Fatal Car VS Trailer | FDNY Extrication 

You could be the best driver in the world. But all it takes is some idiot to ruin your day. Trust me. I know.

@robin peppin It's VERY sobering. I, for one, do NOT want to be immortalized on RU-vid!

The Wide Awake Club They sure do at times it’s hard to separate family life from work life

Linda Thrall I bet loads suffer post traumatic stress. I couldn't do what they do. It was traumatic enough to see my Mam's lifeless body on the living room floor. Killed by the medical system. It was sudden. I wouldn't be able to get those bodies out of my mind. They must have tough souls.

my son is a firefighter in texas. he states they don't see themselves as hero nor want to be. They do their work for the injured .

I am gonna second guess whoever decided to let that woman who could barely reach the stretcher do CPR on the guy. I dare say, even if he had a chance for survival, not after she was done.

Matthew McKay I’m pretty certain, well I guess I should say, it was to the point of going through the motions for those who may be watching if I had to guess. As they had already witnessed signs of obvious death and just need ordered from ER or for Family and the such.....

@@Saltee323 .....

@Murada the man wasn't dead! He didn't die for several days!

@Aimee Webber if people would only READ! They all would have known that as well. Instead they just talk shit and have zero clue what they are taking about!

Gordon Start we are way behind in the times with the data in workable traumatic arrests in the USA! A medic should have put an monitor on the patient and if it shows an asystole then call it. I would have been in the phone with medical control advising of an traumatic arrest with prolong extrication and no access to pt for care! My last traumatic arrest the FD said we had to do it for show. Sorry if there isn’t a trauma surgeon onsite to perform an emergency thoracotomy or an trauma hospital across the street then it’s pretty pointless with the data available to work it! Plus you still get the adrenaline junkies and out dated protocols!

Yes in the US members of the press have a lot of rights afforded by the Constitution. It may not make sense in all situations, but the purpose is so that the government can't pick and choose when to interfere with their ability to report the truth. Our Supreme Court has ruled that transparency and being able to film public officials when they are on duty are important tenets of the First Amendment. Again, it may not make sense in all situations but in the grand scheme of things, it's good that our press is 100% free of government interference. That being said, we can certainly move them back if there is a safety issue or if they're interfering with the operation or the integrity of evidence but we rarely kick them out just because we don't want them to film. The general public is usually kept outside of emergency scene tape but in New York City bona fide members of the press are allowed to cross fire lines and emergency scene tape as long as they have a valid press pass and they let the scene commander know their intentions. They still have to follow orders but they are given a lot of freedom. As far as the victim being clearly deceased, I agree that I wouldn't have taken him out and started CPR. From the limited information I have from the video, I most likely would have contacted medical control and received permission to call it. That being said, it is a judgment call and I wasn't there on scene to see the extent of his injuries, feel when he lost a pulse, or how long he was or wasn't breathing, conscious, etc. With modern day resuscitation techniques it's not a bad idea to at least try if you see any signs of life. Worst case scenario they just wasted a little bit of their time and took the dead guy for a ride to the hospital but they really didn't make his situation any worse. Yes, as a retired member of the police department I'm not in love with the fact that they moved the body from a crime scene but if it's because they tried to save someone's life, I can live with that. The FDNY are one of the most professional and highly trained agencies in the world. Cities around the world consult them on their rescue techniques and response to serious incidents. So being that I wasn't on scene with them I'm going to assume that they know or saw something that I'm not aware of from just watching a video at home after the fact.

This was in NY

Gordon Start I think 🤔 that is the normal routine but the guy look savable. LOL 😝

The passenger survived and te driver died later at hospital - so why wait for coroner? FD is capable of locating a pulse ya know...

That's exactly what comes to my mind but, I am sure there is a better reason..

No this very true actually some departments even train to make a human wall to protect pt privacy.

