Feature History - Russo-Georgian War 

Ur the most underrated youtuber dud

Very slanted and biased maybe you should call it history according to NATO or my NGO boss George Soros. You will lose all credibility with these hit pieces masquerading as history lessons.

You forgot to pronounce the K in Abkhazia & Abkhazians

Dislike . This is not just a biased video, this is a total western propaganda. Not a single mention of Russian peacekeepers who were there on the basis of a UN order(with blue helmets and vests), which Georgian troops began to bomb at night of the Olympics starts(Georgian army attack first). i.imgur.com/WC1VuW4.jpg i.imgur.com/T8aREb9.jpg Not a single mention about tons of NATO equipment at the Georgian troops, like Humvees and M4(in post-Soviet country) i.imgur.com/mX52aYN.jpg i.imgur.com/8BWoVoh.jpg Just "EVIL RUSSIANS" bomb South Ossetia, because russians without a reason wanted start a war.

@@alexlmerk3611 you are blinded by Russian propaganda. Russia was holding its tank divisons near the Roki tunnel since 2006 to attack. Georgia wants to move away from Russian influence, and Russia is trying everything in its power to cripple this advance. By the way, those "peacekeepers" were arming Ossetian paramilities with heavy equipment they used to shell Georgian villages. This is a good video.

Only took about half a year before the next one when this was released, and a little under 1.5 years for the one after that. This decade is truly blessed. It's just a gift that keeps on giving.

“for the moment” safe to say that moment has passed

@@flopsinator5817 what's the first war you're implying happened? Only other 21st Century conventional war in Europe is the current Ukrainian war iirc

@@christopherrodriguez653 The Nagorno Karabakh war. I'm surprised how many people forgot already.

@@flopsinator5817 DAMN, yeah you're right. Perhaps due to it being so short, it didn't feel like it lasted more than a week or two before the armenians were on the backfoot badly.

Yes actually, and if I remember they goofed up on maps

The ghosts were actually russian

Still have it downloaded on steam . Great game. Not like the shit they put out now.

@@Norcaljourneyman I miss the command function, man. You can wipe out entire map with only your squad.

Tom Clancy games and his novels had a habit of predicting future events.

You're kidding, right?

Gilgamesh r/wooooosh

@@TDenterpriser Ever heard of a question being put to make a point?

That are just 'Stalin' for time tough

Asebele Keto ayeeeeeee

I think most people that know another Georgia exists are you Georgians in the US

I remember when we got forcefully immigrated to adjara

@@cortex8239 wtf?

@@smuz5391 ?

this comment sums up the US education system pretty well

Orthodox Georgia forgives, but don't forget. RU

Imagine being an Ossetian boy and being told that Georgians have started shelling Tskhinvali. Must’ve been pretty scary, too

When I was a little boy there was a Caucasus minority family living in my neighborhood in Russia. Legit no one wanted to be friends with them and I felt sorry so I became friends with his family. Great people.

@@TitovIgorBro fairy tales are no longer scary for kids.

@@kartvelianmapping808 especially when the russians surprise attack just after a swift georgian takeover

Interesting, because in Greek Mythology Georgia/Armenia is where Jason and his Argonauts find the Golden Fleece

@@tspoon772 Yes. It was in the kingdom of Tylis, in the shores of Georgia

@@tspoon772 how bright of you to point that out

@@rubenvo3627 shut up

@@tspoon772 indeed the name of the operation was a reference to the argonauts and their journey to black sea, in general Greek conservatives have the tendency to use references to the ancient Greek history/mythology 😉 note that the head of the military part of the operation captain Ntertilis was the son of colonel Ntertilis who had shot to death an innocent bystander during the anti junta riots in 1973 , so in a way ( navy ) captain Ntertilis hoped that he could redeem his family name by organising such a daring operation Plus the Greeks of black sea believed on a legend that one day " a cretan " will come with a ship to take them to motherland.. By coincidence the civilian head of the operation that Ntertilis was answering to ,was from crete.. and relative to the current prime minister of Greece 😁

Its the exact same tactic, but this time the world actually cares

@@Rguhbuh and still does nothing

@@phlyphan1083 And will forget in a couple of years. And then Putin will attack yet another country. And the west will say, "Putin wouldn't dare attack civilians". And then Putin will bomb hospitals and kindergartens to oblivion. And then the west will be shocked, saying "nobody could have predict this. Now we know what Putin is capable of." And then the country succumbs. And then the west will forget in a couple of years.

