Father of Conservative "Extremism" 

He had a radio tower at his home in Phoenix and facilitated calls from troops in Vietnam to their families

And he would have never taken us off the gold reserve standard.

As a Jewish conservative it's very sad he didn't get elected president. Unfortunately most of my fellow Jews are liberals so whenever a Jew does become president he'll likely be a liberal Democrat, which is a shame. Goldwater is an icon and we'll always love him for his service nevertheless.

Too many Evangelical ,He too moderated on social issue.

@@kevinwhite2889 that’s because racism and discrimination when you’re that logical doesn’t make any sense in fact it didn’t exist in his southern home state of Arizona that he ran...

No. He would have just got the same treatment as ron paul.

I would have loved this to be true, but I doubt, most Americans aren't that big on liberty anymore, at least not to the extent that he would have pushed it.

I would have hoped so

"Barry Goldwater was a major influence on the reemergence of the American Conservative movement during the 1960s as well as having a major impact on the Libertarian movement."

I was sort of thinking the same thing. I suspect that conservative today would be like the religious conservatism that Reagan brought into the party. That is why I heard Reagan made a deal with the devil and ruined the Republican party.

Oh totally. Liberty is a funny word since he was fighting for segregation.

@@BlitzzOrAnt No, He wasn't. He voted for every other piece of Legislation that advanced civil rights. It was his pursuit of liberty and the free market that anguished him to the point of not signing the 64' bill. At least learn your history before you spout utter nonsense.

Man never had a party, that was the problem.

He predicted it

As would Margaret Sanger if she saw what became of Planned Parenthood. She was against abortion.

No he would turn over in his grave if he saw what has become of his country (just like 99% of people at the time).

Goldwater might've distanced himself a bit from the GOP on some social issues, but the idea he'd turn his back on it or even become a Democrat is laughable. The only thing Goldwater is turning in his grave over is the fact Joe Biden stole Arizona scot free, and that his vote probably went to him.

Zach Johnson.

Enrico Enrico - Coolidge was fiscally conservative. He cut spending and paid debt (I believe). Those are libertarian principles.

@@deepseaderro Coolidge was very much an economic libertarian.

Not exactly. It started with Moderate and "Radical" Republicans from 1854-1877 (with Liberal Republicans running against corruption), and after civil service reform became the next big debate you have Half-Breeds (liberals and moderates) and Stalwarts (conservative, but both supported high tariffs), and after the Gilded Age you have Progressive Republicans vs the Old Guard conservatives, and during/after the Great Depression there's the Dewey/Rockefeller Republican "Eastern Establishment" and Conservative Republicans (ie. Taftites), then with the introduction of the Religious Right and Neocons by the late 70s and the extinction of said "Establishment", you've got the Reagan Coalition (fusionism) and the final nail in the coffin for moderate Republicans is in 1994 (to Blue Dog and New Democrats) and 2010 (Tea Party).

@@deepseaderro Of course they weren't strictly libertarians by any stretch, but they leaned in a classical liberal direction.

He cared too much for the particulars of government involvement at the potential expense of black people in America. They would have continued to suffer longer under Jim Crow if Goldwater won and he refused to sign the Civil Rights Act. Just how long would he have postponed it? His motives were highly suspect. The KKK supported him. He claimed to regret opposing it later but of course he'd say that.

@@perrycummins2717 Unfortunately the record doesn't support your opinion. Goldwater stated publicly that he would enforce all Federal Civil Rights laws including the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He was in favor of all but 2 of the 64 Civil Rights Act's Titles. He supported Title 6 which is perhaps the most potent and effective of the Act's 11 titles. Regarding the KKK, Goldwater never solicited them for any endorsement or support. He regarded them as a Democratic organization. What you fail to mention is that Goldwater financed the Phoenix chapter of the Urban League early in that group's history. He also was a member of the NAACP and most-importantly was a founding member of the Arizona Air National Guard: the first integrated military unit in the country. As a Phoenix council member he spearheaded the integration of all city departments included the city owned restaurant at Sky Harbor Airport. He also supported integrating Phoenix public schools. The Goldwater Department stores hired and served African Americans going back to Arizona's territorial days. Now with a record like that.... you really believe Goldwater wanted to prolong segregation?