The amount of personnel on scene is for different tasks and responsibilities for different people. For instance, they need cops to block off traffic, crowd control, and to be available if anything happens or anyone needs to be arrested. For all they know, this could have been a murder and the person could come back and start shooting again. In addition, the Highway officers (the ones with the high boots and the stripe down the side of their pants) along with their supervisor and Collision Investigation Squad detectives are dispatched to conduct the investigation if anyone is likely to die. They all have much more training and experience than a regular precinct unit when it comes to accident investigation, evidence collection, and things like determining impairment or if any laws are broken. If you listen to our radio scanner, you'll hear the dispatcher asking if anyone is "likely" which means "are they likely to die?", so they know whether or not to dispatch Collision Investigation Squad detectives. The NYPD Emergency Service Unit is usually dispatched to bad accidents because they have additional equipment and medical training, along with things that can help with investigating the scene. FDNY EMS sends however many ambulances are needed for the amount of patients and sometimes an additional ambulance or Conditions car (paramedic supervisor unit) for additional hands when the patient is critical or is in cardiac arrest. They are normally standing by until the patient is extricated. They may also send Rescue Medics who are specially trained and equipped to provide medical care in confined spaces and unstable environments. In addition, the fire department sends an engine company (the fire truck that sprays water) to all motor vehicle crashes in case of a fire or fuel spill. They also send a ladder company (no water but they're the guys with all the tools, cutters, spreaders, and pry bars) to assist in making the scene and vehicle stable and safe, along with extricating and cutting the patient out of the car. If the accident is bad enough or the extrication is complicated enough, they may also dispatch that borough's Heavy Rescue truck, the area's Battalion Chief, and the Rescue Battalion. That leaves us with a lot of people on scene ready to work if needed. They're not just hanging out as spectators though. Different people have different specialized training, equipment, and responsibilities and there is no way to know who will have to perform their function at the drop of a hat, so they all have to be there ready to go. You are correct in that we do try to block the view of people who are trying to film a dead body or gory scene. You're right that it is ridiculously disrespectful to the deceased and their family and if we can have a few guys stand in the way, their shot might just "accidentally" get ruined.

Fucking cops need to get out of our way and do crowd and traffic control!!!!!!!

@@dickgoezinyah Thank you for your insightful comment. Often wonder about firemen, trucks, and EMS and why they respond. Don't like snotty comments about why so many extra firemen are at a scene. Things can always be learned at each situation.

LOUDLABS NEWS NYC thanks for these videos. I did critical care for a long time so I only saw the ones that survived long enough to make it to triage. Watching these extrications answers a lot of questions for me.

I agree. I never previously agreed with such footage being available for entertainment. While I don't find it entertaining, I do believe it give people a reality check and encourages better road safety.

Boston PD- “GET THE FUCK OUTTA THE WAY!” 😂

CPD:Pop! Pop! Pop!!!

No! Nypd: get the fuck out of the way...NOW

YO that nigga DEAD!!!

was the women in red top that followed the gurney related to him i wonder? 🙏

I read she was a passenger in the car.

10 to 1 he was using his phone. Most crashes without any attempt to stop are directly related to distracted driving.

guessing

head injury on post

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Impaired drivers (unless they are sleeping) use the brakes, they don't just sail under a trailer. This was someone NOT watching the road, at all. My bet he was watching his phone and his passenger, her phone.

Yes all the continent..

Well I guess they did have to take him to far!

Sheri Olson ..Yes..the ""39 yr old lady"" The lady who is/was 39 years old""

Aimee Webber That's good to hear.. I feel sorry for her due to him not making it.

Mostly they all have different responsibilities at a crash sight this intense

He is press. Meaning he films for news stations and the like.

I am CPR certified and you are not supposed to do chest compression unless the person is not breathing and there is no pulse. DOA means Dead on arrival in other words the person was dead when the emergency team arrived to the scene.

@Aimee Webber Maybe because they were successful in reviving him? He was dead when they arrived and that's why they are doing CPR because there wasnt any oxegyn or blood moving through his body.

dave roche - Exactly. Single car + solo.

I think that man was beyond needing CPR. God Bless him.

@margief1798 you said CPR cannot be done unless you are above the person doing compressions....I beg to differ with you CPR can be done by someone walking beside a gurney. I have seen and also done CPR while walking beside a gurney! As a former Truma Surgical RN, I know this type of CPR is not as effective as you put it 'doing compressions correctly,' however it is done and has kept many a patient alive!

yet YOU watched this video . T.D . gfy

Go f myself? Wow you have some problems bud

no thats good for you . youre too sensitive . i was merely saying you by watching this video are also a gawker . anyway didnt you state you "a HATE " a gawker ? wow you have some problems bud

@@js4187 yeah but.. you're a gawker too... if you're commenting on the video that means that you must have watched a bit of it. Also don't be a dickhead.

hey hunter , keep up with the thread man . TD ( tiny dick) was stating he hates a gawker . I was commenting that by him watching the video he himself was a gawker . You see TD is saying hes hating all these people that stand around and watch these fires, or car accidents . he seems to think these people have no life , no reason to stand there and watch the suffering thats going on . I was merely pointing out that he does the same thing ,thereby making him a gawker too . Those people are assholes for watching this happen live , but hes ok because hes watching it on video . do you understand now . me .... Im a gawker . admitted and proud . also mind your own fucking business if it doesnt pertaint to you .

