Fatima Payman's dual citizenship controversy rocks Australian politics 

The Taliban were originally created & armed by the USA. Are you ignorant of history?

@@BarbarraBay Does not excuse the Taliban's ideology. Not a very clever deflection.

@@robertfitchett-o6n Taliban is a Western ideology. Taliban was created by the West and its Allies.

Are you saying Israel has not perpetrated on women? Did you miss the two Christian women shot in cold blood outside of a Christian church in Gaza?

@@BarbarraBay Your still deflecting from what was originally said by Cristina6537.

Agreed. It is shameful that Political Parties can decide to have a private agreement, outside the law, to ignore a breach of the constitution.

@@frednerk3477 She is legally entitled to stay in the senate. End of story.

Hear Hear

it's impossible for her to renounce it since the Taliban has been in power

She’s the one telling liars, you always tell the truth. I reckon next election she’ll be voted out

A wolf in sheeps clothing.

Correct,lets see if the spineless Government does anything about it.

That’s bullshit most of our politicians are dual citizens , you would be very surprised how many of them are dual citizens.

​@@colinmeehan791bit she said she never claim afghan citizenship. Then how she became a dual citizenship

@@None-selfshe does have Afghan citizenship…she has said herself that she tried to denounce her citizenship of Afghanistan but couldn’t due to the taliban .

@@tinaahern252 not necessarily she had to posses. As it is a regular process to acquire Australian citizenship when you did not born here.

Are you saying the ALP are Jewish and acting in Jewish interests?

Well BabsWarnie, the fact she is leaving Lbr is a pretty strong indication of that 🤣

The issue of Palestine is not one of religion. It is a question of International Law and Order and just sheer fkn humanity. What is Oz worth if we dont stand for something as fundamental as this? Are we just stooges for zionism?

@@BarbarraBayCan you read? Can you think first yourself? No to both.

Look at what they have done by letting them into politics in the US 😡

Wrong.

@@KenDyer-wl4lf maybe it should have read “those who have dual citizenship and adhere closer to the non Australian citizenship needs and values” should not be in Australian politics or paid by the Australian tax payer.

@@juliestannard5538 In May 2018, the High Court heard a series of cases together. These cases became known as the “Citizenship Seven” case. In Re Canavan; Re Ludlam; Re Waters; Re Roberts [No 2]; Re Joyce; Re Nash; Re Xenophon (the “Citizenship Seven” case), the High Court unanimously held that “reasonable steps” must be taken when renouncing citizenship to gain exemption from Section 44(i). The judges were unanimous in their decision, declaring Australian citizens should not be prevented from participating in representative government . “where it can be demonstrated that [they] took all steps reasonably required by foreign law to renounce his or her citizenship of a foreign power” Exactly what this requires however depends on the circumstances of each particular case and it will also depend on the law of the relevant foreign country. In Payman's case, she took all reasonable steps to renounce her Afghan citizenship as per the High Court's ruling.

@@KenDyer-wl4lf thanks Ken, you’ve gone out of your way to open my eyes and educate me and I honestly appreciate that. You’ve also conducted yourself in a very professional manner. She has however made it painfully clear that her loyalties lie where Islamic loyalties lie. Her headwear is not a religious requirement but a political statement that she abides by sharia law which overrides Australian law. She has made statements in Parliament-“from the river to the sea” which is on par with the word n-+++r, f@€€t, re^£_d but calling for the genocide not of these individuals but of Jews. She should not be in Australian government

@@juliestannard5538 Disagree, as Mehreen Faruqi did on Insiders this morning. It is about time Albanese, and Dutton for that matter came clean about the Gaza genocide, and instead of bleating about a two state solution, and doing nothing. As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 145 of the 193 member states of the United Nations. It has been a non-member observer state of the United Nations General Assembly since November 2012. Australia does not recognise Palestine as a separate state, and until they do, any talk of a "two state" solution is pure hypocrisy. Albanese and Wong need to get their act together, instead of kowtowing to the Israel lobby. Payman is an Australian citizen, full stop. While we are on the subject of religious influences in politics, perhaps you might like to consider why the Christian Lords Prayer is recited in the Senate before each sitting. I would also add that if Payman is alledged to abide by sharia law, why then did she leave Afghanistan, where that is practiced? In other words, it is nonsense. If you are really worried about Islam, I also remind you that there are over 300 million muslims living about 300kms to the North of Australia.

