the confidence to even start putting stuff out. The fact that ai accusations is insane and I deffinently can't screen record on it because the ram already gets ate by either csp or ibis.

Never satisfied with the outcome of my work so I always keep those .cps files. But I'm not a professional so not really sure how worried I should be.

I enjoy doing videogame fanarts since I can remember and was always happy about the feedback in reddit comments or social media when I upload my work, but lately on many subreddits (especially on Nintendo and Zelda related ones) there is at least one user who just throw in a sassy "That looks like AI" comment in just on the basis of shallow aspects like sloppy rough pencil lineart or simplified hands like I always used to do when I draw chibi characters for instance (the typical glove or sphere like hands), and it makes me sad to think how many young artist and potential talents were nipped in the bud or got their motivation crushed just because people are carelessly trashing their hard work this way with empty words. And yeah, those people get quickly well-disposed as soon as you deliver some evidence, like posting GIFs or videos of short mid-progress recordings of the drawing process or by showing the layer hierarchy, but it's really sad we come to this point that genuine artists must provide extra steps of evidence to get their hard work be acknowledged as such... ...while at the same time, obvious AI grifters exists in parallel who get away unnoticed by the same accusers for some funny reason and get even complimented for "their talents of creating one beautiful high quality rendered pinup girl after the other" in form of frequent posts every few hours every day constantly without ever having to post a single sketch or video, while on top somehow convinced hundreds of users to buy their 300+ $ paywall generated literal sameface 6+finger pinup mishmash. The art world and industry already had its rough issues to deal with years ago but with AI it all accumulated into an even more overly exploitative, parasitic mess.

Squarespace x Duchess's confirmed??? ❤❤❤

Sisterrrr same with me! I often forget to click screen record on my iPad (this was before ClipStudioPaint got their auto timelapse feature), it was so frustrating to get the full speedpaint footage because I then made myself draw for longer hpurs per session instead of taking frequent brakes (which did a number on my health 😭). And then having to import all that to laptop to edit. I thought CSP finally having timelapse like Procreate would be the end of my woes, and for a while it was, and then… freakin A.I. started to make timelapses and I just facepalm like ohmyGODD! Now it seem I’d have to go back to the previous speedpaint footage way just to be safe and for this same reason as the video, to have proof to disprove any accusations before they can even think about it. Hhh… oh my gosh.

Kinda makes me feel like I should deliberately practice some of the things I don't do well when it comes to art so that I don't lose that flawed aesthetic, but I suppose these algorithms, while generally having a very clean/polished result, can replicate that too

20:05 I do everything on the same layer. I never create new layers (I love suffering). Switch layers 20 times just to fix 2 strokes seems like a nightmare.

the winner of the duck stamp competition was accused of being AI art. it was a traditionally painted acrylic piece!

The AI Paranoia is getting out of hand

its quite the compliment to get you art called ai generated, just shows that they are in shock of how good it is

How to disprove them when being accused for making "AI" art: Step 1: Show sketches Step 2: Show WIPs Step 2.5 (optional): Timelapse video Step 3: Tell that clown who accused you that they're wrong Step 4: If tweet's popular enough, shill the fuck out of your own art.

If possible, you can also temporarily film with a phone camera part of your art process or go live if possible. While it is not always an option, but if you are accused and need to prove it's not, start a new piece using these methods and it can help you prove it

I don’t know why. But these false accusations feel like they are trying to distract us from groups of people/companies who are trying to defend AI too. Like, the sort of scenario where two types of people are fighting each other. While the real villain is on the sidelines and rubbing their hands with glee.

When i use medibang the timelaspe is my favorite feature. Its pretty basic and shows all the layers i use and most files i have several layers are saved on the cloud

This can be easily dispelled if people started recording their processes. Of course some AIBros trying to copy this too but little do they know, some of us can use traditional mediums and can't be easily replicated. Not to mention, they are actively contributing to the heat ☠ of the world (can't say THAT word or RU-vid will block it).

The worst thing about AI is that it continues to improve, meaning it will only get harder for people to distinguish real art from AI-generated images. I have given up trying to filter out AI images when looking for art because it's just too exhausting. There are AI prompters--yes, not artists--PROMPTERS, using models trained on specific artists that have big followings on Twitter like Kittew, Asura, and ThiccWithAQ. And they are setting up goddamn patreons to sell their "work" which looks 99% identical to something those artists might make. We officially live in hell.

Thank god I already take progress pictures cause I get hasty and start sending my wips to my friends as I'm drawing the art ...dammit

the memory and filesize is the thing why I don't do time lapses It's just to much space I need second thing my scatterbrain just forgets to make them. Edit: I always keep the sourcefile however idk why I just do even versions of them x'D

Like I've got 4tb of local storage and even with that Krita was eating up my free space due to how long I takes for me to create a drawing. Livestreaming is another option if you're into that sort of thing and doesn't tax your local storage. Unless we end up with some tech to prove authorship I think we're going to have to give up and just take things as given.

