If only I'd found this sooner! I'm a novice videographer who knows very little about color grading. I've spent over a year messing around with the color wheels, curves, etc, without getting results close to this. Thank you so much!! Subscribed!
You are a great teacher. I have watched a ton of these color correction vids and yours is the most clear. You explain the why behind each setting. Thank you!
I am so glad I found your channel. I just started shooting video on my A7IV and spent hours trying figure out SLOG3, exposure and editing in Davinci…. You gave me the more usable, practical, and applicable information in 5 minutes than the 10+ hours of watching overly complicated , conflicting information that others post. Thank you so much.
yes, many videos that said just shoot in S-Cinetone to save yourself a color grading mess for beginner. But thanks to your video it doesn't seems S-Log3 color grading is too complicated for beginner who just want to color grade the non commercial video footage. Those color grading items are largely similar to those RAW development adjustment in Lightroom and not a rocket science. Good job.
Hey, I love your content mate, always so inspiring! I just wanted to say that there is another advantage vs using a lut. The CST keeps the image in a float state, so if anything gets cliped during the conversion you can recover the details not only before, but also after the CST. That is not the case with a LUT
I don't know why but when I apply input color space my shots become over saturated and red. It is my first time shooting and editing in log 😢 I think I am doing it correctly. I even tried different color space and gamma to see if I was mistaken, any advice?
Hi Danny, thanks for video! I was just using this video to train myself on davinci resolve. I do computer graphics and don't even have a camera. But the color space and gamma is really important to understand. Thanks again!
try worked with managed color. Your footage starts out great. The look as exposed needs very little work. The color space you used to shoot doesn't come through in the metadata, so I guessed it was S-Gamut3.Cine/S-Log3. So putting I put that in as the clip's input color space. The project is DaVinci YRGB Color Managed custom, with input color space set to Rec. 709 Gamma 2.4, timeline color space is DaVinci WG/intermediate and luminance at SDR 100 nits. The output colorspace is the same Rec. 709 gamma 2.4 but will be tagged 709-A. Starting out the footage looks great.
Yeah, Sony's metadata doesn't come through in Davinci, got to input it manually or have a powergrade ready to drag and drop 🙂 appreciate the compliments!
@@DannyGan It's a big problem for me: shooters who don't send camera (or sound) notes, letting me know what they did. I often have to wrestle with them just to find out what cameras they used. And then never tell me what talent is on which audio track.
I love your tutorial, thank you! Instant follow :) There a a couple of things I still don't understand. First of all I have an A7C II, shoot in 10 bit S-Log3 and when I apply your CST recipe, the footage doesn't exactly look like the one I see when I review it directly on the camera (with gamma display assist of course). It's darker. Unless I turn the "adaptation" slider to something like 1, then it gets closer. I thought it would be like exact science between the two, but maybe the gamma display assist isn't so accurate? Second question might be silly: I shoot in SLOG3 with this settings: Exposure/Colour > Colour/Tone > Picture Profile and then set the Gamma to S-Log3 and Color to S-Gamut3.Cine. But on another menu, you can find this: Shooting > Image Quality > Log Shooting Setting ; then, select On (Flexible ISO) and Color Gamut set to S-Gamut3.Cine. What's the difference? Thank you for your help!
I suggest you to do adjustments after the CST node, and also to turn off tonemapping to avoid clipping footage, adjusting before the CST is no problem if youre working with a single camera with a determined gamma and colorspace, however if you start mixing cameras, even on the same scene, the adjustments wouldnt translate accurately between cameras because Resolve wouldnt know the baseline adjustments for each gamma and colorspace. Keep up the good work!
Yes, this is a problem. But you can add the same camera clip to a group. Then translate the color space to a higher space(for example davinci wide gamut) at group pre-clip by different groups. You can do some adjust at clip. Last translate the color space from higher space to the out space at group post-clip or timeline. Learned from Darren Mostyn.
just watched your clip- instant follow. i am pretty impressed with how comprehensible this channel is. care to produce a video about skin tones specifically (maybe even with a side jab on sony cams cuz i feel they lack a bit of color rendition compared to cams like an alexa or a blackmagic) ?