Fatima Payman has made FOOL of not only but all Aussies 🦘🦘🦘

Now please quit now payman

Exactly 💯

She was elected by Australians, how could she be in Parliament illegally?

@@kimduong2332she was a LIAR !! Hiding her true dual citizenship status !!

Apparently Afghanistan isn’t important, only Israel.

@@littlecatfeet9064 You can;t go back to Afghanistan. The West well and truly stuffed up Afghanistan. I mean the USA actively supported the Taliban which was truly shameful.

@@michealkazamias2066 hmm do you really think respectfully they might want that. Peace Out✌🏿

Yes, she is already Australian citizen and should be defends Australia not Palestine and she is not living in Gaza and I think she like to be acting like a hero for Palestinian,, I don' t really like her, and she should go back to Afghanistan .

@@annajeffries6656 Definitely. And she should resign from the Senate so they can elect someone who represents Western Australia, not Gaza.

100 %

Absolutely correct. Every culture that came to Australia had beef with another culture but Muslims are the only culture to drag that crap to our peaceful shores .

Right

If you let them in you're asking for trouble. France is already at the edge of civil war as is the UK

Just look at the UK same thing happened there now it’s not British anymore you can play spot the pommie outside The Palace and even in the Kings guard not many there either

It was checked in the beginning, and it was deemed to be a non-issue because she had taken all available steps to renounce her Afghan citizenship, this is and was publicly available information at the time she was elected. The public has a 40 day period at each election cycle to raise legal challenges regarding citizenship (which, again, is public) and then after that 40 day period any challenges to eligibility must come from Parliament. After the 2017 crisis, parties have by convention not challenged each other's candidates on the basis of citizenship provided the candidate has taken all reasonable measures to renounce. There's a constitutional laywer with a channel called The Constitutional Clarion that explains these circumstances in detail. This is only now being cooked up into a media storm because Senator Payman has left the Labor party, and they want to prevent her from further using her position to speak out against the genocide being perpetrated in Gaza.

@@MenaceGallagher No, it's not Gaza and Israel. As passionate as you and Senator Payman may be about that, truth is that's a millennia old fight overseas, that has SFA to do with us here. It's much more about internal number games in Canberra. Payman received less than 1700 direct votes herself. She was put in as a Labor Candidate, and is ONLY there because of Labor and their silly diversity game playing. She knew their policies about crossing the floor, and their stance on Israel/Gaza when she signed up and swore an oath. Given there is an informal agreement between the parties not to challenge each other's candidates based on duel citizenship, and she is now an Independent, she no longer automatically enjoys that 'informal protection'. There is no standing agreement with her. So she very much is open to being challenged based on her duel citizenship issues, by one of the current political parties. If she's ousted due to that, the next Labor candidate will replace her. So it's unlikely the coalition will challenge. From their perspective... a pain in the butt for Labor is better than another Labor senator. Will Labor challenge her now? Hmm, they shoot themselves in the foot if they do, because THEY endorsed her in the first place. Given that the Greens voting block typically back Labor in most big issues in the Senate as it is....they'll likely have her vote on most issues anyway. So they may well just sook about it, but not challenge her. One Nation be the dark horse here.... what is Pauline and co thinking. If a vote among the public were taken.....Payman may well find her disingenuous, ungrateful, parasite activist self on a plane back to Afghanistan for a life lesson in reality.

@@MenaceGallagher Yes, and I'm sure the public was made fully aware of her dual citizenship when she was running for office and knew they could object withing 40 days. Or perhaps they just trusted the government to be honest. What a joke. Should have to be born in a country to run for Parliament.

@@akasug4136 I agree

@@MenaceGallagher So, in other words, the Parties agreed to ignore the law. Shame on them!

She says that she and her family escaped the Taliban (Muslim terrorists) now she supports Hamas (Muslim terrorists). Muslims against Muslims. Although I hate war and anything to do with it, everyone seems to forget the atrocities of Oct 7th and the hostages (if there are any still alive) being kept in Gaza.

In the USA, you have be born in the USA and be a citizen.

