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@@scottp302 He was the Jar Jar Binks of the DCEU. One of the worst casting choices ever. He might have made a decent Riddler (better than the guy in The Batman) but he wasn't even close to being right for Lex Luthor. Such a horrible pick.
@@I-speak-U-shut-it I dont know, pedro to me looks like that typical college physics teacher, so it could work, I wonder if they are going to change the name of reed and his background
100% agree. Pedro is as much of a Reed Richards as Ezra Miller was a Barry Allen. And don’t even get me started on what they did to Namor the Submariner.
Namor is one of my top three favorite villains-back when he still was mostly considered a villain-and I thought they did a really interesting mock up of him for a modern film adaption that distanced him from becoming what normies would've called him and you know it: Aquados. I also really enjoyed how they intertwined what seemed like Aztec&Mayan culture into his back story and kingdom. It was a really great breakaway from the same "king of Atlantis" schtick we get for both DC's and Marvel's number one amphibian.
Your right Pedro is the wrong age, wrong look and a ridiculous casting for Reed Richards, looks like her grandad. Fans were already excited about Krazinski. Why didn't they stick with him.
Krasinki has said a lot of times that cameo was just for the fans, but he didnt want to BE THE Reed Richards of the MCU. Thats why he wont be in this film
Snarky J: “...and what was wrong with John Krasinski?” Me: YES!!!! And Emily Blunt as SUE?!?! Netter (my wife): Calm down, sweetie. She can't hear you and you're hurting my ears.
Even if somehow they got the cast completely right, I’m not particularly interested since the MCU’s first official appearance of Mr. Fantastic was him getting ripped to shreds within five seconds in the one Dr. Strange movie everyone immediately forgot about (and no, the multiverse excuse does not help). So yeah, I’m just apathetic to it. Also I admit I kinda liked the old 2000s Fantastic Four movie. Unironically.
@@user-wk2rw7le3m to call Mr. Fantastic (who deserves better than shitty writing and direction) a D tier because he simply stretches is sheer, fucking stupidity on your part, and on the poor stewards running Marvel.
Whist his looks will fit well for the role, I would reckon that his height would have been an issue as he’s only about 5’ 8. They’ll need someone closer to 6 ft. Pedro Pascal is a a very bizarre option for the role, the shape of his face just don’t match any of the comic book iterations of Reed Richards
When the book debuted in 1960 Johnny was a teenager and Sue in her early twenties. While Reed and Ben where WWII Vets yes they were stated as being WWII vets it's why Reed had a touch of white in his hair. So there has always been a big age difference between Reed and Sue.
Per FF #11, the mail bag at the front of the issue, they were basically the same age. "But Sue, you know [you were the girl I thought of when I was in the war]! It's always been you, ever since we were kids together living next door to each other!" That would later be changed, but originally, they were the same age.
@@garypoisson2733 That was one of those moments where Stan forgot to do the math. Like in X-Men # 3 Charles thinks to himself how he was in love with Jean.
@@garypoisson2733Nah, he's right😅. I remember reading a reprint of Xmen 2 or 3 and when Xavier " thought" that about Jean, I remember being MAJOR Confused. Stan had a bad moment😅
@bronzetiger6360 I do know the Jean moment. Charles lighting his pipe and thinking "As though I could help worrying about the one I love!" about Jean. I'm asking for support for the large age differential between Reed and Sue in the early FF run; counter to the FF #11 bit that puts them as childhood sweethearts.
Adam Driver, Matt Smith and Jake Gyllenhaal all turned down the role of Reed Richards, after reading the part. It sounds like the premise is that Reed Richards is a neglectful and abusive husband and the film concentrates on Sue Storm finding her own inner strength to become leader of the F4. Pedro is an activist and doesn't mind taking a knee.
Nope. Too much to ask that we get actors who fit the role. Today, we fit the role to the actor. Well, nah, we don't even bother to do that. We just check the necessary DEI box and write a steaming pile of hot garbage for a script then blame audiences when they don't like it.