I find Sony skintones quite good except for a slight tint of magenta, you can counter that by sliding in some green. But feel free to send me any footage you want me to have a go at 🫡
Great video Danny, thanks! Could you please share your color management settings for your RU-vid workflow? Color Science, Timeline Color Space and Output Color Space
Hi Danny. Thanks for this video very, very instructive. I have one request though. I recently got a Sony Burano and I need to get around a workflow on how to color grade the XOCN LT. Can you make video like the one you did above, but this time for XOCN LT workflow? Thanks in advance.
Man you are just amazing. I was scratching my head what is output gamma all these months. So my question is if i want to apply for LUT, do i need to follow same process
0:04 10:05 how can we get those sliders in DaVinci? . In premiere pro, we can easily keyframe adjustment layer. But in davinci whole video is moving when I keyframe adjustment layer.
Why not just use color managed workflow and set the input color space to s-log3? Isn't that the same thing but without having to explicitly create a cst node?
This such fantastic demonstration of the Sony camera in the SLOG3 Picture Profile, Danny. The dynamic range is unreal. I am just curious, but why are you converting the SLOG3 to REC.709 on the timeline versus using a Video Monitor LUT? For example, I shoot in HLG3 and need to upload the video in HDR onto RU-vid, therefore the color space needs to stay at Rec.2020. I use a LUT to see my changes better on my SDR monitor. I am struggling to get the colors right in my recent videos. Here are my settings: Input Color Space: Rec.2020 ; Rec.2100 HLG Timeline Color Space: Rec.2020 ; ST2084 1000 nit Output Color Space: Rec.2020 ; ST2084 10000 nit I would really appreciate the help. I think this video demonstrates the colors so well!
First of all, appreciate the compliments 🙏🏻 To be totally honest with you, I have no clue about the HDR workflow. But one thing I know is that you shouldn't be grading for HDR if your monitor doesn't have the nits to support it. For the question of why slog3 to rec709, instead of video minitor lut, I think that's 2 totally different tools meant for different uses. Just from what I understand, the cst conversion if the switch the actual colour space of the video clip, nothing to do with the monitor itself. The monitor should be calibrated and left alone. Outputting in HDR is not something 'normal' so there's a bit more work you have to put in to have the proper equipment and all
@@VeeTravels HDR for youtube is not worth it for most people. Very few people has proper HDR displays that has local dimming to view true HDR content(most HDR monitors are gimmick) For the majority of non HDR viewers, the youtube HDR to SDR conversion is not great, and your video will look worse than a high quality SDR video.
Very good tutorial!!! thanks, man I just discovered your channel, and I'm hooked. Question, for white balance, do you recommend using the temperature tool or balancing the highlight and shadows using the waveform in RGB?? What's the best way to white balance in DR18 :)
Thanks man! A principle I follow is use the most convenient tool for the job. I usually just use the temperature tool. But it is the same as adjusting the Gain wheel, you can try that out. If the Gain wheel gets you to your destination quicker, then that's better. You can also try HDR temp slider, rgb curves, custom DCTL but what I find best for me is still the simple temperature and tint tool.
Dude this is great content, thank you for sharing! One question (I'm only at 4:26 so ignore if you answer later): Why choose Rec.709? Are there other output display color spaces? Just curious! Thank you, subscribed, this is super helpful.
Rec.709 is kind of the most widely used display color space for any screen. You can choose to deliver in other color spaces, like sRGB (web), DCI-P3 (cinema) but then the consumer must view in that particular color space also. Since most devices display in Rec.709, hence it's the go-to delivery format. Hope this helps! Thanks for subscribing 🫡
@@DannyGan My dude! Really appreciate the response. Thanks for sharing your knowledge - already knocking out some really cool clips with the A7IV I just picked up thanks to your tutorials. Content like this really helps other creatives just get rolling, so thank you truly!