@@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 Nah man chill,nothing is going to happen.In ukraine Putin is getting his ass kicked but even if he makes it capturing Ukraine from now and on he will become weaker and weaker all the time.Russian economy will colapse in no more than one year,if the war in Ukraine will go for a long time which I think that unfortunately it will Putin's army will need to much time to recover and reorganize. War in ukraine will go in guerrilla tactics and the Russian army will lose its patient. Also this conflict in Ukraine has revealed the real face of Russia once again,the real face of Russia that has always in its doctrine to invade and conquer smaller countries. The west was closing one eye all this years and thought that maybe the Russian doctrine would change time by time and slowly become friendly toward the west. Well that didn't happen the west aloud them in smaller conflicts but the recent one in Ukraine woke them up. It depends on how things will go in Ukraine but after the recent even it will take at least 20 years for Russia to reestablish ralation with the west. My bet is that the Russian doctrine will never change,they will always live in the past,will always dream of making the great empire again,anachronistic mentality. Is no coincidence that another country Serbia in the Balkans has the same doctrine with Russia and there is no coincidence that they are allies.

@@phlyphan1083 probably because they are busting US. strongholds and shouldnt have broken the minsk agreements. Little man keeps crying while no jet with an ukrainian flag flys anymore hahaha, sadclowns

You'd only need to look at the Balkans to know about "old" accounts.

So the Balkans will remain fucked up until a time-traveler goes back in time and Industrialized the Roman Republic under Julius Caesar? (50 BC) The Balkan areas would be stable and prosperous under a technologically advanced Rome Islam and Christianity would not exist to turn Eastern Europe and the Middle-East into shitholes

That was ironic af. Also, georgian airforce is no more.

Stalking Horse And it results in several friendly fire incident which causes losses of su-25

@@nikirki25 we still have an air-force durring the 2008 war we only lost 3 trainer aircraft most of our air force survived .russia lost more planes

The Su-25 is built in many countries including Georgia and the Russians didn't bomb the factory they bombed the airfield next to it.

Sababugs112 source?

I did a double take at that Good old Georgia Lucas

CIS > CIS

Roger roger!

@Zachary Durocher in star wars there's a faction called the CIS (Confederacy of independent systems)

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KXzIelt75e0.html&ab_channel=LordDaine

The first correction is always welcome. It's the people that post it again that are "that guy"

@@FeatureHistory Also couldn't believe the first Ghost Recon game back in 2001 predicted this war.

@@FeatureHistory just in case you didn't know it’s south Oh-seh-tii-ah, not oh-see-sha.

@@FeatureHistorywhy you didn't tell anything about bombing Tshinvali by Georgia in first day of war?

@@bananan7 because he said truth. And this is fact!

cringe

Out of curiosity, Do you personally believe the Kremlin actually supports Abkhazian and South Ossetian long term independence? if not then what is it you think the Kremlin actually expects to gain here...

