Fastest NVME 32TB RAID For Mac Pro 2019 feat. Sonnet M.2 4x4 PCIe

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Is it worth to upgrade the Mac Pro 2019 in time of Apple silicon? I'm sure YES! How the fastest 32TB NVMe Raid Array capable of 28 GB/s performs in Mac Pro 2019? This 32TB NVME Storage is super easy to set up and is still affordable. Combine four addlink S95 Gen 4 NVMe disks with Sonnet 4x4 PCIe Silent card. Works also in MacPro5,1. Whether you are a Mac, Windows or Linux user this state-of-the-art storage solution is designed to take your creative workflow to the next level. With incredibly fast read and write speeds you will never have to waste time waiting for the files to transfer or render again. Welcome to the future of data storage for audio, video, 3D professionals and gamers.
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@wmgreenleaf5671 Год назад

Great video, usual professionalism in subject and delivery. Thank you , keep up the great work.

@morgonaut Год назад

@Wm Greenleaf - wow, again another amazing warm hearted comment 💜 Thank you. Please share my videos, that would help the most

@KarelGuzman-Lumetrics Год назад

Morgonaut always great videos, and straight to the point. What expandability options would you expect to see on a new Mac Pro?

@morgonaut Год назад

@Karel Guzman - thank you Karel, I'm glad you value my work and style. I'm really scared to predict what will the Apple silicon Mac pro be like, because as I said in this video Apple can negatively surprise us as did already in the past. I'd like to see lot of PCIe slots and lot of memory. Also would be great if Apple would release some M2/M3 accelerator cards for Mac Pro 2019

@StrongFrontTV Год назад

I use 2 of these cards together and it is awesome. Thank you.

@morgonaut Год назад

@StrongFrontTV - I'm glad you like my tips 😇

@chaosercan 2 месяца назад

Thanks for the excellent video! Sorry if missed if you already explained or sorry if this is a stupid question. Can I use the Sonnet or any generic ASM2824-chiped device with PCIe 4.0 m2 SSD?? or I must plug only PCIe 3.0 m2 memory cards?

@hackexpert0003 7 месяцев назад

iMac 27 2020 (with 5700 XT) and this Mac Pro 2019 (24 core) are the best Intel Macs ever made since 2006 (after transition from PowerPC Architecture). Also they are able to run Windows natively.

@boblimaorchestra Месяц назад

Do not use this card on a mac pro 2019 with WD Black SN850 X SSDs! They are not fully compatible with Mac OS and will eject themselves from the desktop. Sonnettech released a pdf where one can see which SSDs are fully compatible with the Sonnet 4x4 Silent Card

@morgonaut Месяц назад

@boblimaorchestra - I said clearly what disks I recommend so if people would just follow my advices they would never have problems

@007Chargeback 6 месяцев назад

Is it possible to boot from the SSD-Raid) with an Mac Pro 7.1 (2019)?

@RDUBTutorial 3 месяца назад

cant find your video on this card in an expansion chassis working with mac studio.

@JohnnyMcPro 6 месяцев назад

Do you convert C-LOG 4:2:2 h.265 footage to ProRes first? When I had a 2019 Mac Pro, it could not edit that footage at all since it did not have the encoders, while my M2 and M3-based systems can endcode/decode like it's nothing. Anyway, would love to understand your workflow!

@morgonaut 6 месяцев назад

@JohnnyMcPro - I shoot 8K CRAW so no 4:2:2 HEVC. If you want to know secrets of my workflow then you can book a Zoom video meeting with me on my website

@Gabby16bit Год назад

So if i understand correctly this setup also work on a Mac Pro 2023 m2?

@morgonaut Год назад

you understand it wrong, such setup you mentioned was not yet tested, not many people on this planet has it. In my videos I always provide exact clear informations based on my personal testing and verification

@Gabby16bit Год назад

@@morgonaut I see, thanks! Do you think you will buy one in the future?