Hi, I get that using “input lut” make you lose information (in project settings / colour management) But why if you’re using “output LUT” it should be the same as your example ? If not there is something I still didn’t understand. Your example of using colour correction before / after “colour space transform” seems biaised to me because you’re applying the same correction to different colour space so obviously you have differences. What do you think ? I’m new to this so might be wrong but I’d like to understand fully. Thanks for your work ❤
Hi Nicolas, I'm don't think I understood your first question. But as to the example before/after CST, yes it's meant to show a difference because I want to show that you have more advantage working in the log color space rather than in rec.709.
Which node should the CST be in? Should it be the first node, or the node after primaries/look? If the latter, should you put it in 3, then further adjust the primaries and secondaries?
It's all up to preference, test out which works best for you. I like to work upstream the cst for reasons mentioned in the video. but there are people who will fight me on that. I'm too lazy to take on the fights, so do whatever works for you best. People will only see the outcome, nobody can tell if your cst is upstream or downstream. Cheers!
Hey thanks for the Video! im pretty new, and im trying to save a few good nodetrees as Powergrades with custom Titles, all named etc for a good structure and fast workflow. Do you als work with custom Powergrades?
Yup. SIMPLE NODE TREE for Any User Level | Visionary Powergrade Template | DaVinci Resolve 18 Tutorial ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sNliaFMPTBI.html
can also share your slog3 camera settings? like detail, saturation, depth and etc. I'm still learning and maybe your setup is what I'm looking for? thanks a lot
Thanks! I have a question about matching Slog3 footage from Sony a6400 and a RGB footage from Canon 600D, if you could give your opinion. So, for the Slog3, I am adding a Color Space Transform node at the end of the graph and do my grading, which looks good. I am setting inputs to Slog3, output to Rec.709 with Gamma 2.4., as a learned in several videos. Cool, got that out of the way. Now, the Canon 600D footage is not a log format, and has the colours baked in, but I need to match it to Sony. I have learned that I can use CST node at the beginning of the graph, now with inputs of RGB and outputs of Slog3 (So, I want to output that RGB footage to look like the Slog3 one), which does indeed make it look very much like LOG. Now, if my logic is right, I could basically add one more node to the end of the 600D graph which would now have the inputs of Slog3 and output of Rec.709, same as for Sony, and I could do my grading in between. Does this make sense? Would this be a good starting point?
So the quick answer is no, its not the same. The colour space transform is meant for converting certain colour spaces only, if you put it into slog3 at the start, and convert back at the edn, it only means that you're WORKING in slog3 color space. It does not magically switch your footage to slog3. Your canon 600D footage is presumably already in rec709, hence you just need to match from there onwards. You don't have to do the cst part. Hope this was clear!
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yes, that was one of the addition I made in my more recent videos. But it's still the same. Timeline: Davinci Wide Gamut Output: Rec.709-A (Mac) / Rec.709 Gamma 2.4 (Windows)
New serial node (ALT/OPT + S) Label node (SHIFT + CMD/CTRL + L) The node label shortcut is custom for myself, you can set it in the Keyboard Shortcuts menu on the top left.
Just found your channel and this video in particular. You earned yourself a new follower. I tried to download your footage from the link associated with it, but it's not letting me. Says I don't have permission to do so.
@@DannyGan Yeah, it was a browser issue on my end which was causing the problem. So I was able to download both the Sony A7III and A7SIII with no problems. But when I started downloading the Sony FX3 folder, I had to cancel the download due to how huge the file is. Not enough storage space for me to get that one. So, I'm guessing the footage for this particular video (holding the camera clip that is) is buried in this zipfile? I'm guessing the same for the Wong Kar clip as well? If yes, any chance you can put those two clips in a new folder for download? Anyway, I at least got the Shampoo clip to work with.
No dumb questions here mate~ Make sure you select 'Qualifier' tool on the bottom left of the viewer. Then go to the 3 dots on the top right of your scopes and turn on 'Display Qualifier Focus'
Beginner here, i’m trying to import my 10bit 422 videos into davinci but i’am only able to import the audio file of it and not the video, can someone please help me out 😢
@@DannyGan also which computer for your workflow? I’ve come to find out my 2016 MacBook doesn’t handle anything over 8bit and I’m looking for a new setup.