Artoria's Excalibur: Rank A++ Anti-FortressType. Poweful, and while quite destructive, is beaten out handly by Gilgamesh's Anti-World Noble Phantasm. Arthur's Excalbur: Rank EX. While the type is unknown, it evaporated sea and cleaved Gilgamesh's Noble Phantasm-and Gilgamesh-in half. Gilgamesh's Noble Phantasm has an unknown type, but it summoned the great flood and was implied to be capable to destroy the world. As a result, Excalibur Proto is an Anti-Anti-World Noble Phantasm: a weapon that will defend the planet from destruction without fail. It is the true Sword of Promised Victory.
KDavisJr86 Artoria's Excalibur has the same power of Proto Arthur's Excalibur, but it only shows it's true power against planetary threats like Sefar (It killed Sefar in a single hit 10.000 years in the past in CCC verse)
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub Wait what do you mean by that? You mean Artoria's Excalibur, the A++ one, has an increased damage boost against threats that can potentially destroy the planet and the world?
@@henriedavid Yes, it has the power to save the world, but is always restricted by the Counter Force (unlike Excalibur proto that can release it's True Power if enough conditions are met) unless the enemy is a threat to the planet, as shown when it killed Sefar in CCC verse (Sefar killed thousands of gods, almost killed all humanity, and she was stated to be able to destroy the Earth)
Also, while it's true that normally Excalibur Proto is more powerful than Excalibur, it's ridiculous to measure their power by comparing Ea to Enki, ( Ea can destroy the planet while Enki can only flood it)
TL;DR = Female can spam the shit out of it but only if she has enough energy... male can only use it once but is a lot stronger. There's an innuendo in there somewhere~
This Gilgamesh is less of an arrogant dick than FSN Gilgamesh. Arthur's Master was going to die from an illness, and he was willing to give him the antidote no questions asked, as long as Arthur beat Gilgamesh. And even though he did (cleaving him in two in the process), it's impliesd he'd give up the antidote anyways. Also, while FSN Gilgamesh's battle strategy was spam Gate of Babylon until dead, it left him shitty at melee combat, which is why he lost to Shirou. Proto Gil does not have that weakness, and it shows as he's a very serious threat.
KDavisJr86 I believe Gilgamesh lost to Shirou directly because of his ego. In the final moments when Shirou was up in the air, Gilgamesh summoned Ea, but hesitated to pull it out of the gate of babylon. That hesitation granted Shirou enough time to slash Gilgamesh's arm off when Gilgamesh finally decided to actually wield Ea against a "cockroach."
I'm pretty sure Gil from FSN was a big threat too, I mean he was the main antagonist at least twice I think. He only got beaten because he's an arrogant asshole who refuses to use his full power against those beneath him, which bites him in the ass.
+BCoballes Wrong, I'm afraid. Ea has been confirmed multiple times to be the most powerful offensive noble phantasm, it has power and hax beyond any other weapon in the Fate universe. Arthur's Excalibur is EX ranked, so it would hold against Ea better than Arturia's did, but it would still lose in the end. Now if it was both excaliburs at once against Ea, that might turn out differently...
Arthur's Excalibur is always stronger than Arturia's but it's very difficult to unlock the restraints. Normally Arthur can only unlock 6 of 13 restraints. That alone have power faaaaar surpasses Arturia's Excalibur
That's because Arthur only needs half of the seals unlocked to use the full power of Excalibur. In Arturia's case, each seal unlocked delivers additional power to Excalibur so only if all the seals are unlocked, can Arturia use full-powered Excalibur. Both Excaliburs have the same maximum output, only the requirements are different.
@@vermeerdragyl341 Also the user's own output influences the strength of Excalibur. The best example being the one that used Excalibur VS Velber, due to it being in the age of Gods, (aside from being fully unrestrained) it was able to release an output to destroy Sefar, who killed the Greek Pantheon's origimal bodies
Arthur's Excalibur is not stronger than Artoria's. There is literally no evidence to suggest either is stronger than the other. And before you bring it up, no an EX rank Noble Phantasm is not necessarily stronger than an A++. EX rank doesn't mean stronger than A, it means it's harder to determine its actual true strength. EMIYA's Unlimited Blade Works is rank EX, do you think it's stronger than Artoria's Excalibur? The answer to that is no. UBW is rank EX because it can do tons of shit that have varying levels of strength and usefulness, some things are way more useful in certain situations than others. Arthur's Excalibur is EX because of the nature of the seals, if he doesn't meet enough requisites he can't unleash it's true name (needs over half of the 13 released to get a perfect True Name release) and thus can't unleash a fullish strength blast (he can do a weaker blast with less than seven released), Artoria's Excalibur has no such restriction, and it only has one seal on it with only one requirement, that the wielder of the blade be facing an enemy that is a true threat to the very world itself like Sefar was, meanwhile Arthur needs: -The enemy must be more powerful than oneself -The battle must be one-on-one -The enemy must not be an elemental -The battle must be one against evil -The battle must not involve personal gain -The battle must not be against Humanity -The battle must not be inhumane -The battle must be for truth -The battle must be to live -The battle must be to save the world -One's comrades-in-arms must be courageous -The battle must not be against one pure of heart -The battle must be an honorable one
No Irisviel, this is how you do the commentary... Saber: Now is the time to release it! Saber Class! No, FGO's Greatest AoE Buster Noble Phantasm! Plus Mana Burst! and Plus Charisma! Ex-Calibur!!! "Sabers who can't shoot beams aren't Sabers" - Artoria (Original), Fate/GUDAGUDA Order Drama CD1.