@morgonaut Год назад

I bought the Mac Studio M2 Ultra which I use as main and still have my 2019 Mac Pro. I can't afford to waste money on 2023 Mac Pro - I'm not a millionaire like you 😇

@Gabby16bit Год назад

@@morgonaut still not a millionaire :( But saving money for very good PC's (i like macs for editing). And i think i will go with this for capture cards and SSD expansion all in one, still not sure tho if is the best idea, i'm sure i can go cheaper, but i like this solution since is more compact and have a Pc that can work well for years!

@morgonaut Год назад

I have no idea what you expect from it but look - already now I have great setup for multicam 8K/60/HDR production, I use lot of PCIe cards connected to Apple silicon... If you want my deeper help/expertise you can book a video meeting with me on link in video description

@tudoriustin22 Год назад

Damn I love this channel so much. I'm considering this upgrade for my 2019 Mac Pro too

@morgonaut Год назад

@Justin Nam Media - thanks for your nice comment Justin. You can help my channel by sharing my videos

@clivesaunders5576 6 дней назад

is that sonnet bootable

@dodfaefife Год назад

Just found this video. Very informative. What enclosure could I put the Sonnet m.2 4x4 PCI Express card into? I have a MacStudio and would like to build an external raid. Thanks

@morgonaut Год назад

@dodfaefife - for external RAID there are better solutions than the one you think of. But if you need "adapter" then I use the Sonnet Echo II and IIIe = geni.us/62yWsTc and geni.us/dzruJPo

@jip2877 10 месяцев назад

Why the 256 chunk size, I have the same card and I set it up with 64 chunk size. I thought 256 is only if you use very large files (size per file). Thanks!

@morgonaut 10 месяцев назад

@jip2877 - I explained that several times in my videos :(

@王玉坤-y9s 5 месяцев назад

Hello, may I ask how you managed to turn on the computer without installing the casing? I tried using a screwdriver, but there was no response

@morgonaut 5 месяцев назад

@user-rk4gu9og7x - I planned to produce video about it but didn't find time and money to waste to do that. When people don't support me then I can't shoot such videos - easy like that. You need magnet

@cinematicamusic2578 7 месяцев назад

Great content as always!.How does the Sonnet compares with the OWC Nvme Card?, thanks!

@morgonaut 7 месяцев назад

@cinematicamusic2578 - PCIe x16 on Sonnet vs only x8 on IWC

@benshirleymusic Год назад

I just purchased the Sonnet card last night but acquired different NVMe SSDs - I have a 2019 Mac Pro as well. Your video explained everything I need to do to set it all up properly. I don't even know how I came upon your channel right now. Great work! Looking forward to going through all you videos. Thanks!

@morgonaut Год назад

@benshirleymusic - yes, all my videos contains everything people need, so it's great you are one of million who realized I didn't produce only single video they watch now but I made tons of them on both my youtube channels. Thanks for your comment

@moetarded7757 11 месяцев назад

Now that we have 24 core M processor, when do we put 1.5 gbs ram? Did I miss it?

@morgonaut 11 месяцев назад

@moetarded7757 - your "1.5 gbs ram" is little bit off :) Hard to guess what you mean by that

@jirikominek7893 10 месяцев назад

Hi, how did you run Mac Pro 7.1 without the case cover? Thank you.

@morgonaut 10 месяцев назад

@jirikominek7893 - I planned a video to explain how to achieve that but didn't have time to produce it :(

@lavinchi6709 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!!!!Teresa***You make beautiful video!!!

@morgonaut 10 месяцев назад

@lavinchi6709 - thank you, but I made tons of great videos already = watch also the other ones :)

@cizcutproduction Год назад

good video can i used 1 8tb s95 M.2 nvme that show in this video externally through thunderbolt for m1 max 16'' ??

