a bit generous for some of the classes like priest, soul binder and AM. it's kinda pointless to farm low level maps because the farm potential on those maps are simply lower than comodo or SHG. it's also too much of a hassle to continually delete and build these characters just to farm low level maps and you only get 390CT. if you're really bent on farming low level maps then just use the stellar hunter or gunslinger. IMO unless you're bored of SH or GS, there's really no point on using the other jobs for farming. you're using the other classes for the memes of it while losing out on efficiency..
As a main doram, with a kinda different build, I don't have savage soul. I don't use the gunner and lcp anymore. I farm using pikipeck in royal hunting grounds. The cooldown of it is short plus the map buffs(black cat daily quest is useful too) so I can one hit monsters with or without element convert. Its the runes(the one that summons cats that use your skill to hit nearby enemies) that helps it farm more as it triggers faster so it can kill extra monsters. Compare to using lcp, or lcp with gunner, I find pikipeck more efficient. Just make a party with renewed or not renewed cats if you cant one shot monsters.
Thanks for the tip, I recall people had used picky peck in older maps too because of the refresh. It's great that you have good results on royal hunting grounds. I'll try it out one day.
My magic ninja can farm 14m raw zeny in hunting ground, using Ogare, Fire dragon and water frog and illusion, without even moving on my spot, nice vid, i might try others
Getting the 3rd line for that rune is terrible, yet use flying kick then flash kick. Its not that handy like amaterasu, but hell yeah, dmg from flash kick is massive
Thanks for the tier-list, I used to farm LB AC with mistress* but got lazy and switch to SH. Was planning to go tyrant but man... those requirements are to much.
I suggest dev make buff to rogue shadow so deal more damage and can move like ninja clone and can do skill. And begetter homun can move find enemies like LB robot.. so we have more choice to farm
Are you only interested in the hero classes? I think none of them are good for farming. I personally leveled them up with the level 160 or level 150 instances. Those give a ton of exp. I've also used my stellar hunter slaves to help leach me. Unfortunately none of the heroes do well in farming
Need more content of tier list for pve, woe, woc, pvp, etc. And make a video class breakdown and best equip slot every class sir. Really help guide. Thanks sir
@@indomobilegaming3636 sh : raw 15 - 15.4m, trash & equips & mats (sold to npc) 5.x - 6m Gs : i forget, but 18m in total (solo), gs is unfit to be duet with sh because of bad zeny rate per minute compared with SH duet
@@williamwen3477 do you have a nice rune for gs I think it has to be above 60% to match stellar hunter, but I also have seen that when leeching we get more kills per sec with many on the map, I use to team up with a gs friend with a rune above 80% and he had like 300 kills per minute
My SH is struggling with Attack (F2P). Outside of headgear craft, cards,.enchants, prayers/blessing, food - what else can I do to up my attack? I think my attack is 8800 unbuffed.
Use bow wind like tht.. Forgot wht name.. Use +10 claw in oracle mirror.. My id slave sh attk 10660 without buff + food / depo 6% + atk 3xx.. U can also wear headgear tht give stat atk %
Great video. Can you make a tier list for classes that are good for F2P players? Also, may I ask which is more cheaper, SP BUILD SH or SHARK DORAM PVP? Thank you.
Yeah, eventually I will cover that. Shark doram build is so much easier to gear than SP SH. I find SP cards are expensive, whereas HP % stuff is pretty cheap to gear up. My F2P doram does shark build and has a lot of HP. The only mini card I use is eclipse star card.
in case for nogu , u can use it for farm by using SG build with Higher - Cast delay and - Fixed cast time on Rune A , well it not to much but still better than using Cart tornado
I think I saw a video with that farming kobolds but it required good runes and cast cd and delay equipment it was nice, also magic nogu is a little better than physical nogu
If using wind knife on stellar you use melee dmg% so for melee mains can reuse gears, instead of changing to range gear when using bow. This way might be easier to ohk on frost valley
i use tyrant for farming cuz i get lucky with the rune (3 stars!) and in time machine the one eye headwer is avaiable at the moment so my gunslinger is the ultimate char for farming with low deposite HB, and deadly in PVP with pistol build
I wish you would have elaborated more on DF as I believe with a good FO Rune you can reduce the cast time to 0 as well as the chance to reset skill CD. Still horrible at farm though XD
If only the DF FO rune could make this S tier :D. I think a few classes on this list could be higher depending on what runes you got. It's still fun to attempt good farming with a bad farming class. I'm glad they gave us instances now to use up CT for bad farmers.
You can still enjoy the game at your own pace. As a F2P player, just strive to get better at PvE. Back when I started 3 years ago, I was F2P and I avoided serious PvP and just had fun progressing in PvE. Overtime, being able to carry and solo stuff made me happy.
f2p cant catchup what ? 1hit dungeon legend ? Im start play back after ancient equipment release fullset , and now i can solo lost isle brave.. Im 17% depo btw.. So f2p cant catchup what? F2p cant kill poring in prontera? Need 100% depo to kill mob ?