They dispatch that many fireman because they never know how much man power they will need to extricate someone or more than one . For instance ... if they use a saw to cut the entire top off of a car or even a heavier vehicle..the last thing they need to do at that moment is have to make a call for more help to lift the top off. They will already have all the manpower they need on the scene. It may appear that theres just a bunch of men standing around doing nothing, but when they're needed ,,, its a God send... It's better to have too many on the scene , than not enough even if they never end up needing them.

For 1 to block the view from ppl like this recording

She didn't get hurt at all in such a bad wreck, amazing. She's just walking around like nothing has happened.

She may have been contacted by authorities or family/friends. She is obviously a family member if they allowed her to go with him.

@@julieharper1704 You could be right about her not being hurt in this accident and I have seen people crawl out of a mangled car unscathed while others were trapped inside a vehicle, however I don't think this is the case with this horrific accident. The reason I think this is the Fire fighters latterly had to cut this mangled car up to extract the man and the woman to get them out. I do think she is some kind of kin or friend to the man who died at the hospital. She could have been family or friends with the 39-year-old woman seeing as the first responders pretty much allowed her to be that close.

She knew the victim.

@@infowarsrecast4679 That lady in the red hoodie who was recording was actually a front seat passenger. There was a back seat passenger as well, a male. Neither of them was seriously hurt.

DAYMN that Hispanic girl in the red hoodie, with the HIPS was a passenger in the right front seat??!!?? She didn't have even a scratch!!BTW, Kudos to the FDNY - they looked very professional at this scene - this from a retired paramedic. Way to go, guys !!RIP to the deceased.

It amazes me people still can't decipher when to use woman vs women...

Chris Breezy One woman = WOMAN. More than one woman= WOMEN. It’s never too late to get a first grade education, dumbfuck.

is all she worried about was making a video ....made me sick

Plz tell me your joking

Helen Jackman your wrong. One of them stopped us from recording

They are staying out of the fireman's way. Not equipped to do that job. Stop hating for no reason.

Why does that bother you so much?

It's probably her house.

Or her relative.

COUSIN of Chico Chico Chico .......If it were you alive in that car you’d want as many firemen there as possible !!!!

Susan Elder not true. I’ve been alive in the wreckage of a vehicle and too many people on scene just get in the way. It only takes four guys to cut a car apart, four cops to secure the scene and one ambulance, helicopter or coroner’s vehicle to transport the injured or dead. This amount of people working a scene is, pardon the term, overkill. If they send this many firefighters and cops to a single vehicle collision with one victim, how many do they send to a house fire? 50? 60? This is just ridiculous.

The amount of personnel on scene is for different tasks and responsibilities for different people. For instance, they need cops to block off traffic, crowd control, and to be available if anything happens or anyone needs to be arrested. For all they know, this could have been a murder and the person could come back and start shooting again. In addition, the Highway officers (the ones with the high boots and the stripe down the side of their pants) along with their supervisor and Collision Investigation Squad detectives are dispatched to conduct the investigation if anyone is likely to die. They all have much more training and experience than a regular precinct unit when it comes to accident investigation, evidence collection, and things like determining impairment or if any laws are broken. If you listen to our radio scanner, you'll hear the dispatcher asking if anyone is "likely" which means "are they likely to die?", so they know whether or not to dispatch Collision Investigation Squad detectives. The NYPD Emergency Service Unit is usually dispatched to bad accidents because they have additional equipment and medical training, along with things that can help with investigating the scene. FDNY EMS sends however many ambulances are needed for the amount of patients and sometimes an additional ambulance or Conditions car (paramedic supervisor unit) for additional hands when the patient is critical or is in cardiac arrest. They are normally standing by until the patient is extricated. They may also send Rescue Medics who are specially trained and equipped to provide medical care in confined spaces and unstable environments. In addition, the fire department sends an engine company (the fire truck that sprays water) to all motor vehicle crashes in case of a fire or fuel spill. They also send a ladder company (no water but they're the guys with all the tools, cutters, spreaders, and pry bars) to assist in making the scene and vehicle stable and safe, along with extricating and cutting the patient out of the car. If the accident is bad enough or the extrication is complicated enough, they may also dispatch that borough's Heavy Rescue truck, the area's Battalion Chief, and the Rescue Battalion. That leaves us with a lot of people on scene ready to work if needed. They're not just hanging out as spectators though. Different people have different specialized training, equipment, and responsibilities and there is no way to know who will have to perform their function at the drop of a hat, so they all have to be there ready to go. Here we do a lot of extensive, highly specialized training for specific functions. Instead of having generalist firefighters who are just okay at everything like where you probably come from, here in the city we want firefighters who are absolute experts at the one aspect they're performing. This is why the FDNY has one of the highest rates of successful resuscitation in the world. It's also why our guys serve as instructors in state fire academies and in training the firemen where you come from, because their level of training and experience in that one aspect is so high beyond anything anywhere else. If I was injured, I want want the absolute best specialists performing each individual function, rather than a couple "jack of all trades master of none" type of guys doing everything. Again, people's lives are on the line and the FDNY has the track record and statistics to prove why their way is better.