@morgonaut Год назад

sure you can :) no problem with that

@cizcutproduction Год назад

@@morgonaut are you going to be doing a video on portable external nvme housing that you recommend thank you for your response your definitely doing the best videos on the subject 💯

@morgonaut Год назад

yes I prepare several videos about such topic so stay tuned, subscribe and enable notifications so you won't miss it

@positiverootsproductions Год назад

I love your tutorial, I eagerly await for the next tech video...thank you 🙏🏽

@morgonaut Год назад

@Positive Roots Productions - Another "positive" comment from Positive Roots Productions 😇 Please share my videos, that would help me to produce more videos like this

@Kartiksekhar 9 месяцев назад

I've been watching some of your videos and I have to say- YOU'RE CONTENT IS AWESOME!!!! Incredible stuff and presented in such a beautifully clear and concise way! I'm learning so much from you! Love it! Keep up the great work! 🙏

@morgonaut 9 месяцев назад

@Kartiksekhar - Wow, what a beautiful comment, thank you for that! I'm glad my videos helped you. Best thanks would be if you share my videos on forums/socials so it can help to more people and that will in return help to me to produce for you more quality content and still for free.

@Kartiksekhar 9 месяцев назад

@@morgonaut absolutely! I will be happy to share with anyone who’s also having issues with their computer. Thank you so much!

@morgonaut 9 месяцев назад

@Kartiksekhar - I'm happy to help to kind and grateful people

@marco.castellani Год назад

Thanks Theresa, we always receive amazing solutions and ideas from you. You are essential 😊

@morgonaut Год назад

@Marco Castellani - Hi Marco, as always thanks for your kind comment! 💜

@ripgirl9000 Год назад

Amazing video thank you so much, so informative

@morgonaut Год назад

@Kendall - thank you Kendall for your nice comment, I'm glad you liked it. Share my videos 😇

@fuattuncer5196 8 месяцев назад

Hello Teresa, I first plugged the PCI card into exactly the same place as you did. The Macpro 2019 did not recognize the card. Then I moved it up one place and that worked. My Mac reported that this slot was not optimal. I simply ignored that. My question: Can I try another slot without losing the data? Info: 4x 1 TB Samsung 990 Pro with Raid 0 + Sonnet M2. 4x4 Thanks .

@morgonaut 8 месяцев назад

@fuattuncer5196 - moving 4x4 to different sot will not touch any of your data so you can do it. Slot placement have impact on performance

@duruprintdruckerei2239 8 месяцев назад

Thank you very much. The PCI card is currently in a x8 slot. Previously I had plugged it into an x16 slot, but it was not recognized. Write and read speed is currently around 5,000. Will it be a bit faster if I change the slot?

@morgonaut 8 месяцев назад

@duruprintdruckerei2239 - of course if you connect four NVMes only by 8 lanes it will be slower than if you connect it via 16 lanes 😇

@LeeBlaske 9 месяцев назад

This is a very informative video. I'm curious if you've had a chance, yet, to try out the new Sonnet 8x4 NVMe card. I recently got one, along with a new 2023 Mac Pro, and tried to get it working with 8 Crucial P3+ 4Tb NVMe cards (which are on the approved list). No dice. The computer doesn't indicate that the card is there. So far, Sonnet tech support has not come up with an answer for me, so I'm afraid I'll just be sending it back for a refund. My question, though, is what to replace it with. The MP 2023 has Gen 4 PCIe slots. I'd like to get a Gen 4 NVMe card, to take full advantage of my Gen 4 NVMe cards, and Gen 4 PCIe computer. The only other option I can see is the OWC 8M2 (which unfortunately has a fan, and I don't need the extra noise in my recording studio). If the Sonnet 8x4 card I have is just defective, I'm still a little worried about getting a replacement, because Sonnet says the card is not compatible with the initial release of Sonoma. I need this computer to just work and not have problems with operating systems. So, what would you do? Get two Sonnet 4x4 cards, or maybe two OWC 4M2 cards and take the performance hit of the Gen 3 limit, or go with the OWC 8M2, and hope the fan isn't too noisy? I'd love to see you do a review of the new Sonnet 8x4 card. Maybe you could get it working.