Exactly. They didn't even race or gender swap that much here. I pretty much agree with Snarky Jay here; the other three are mediocre who may or may not work but Pedro Pascal is horrendous, legitimately one of the dumbest men in Hollywood with his political takes, and doesn't even look the part. You can't fix this movie that jackass as it's star. This is Brie Larson and Ben Affleck all over again.
"Pero coño no jodas 😂" BTW the main reason John Krassinski didnt stay as Reed Richards is because Emily Blunt dosent wanna play Sue Storm. She hates comic book movies and has turned down Marvel since 2008 when they offered her the role of Black Widow
I read that she had to turn it down as she was already engaged in another film. Regardless, she did recently state that she doesn't want to play 'boss babe' hero type characters as they are rather boring to perform for her.
@@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97 says the guy with "there are only two genders" name. How much does gender politics really affect your life. Don't be baited by propaganda my dude.
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@@MichaelSmith-dk1lcYes he was. How else would you explain him being Reed's bodyguard. Jillian McMahon's Dr Doom telling himself that in order to destroy Reed he'll have to get his body guard👁️👁️
After the aweful cameo scene "the smartest man" title who also did the dumbest thing by telling Scarlet Witch how to destroy Black Bolt and He died in the Dr Strange 2 movie, so much backlashed was received I don't think John Krasinki will return.
That was the script though. IMHO the script was bad on so many levels that I don't blame any single actor for it. It didn't just do all the characters dirty, it did the entire sequel premise dirty for both Strange AND Wanda given that: #1. Strange and Mordo had an epic confrontation waiting to happen in DS2 - not Strange and Wanda. #2. Wanda already resolved her issues in WandaVision which just made MoM seem like it was kneejerk thrown together at the last minute with Wanda as the villain simply because they couldn't think of something better that wasn't based on an end credit scene from 5 years earlier. They really missed a trick in leaving developing the Strange/Mordo emnity out of Thor Ragnarok or Black Panther or (somehow) Captain Marvel - huge botch job. Having Strange/Mordo in Thor Ragnarok would have made far more sense than the Hulk anyway - and we could have had them set their problems aside to fight Thanos together for Infinity War.
The fact both that version (fancasted request,) and Inhumans Black Bolt were so humiliated tells me Feige was doing a carrot on a stick bait and switch troll move to fans. Similar to how awful She-Hulk was trying to disrespect the fanbase And Feige hates the Inhumans and Ike Perlmutter who kept pushing them
IGN had a headline, "Why Pedro Pascal could be the MCU's next Robert Downey Jr." ... They probably needed Pedro's gravitas (I kinda hate that word) to carry this universe considering past F4's bombs and recent Marvel duds. 3:10
RDJ might be the single best casting choice in all film history. He's certainly within the top 0.1% Without RDJ there would be no MCU. He carried the franchise. If Pedro can be 50% as good as RDJ he will be a success. It remains to be seen if he can do that. And yes, he will need to shave the stache. He owes us that much. A proper Reed Richards is clean shaven.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Heath was still following other performances of the Joker, many of whom were in the public conscious. RDjr had no template to play Iron Man. And while I thought the Iron Man films decreased in quality, he did help keep the MCU alive. Heath tho, his performance was ingenius. and he was rightly awarded an oscar, posthumously. It's just frustrating he never got to see the impact of his work.
Reed Richards and Sue Storm should have been played by Matt Bomer and Alice Eve, Damn I hate Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige, I so hope this movie gets canceled. 🤦🏾🤦🏾
Pulling a clip from Arrested Development earned you a reply 😘 and a well deserved 🤣 Marvel can do whatever they want, I have no stakes in this dog fight anymore. I'm just focusing on building a better world (Movies/series and Comics) and putting the rest of my energy into my first job, which I wish was a video editing or screenwriting position, but hey I got to start somewhere.
really hope this is set in the 60's of an alternate earth with crazy Jack Kirby tech. really want to see something new from marvel and giving it a weird aesthetic would really help. (presuming the ff's alternate earth is destroyed and they end up in post secret wars mcu. It is possible that pedro could become evil reed, the maker and we get another reed in future from another earth???)