@@cherrysimon Not correct. The President and Vice President must be natural born. The House of Representatives and the Senate have other separate rules i.e. age, length of time in the USA, time residing in a state etc. however, migrants can be members in both houses, providing they meet the requirements.

@@skeezer180 Well.done and make sure others understand the lucky situation they are in....

They get a education and bite the hand that feeds them

lol

She already tried to renounce her Afghan nationality.

if loyalties are to Australia, why is this issue a big deal due to the ALP's & LNP's loyalties to Israel?

Albo wanted to appease thought he is a saint giving space .... Not realising a snake is a snake every where... There is enough history and evidence... people should be aware when they vote

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@@diggerduckaussie6834 excellent 👌👍👍

Albo is to blame. He tells liars himself. I have friends in WA so they say she’s no good.

Taliban runs Afghanistan, she is Taliban, thats a foot in the australia door , they will not release her from Afghanistan. Ban her , no daul citizenship, section 44 in commonwealth law. Boom

What does this comment supposed to mean? The term 'Jewish' refers to a religion.

​@@BarbarraBay oh I see, you don't understand.

@@ML6103 Do you think Jewish is a race and the creation of Israel has no relationship to religion?

Isn't "God" mentioned in the Australian Constitution?

How their a lot of RABBIS , So how anyway ??

It's *_not_* a religion.

If going against G 3nocide is representing Islam then Alhamdulillah we’re so proud to be a Muslim

⁠@@halalpolice23it was Hamas that attacked Israel first…why does she not speak of that!!!

@@halalpolice23 in that case why did you collaborate with the NAZI's in the Genocide of the Jews??

@@tinaahern252 she has never even mentioned it - apparently Fudd & Co. did not find her clarion silence re. this unspeakable atrocity ... an 'issue'

Australia has obligations it agreed to under the Genocide Convention. Payman is correct and the ALP are wrong.

Also, she already tried to renounce her Afghan nationality.

@@bayhuda-hu8gx yes she tried…but still hasn’t done it. She said she had no communication after she tried….so no she still has dual citizenship.

Good Bye

She represent my interests just fine. I want this Palestine thing to be TOP priority, and our pollies to grow some fuckin balls.

I say we vote on that one :)

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@@markhill3858 You do not have to she is legally entitled to sit in the senate.

Tony Abbott had dual citizenship. Did you ask him to leave Australia.

Why? Tiny Abbott was born in London. King Charles rules Australia​@@qaharwahab7036

He wasn’t a threat to the country, like she can be

@@LDP-33 Why? Because she talked about genocide or she said killing of thousands of innocent children is a crime. Are we human to watch all these crimes and keep quiet.Over 38000 people 70% of them women and children been killed.......?

@@qaharwahab7036 no because she’s a hypocrite! Why didn’t she stay in Afghanistan and fight for the welfare of the women n children under Taliban. Why does she need to come to Australia to fight for people in Gaza.

She tried to renounce her Afghan citizenship but could not do it due to the Taliban government.

Proves Labor are Hypocrites.... like we already didn't know. Geezz..... I'm SO voting One Nation with a big black Texta!!!!

​@amraceway then she doesn't qualify, just as previous candidates didn't qualify. Our CONSTITUTION clearly states NO OTHER CITIZENSHIP. She has also made it clear she's using her position, as a Representative of Western Australians to push the cause for another country.

She already tried to renounce her Afghan nationality.

@@bayhuda-hu8gx ???????TRIED HA HA, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. ONCE A MUSLIM ALWAYS A MUSLIM.

Thinking ALP should have done that at the last election, and then we would not be going through all this shit.

@@gerrybreugem2496 Against free speech are we? People are only allowed to say what you agree with? Might be best if you packed up and moved to Russia.

Why deport exactly?

Here so many Hazara in Jakarta, and they want to go to Australia

People seem to have forgotten that. Remember Jackie Lambie had to go, and Nick Xenophon

She is from peacefuls so she gets everything out of the law so as to appease the world's worst victim card players

@@jenniferpierno6108 You do not understand the law. You also seem to hate free speech which is a bit of a worry.

she problaly is a taliban cell

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The Taliban were not in power when they migrated

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Check your spelling - its HamARSE

Its all for when it suits them.

ALBO

She tried to but …. TALIBAN!