@morgonaut 9 месяцев назад

@LeeBlaske - Lee I didn't test that card, but I could get in contact with Sonnet again and test it. You can book a Zoom video call with me and I can have a look at your problem personally and hopefully/probably solve your issue

@LeeBlaske 9 месяцев назад

@@morgonaut Thanks. I decided not to risk it, and I'm sending the card back/ If I can't get the next card operating, I may book a session.

@morgonaut 9 месяцев назад

@LeeBlaske - OK, as you wish :)

@shaisaadia 11 месяцев назад

love your videos very much!! But giving you a challenge, Mac Pro 2019 is upgraded to Apple Silicon 😜😜😜

@morgonaut 11 месяцев назад

@shaisaadia - Intel Mac Pro is much better option for me at this moment

@shaisaadia 11 месяцев назад

For me to!! And thanks to you, I upgraded the RAM of the computer's and the hard disk! And it's still a challenge whether it can even happen... @@morgonaut

@morgonaut 11 месяцев назад

@shaisaadia - I'm glad my videos helped you.

@omaralhussaini925 Год назад

Noble Morgonaut, I'm about to build my own computer, one thing I need to complete the project, a reliable flawless external BD/DVD drive, through your profession and experience, I would appreciate and value your recommendation, thank you Mam.

@alonzosmith6189 Год назад

I still use a Mac mini 2015 (given to me) as a media pc to stream all tv services. The latest Apple products are expensive. My wife purchased iPhone 14 for me, cost more then my 1st car. I enjoy your videos.

@morgonaut Год назад

I don't think your statement "latest Apple products are expensive". Look for example at the value of M2 Mac Mini, $699 for this performance?? It's cheap!

@Made0nEarth Год назад

@@morgonaut yes it is cheat that's why i stop Hackintosh , i was making Hackintosh since 2008! i quit Hackintosh since the M1 processors they are many times cheaper and faster than to build one Hackintosh myself.

@morgonaut Год назад

@MadeOnEarth - you didn't get the point. There are still use cases where hackintosh is good idea. But this is not hackintosh YT channel

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

everybody's first car is a piece of junk, you're just gonna wreck it anyway.

@NikCan66 Год назад

Always excellent and informative

@morgonaut Год назад

@NIkCan - thanks for your kind comment NIkCan 💜

@Shin-ei_Official Год назад

That's awesome!!!! Great video as always!!

@morgonaut Год назад

@Shin-ei Effects Pedals - thanks Bob "as always" 😇💜

@AlexTyson_ 8 месяцев назад

Once you configure the PCIe card as you did, can you hot swap the card into another computer equipped with compatible PCIe slot, and the raid will automatically show up as configured on the original computer?

@morgonaut 8 месяцев назад

@AlexTyson_ - sure you can if in the 2nd computer there id also recent macOS

@morgonaut 8 месяцев назад

@AlexTyson_ - it doesn't have to be equipped with PCIe slot, it can be connected via Thunderbolt

@AlexTyson_ 8 месяцев назад

Thank you 👍 looks like those Addlink SSDs are getting pricier. Hopefully they come down soon. I’m going to try to max out the sonnet silent PCIe as you configured it.

@morgonaut 8 месяцев назад

@AlexTyson_ - you can obviously use any disks you want

@benshirleymusic Год назад

@morgonaut Well, I just installed the Silent card with 8TB of storage for use a sample drive. Your test specs were spot on. I followed the speed tests jut like you did in the video and installed watching this video. Amorphous final test reads: 14039.86 READ and 12451.27 WRITE Picking up another card and 4 more drives for another installation on my 2019 Mc Pro. Thank you for this great video. Just awesome all the way around. Oh - the APFS worked well for me.

@morgonaut Год назад

@benshirleymusic - I'm glad following my advices made you happier 😇

@morgonaut Год назад

@benshirleymusic - Best thanks would be if you share my videos on forums/socials so it can help to more people and that will in return help to me to produce for you more quality content and still for free. And/or if you are really grateful for my help you can click under my video on the THANKS button, that will again help me keep producing for you useful content for free

@sriramsundar8388 Год назад

The 2023 Mac Pro is pathetic, doesn't come anywhere close to the greatness of the Intel Mac Pro.

