FATE: The Winx Saga gave me whiplash | Explained 

Somehow this sent me down a rabbit hole where I read all the Fate: The Winx Saga Bloom/Stella fanfiction what is WRONG with me? Like there was only 5 but STILL

one of the things I hate the most about the "live adaptation" is that they pit the girls against each other for a boy while the cartoon taught us of supporting your friends and lifting each other up

I am so angry they made Stella into a bitch. She was rich and spoiled from being an actual princess, yes, but she was a genuine sweetheart who wanted to help Bloom and the others and was just a really good person.

Remember how in the original Bloom was happily adopted and her parents were aware of her fairy heritage and loved and supported her? Or hoe the show's core theme was the unbreakable sisterhood between the Winx girls? Well, none of that healthy relationship nonsense here! Just leather jackets and Riverdale speech!

You know what sucks is that in the animated series Bloom was openly adopted. Her dad was a firefighter and found her as a baby in a fire and they took her in. It was a huge plot point that she loved her adopted parents as much as she wanted to learn about her birth family and powers and they were supportive of this. Making parents abusive and erasing a positive adoption narrative is so toxic lmao

Why does Netflix think 90s kids want their favorite cartoons back but sad and edgy and colorless. Seriously why is Riverdale so grey.

I really don't like how Bloom had no repercussions after she caused so much trouble, even after Sam almost died because she set Rosalind free. I can't believe Aisha had to say sorry to bloom instead of Bloom saying sorry to everyone. Honestly Bloom is the most dislikable main character I have ever seen, she is so selfish.

I’m adopted and the one thing I’ve always hated in shows with the whole adopted storyline is always the “I have to find my real parents”/“I don’t know who I am without them”. I’ll tell you who you are without, the exact same person you were before. I have never called my biological mom my real mom. My (adopted) mom is my real mom and she’s the one who helped me find myself and teach me about life/morals. You don’t suddenly learn all of that by meeting your “real” mom. I could never relate to any adoption story on TV because of that. It was genuinely so frustrating and I always felt bad for my mom, when adoptive parents are never referred to as “real” parents .

Why isn't anyone talking about the fashion? Forget bright colors, Stella dresses like my mother, and I am 39. And Terra uses really unflattering clothes. The original show had actual designers draw some of the fashion the girls used, that was a big part of the appeal of Winx

I hate the whole concept of Stella being a mean girl. In the original show she’s a bit shallow, but overall a very sweet person who openly cares about her friends. Idk why they added the mean girls drama :/

"Created by a former "Vampire Diaries" writer". And I'm out.

I HATE it when in fiction an adopted character talks about finding their "real" parents. You mean "biological" or "birth" parents, right? Why doesn't anyone call her out on it. I have friends who are adopted and they would never call the bio parents real because that implies that their adopted parents are, IDK, fake? unreal? why?

The worst part of the whole remake, is the fact that Stella and Bloom were made romantic rivals rather than best friends. The whole tournament arc where Bloom is destroyed by Skye being engaged to someone else and backs her over all the royalty, was the moment I wished I had a friend like that when I grew up. Absolutely terrible and a huge trainwreck.

I laughed when Bloom said she didn't want Sky to "mansplain" when he was trying to give her directions and help her out. Helping someone, who is new and visibly looks like they are lost, isn't mansplaining; it's just regular explaining. I think the writers added it in for budget feminism. Mansplaining is "the explanation of something by a man, typically to a woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing". I never saw giving directions to a lost person in the definition. I have been the new girl before and no one helped me; I would have been happy for any help back when I was in school. During a majority of the show, all the girls did was fight and be mean to each other. Aisha has been reduced to the token black friend who builds up the pretty lead female character.

The fucking slaughtering of Stella’s characterization and her close friendship with Bloom really makes me so mad

It’s basically just Shadow Hunters. Red headed heroine, who doesn’t know her past because she was hidden from her magical world as a baby. And one of the first people she meets in this world is the blonde sword welding, leather jacket wearing worrier love interest. Then just like all the Nextflic teen originals the main heroine continues to make selfish decisions for her own personal reasons. Until she fucked up bad then asks for help to fix the problems she’s created only to do another selfish thing to create a cliffhanger for the next season.

Hmm yes, show originally about girls getting along and being besties who use team work? Hmm let's turn that into all of them hating each other and all only caring about some boy

Honestly one of the worst parts of the show is how it's tone is just 'what adults think teens are like' with all the sex, drugs and weird ass feminism. How did a show, ATTEMPTING to push progressive mindsets, erase TWO POC CHARACTERS. HOW.