Labor! They acknowledged she had taken all reasonable steps. Labour were fine with it until she quit now they’re making a thing of it. - that’s the real issue and concern here! Also and his henchmen are as deceitful as The Coalition. Time to ban party politics.

Tony Abbott ( former prime minister) got dual citizenship.

Good question, and one, which, I don't think, our dumb poletetions, will answer! It's a joke on a grand scale!

Hamas started as an Israel proxy. regardless of this Hamas have rights of resistance under the Geneva Convention because Israel is an Occupying Power. You are totally mixed up

@@BarbarraBay Wrong

@@BarbarraBay Proxy this proxy that, the will to be a jihadi has to be there in the first place. They don't just sprig out of cash.

@@leonfink3567 not wrong. Therefore you are wrong. Israel has no right of self-defence in respect to Gaza as the ICJ ruled in 2004's Wall Case.

@@BarbarraBay wrong. you need to do your own research rather than believing a terrorist group.

Parties that knowingly put up duel citizens should be disqualified. All of them.

@@memine3704 Absolutely - Katie Gallagher's claim she would resign if she was in Payman's position is next level hypocrisy given Gallagher was also in contravention of section 44 as a dual British citizen.

They all knew.charge them for breaking the law

Yes she crossed the floor and exposed the labor party's corruption.

The Rohingya people fled from Bangladesh because of attacks by other Islamic sects. They fled to Myanmar and set up their communities there. However they then started demanding that Myanmar give a portion of the land to them so that they could have their own nation. Myanmar, quite rightly, would not agree to having their kindness and hospitality treated in such a way and violence erupted between them.

@@frednerk3477 Thanks for the feedback and history.

Simply because those arab supporter think the jew is an easy enemy. But it turns out that the jew become their dad now😅

Good call! She needs medical assistance, or a rude awakening, by being sent back to the Teleban in Afghanistan.

Bingo. They are not migrating, they are infiltrating.

she came here at age 7 buddy settle down

@@hustler-music so you say it was a mistake to let her in?

@@karlscher5170 no?

@@hustler-music so you like mysoginic stone age faskism?

yep Islam 1st

Her father escaped lunatic’s that abused power;that is not a reason to ditch your love for your homeland and religion

​@@melmahic2594 and she's supporting another bunch of lunatics now...funny

@@melmahic2594 seems like a great reason to ditch a love of homeland. If your homeland has been stuck in the dark ages for centuries and refuses to move out, maybe your homeland is shit?

When they left Afghanistan the Taliban were no longer in power

@@keithdrower9120 I totally agree , go and live your mates!

@@VinceAbbott-n7w She is standing up for free speech.

@@amraceway free speech doesnt exist in islam

she should be helping Afghanistan causes... why Palestine? truth be told ...only because of Israel. You don't see much media attention for Afghanistan.

@@spitlim She is but the West has moved on from its disastrous intervention in Afghanistan so it doesn't want to know what is going on there now. She is opposed to the industrial slaughter of innocent people in Gaza as any human should be. That Australia is supporting the undemocratic state of Israel in its horrific actions is truly shameful.

You should read her maiden speech!!! quote" I begin with the universal Islamic greeting of Assalaamu Alaykum" She ends her speech saying a poem In the Dari language "Bani Adam" by Saadi Shiraz....If this wasn't a red flag I don't know what is!!!!

The "Q ran " Tells them it's Ok to lie to Anybody about Anything, if it benefits the cause of Islam True Fact so that's how !

almost like there are muslims in Australia who want and deserve democratic representation just like Christians, jews and all other religions? The parliamentary pledge literally ends in 'so help me god', yet you only raise an issue when it's a muslim god, how interesting! I say all of this as an atheist too.

@@hustler-music: The difference between Muslims and Christians-Jews is that Islam does NOT have any separation between Allah and the government. Muslims pledge on the Qur'an to serve their Allah above the government. The Islamic _concept_ of Allah is also very different to the God of Christianity-Judaism. Muslims will use our democratic system to be elected to power and then they will slowly subjugate the system to conform to their theocratic rules which includes no freedom of speech, no freedom of conscience, etc.

@@hustler-music: Islam does NOT have any separation between Allah and government. Muslims pledge to serve their Allah first, and above all. The Islamic _concept_ of Allah-God is also very different to the God of Christianity-Judaism. Muslims will use our democratic system to be elected to power. Then they will slowly use the system to implement their theocratic rules.