@@marcparella My initial point still stands. Despite his track record, he cared too much for the particulars of government involvement at the potential expense of black people. Goldwater is a difficult figure to pin down but his hesitancy over a handful of acts is a reminder that politics is mostly just aesthetics for politicians. Even white liberals in the DNC are hypocrites regarding race issues. Wanting to give blacks something but not "too much" as to keep them dependent on them. Goldwater might have been similar to those individuals. His words and actions during his campaign give that impression. Records indicate he was aware that his platform resonated with far-right southern racists and KKK members. This knowledge did not shake or stir him. Make of that what you will. Goldwater seemed to distance himself from what the GOP has become by the end of his life which is strange considering he is believed to have been the starting point for their politics going mainstream 20 years after the fact. Whether or not he truly experienced regret over his past beliefs is besides the point. All I know and care about is that America was right to oppose him in 1964. The country and black people were better off for it.

@@perrycummins2717 You make several assumptions each starting with a contradiction: "Despite his track record, he cared too much for the particulars of government involvement at the potential expense of black people." That is so not true. Goldwater understood two important principles about Civil Rights that few bother to give him credit for defining: "Federal involvement in Civil Rights is limited by the Tenth Amendment" and "Race relations cannot be solved exclusively through government action." Now, again he advocated a Constitutional Amendment giving the Federal government clear authority to move in this direction. He objected to the idea that the Constitution authorized the Federal government to dictate hiring and accommodation practices for small businesses which had no Federal contracts or did business outside of their state. He went as far as getting opinions from several top legal scholars to back up his position. We have a constitutional framework for governing. Goldwater championed this framework and anywhere the Federal government had authority to act on Civil Rights, he voted for it or supported it. He voted for the 1957 and supported the 1960 Civil Rights Acts. How this has translated into racism beats me. You need to study the man's life in more detail to see how that wasn't true. The path to a pluralistic, integrated society free from racism, discrimination and hate involves more than just laws that make us feel good. It involves people themselves seeing the errors of the past and evolving from it.

@@marcparella That's not what the Civil Rights Act does. No business is forced to hire people based on race. They are prohibited from discriminating based on race. Blacks are afforded the right to opportunity to work. Not right to work. America was right to oppose him in 64. The country and black people are better off for it. You are correct that laws alone are not sufficient enough to move on from racism but they also act as a helpful buffer.

He did at first

Goldwater i dont think was very pro Reagen

Alex Ramsan Goldwater represented a type of Authoritarian, in its most dangerous sense, under a veil of extremist conservatism.

Alex Ramsan

@Beth Bartlett Let me guess, you listen to Chapo Trap House, right?

Alex Ramsan If he was so great how come he was against the civil rights bill. He talked freedom but didn't walk it. He used the Constitution to justify him voting against the civil rights bill.

philly guy15 Probably because the Civil Rights Act was one of the worst pieces of legislation ever passed and he was blessed with the immense foresight to see that? If civil rights are so great, then explain to me why James Damore didn't have any when Google fired him for being a classically liberal white male.

@Dirk Ryan the civil rights act should have never been passed without a political beliefs clause It was a liberal (marxist-capitalist) takeover in my opinion

@@elpeopuru3003 Socialism is when the government does stuff.

@@wildfire9280 I literally said it was capitalist. Also, dumb post we already know fascism is when the government does stuff and cops enforce laws.

@@elpeopuru3003 1. Authoritarianism is often conflated with fascism, yes. 2. Enforcing laws = Murderous brutality? 3. What the hell is "marxist-capitalist"? Do you like coining new terms for concepts that are too difficult for you to grasp or are you seriously that ignorant? Oh, wait. You think liberalism = socialism and the Civil Rights Act is marxist because... race mixing is communism I guess. Shouldn't bother asking.

@@wildfire9280 Authoritarianism is when the government does stuff.

Tippersnore You're correct on your point - of Cruz and likely Paul too. HRC - I don't see how she could have managed to pull that off.