This show was just so ridiculous in a billion ways. They changed Musa's ethnicity, they white washed Flora (there is evidence of the original script using Flora in it, so they clearly just added flora as a family member of Terra to not get backlash), they turned Aisha into ANOTHER generic black side kick and even VILLAINIZED HER for being SMART?, turned Bloom into even MORE of a brat who constantly belittles others ESPECIALLY Aisha, and Stella got turned into a generic blonde bully who only dresses the way she does because it's forced upon her by society. And tecna is dead. It was honestly so tiring to see how everyone turned into such a generic trope. They even turned Bloom and Stella into love rivals?! Stella was also the one who was blooms closest friend trying to help her out in the actual winx, but they used Aisha for that in this show and turned her into another character used only for Bloom getting rid of everything that Aisha was in the original winx. I also know how some people were excited for Terra as she is plussize, but they turned her into another plussize girl who has anxiety and belittles herself constantly and at some point was even begging people to belittle her clothing style when Stella wasn't there?! Then we also find out bloom and her mom have an awful relationship, and so does Stella with her mom, both of which never happened, but okay. But then we find out bloom almost killed her mother because of their bad relationship?! and then she was just the most entitled brat ever imaginable and never got likable. It's also hilarious to me that they turned the trix into ''Beatrix'', yet Beatrix was portrayed as less of a bitch then Stella to me. I kept asking my friend who the hell is supposed to be the evil person here, because Beatrix her impact imo wasn't that great in the show AT ALL. Also, like you said, Bloom suddenly being able to do a half transformation without ever even having learned how to control her power was just ridiculous. It also wasn't even a transformation, and was very badly done. Like I told my friend, if they wanted a show based off of winx club, but change everyone's personality, white wash some people, remove others, using generic tropes and even change the setting of the world with things like ''transformations are ancient magic'' or whatever, they could've easily done that and just NOT called it winx club. Why not say its a continuation of the winx world? Thousands of years later, which would also give them all the freedom they need. But no, they wanted the hype of the brand Winx Club and turned it into the opposite of the original winx. I have heard some people say that the show is good if you just forget that its based on winx, but even then the show imo is not good at all because it's just a billion tropes thrown together in the worst way. Stella suddenly became a good person, when she never had proper character growth. Bloom never was likable even though she's the main character. Aisha was likable and smart but then got villainized and was just a prop to bloom. Musa was decent but didn't have that much screentime or effect on much and Terra was another plussize shy girl who hates herself and begs for people to belittle her. All whilst combined with Stella and bloom being love rivals, abusive households, bad relationship with parents and over sexualizing 16y old teens whilst not allowing them to wear actual nice clothes like every teen show on netflix. It has enough problematic elements even without the association with the original winx, and if you add that association which people should because that's what the show writers decided to do, it's just horrible.

You know, I wouldn't mind that they added a plus-size character if they didn't make her story about the guy she's romantically interested in mocking her behind her back. Can't fat girls just exist in this world without our stories being about how we're so undesirable?

Listen were all either gay or depressed, we dont want edgy and dark . We just want glitter and the feeling of nostalgia. They honestly had so much potential with the cartoon and could've made it great but it's like the writers went on twitter and saw some edgy memes and thought ohh so this is what teens want

This was literally "Chilling Adventures Of The Winx Club"

Ugh they really butchered Stella, who was in fact, my favorite. She wasn't a mean girl, a bit airheaded and could be selfish, but she still loved her friends. They just had to make her a stereotypical blonde mean girl, that's just really stupid.

i'm mostly impressed how they whipped out stella's boyfriend so they can make bloom and stella fight for sky???? with what purpose?? female rivalry i guees why not?

I can't understand Netflix. They have "Anne with an E" and "To all the boys I loved before" proving them that teens can watch cute and colorful stuff that still have deep topics and diverse characters. Not everything needs to go Riverdale or new Sabrina.

I just realized that Aisha went from swimming 3+ times a day everyday to being Bloom’s personal assistant. Even taking the assistant job to spy for her. Clearly very dedicated to her element and her sport, but gotta help my white roommate!

In the original cartoon Aisha was such a badass character,with a whole Arc for her own and in this show they made all her motivation and story resumed in save bloom's ass( And being VILLAINIZED for that) . This makes me so angry

You forgot to mention the complete lack of staff at the school, a head mistress, a botany teacher, and a fighting instructor and oh and the assistant that gets killed.