I feel the same way you do Jay. Pretty meh choices, but Pedro Pascal is the wrong choice for Reed. But like you said, we have to click the checkboxes. Such a shame ☹️
BRUH SAME😢 In that movie it bothers me how they brought in Patrick Stewart back as Charles X. But not Ioan Grufford as Reed Richards. Both of those guys exist in 20th Century Fox of Marvel Entertainment. Bringing Kransiski on Dr Strange 2 was bad for business. That's like bringing in Tom Holland in that Captain America flick only to kill him off by The Winter Soldier and have a whole new actor EVEN WORST...an actor who ain't white as Holland's replacement for Spiderman Homecoming 😅😅😅
... and would say "wise" words like "learning doesn't stop at school. Even Einstein keep on learning until old age. I learned that I am not the smartest at all. Little boy Sheldon or the young Shikimaru from Konoha Village seems they are. And teach my fellow illuminati to stop calling me the smartest man alive. It's too cringe". 😁😁😁
The 2005 Fantastic 4 was superb casting. Each actor nailed their character in both looks, personality and simply the vibe you got off them. Gone are the days of casting for talent or to mirror the actor with the character. As we all know these days an actor is cast first and foremost for their skin color, sexual orientation or political views.
Ioan Gruffudd: Not impressed. But I was surprised when I learned that he voiced Mister Miracle in Justice League Unlimited. Michael Chiklis: The best actor in the cast. Chris Evans: I agree with Snarky Jay that he’s a better Captain America Jessica Alba: Nicest thing I could say about her is that I’d prefer to see her return for either Deadpool 3 or Secret Wars than see Margot Robbie play Sue Storm.
Bro what are you talking about? Everyone is white in this cast.... Before people say Pedro isn't, his family is from Spain and only recently went to Chile.
I honestly don’t see any issues here, all of them are proven to be excellent actors…. There isn’t even any race or gender swapping going on here. Pedro Pascal is a white guy… what’s the issue? Surely people aren’t upset he is Latino? Speaking Spanish (a European language) doesn’t mean you aren’t white, there is an entire country of white people who speak Spanish… Spain. Am I missing something here?
Always thought it was a missed opportunity not to have Stark, Banner and Richards in the same film. Agreed. I don't get science guy vibes from Pascal. Also holding breath and crossing fingers for good CGI.
They fucked up by not having PYM, Richards, Stark and Banner in the same room. Honestly, you really just need the first three as Banner is more or less superfluous when Richards is around.
@@SeanUCF In essence, Richards has the tech smarts of Stark and the spectral radioactive smarts of Banner, so only Pym brings his patented particles to that mix, and who's to say that Richards couldn't reverse engineer that on sight. The only one smarter than they are is DOOM... at least, that's what he'll say.
FACTS Kevin Feige is slow. He could've easily put Reed in Endgame for a 5 min screen time just to interact with Stark and Banner. With all this bs time travel going on that movie. They should've jumped back in the 1960s and met Richards. John Kransiski Richards 😛
@@I-speak-U-shut-it I'm fairly certain Disney hadn't bought Fox yet, certainly not by the time filming and production for End Game had started, so not a FACT at all. That being said, they do seem to be dragging their heels with lesser known heroes than getting to the good stuff with Fantastic Four and X-Men since the purchase.
The way you described how Quinn is exactly how they cast all roles. Who are the "it" people that we can market? Pedro, he's already everyone, why not add another role? Evan is big right now because of The Bear, Quinn is big right now because of Stranger Things. Pretty much just feels like they are throwing names at the roles without any thought going into the character at all.
I lost faith in Disney a long time ago. They continue to prove over and over again that they have no idea what they are doing. They also have zero respect for source material. Out of all the Star Wars trash that they have been producing, I would agree with you on Andor. I actually enjoyed that one as well. Unfortunately there are way too many people, writing, directing, producing and creating projects within these established franchises that have no business being there.
In the OG comics, Reed Richards was substantially older than Sue Storm… he was something like 12-15 years older than her. It’s only been over the last 20 years that writers have evened out the years between the characters.
Honestly I feel that the 2000's Fantastic Four movies were cast really well, they just weren't given the best material to work with. I have to admit, I was dreading seeing Pedro cast as Mr Fantastic because those rumours came alongside some broad plot details that sound atrocious but pretty much on brand for current Marvel. I'm hoping that one doesn't confirm the other or that they've course corrected since then because if they haven't then we're not in for a good time with this outing. Still, I suppose it can't be any worse than Fan4stic, right?... right?