Dick Goezinya .........Thank you for explaining that.

@@TexasLadyS There could have been an unknown amount of people in the trailer. I'm sure the emergency response team know what they are doing. How long have you been working with them? Better to have more than not enough.

He probably had a pulse.

He was alive and died in July in the hospital.

The car could collapse further causing unnecessary injuries

You're not much of a Physics guy, huh? What happens to an unstable trailer that has had some of its supports knocked out by a vehicle and is now front heavy and hanging over the car when you start to pull out whatever is helping stabilize it and hold it up? Never mind the fact that you never, ever move a vehicle with a victim in it because if he isn't dead when you start moving it, he'll probably be dead after.

You dick

Arian Tahiraj he's dead u plonker

Stephen Gray no shit

Stephen Gray I’m just showing respect to his family and friends

You didn't even know him so why talk about him like you did douchebags

When you shoot a tiny kid several times with an assault rifle there isn’t much left to perform cpr on, dude.

@@nenanena8127 ....uh huh.....

@@Barkley2010 the only hoax around here is any suggestion that you have a brain in your head or possess a soul.

Key West Steve you r a dumb ass!

Right bc my family isn't suffering.... wish SH was a Hoax. 😭 People can be so heartless. Be thankful your child was not among them that fateful day!

Karen Plath Oh so this man’s life isnt as important as a damn hat?! They know what they’re doing! Chill out!

Don't know what you're talking about. Don't you have anything better to do than troll people's comments? This is so sad.

Susan Crouthamel Is it a law not to film?

@@MikeT-TheRetiredColonel I agree with you but am curious why the "rancid vagina"? You've got problems.

Hard to do CPR if hes trapped in the vehicle.

Shut up!

He wasn't dead till 5 days later so yeah, CPR was called for.

The amount of personnel on scene is for different tasks and responsibilities for different people. For instance, they need cops to block off traffic, crowd control, and to be available if anything happens or anyone needs to be arrested. For all they know, this could have been a murder and the person could come back and start shooting again. In addition, the Highway officers (the ones with the high boots and the stripe down the side of their pants) along with their supervisor and Collision Investigation Squad detectives are dispatched to conduct the investigation if anyone is likely to die. They all have much more training and experience than a regular precinct unit when it comes to accident investigation, evidence collection, and things like determining impairment or if any laws are broken. If you listen to our radio scanner, you'll hear the dispatcher asking if anyone is "likely" which means "are they likely to die?", so they know whether or not to dispatch Collision Investigation Squad detectives. The NYPD Emergency Service Unit is usually dispatched to bad accidents because they have additional equipment and medical training, along with things that can help with investigating the scene. FDNY EMS sends however many ambulances are needed for the amount of patients and sometimes an additional ambulance or Conditions car (paramedic supervisor unit) for additional hands when the patient is critical or is in cardiac arrest. They are normally standing by until the patient is extricated. They may also send Rescue Medics who are specially trained and equipped to provide medical care in confined spaces and unstable environments. In addition, the fire department sends an engine company (the fire truck that sprays water) to all motor vehicle crashes in case of a fire or fuel spill. They also send a ladder company (no water but they're the guys with all the tools, cutters, spreaders, and pry bars) to assist in making the scene and vehicle stable and safe, along with extricating and cutting the patient out of the car. If the accident is bad enough or the extrication is complicated enough, they may also dispatch that borough's Heavy Rescue truck, the area's Battalion Chief, and the Rescue Battalion. That leaves us with a lot of people on scene ready to work if needed. They're not just hanging out as spectators though. Different people have different specialized training, equipment, and responsibilities and there is no way to know who will have to perform their function at the drop of a hat, so they all have to be there ready to go. Here we do a lot of extensive, highly specialized training for specific functions. Instead of having generalist firefighters who are just okay at everything like where you probably come from, here in the city we want firefighters who are absolute experts at the one aspect they're performing when they're trying to save your life. This is why the FDNY has one of the highest rates of successful resuscitation in the world. It's also why our guys serve as instructors in state fire academies and in training the firemen where you come from, because their level of training and experience in that one aspect is so high beyond anything anywhere else. If I was injured, I want want the absolute best specialists performing each individual function, rather than a couple "jack of all trades master of none" type of guys doing everything. Again, people's lives are on the line and the FDNY has the track record and statistics to prove why their way is better.

He was not dead. He died about a week later

STFU.