Instead of them making this live action, they could have added ALL the seasons of original Winx Club 😭😠

Netflix has that habit of making sure the only Black female character has no story arc and I have to respect their consistency

The Riven in the animated series was a caring bad boy who didn't take crap from anyone. But he and Musa had an on and off toxic relationship which could have been explored so much. Stella was the mean girl without being mean. She was fun and sassy and a fashion icon. But in this she is just a bich. And in the animated series Stella had a boyfriend, Brandon. Their relationship was amazingly iconic. I can't belive that didn't happen.

I don’t get why they didn’t keep the bright colors and themes of friendship. That’s what like... most people loved about the original. You can make a deep show with bright colors and cute aesthetics. Anyway, the original show was a lot better and this shit is just bland.

There’s a lot to hate about this show as a Winx fan, but I’m truly upset and hurt by the fact that they forced Aisha into a stereotypical black friend stereotype. They took away all her agency.

The two biggest, objective problems with FATE: The Winx Saga was 1. The white washing, and 2. The fact that they missed out on the core message of Winx: friendship above all else. In the remake it seemed like the girls didn't even like each other very much

What I don't get is why there are literally just three teachers running the entire school, one of whom is also the principal. I just picture them RUNNING from class to class trying to squeeze in atleast one educational session for each student every day, while hundreds of students wander around aimlessly not knowing what to do when their one hour school day is over.

I can't believe that Aisha was framed as being the bad guy for telling Dowling when she was RIGHT, all Bloom had to do was wait a night for Dowling to tell her everything, and instead she freed a war criminal and set off a chain of events that handed all the villains a victory.

The show is like someone who never watched Winx, hates everything Girly and has only read the first paragraph on its wikipedia page trying to recreate it with the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina and the bad Legend of Aang lifeaction movie as a blueprint. At least it got me into rewatching the original show here on RU-vid but I'll skip out on watching any more of this garbage.

Just like any other show about "troubled" American teenagers. Hate your parents, being mean but popular, doing drugs, not knowing who you are. How original. Gimme a break 😒

gen Z don't want romance drama and edginess, we want pretty colours, campy fun and diversity

I just know they’re going to make Aisha a Bonnie. Except never give her a love interest because Black women are supposed to be strong and alone all the time in the eyes of Hollywood. I hate this show so much

One of the things that confuses me about this show is who it's aimed for. The show is completely different from the original. They removed characters, locations, arcs, etc and added in unnecessary elements. They insist this is for older fans of the show, yet they don't understand why we like the original show in the first place. It honestly would do much better if it's marketed towards another audience.

Next they're gonna ruin Totally Spies aren't they.

Let's be honest this would have been better if the show was just called "Fate" leaving the Winx part out of it🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

And those FASHION CHOICES!??! Colorful and unique desings were a significant part of the original show. And now that y2k fashion is super popular again, why not use it??

“It just reminded me of those kids who wanted to pretend that they were smarter and more productive than other people so they would just write all of these pointless notes with a color-coded system.” Don’t come for me like that 😂

They say it's for young adults, but let's be honest, this show is for 14ish kids who think they are mature enough to watch "young adults" content. I hardly believe people over 20 thinks anything in that show it's relatable. Just like Riverdale and the bad version of Sabrina.

As someone who watched Winx as a kid... Why is this series Winx? There's no reason for it. The two shows barely have anything in common. It could've been a completely original series. But then how would they make any money if not with nostalgia??? I'm also so tired of "for more mature audience" meaning "no color, everyone's and edgy, depressed asshole and can't forget about all the sex and drugs!" Adult shows can be so unimaginative, overly complicated and dull to look at.

As a guy, I'm offended that shows like this go all out to recast the unattainably hot female characters as "body diverse" and racial diverse, but then the male characters are all tall, predominantly white, muscular Adonises. Why not have a chunky, Hispanic male lead play the original blonde character? Or is body positivity only for girls?

They just removed Brandon from the whole storyline and made Stella and Bloom “compete” over Sky as if that’s the only character arc girls have instead of sticking together and not letting a man come in between them.

they had one (1) plus sized character and didn't even seem to put any effort into dressing her in flattering clothes. these stylists need to remember that 'big dress with leggings' isnt the only thing plus size women wear

The "Lady of the fly, don't be sexist" line hurt me in my core

I never got why shows like Riverdale and The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina couldn't stick with the plot of the comics they were based around (the comics were actually really well written - and very dark, in Sabrina's case). Turing them into braindead soap operas garbage just ruined whatever potential they may have had.