Well the originals were more about Sue Storm since Jessica Alba was the "it girl" at the time. So now that Pedro has a similar thing going on, it's most likely going to feature him as the lead while the rest take a back seat. So I think you're dead wrong if history is any indicator.
Exactly, why even put Krasinski Doc strange as Mr. Fantastic if youre going to cast Pascal.... as Bill Nye would say "That just makes no fucking sense" Isnt Disney Marvel doing the multiverse thing? Then it should still be Krasinski. I dont know about this, man...
@@snarkyjayAt this point it's pretty obvious to me that Kevin Feige just put Krasinski as Reed Richards in DS2 for fans to STOP fancasting him as the character. So then they give Krasinski that stupid script and he was wasted in a mess of a movie, with Mr. Feige basically saying "Fu*#@ you!!!" to the fans.
i dont know how to feel about it, but that could be due to nostalgia to the first two movies. hard to top in my opinion but it seems like they went online a picked from the most vocal fancasts just cuz that who literally everyone was saying.
Literally Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany are 17 years apart in real life and yet no one complains about that Ryan Reynolds and Jodie Comer are 17 years apart too! Pedro Pascal and Vanessa Kirby age gap is not that bad in comparison Vanessa has played characters that date men who are way older than Pedro case in point The Crown
About the age gap. I might be wrong but wasn't it established in the comics that Reed was a college professor and Sue was one of his college students? I'm not saying that it's not creepy but I'm just saying that's how I remember it. That Reed was always considerably older than Sue. That said. I Do think they should have chosen a younger actor and maybe aged him up to Look older so that he can perform the role for the next ten years. 🤷🏾♂
As a Latino I'm genuinely TIRED of Pedro being cast in a buncha stuff. What the hell is the point of race-swapping any legendary character??? Guess I'll be ignoring even more Disney trash.
Assuming you are old enough or have at least seen The Mask of Zorro , are you ok with the fact that two Welsh actors: Sir Anthony Hopkins & Catherine Zeta-Jones played Mexican American parts in that movie …& no one called it woke 🖖🏾
@@rodneylindsey849 Personally love those films, I feel the same about Tropic Thunder, latest Lone Ranger, ETC. Of course it was silly how Caucasians were hired like that before... But at least they were phenomenal actors and there was no stupid political/social agenda as there clearly is now. Or for several years.
At the time, I doubt anyone considered Catherine Zeta-Jones a great actor, GORGEOUS Yes , but great 👋🏾 …My true point is they have had decades of Caucasian actors playing all different races , shouldn’t we allow for a little of it going the other way
If this Fantastic 4 does as well as Spider-Man, and they have their own No Way Home moment where the other Fantastic 4 teams arrive, would they also include the Roger Corman Fantastic 4? Will we see 16 people teaming up?
Hopefully this will be better than the last Fantastic 4 movie. Speaking of movies, are there any updates you can provide on your upcoming role. I saw on the facebook page for Days of Sodom filming started.
I agree with some of the others on here that have said. The 2005 Fantastic 4 may have had a lot of problems but the casting of the 4 was not one of them. Especially Evans and Chiklis who were literally perfect. The problem was a lack luster script that lacked punch in the last act and a major marvel villain that was dispatched like a dirty Kleenex. This new cast. listing leaves me very uninterested in seeing it. Do better Marvel!
Sue was ok. Not bad not good just ok. I hated the way Doom was done which sucks because he’s one of the greatest villains ever. The rest of the cast was great though.
I know it was done on a shoestring budget and the visuals aren't the best but the heart shown in the 1990s Fantastic Four movie is why its still the best movie adaption of Marvel's first family.
You are one of 4 who liked Andor. The pace was slow, but turning a toe-dipper into a full fledged rebel spy doesn't happen in one day. It was well written and excellent character development. Take that while you can get it, because I don't praise Disney or Lucasfilm often these days.