I think LBJ used that ad as a smokescreen to defeat Senator Goldwater, and as you pointed out, was (and probably had already planned/was pressured to be) more hawkish, in a non-nuclear war. I don't see much of the gravitas of Goldwater in either Cruz or Rand Paul. Perhaps Ron Paul. But no. Goldwater was a legend of Libertarian politics.

@@bluegregory6239 Libertarian?? No.. just no. Edit: well he was Libertarian at the end of his life so, I redact my statement

OH GOD HE KNEW

Yup.

He only died in 2009. I don't think he was ashamed.

He died in 1998. Sure you're not thinking of someone else?

He would've liked the Tea Party and Donald Trump because they were closer to representing true Americans, imho. The Bush Republicans and neocons, on the other hand, pure disgusting.

he was pro gay rights pro choice and despised relgious nutters like jerry falwell

Doubling the budget and size and scope of government is what Republicans do.

@@atrociousconsequences4432 Republicanism and Conservatism are mutually exclusive terms believe it or not.

I miss the anti-interventionist, small government GOP of old. Nowadays they're globalists just like the Democrats; "Republican in Name Only".

Bob Dylan must of been doped up on methamphetamines (like speed) and marijuana or even cocaine when he wrote that, otherwise makes no sense.

Extremism IS A VICE !! Good thing was beaten in landslide, gave US more years..

Loser believed in principles and honesty ? Don Must be full of it, that is so false !

LBJ is was a rat. Asides from the Civil Rights Act, his policies were trash. For some he will be remembered as the second worst president in the history of US.

The middle class was destroyed by Reagan and his asinine policies. It will take years to fix the damage that A HOLE did.

Well said

REAL

Goldwater would hate warmongering corporatists like the Lincoln project neocons😂 Those are the guys behind all the endless wars and eroding our civil liberties with the spying apparatus.

Lincoln project is literally traitors who are putting into power everything Goldwater stood against.

Those are the exact opposite of each other.

Were his record to be fairly presented and explained, a suspect a lot of people would.

So would I. Country and liberty above party, but with a sense of civility.

@@bluegregory6239 you would vote for segregation? And racial divide? And KKK endorsement? And not Pro-Martin Luther King JR? And white supremacists?

Normally I don't respond to ignorant trolls, but I checked your site and it seems to be mostly basement-boy playing Fortnite at your mommy's house. So, shut the fuck up, read some ACTUAL history, rather than your received opinions from Tik-Tok or wherever you get whatever passes for 'news' in this quasi-illiterate era, and let the grown-ups talk.@@BlitzzOrAnt

@@bluegregory6239 first of all, I dont have tiktok or musically. Second of all, you are that ignorant that you ignore facts and just say that I play fortnite? Do you not know Barry goldwater? Are you trying to change the subject? Litterly his campaign was about segregation. Why are you trying to change the subject? Also, I get my news from trusted news sources. And are you saying that those are wrong? Look up two words, goldwater and segregation. HE LITTERLY SAYS HIMSLEF HE WANTS SEGREGATION.

Actually I think it was McGovern.

+zippgunz I hate Cameron and his buddy Osborne. They are part of the disgusting "new Right" which stands for nothing but platitudes. It's unfortunate but there will never be another Thatcher in Britain ever, the wets stabbed her in the back...

+john26razor Thatcher was too realistic, hence why we will never get a Thatcher again.

Gross American ! Truly Delusional ! Scumbags like you must HATE real America !!

So segregation and white supremacists is Patriotic?

Barry Goldwater would have started WW3 !!! Everybody you know would be dead or never have been born, his vile evil extremism would have killed the world !!!

Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell are the best president US never had.

He was a segregationist...

Thank LBJ for Vietnam

We live in the wrong timeline honestly, the way I see it, the GOP was supposed to STAY progressive, and slowly incorporate more liberal elements! I honestly feel like the consequences of the Wilson, Nixon and Trump administration really just changed the GOP party for the worst… Same for Goldwater’s campaign… Reagan did too, though he’s much better than those three horrible presidents… They’re really shouldn’t have been a switch of party beliefs… The Rockefeller Republicans, the last of the progressives were all slowly wiped out of office by conservatives… A lot switched parties… And nowadays most “Rockefellar Republican” like candidates are Democrats now…

Vince Gilbert Anything is extreme when it is taken to a level of obsessive -

So segregation is better?