It's frustrating to see even more whitewashing of Asian characters that I grew up with, and doing that whole edging up kid's shows for a teenage audience thing is really tiring at this point 😒

The worst part is that they got rid of Daphné. Bloom's sister. She provided so much emotional support for her. It is horrible how they got rid of that character.

If they even blink in the direction of a Live Action Danny Phantom, I'm going on a murderous rampage.

Where the hell is Brandon?? Stella actual boyfriend... God I'm just gonna re-watch Queen's Gambit

As a teenager (16, American) this doesn’t appeal to me at all. I watched some of the original Winx Club when I was little and I really liked it! And I’m a dude! So when I heard the sentence “weird marijuana threesome” and the near sex scenes I was like “whatith the fuckith”. Teens still need shows that focus on friendship and tackles those sorts of relationships with nuance. All of these dark and edgy shit storms are repetitive, and while many of us are into darker topics (myself included; I’m writing a book that deals with teen drug abuse and trauma), I’m not doing it to be edgy. You can tell the difference in a work of media. One is being up points, the other is to be flashy (maybe don’t normalize heavy drug abuse and isolation???). I don’t particularly enjoy being pandered to. It feels like these shows are trying to be peacocks in angsty eyeliner. This is just my lukewarm take.

Summary: Overall, this series would probably be a lot less upsetting if they just used new characters and didn't try to represent the original ones at all. We (those who grew up with the original) all just want nostalgia, we want cute 2000s outfits and glitter, the magic of friendship, *_SWEETHEART HUNK SKY_*. I don't want to see a show I loved become so dark, so unrecognizable, and I feel that others agree. This show hurts worse because they mangled lovable characters from our childhood. Discussion: I seriously can't finish this video, it is upsetting me and _ALL_ the homegirls. Not only did they decide to do the typical "make this super dark for no reason" thing Netflix likes to do, it messed up *SO* much. You're right, this is like a Winx fanfic. Except it's written by guys who wanted to make a "I'm not like other girls" Bloom. I would've liked it better had they made a new set of characters that weren't the Winx. Maybe kids of the Winx, a different group, whatever, just not the originals, half of which aren't represented. Musa, a "mind fairy"? Why didn't they just keep her with music, and they didn't even make her Asian! They should've just made her someone else, not Musa, that's _not_ Musa. Aisha's become the token black character, I see. Not like she was a fun, vibrant princess who loved anything athletic and was always friendly and loved, I guess that was in my imagination. Terra.....Terra....so they did do the "make a new character" thing, and that would've been fine had they not made her an "earth fairy", so similar to her "cousin" Flora, and...WHITE! They removed a beloved character of the series to replace her with less representation. They could've just cut her tie to Flora completely and made her Latina, like Flora, since she's a replacement. Stella's now the token bitchy rich white girl, which I hate so much. Stella wasn't like that at all, she _was_ spoiled, and _was_ a princessey type girl, because she's a princess, but she was really sweet too. She wouldn't fight over Bloom for Sky, she'd fit her in the best clothes and makeup to help her get him. Techna....sis is dead, they murked her and she was for the nerds, RIP, we lost a good one. Bloom, she's a y/n. A "I wake up in the afternoon in a sweatshirt and sweatpants, lace up my Converse, wear my jeans and plain shirt, because I'm not like other girls" y/n. They piled on the teen angst with her, when Bloom was a really nice character, she loved her parents (her parents were so supportive, too), regardless of being adopted and _SHE WAS BEST FRIENDS WITH STELLA_. They really should've made this character not Bloom, they should've made all of them not our Winx. Don't even get me started on the Specialists. Sky was one of my first cartoon crushes, and he was such a sweetheart. A surfer guy! A hunk with a heart of gold! He would never be....whatever he is now. Do they even _HAVE_ Brandon? The best part of Winx Club was them switching Sky with Brandon, where Stella and Bloom fell in love with their respective guys under false identities. Riven....idk, I actually don't remember too much about Riven, but he was the king of toxicity, so maybe these dumbos got that one right.

the removed one of the Winx entirely (Techna the fairy of technology) whitewashed 2 others (Musa and Flora Asian and Hispanic respectively) one of whom they changed the name of (Flora was changed to Terra) brought in a character that didn't appr on the cartoon till season 3 (Asisha) blooms hair isn't flame red (literally an aspect of her powers was that it made her hair flame like)

The story just isnt winx at all? Excluding the whitewashing and cast issues, the plot doesnt match up either. The two schools are combined, bloom's a changeling, how she ended up finding out she was a fairy is completely different, burned ones, the headmistress dying at the end-none of it feels like winx. Whats the point in remaking something in liveaction if it doesnt even resemble the original story?