Andor was more sophisticated and brilliantly executed than anyone expected from Disney. From what I've noticed, people who can tolerate the slow pace, love Andor.
Venessa Kirby looks the part. I don’t know either of the The Human Torch or The Thing actors as for Pedro… YES HES OVEREXPOSED! Why not a Henry Cavil or a at the very least a Henry Cavil look alike?
@@matthewparker235 in a perfect world. There wouldn’t be any need for those stupid standards & D.I.E being about movements of minorities. Thus it would bring an end to the very blatant racism & sexism. Also I’m both but I’m actually a South Paw which is only between 10%-12% of the population. Which effectively means by their own logic. They’re still going against celebrating the minorities they say they want to raise up. But hey they’ve pretty much all but Blackmailed a former MMA Boxer who had gotten some acolytes. Which is one of the reasons why I call it D.I.E Division Invasion Exclusion.
Great video, lots of good points. Regarding Reed - Pedro's age is my biggest complaint as well. If this is going to be a one time movie, sure, but not if we expect to see him recording movies for the next half decade or possible more.
Don't judge a miscast before you watch the movie besides everyone used to hate Chris evens when he was announced as captain america and look where we are
I thought the intro was funny. There were also many parts which I agree with (especially Pedro Pascal) and thought you were cute at (3:10). Happy Friday Eve!
Honestly, Joey Diaz should’ve been the thing. I recommend you watch a video of his stand up and listen to his voice. He was practically born for it. Also, as a Latino myself, I love Pedro Pascal, but Reed Richards needs to be played by someone with a Johnny Carson-like face and charisma to his voice and character. That’s how I always saw him in the Jack Kirby illustrations.
I enjoyed Ebon in Andor as well as The Punisher. He does drama well. As for the rest I'm keeping an open mind until I see the movie. Remember, we don't know how these characters have been written. We haven't seen the audition footage of everyone who went up for the parts. After Affleck and Pattinson as Batman/Wayne and Heath and Joaquin as Jokers I'm not dismissing anyone...YET.
NO! NOOOOOOO! NO! FUK NO! HOW COULD THEY HAVE FOT THIS WRONG AGAIN!!!!! THEY GOT IT WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!! NO GODDAMMIT!!!!!! 👎👎👎👎👎Lady J this is all just click bait right? Right....right.......right🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I just can't get over that age gap of Pedro. Sad part is they had the casting tailor made with John krasinski and his wife as reed and sue. It just....... dang......
You can't get over the age gap of Pedro when there is an age gap between Reed Richards and Sue Strom in the comics? Yeah, it sounds like you don't know the source material that well. Or just hiding behind the age gap to hide from your real issue.
@@MichaelSmith-dk1lc Yeah, there is still an age difference between Reed and Strom. Reed is in his 40s and Sue is in her 30s. So, you can stop clutching at your pearls.
Tbh, I never understand the love for Krasinski as Reed. I can't ever picture him as the smartest man alive and Dr. Strange 2 just confirmed how out of place he is in that role.
I agree with the idea forwarded in the video that he worked well in the role, but the role gave him nothing to really work with. Multiverse of Madness was Not Very Good.
I think pretty much everyone who watched Andor and posted about it online liked it. That's a pretty popular opinion. I do also think that Pedro Pascal is starting to approach Chris Pratt levels of being the lead of everything
Glenn Howerton as Reed Richards? Only if you cast the rest of Sunny in Philadelphia!!! Mack as the Human Torch. Sweet Dee as Sue Storm. Charlie as The Thing! And Danny Devito as Galactus. You’re welcome internet.
I think they cast these roles based off of what THEY wanted to see and not what WE wanted to see, which is sad! You're making a product for your customers, NOT YOURSELVES! GREAT VIDEO BTW! REALLY like your style! P.S. My dream F4 Cast: John Krasinski - Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic Emily Blunt - Sue Storm/Invisible Woman Zac Efron/Dacre Montgomery - Johnny Storm/Human Torch Ebon Moss-Bachrach - Ben Grim/The Thing
I would like to see Pedro as.... Doom. They need strong villains also. Pedro would be great as Dr. Doom. you could form this franchise and revive the avengers with a strong actor like him in that role.
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