I'm reading the comments and it's apparent that consumers understand even less about dairy marketing than some dairy farmers themselves. In the US that was the story of my life; trying to get farmers together to help themselves. The results are huge government subsidies and a price discovery system that far too few people, especially farmers, don't understand. Good debate, though, and I can sit back, enjoy knowing I have no cows to milk in the morning. I commend Pete on giving a great go at trying to explain it all!
The guy in Ontario said “we could give it to hospitals, retired, or poor people”. With the price of food going up I agree there should be a place the over quota should be going somewhere.
Extra supply would put more dairy on sale and lower the price. Many many people dont consume more dairy simply because of the price. Of course you dont like that but you could manage your farm better. Ive seen you use that criticism on the other gentleman... but to argue, keeping supply constant is good for the consumer is disingenuous. Free market is always always better. Competition breeds success. You know that.
@@PetesFarmingVideos so that means big business isn't managing their contracts with their farmers.... sounds like bad business practices is the issue....
So....If he has to get rid of cattle to "manage his farm", is he getting to sell high and buy low for cattle?.....no Selling a cow low when over quota means having to buy high when under quota. You could do better explaining the sitch, without the rude "not cool" "you dont know how to manage your farm". It seems you havent understood the point that the excess could and should be at least donated. We have enough manure, it dosent make sense to dump it. Many things from the 70's dont fit in our current society. Things change, and this is archaic policy.
It’s the whole point of the system to manage the supply so we don’t have excess it’s a reliable good concept which 99% of all farmers across Canada would continue to support. As for selling cows that’s just one option. There are many other things a farm can do. Like swap in quota , dry off early or influence what your feeding the cows to lower butter fat content, so if he didn’t want to sell cows there’s other alternatives so he could wait till cow prices are high etc thanks for your comment
Also it’s really no point having quota if we “just give the excess away” what business does that? Even the chip company goes around collecting all the expired chips and discards them
@@PetesFarmingVideos The milk isnt expired, and for the record Hostess donates alot of close to date to the food bank. I believe it's also a "best before" date. I just think maybe it's time to revisit the process, considering so many people are in hardship, food banks are at an all time high for users. In the least, the government could fund a program to use the leftovers for the greater good MOO!
@@heatherspencer4058 ya that’s all fine to donate But that’s not how businesses stay afloat by giving products away it’s not stainable it cost the farmer huge amounts of dollars to produce milk
I am a retired US dairyman who always supported supply management. You touched on the principal reason it has not been adopted here: dairymen do not understand how their product is priced and marketed. Also, they are too independent to work together to improve their lot. My only complaint about the Canadian system is that the "quota" is an asset that can be sold(along with the cows).
bull, if 1 litre of milk is $7 dollars in Canada, and they're dumping milk......it's maniuplating the prices so people have to pay for a premium on something that's healthy and feeds kids.....ridiculous
I encourage you to reach out to a farmer in the USA 🇺🇸 and ask how they like their milk industry without quota from what my interactions with them was “they wish they had our system”
Interesting data....I don't like government subsidies either but I'm not convinced the quota system is the answer. What if you want to expand your business and you are actually better than your competitors? How does that work in Canada? Sounds like to me the solution is to do neither and let unprofitable people go out of business.