@@BlitzzOrAnt segregation was enforced by the government and was clearly unconstitutional and a violation of freedom of association, just as forced integration is a violation of freedom of association. The Civil Rights Act was an abuse of power. Senator Goldwater voted for previous civil rights acts, just not the one that Johnson forced on the people for political purposes.

@@dylanwilliams121 so your saying that segregation is better then what he have now? And if we had segregation we wouldn't have abuse of power?

@@BlitzzOrAnt I think force is wrong no matter what. Forced segregation is wrong. Forcing people to be together is equally wrong. The largest opponents to forced integration were African-American parents whose children were forcibly bused to predominantly white government schools.

Go Goldwater, go.

Supporting two civil rights acts is derailment? (57, and 60)

Are you stupid. He was not. He was destroying the new deal. He is extreme and bring capitalism to the extreme

He wasn't racist though He was actually very progressive on race issues

Lmao far-right fascist comment, go to hell

@Marc Parella Lolno. Ron Paul was the real deal, Huntsman just sounded like another seasonal politician to me like Hungry Kasich or that Yang guy. =/

Goldwater was a deprived maniac, thank goodness didn't get to destroy America.

How

Goldwater is nothing like Mr. Trump. Goldwater's very bland. he's politically inflexible. he's like lying ted that way. Mr. Trump has a strong personality & funny & plays the media like a puppet-master. he's a strategic genius & plays the long game.

Not the personality, but the substance. Goldwater ran on a platform of states rights for segregation. A lot of people saw that as racist. Trump is running on building a wall, deporting and banning Muslims and a lot of people see that as racist. The last two party nominees for Presidential who were viewed as racist were Goldwater and Trump. Both from the Republican Party.

False. The last party nominee who was viewed as a racist was Romney and McCain before him. The left paints everyone running on the republican platform as a racist. In reality the racists are the democrats. That's why they project racism so much.

Romney and McCain never said anything derogatory of any race and had no policies based on race. The last two candidates that have outlined policies on race and ran on that platform are Goldwater and Trump. Might as well say Obama, Bill Clinton, Kerry and Gore were communists because the Republicans said so. I have never voted Democrat in a Presidential election and don't plan to start now as Hillary is a disaster, but I can also see the flaws in Trump. You can't go by what the other party says as fact.

Goldwater did not have a policy position based on race whatsoever. He believed in the constituion's statement of protection of property, which including the right to not serve anyone at the owner's discretion. He integrated his store in Arizona before Brown vs. and advocated for integration in Phoenix in the 50s. He was for integration in public spaces, just not private ones. He certainly didn't support segregation as he felt it was wrong. Honestly the biggest racist politician I have seen is in the white house right now. To insinuate that Trump or Goldwater are more racist than Obama is laughable to me.

Easy to be tough when you have moral principles and strong convictions . . .

@@calebwilson4854 Yes President O'bama did have moral principles and strong convictions .. Goldwater is now roasting in Hell where he belongs .. His dark Soul is now in complete hell of misery

@@FreedomFighter-cr5xg Obama's "principles and morals" must have failed him when he abandoned our ambassador and soldiers in Benghazi.

​@@calebwilson4854 ..Dear Princess .. Of course you stoop to lies ..your stench equals that of impeached Communist lover , Constitution hater,draft dodger ,crook , pervert Trump

@@FreedomFighter-cr5xg What did I say that was a lie?

Looks like he gave birth to the idea and Nixon implemented it. Maybe he didn't realize it ether

+OverLordthe 1st I always cite Goldwater as the main evidence for the GOP's usage of extremism to attract southerners, when they keep on denying it.

+Kevalry Yup it'd effects are far and deep

WTF. There was no Southern Strategy. Blacks started to vote Democrats in thirties and white southers started to vote GOP in eighties. Jimmy Carter won South in 1976 and get a lot of votes in 1980.

Ya Keep telling yourself that. Republicans are strong defenders of the Electoral College. There is a reason why the South shifted to voting mostly Republican after 1964.