The only LGBTQ character was a gay baited character that they literally comment about 1,000 times, but never confirm he is gay or bi and they can still just pull a destiel and call him straight in season 2 tbh. so I see NO LGBTQ characters so......

So you're saying that the asian and latina were replaced with white girls, and the black girl gets neglected? I wonder why...

*Look how they massacred my Bloom...*

They really blew past "oh my God the baby we gave birth to died and while we love our adopted daughter, we still need to grieve our other child" pretty damn fast.

I’m honestly tired of gritty remakes/reboots from material that wasn’t like that in the first place specially when they take characters and drastically change them from friends to “why are these suppose friends talking to each other if they hate each other?” or make a character who was once kind and supportive into a nasty person. Also why is all color removed from the show, what’s wrong with bright colors? It’s just disappointing to say this is a live action winx club when it isn’t truly that.

Did... did this show just play Devil’s advocate for genocide? “It’s fine to wipe out entire cities as long as they’re full of evil people”? Wtf...

Blooms earth parents in the og were legit the best people on earth. That family had so much love and such a strong bond. I will never forgive netflix for changing that.

I loved the Winx, I don't think I can endure watching the Netflix show

'Nothing will top Edward Cullen looking up "Vampire Babies"'. God, I love Amanda.

So let me get this straight...Netflix cancelled Atypical, Teenage Bounty Hunters and The Society to make this steaming pile of garbage??? K.

this show is an insult to fanfiction, tbh

If Riverdale and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina had a baby, this would be it.

“Girl with a mysterious past who has more power than everyone around her and can’t control it and does basically nothing to learn to control it before she releases her god like power with no issues” is EXACTLY how I felt about Rey from the new sequels.

I managed to get 18 minutes into the first episode before the cringe became too much to bear. The Winx Club was my childhood and Flora was my favorite, this adaption feels borderline insulting and I sincerely hope they don't get renewed for another season - where they'll likely try to patch in things to fix their problems retroactively, like throwing a latina woman at the screen to show us "here's flora, see we didnt whitewash her"

Repeat after me Netflix: a edgy reboot doesn't automatically make a show better

Remember how in the actual series Bloom found out that she was adopted and felt like she wouldnt be her parents' daughter now and her parents were super understanding and we never had that annoying "youre not my REAL parents" moment? And when she learnt about her birth parents and found them they and her adoptive parents were very kind to eachother altho a bit awkward? in the movie they even have a scene where adoptive parents show her birth parents videos of Bloom growing up and now Bloom just has two pairs of parents she loves both equally and its very adorable and strangely mature for a kids show about fairies. But Netflix was like NAH bish they have to hate eachother cuz shes not their real kid

when Tecna is so smart that the directors couldnt figure her out lmao :"))))

Okay no, Alfia is not on Solaria, that is where Stella lives, Alfia is on Magix, WTF writers?

I just realized Aisha saying "is that american for sorry i almost set you on fire" DOESNT MAKE SENSE. Aisha wouldn't know or care about America or Earth isms and since she only really knows that Bloom is from a place on planet Earth it's like if bloom had a specific thing to say about aishas' home town accent which she probably has no cultural knowledge about.

Aisha doesn't have a storyline because Netflix iis f-cked up when it comes to their treatment of woc

I'm just tired of "dark" and "realistic" reboots and adaptations whose characters talk in whispers. I'm going back to anime.

We were *just* chatting about this!! Stoked to see your take!

I'm italian and 24, I was the right age when the first season came out and I loved it, I mean I still watch the first 3 seasons sporadically when I'm emotionally exhausted... this FATE thing can't exist.. and also the last seasons of the cartoon with all of the white washing.. AND WTF AISHA'S POWER IS ENERGY AS A WHOLE, NOT WATER. And the special bond between the fairies, the series is ALL about that and not bitching around.

I'm so sad they got rid of Stella's love interest. They (from what I remember) had a really good relationship and yeah, she was a princess and rich, but she still cared about everyone and had good plot points

The girl cast as Terra was originally cast as Flora, her name was change though and that line was thrown in to make it seem like they weren't whitewashing Flora.