As a traditional artist, it's nearly impossible for me to recognise an AI fak timelapse, because I have no idea of how digital artists work and the options that their tools give them, so even the weirderst steps could be presented to me as something that can be done with digital tools.

I wonder how many of those accusers are artists themselves or even art appreciators. There are a lot of grifters and rage bait tourists on the social medias these days.

Benefit of the Doubt

AI has ruined everything tbh.

You are getting Shipped with square space! O M Gess! Lmfao! Can’t breathe…. If you figure out how to draw that, please Please Do a speed background behind a video.

Time to wait, for sponsorship block to work on this video

Whenever I see someone posting 'AI' I ask them to explain their reasoning. If they can't, then I will call them out for posting opinion as fact. Your suggestions of keeping layers and etc is similar to my suggestions for writers. Keep all your drafts. Thanks for the call to stop accusations. As you said, if you didn't hire the artist, it isn't your job to police the artist. Too many people with too much time on their hands trying to police the art world without the skills to do so. Even if you think you have the skill, it still isn't your job, and given how fast AI is changing, you probably don't have the skill either.

Never thaught this 'till now but, I miss NFTS!

The fact AI Pictures (they're not art) does this in the first place is scary

So my habit of uh, using several layers in my .sai I feel....validated.

Is this what I've been missing-out on Twitter after I left like 2 years ago? Man, I feel sorry for anyone still on there. Never got this kind of abuse anywhere else, even when I was on Twitter. On the topic of the video, if I was constantly bombarded by these allegations I'd probably just end-up spinning it up as a joke eventually. Blurring the lines, and confusing the audience even more by mentioning, or teasing AI generated stuff (maybe even purposefully drawing bad hands), but never actually using it, or even better, advertising my art as "so good, people think it's made by an AI!". Probably just me though. Then again, I use vectors for all my art, and AI is just awful at replicating advanced vector techniques, so I have an easy out even if I get falsely accused. Though, I have to ask. How big is everyone's raw files? The biggest one I have is 500mb, but that's when I fist started drawing, and I've gotten much more efficient since. My average file size for these raw files now is closer to 30mb, and the final vector render is on average 0.5mb (the largest one being close to 2mb). And yet, even with close to 4 years worth of art, I can still fit all of it in a 64gb USB stick with about 10gb to spare. Bit of a brag sure, but I think it's also good to learn how to be efficient with these art programs like Krita, Photoshop, and Clip-studio to minimize disk usage on a project. It'll help a lot in the long run.

I haven't seen the previous video but that result is not very surprising. The problem is that to use the information properly you need a certain amount of expertise. That includes having enough expertise to be aware of when you are completely out of your depths. Unfortunately some people will take it to mean "after watching the video I am an expert at identifying AI art". The people who think false accusations are fine because the real ones can be proven are assholes. Those are the equivalent of a Denial of Service attack. Legitimate work has to be delayed to handle each false accusation.

Great video, very good sentiment. I am going to point out to be incredibly careful with what you use to record your screen and where you store that data. The same goes for those working files. Companies like google can and do scrape information from (for example) google drive. You might inadvertedly contribute to genAI getting to a point it can replicate screen recordings, too. I honestly think that we (I'm an artist too) shouldn't be playing this game with people demanding proof. I do not blame anyone who is upping their recordings and 'proof' but I'd rather stop sharing my art publicly than to start stressing out about all the ways bad faith actors will misconstrue my work. It's not worth the stress, and in a few years we might be out of ways to prove the negative. I happen to be someone that naturally keeps the working files of my art because I'm privileged enough to have the space for them. But it would be very sad if people felt pressured into adopting ways of working that don't fit with them as much. I think in the end I disagree with your conclusion that 'we shouldn't have to, but with how things are we have to, anyway'. I think we should refuse. But I also recognize that either choice has its own set of layered consequences and whichever an artist goes with I just hope it's the one that's best for them.

Funny thing about artistree.... it's regionblocked in my country. Sooooooooooo...

Why people obsess over what stranges say in the first place? You know your truth and the people that care about you also do. If people start turning against you, they probably haven't cared nor trusted you that much to begin with so it's better to let them go. Taking them seriously will ruin your health. Get some levity. Edit: typos.

holy shit i'm so early wow first also yay new duchess celestia video!

Wait people delete their .clip files when they're done?? I have every single one from the past four years...

people also can't draw hands sometimes which is ok,it just means someone needs more practice drawing hands....No need to be mean to these people for that though!