Then why Labour Aiding Palestine genocide?

@@None-self there is no genocide going on in Palestine - you're confusing a war of self-defence, with the Jihadist-Genocide going on in Nigeria ... against Christians

@@peterward9446 You are an occupier can not determine what is a self defense and what is not.....

palestines are ocuppier on Jews land . Jordan not letting anyone dig under Al asqa mosque ​so the truth won't be known about the Jews ancient . palestineis a region not a country it was given to them not their . palestine is aparthied region @None-self

@@None-self *_bullshit_* - the dual legal basis of the right of self-defence is recognized & acknowledged under Article 51 of the UN Charter ... *_AND_* customary international law - which is indirectly referred to in that provision by use of the term *_‘inherent’_* in relation to the nature of the right of self-defence ... don;t come in here & simply parrot what the Imam's in the local masjid are waffling...

Have you missed the deep love for Israel? A government with $1.2 trillion in debt will love Israel

you mean z!onest interest...

@@reomai9576 Sorry Abdullah

Good one!

@jarrad, I agree. Well said!

@@akasug4136 So you don't like people expressing an opinion that you disagree with? Move to Russia.

SPOT ON

@@ItIt30 Australia Ally America handed over Afghanistan to Taliban again. Why Peyman needed to be thankful for that

@@ivanf6938 How Bizarre when the Liberal Government let her in the Country and then it takes her 14 years to attempt to have her citizenship evoke in her country of birth .

No wonder Albo got narky, she exposed them all. Mark Dreyfus - what a piece of work he is in this cover-up 🐍

Exactly

😂 She didn't say anything against Australia. She simply denounced genocide. Come on, what's wrong with you people? Imagine some people beating an animal while everyone watches. Suddenly, someone says, 'You don't beat that animal,' and then everyone turns against them, accusing them of not reflecting the interests of mankind.

​@@jackyoung9691she didn't have to. People aren't stupid

@@Nathan-ry3yu what do you mean people are not stupid?

@jackyoung9691. Nothing wrong with us people thanks for asking. Read your Bible, Jeremiah 5:21

She is legally entitled to stay in parliament. Long live free speech.

Who voted for her?

@@2livenoob Your mum

Do you understand she opposes a GCide as a diplomatic representative of Australia which is exacly what she is paid and trusted to do.

@@bobburns7277 where was she when Oct 7 happened... she can do great service by staying in gaza and question hammmas or in Afghanistan and question talibaann so press can go interview her

go vote for Pauline hanson then.

@@ravs4461 I think she is milking this for popularity and reelection, that's my conclusion. First she supportecd arms sales to Irahellis and now shes against it. All Policticians are liars

Well;it is our problem;we supported NATO’S illegal invasion on Afghanistan and now we have to deal with a consequences

if this is not our problem why is Israel our problem?

​@BarbarraBay because your politicians are being paid by AIJAC?

@@melmahic2594 Who is we.

@@BarbarraBay Its not either

With our HARD EARNED M9NEY

How accurate a statement!

All adult citizens should have the vote, but you should have been born here to run.

I come from an immigrant family and even served in the ADF for 13 years. I can't imagine my parents not having the right to vote here. They are loyal citizens. I don't agree.

Good one!!!

Totally agree!

I like the names. Like Shashi Tharoor 😅

Right . To her religion and ummah comes first . Pathetic .

Like a B grade version of a Star Wars movie....

You brought Hamas into Australia.

The assumption that those who stand against a genocide are part of a terrorist organisation is a completely ridiculous proposal, one which only serves to deepen the cultural divides right wing individuals seem to so dislike.

​@@Whatsup2today When IDF's genocide supporter is in Labour party, then why Not A palestine supporter

Revoke her visa and ddeport

Yeah! They should do that in America also

It was changed about 6 years ago. You haven’t been paying attention.

What area was she elected in ?

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Israel took 10000 palestinians in prison for decades😂

No muslims care about the hostages . They support hammas,Gaza,palestine act on the 7th October and celebrating it

​@None-self there is a difference between being held hostage and being a prisoner

If she mentioned hostages, then she is exposing her handlers’ crimes, she is possibly parroting an agenda given to her by her handlers