NoblePhantasmable Wrong, Excalibur does 150% more damage and is a God slaying weapon. Not only that, its original purpose was to fend off planet level threats. Excalibur is among the most powerful of Noble Phantasms. Don't be an anti-Arturia wanker for no reason.
Jethro Vitorio Scultor Her noble seems kinda weak to me tbh. Saber alter's noble is better imo cause it strikes 3 or 4 times. But.. shes only 4 star ;__;
+opzero i I think that Arthur doesn't have Avalon which is an EX rank Noble Phantasm as well. Also Arthur is completely incapable of using his Excalibur unless a) he is in an honorable fight or b) his opponent is stronger than him.
***** Well, it's EX rank and it has the seals like Proto Excalibur but I don't know if the conditions for release are the same. With reguards to it being a lance and not a spear, that is change made for the game. Originally, Rhon was spear. We saw it in one of Artoria's flashbacks - the one when she defeats Mordred (she kills her by way of a stab through the chest).
It is obvious that the second attack looks like it had more impact because Arthur was pointing it to the sky while Artoria made sure to limit her damage when delivering the final blow.
I'm always amazed by ufotables cinematography, like seriously. The animation is amazing and all, but the way they set up their scenes is phenomenal as well.
Well, in FGO Proto Arthur had a line about Mordred where he comments on how cute she is. Ironically Proto Arthur will probably be a better father to Mordred than to Proto Mordred.
Well, regarding Atoli, colour me impressed! Saber is quite a tomboyish voice and Atoli is pure, undistilled moé. This just shows the quality of a lot of Japanese voice actresses: A good Japanese voice actress is a woman of a thousand voices.
i was talking about arthur proto NP,why you respond with artoria,what are you talking about.everyone know excalibur proto belong to arthur pendragon are EX
Archzenom well it did wipe out half the city from the teaser trailer and that was after Arthur was running on fumes from his fight with proto Gilgamesh.
Let’s see -The enemy must be more powerful than oneself It’s a giant space laser moon-check -The battle must be one-on-one Kind of a toss up, depends if you count a space station as one entity-possible check -The enemy must not be an elemental Obviously not an elemental-check -The battle must be one against evil Evil killer moon piloted by the evil empire-check -The battle must not involve personal gain Does “personal gain” include not getting lasered? Because I don’t think it’s that anal- check -The battle must not be against Humanity Well the Empire are human centric-probably no check -The battle must not be inhumane Another weird definition, but presumably shooting at the angry space rock is considered okay-check -The battle must be for truth The fuck does this one even mean?-possible check -The battle must be to live Well, obviously- check -One's comrades-in-arms must be courageous Really depends on their backup-possible check -The battle must not be against one pure of heart Unless we’re counting pure evil we’re good-check -The battle must be an honorable one Not sure how honorable fighting a planetoid is-possible check -The battle must be to save the world Damn straight it is-CHECK! So that’s 8 seals guaranteed and another 4 within the realm of possibility. Yeah this guy is cutting the Death Star in half
Between Avalon, Excalibur, Excalibur proto, and EA, I would choose Avalon. Excalibur proto is a close second though. EA may be hax powerful, but I’d rather not have every version of Gilgamesh in existence after my head!
Arturia tuvo que estar en impecable fisicamente para lograr un excalibur que cubrió parte del rio, Arturo estando sangrando y con heridas de gravedad logro un excalibur que cubrio toda la ciudad JODER QUEREMOS ARTURO pliss
En realidad Artoria no podía usar Excalibur porque Lancer le había cortado un tendón, que por la maldición de la lanza no podía sanar. Ese tendón le impedía sostener a Excalibur con las dos manos, que es el requisito que necesitan todos los Saber para usar su Fantasma Noble. Balmung, Clarent Blood Arthur, Excalibur... además en Fate Stay Night (2006), Artoria fue capaz de usar Excalibur como una tres veces aun estando lastimada...
@@FacundoGonzalez-hd8fs de hecho, para que saber pueda usar excalibur Diarmuid tuvo que quebrar su lanza maldita para que se pudiera curar/eliminar la maldición, busca el cap men
@@gamv5850 es lo que dije... Lancer le había cortado un tendón en la mano izquierda de Saber, y como la lanza estaba maldita, no se podía curar. Al no poder usar ambas manos (por el tendón) no podía liberar el ataque. No tiene que ver con la lanza en sí misma sino con la imposibilidad de usar ambas manos.