@morgonaut Год назад

can't agree with you, it's the same principle as the 2019 one just with better guts 😇 And for the performance it offers is many times cheaper than the 2019 one!

@sriramsundar8388 Год назад

@@morgonaut it's not about the performance, it's about the upgradability and expansion(which is there in the new Mac Pro, but *apparently* no support for GPUs), anyways good for you if you like it.

@morgonaut Год назад

can't imagine why you would need additional GPUs alongside with M2 Ultra ones which can address almost 200GB of video memory 😇 There is not a single consumer GPU which would be able to do that!

@mustaphaishola8581 Год назад

Beautiful idea! Will this work on a designare x299 i9 hackintosh?

@morgonaut Год назад

It should, you can put this card into any computer with PCIe slot

@mustaphaishola8581 Год назад

@@morgonaut have you tried it on your ProxMox build?

@morgonaut Год назад

yes sure it works

@aldomontalvo3204 Год назад

You have done again, Theresa!

@morgonaut Год назад

I hope you liked my video because what you typed makes no sense 😇

@aldomontalvo3204 Год назад

@@morgonaut the autocorrector...

@NineVoltDigitalCinema Год назад

Thanks for the in-depth review! With the new M2 Ultra Mac Pro having PCIe gen. 4, I assume we would see the full speed?

@morgonaut Год назад

yes because instead of running that card on PCIe Gen. 3 it would run at PCIe Gen. 4 😇

@Cinefilo_Celuloide Год назад

2:42 I loved it you didn't edit it, that's being professional to place what goes well and what goes wrong is great

@morgonaut Год назад

@Cinefilo_Celuloide - hihi :) yeah in many of my videos I left some bloopers

@carlosangella5756 Год назад

And what happens if I install 2 SSD with an PCIe Adapter each SSD to a PCIe socket chaco SSD? and then I mount the 2 SSD in Raid 0 ? Can be work at double Speed? I mean, if I have 1 SSD Gen4 it will give me a maximum speed of 3.150 Mgb/s each. so if O mount 2 SSD gen 4 in Raid 0, it will give me the double speed?

@morgonaut Год назад

you will not get exact double because there is more things involved, but you will see significant boost in sequential reads etc.

@carlosangella5756 Год назад

@@morgonaut Good to know that!! thanks for your answer.

@bonaventura_AKA_ben Год назад

Could you please explain or point me to the right place to learn about chunk size versus performance? I understand the largest chunk size is to effectively move large files, but I noticed during my recent network transfer of thousands of tiny files that it took hours! Is there a 'rule of thumb' for chunk size to the size of files to be moved? I'm planning on using a m2 mac mini as a RAID/NAS together with an OWC nvme 4 slot enclosure.

@morgonaut Год назад

@bonaventura_AKA_ben - for NAS the configuration would be different to even more optimize it for your use case but that's out of scope of a single YT comment - you can book video meeting with me on link in video description and I can help you with that personally

@Fyr042 Год назад

Without parity like in RAID0 if your data/file to write is smaller than the chuck size only a part of the chunk is used. The rest is left unallocated and usable for other files. If data is bigger it's will be split in chunk sized parts and use as many as needed. The last partial chuck is not usable for other files. In raid0 the first chunk is on disk1, the second on disk2... this why chunks not filled are not usable for other files. On array with parity (= security, you all know that raid0 is unsecure ...) like in raid5 , if file is smaller than a chuck this data is written on one disk, and parity takes a partial chuck on an other disk. For data bigger than a chuck it's the same as raid0, with your file on multiple disks, except that for all chuck you have a parity block on an other disk. In raid0 you don't loose space (only your data in case of catastrophic events) in raid5 with 4 disks like in the video you loose 20% of space with 256K and up to 33% with 128K chunk (twice the number of chunk versus 256K so twice more parity block) In raid0 you dont care about the chuck ONLY to match "electronic and buffer" capacity transfer.