The saddest was Aisha, she didn't debut until season 2 in the original cartoon but she had a big role and arc half season after her introduction ,while in this she is just left in the sides

About the relationship plots: Aisha does have two love interests in the original. The first one dies, it was very sad. Also I think Riven was asian-coded in the original (he was also never very great I'm glad Musa ultimately dumped him)

Was anyone else as upset as me about Dane, the only overtly bi character and black male MC who looked like he just walked out of a fashion show, made good initial observations, and had an adorable friendship/budding romance with Terra, get wedged into the dumbest love triangle with discount-Harry Styles but make him sexist and the literal villain of the story? Please tell me it was not just me

Ayesha should wear the shirt that says "black women are not here to save you"

bloom, directions are not mansplaining. girl, if you're gonna gimme faux feminism, at lest get your $hit together.

I'm confused as to why they felt the need to make all these changes, and add new characters considering all the characters they took out? Like, on the Specialist side, they just took 4 of them out and put 2 new ones back in, why not just leave them as it is? Helia would have been a great addition for his "gentle soul" energy (but lbr they would have made him an edgy boy with an acoustic guitar and an emo fringe who needs music to ease his soul or whatever the fuck), I'm incredibly confused why they took out Tecna, changed Musa's powers (and strictly Aisha's too but that's not so bad, morphix was basically water anyway), removed their varying family situations (Stella's parent's divorce, Musa's dead mother, Aisha's tensions with her family over arranged marriages and such), made Bloom's parents into assholes (Mike and Vanessa would NEVER), basically removed Cloud Tower in its entirety, took out all the segments where the girls worked and sacrificed things to gain their powers, took out the transformations and fairy forms... The original show had so much interesting stuff in it, and if they weren't interested in any of it they should have just made a new show.

In the original Bloom told her parents about fairies and Solaria in the first episode lol funny how Netflix decided to keep it a secret

Why would you make a dark and gritty Winx Club reboot? That’s like making a dark and gritty version of that Trolls cartoon from the early 2000’s it’s just weird

I’m sure Dowling ain’t dead, because her eyes started glowing believe she was killed, meaning she activated her magic, and since she’s a mind fairy, she probably just put a vision in Rosalinds head to make it look like Rosalind actually killed here. Also it’s the writer vom Vampire Diary’s which means no one actually ever dies, best example Andreas.

Questions: Why the Italian Creator didn't defend her works? Why she lets them reboot? Oh, why she didn't ask them question about the show before they reboot? Winx Club doesn't need a reboot.

"Pokemon is for boys" is a take made by people who have never actually seen a Pokemon.

“Lady of the Flies, don’t be sexist.” More like don’t misgender Beelzebub, Bloom’s dad!

the love triangle between bloom, stella and sky absolutely infuriates me because 1) it completely ignores the best relationship in the show: stella and brandon, whose dynamic is always compelling and they complement each other better than any of the other characters (my girl almost died trying to save him from marrying that underground queen, your fave could never), 2) making stella a bitch is so disappointing, like yeah she had her bitchy and spoiled moments, but she has a big heart and is fiercely loyal to her friends, ESPECIALLY BLOOM WHO IS HER BEST FRIEND and 3) makes bloom's and sky's relationship so much more boring. like the love triangle with whatshername in season 1 of the animated show was compelling because it presented a choice for sky: love or duty. sky never cared for anyone but bloom romantically, and making the person he's into stella of all people is ..... so bad in so many ways

I was talking about how I disliked the reboot and someone commented on how I should be thanking netflix for making the Winx better because the original was "garbage". Imagine liking a riverdale knockoff reboot 🤮

"Terra has a crush on Dane." Aw yay, interracial representation! Good. "But Dane is bi." Same, fam. Love me some bi rep too. "...but they don't go anywhere with it." Oh, so they're just...making bi seem edgy and pushing it to be like Dane is gay? Yeah, that's not cool. :< "And he likes Riven. But Riven likes Beatrix." Okay, sounds complicated.... "And then, they coerce Dane to mess with Terra by having a weed-fueld threesome." Uh....wtf.... That's so mean? Poor Terra. They bullied her for her feelings??? And she's a plus-sized girl. Why is it always the plus-sized girls having their hearts broken and their emotions belittled? Ugh. I don't like how they replaced Flora with her. Flora was my favorite character.