Facundo Gonzalez Ehmmm de hecho, la excalibur en cualquier versión de tiene una interesante cualidad, “es un arma a dos manos” lo que significa que sin importar la condición de ambos (uno herido y otro sano en su totalidad) la fuerza seguirá siendo la misma por el poder dado, o sea, Proto Arthur en peor condición libero más poder que Artoria quien solo contaba con desgaste físico
@@Mrsarioc Proto Excalibur es rango EX, mientras que Excalibur es de rango A++. No tienen el mismo poder. En Fate Stay Night (2006) Arturia estaba mucho más golpeada y lastimada que Arturo, aun así fue capaz de disparar Excalibur contra Gilgamesh múltiples veces.
"Now, the undefeated king sings aloud the name of the miracle she holds in her hands." Undefeated? She seemed pretty defeated when Mordred fucked her up.
Actually, she defeated Mordred but Mordred even in Near Death state was compelled by Morgan's Programming to Auto Kill Artoria. It was a Stalemate at best.
TheBlaze22b Lol... In Extella, Gilgamesh won without even trying although his final dialogue gives off the impression that Artoria wasn't at her peak performance (like that would help when Gilgamesh nearly decimated Altera despite the fact that he wasn't even trying to kill her in the first place).
cj ogden If Kiritsugu give Avalon to Saber then Irisviel body would break faster due to her nature as vassal of Grail, and Kiritsugu would die when Kirei crush his heart
Apparent the S/N & Zero Gil has a weapon similar to that of Enki anyway, and Enki is not Ea in anyway, its just a conceptual phantasm before the official Gil was released.
btw that was gil's version of ea in proto verse called enki.ea is also another name for enki but enki seems to be weaker.saber defeated proto gil's trump card
course in destruction EA!!!! ; the most powerful weapons Gilgy certainly Wins and clothing is very very very good :D . . .I'm not surprised Saber-man version :v with gensuga tenshou...
Arthur’s Excalibur is canonically planetary level threat buster and obviously it’s hell of a lot more stronger than arturia’s. Just like Arthur is. Their respective performances against Gilgamesh are proof of that. Gil squishes arturia like a bug. Whereas with Arthur it’s actually an on par battle. Hell Arthur ultimately manages to win.
No offence to Arturia fans but Arthur seems stronger. Goddamnit! Arthur and proto Excalibur are too fucking op. The way he vapourised Gil’s tsunami was crazy. Perfect scene.
Weirdly, in the Wiki, Excalibur is described to simply produce a cut which is destructive enough to tear through anything. The light beam is just residual heat produced by the tip of the sword when it's swinged, and it has no meaning. In other words, that giant ass light beam which probably make the mage association have a headache of how to cover it is just a light show for Saber to show off her shiny gold Excalibur!!!
Crystal Gaming As in to download maps? Just go on Osu's website, make an account, and search for any song you like, there will usually be a beatmap for it. It should appear in your beatmap list if you have Osu downloaded.
yes if you play Grand Order you actually find out he was a good friend of Jeanne before she was killed. After her death Giles went mad and became Bluebeard.
Dude,whitout offense,who that girl is ,is basic history ,is Jeanne Of Arc And yeah,but Apocrypha is shit ,so i keep whit how she was portrayed in France Singularity
FSN Excalibur can be used at full power against anyone as long as Altria has the mana for it. Fate/Prototype Excalibur has many restrictions on its and can only be used at full power in very specific circumstances.
@@hell7756 artoria's excalibur has oaths and not seals; with all the oaths released excalibur can reach A++ at most unlike proto excalibur who can reach EX rank with less than half of the seals released.
It kind of is. The thing is that Proto Excalibur has some very specific conditions in order to be as OP as it is. Iirc in one of the Fate Prototype novels, it's said that Arthur needs at least 6 or 7 seals to be released in order to, essentially, save the world. While Artoria doesn't have that caveat. At least as far as I know
@@xavierleondorsch33 nah Artoria's Excalibur also have seals that she need to be release... The conditions for both version are the same except Artoria's condition is that the fight needs to be to defend the human order while Arthur (proto) is to defend the world...
Dont offend Arthur xD..he is taller,handsome and a true gentleman I prefrer this Gil because this fag knows how to fight like a man,instead of being nerfed to the point of being incapable of defeat simple humans in close combat
Ruler is Joan of Arc, who was the person Caster mistook Saber for. Caster is Gilles de Rais, who fought with Jeanne d'Arc in her rebellion and went crazy years after she died. He's an evil Caster in this because he's most remembered for his crazy villain side, but he was originally a knight.
+Sterling Muse Which is why in Fate Grand Order you can also summon him as a Saber (in which he is not crazy... though his last art show that he has already started to fall)
Servants have all of their memories,even if they are summoned being older or younger,like Medea Lily remembering the treason and her hate, Gilles remember all what he has done ,including his degenerate crimes,but in fact,Saber Gilles hate his side of him ,and tell his master to kill him whit a command spell if he falls again, i loved how Jeanne was happy to see him again in France Singularity ,because that dude hate who Bluebeard is and only want to serve Jeanne again,in Apocrypha he was just used like a bad plot resource,good concept,bad realization
This realy good show... but the story always tell's human fight for one thing that not have in this world... but the way it just a anime right.... hope everyone enjoy like im enjoying my own self😆😆😆😆
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