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

I have the same Mac and my mouse quit as soon as I installed Ventura. I notice you are also using a wired mouse. LOL.

@morgonaut Год назад

sure, because the Apple Magic Mouse is piece of crap 😇

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

@@morgonaut Why didn't you like it?

@morgonaut Год назад

because as I said it's piece of crap. What you expect from mouse? Precise and easy movements! And Magic Mouse is all but that 😂

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

just got mine from your amazon links and this new drive has read of 13965 and write of 13175! Fun little process. I noticed the ssds didn't lie flat and curved a bit. did I do something wrong?

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

and amorphousdiskmark has 3488/3405 for my system disk. what a difference!

@morgonaut Год назад

you need to read manual :) you need correct thickness of the thermal pads for your specific disks

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

@@morgonaut are these double sided? they seem to be to me, but I don' know about them much.

@morgonaut Год назад

watch my previous video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FBgceprCAiY.html where I showed detailed shots of it

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

@@morgonaut that was a different board. but I do have a layer of pad on each side but in the middle not fully touching.

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

what caused it to go from 5.9 to 11? what did your last speed checker do?

@morgonaut Год назад

each workflow/load/dataset is different

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

@@morgonaut well I ordered a 2tb version from amazon on your links so I hope you get a tip! will be here Wednesday, I hope it works! Are these speeds actually faster then the MAC's own internal drive?

@morgonaut Год назад

thumb up for using my link 🤙 And right in this video I say how may times this array is faster than any Apple disk(s)

@EnergeticWaves Год назад

I know you did, but all my life the fastest drive is the one inside. of course all my others were usb and this is PCI so we shall see. can you put a link in the description about where the drive speed programs are?

@morgonaut Год назад

just google the names of the apps I used

@maxcarella Год назад

I’ve bought same exact card on MP 7,1 with 4 Samsung 980. But results are so different than yours… I’ve tried to change Sonnet card and upgrade Disk firmware but always same result into black magic test …

@morgonaut Год назад

@Max Carella - I own several of these Sonnet card and I tested in it many different SSD models and results were on par with my measurements in this video. What's the difference on your side? I would never buy Samsung 980 for it. If you want good or ultimate performance then you should buy good/ultimate disks 😇

@maxcarella Год назад

@@morgonaut with black magic test, 5272 on write and 1069 on read, with ATTO results seems to be near to yours. I’ve tried also to test single disk and numbers are all the same on every disk. If I make a raid with 2 disk at a time, black magic give me about 5k in read and write. I’ve tried to contact sonnet support without any helpful response. They told me to look at the best benchmark. 😮

@morgonaut Год назад

I can't judge what you do wrong when I was not there when you configured it, but for sure something is wrong on your side and I don't think it would be a problem of the Sonnet card. In 99.99% of cases it's user error 😇 You can book a video/remote meeting with me and I can have a look at it

@maxcarella Год назад

@@morgonaut ok, Can I book video/remote on your site?

@morgonaut Год назад

@Max Carella - that's what's written in all my video descriptions and what I say in almost each video

@TomRathborne Год назад

I did the super cheap version of this with a €50 ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 Card V2 and 4x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB. At the time, was waaay cheaper and faster than a single 4TB NVMe. Nice to see the no-holds-barred version!

@morgonaut Год назад

In this video I explained why it's not possible to use cheap cards like you mentioned in Mac Pro 2019

@TomRathborne Год назад

@@morgonaut it works fine in my refurbished Thinkstation P500 ☺

@morgonaut Год назад

OMG! 😡 BUT IT WOULD NOT WORK AT ALL IN MAC PRO 2019!!! Do you get the point finally? This video title and whole video is about MAC PRO 2019

@TomRathborne Год назад

@@morgonaut Hopefully folks with that computer will actually watch the video. Or at least read your comment.

@morgonaut Год назад

YOU are the exception, not the others. This video is about Mac Pro 2019 and you comment about Thinkstation P500!