You should put DA on tier D. You don't know how it feels to grinding up your character from crusader to DA with only shield chain and shield boomerang. Even when you reach DA sometimes shield judex get buggy when you cast it so fast, and when it happens you have to wait until the cd is done.
@WobblyWallaby comparing to your tier d list at the beginning of rom before ancient equipment exist, We DA must have 2 set of equipment. With that kind of grinding it's really struggle for us. What make it worst is DA equipment was expensive at that time, because it's rare not many player play DA. That's why DA deserve to be on tier D
Honestly farming is obselete. Void instance with Doppel yields 2 Holy avenger on average (21m each). If youre lazy, Den of Calamity is decent too. No need to pay premium and offline battle.
Hi there. Great vids. I'm considering coming back to the game after a couple years. I finished Eclage story, have half the classes unlocked and while I'm not sure how to judge the % of my handbook, I'm 50%-100% on filling in all the bars on the second page showing progress and barely a dolphin in the whaling community. I'd want to return with non-hero classes and I'm not sure how to proceed. Was considering farming with SH and maining with DA but I'm not sure whats needed these days and I'd rather know before listing my interest for joining a guild. I also really like the concept of Begetter and Minstrel. I'm looking for the most useful class for a group that can more or less hold its own solo in ET and survive well in Oracle. Would rather be helpful and capable than all powerful. I mained as LB before but it got really stale for me. What would you recommend?
nogu stormgust can farm better than LBs but needs good A rune for that though. but still everyone should gear-up their SH because of the upcoming +25% range arrows which will make them the undisputed king of farming.
I'm farming on SGH with Soul Binder the most, just using the 1st job dmg skill, but you need to boost up your matk/ign mdef to it. But the aoe for that is not efficient.
LB 11kk чистыми за 540st... + крафт 2-3kk + лут... Онлайн но с премом.... Сам прем дает вроде как + 33% и т.п. +/- примерно так по зеням проверял с премом и без, разница существенная каким бы классом ты не играл прем значительно увеличивает получения зени
@@WobblyWallaby Hi Wobbly! Im at SEA server. Im farming at payon cave f1 near the entrance to 2nd flr targeting bongun, munak and eggyra. Raw zenny is around 10m but the loots excluding cards are around 18m to 19m depending on the exchange price and they are sellable.
@@WobblyWallaby The Soul Depravity with the rune to return it is way better. I've tested it. Ghost Wave hits only a few monsters, even on comodo buffed map
Gunslinger definitely S-rate and best for farming, the problem is to achieve the best result you need : - God Weapon Rifle for better range - Moonlight Star Card for better movement speed - at least 2-star rune with 1st line have 100% chance and 3rd line activated - All Gacha gears with movement speed and of course enough damage Hunter definitely have much more lower requirement and friendly for Free Player or New Player
you can match an SH's farm without the god rifle and MLF card. but I agree that GS is the top class in farming when both SH and GS have end-game gears.
I'd put thanatos 1 tier higher, that movespeed dash + donut is quite good. For new player, this list is mostly accurate imo. For endgame, it's not. I'd put soul binder and saint in D, for example. Unless you're a blue whale saint, of course, then it'd be higher. A bit. Luna/Solar are actually better in crowded maps full of sh and tyrant. I found this out when I was boosting an alt. It regularly gets 300+ kills per minute if the map is crowded. Tested in Frost Valley, centre tp location. If not crowded enough, expect only 100-150 kills per minute. Sometimes worse.
I did not quite reach 300+, but ~250 kills per minute when crowded is surprising. It's not consistent though. When there are not enough players on the map the farm is meh.
I think you could have separated the classes that requite offline from the ones who can farm without offline because it's hard for f2p who don't buy premiums to have sh or other classes. I find a good way for them is genes at gh culvert
I kinda disagree with taekwon simply because I dont use AA when farming. I have a strange build but I find it fun flying around royal hunting grounds spamming flying kick + run. With runes, the run buff stays for some time after casting almost 3-4 flying kicks before rebuff. This and my other comment about doram is what I use lately for farming.
my build is also kinda funny i was just trying to get my taekwon to T4,tried calamity realm, moon night bat, flash kick, 1 hit sometimes 6 targets, all equip move speed. i was kinda surprised at the result, its not S or A farmer but definitely not D
From my past "budget" tyrant build where I only targetted one monster, I basically got a bunch of MVP and mini cards to be able to one shot that area. It's an unfortunate zeny wall. That included gloom, dragonfly star, bigfoot lobster, and moonlight tendrilion star. The gear itself is about the same, just expensive cards.