@@1882osr It is largely unclear. Russia officially supports South Ossetia's and Abkhazia's independence and so far has given me no reason to believe otherwise, it'd be a real stretch to say that Russia supports their independence unconditionally though. Arguably Russia controls them now with their independence more as a formality than anything else. This is more due to their size, in terms of geography, economy, and military or more accurately lack there of. Given those territories lack of those things their independence is largely dependent on Russia's support, while their economy may or may not require subsidizing their ability to remain independent from Georgia again solely relies on Russia, since no other country in the world I'm aware of at present is willing or capable of doing this. Russia keeping those two officially independent does a couple of things though nothing spectacular. It allows Russia the ability to say that they didn't go to war for the simple sake of territorial gain, which for all intents and purposes is true. Since they didn't officially annex those territories, and the 'civil war' that was going on with Georgia was constantly trading crimes, and hatred between the two Russia's intervention and creating a defacto independent states creates a 'enforced' peace of sorts allowing a more secure border, which allows Russia to keep a rather rough and unstable region of the world and it's territory secure, and let's face it, those areas in Russia, Georgia, and surrounding nations, are NOT for the faint of heart. Plus keeping the two independent allows for some flexibility of options in the future, those territories could be returned to Georgia for example, or they can be annexed at a later time if deemed necessary or if those territories ask for it. Another such benefit allows Russia to comfortably keep Georgia out of NATO as keeping those territories independent allows for real or perceived ability for Georgia to peacefully regain those territories thereby keeping it in a constant state of 'territorial conflict'. But with Russia in control it allows Russia to control more the when and how it happens if it ever happens. Since Russia and NATO don't appear to be settling their differences anytime soon, with the US's desire to remain the sole superpower which requires their domination over Russia, and Russia's pride to not allow that to happen, and their ever increasing paranoia that the US is seeking their destruction, and desire to 'break out' of their confinement and interact with the world in a way they feel they're being unjustly inhibited. All arguments of right or wrong aside as I don't take any arguments of morality when it comes to Geopolitics seriously. Russia can and for now does seem to support those territories independence, long term independence is a questionable concept given that that support will change when the reality, and balance of power in the world changes. But for sake of argument let's ignore the idea of a potential reality or balance of power change, and just pretend this current set up is going to continue perpetually. With that being the case I would bet 'Yes' Russia does support South Ossetia's and Abkhazia's long term independence but more because it's prudent in the world's current set up and gives them the desired benefits of keeping NATO at bay in the area rather than for simple moral sake. But in the end it is possible that Russia could do it for simple morals sake, unlikely, but still possible.

​@@Shadoweye12 My god, a well articulated, thought through response that looks at the material factors involved rather than the emotive cases of either side... Miracles do happen! I must say though I do find it strange seeing your incredibly balanced approach to the motivations behind Kremlin policies a bit jarring alongside that slightly wonky first comment. I'm not disputing the claims you made originally, just it's interesting how you chose to mention the Georgian bombardment of the respective regions and yet didn't mention the Ossetian bombardments which made up the tit for tat which brought down the peace keeping forces and first ceasefire. Fundamentally I agree with your reply, it's why elsewhere on this thread I compared the current Kremlin approach to their neighbours as akin to the US's 'Monroe Doctrine' period. However, it's no surprise that I disagree with whether those policies are justified. You seem far more knowledgeable on this topic though and so I'm curious if you have any theories on why it is that so far the Kremlin has rebuffed attempts at integration from Ossetia. Does it come down to 'keeping up appearances' as you suggest? Is there an element of avoiding becoming tied down or 'spreading too thin' a Russian army that is operating in multiple theatres already? Or is it perhaps something else?

@@1882osr Glad my reply is so well recieved, given this is youtube, which isn't all that different than facebook when it comes to vitriolic and toxic comment sections, it's nice to see someone who enjoys 'balance' in perspective at least as much as I do. I'm not an 'expert' if you will, though I do pride myself in being more insightful and analytical than most. Which is why I enjoy balanced and objective, and a variety of views on things because they often provide insight into things and in ways that I alone could not find. And while I agree that my first comment was rather 'one sided' it was more in response to the video that presented whether intentionally or unintentionally the idea that Russia sending in troops to 'repair railroads' but violated Georgian sovereignty (that was more or less implied), was at the very least inaccurate. And the simplification of Georgia's response to 'Georgia disagreed' more or less inspired my response to take a rather oppositional position. Not in an attempt to 'pick a side' as it were, but simply to expand details where details mattered, and push back against the notion that Russia did this purely out of some form of expansionist aggression. While that's not entirely wrong, I don't believe it to be really accurate either. But to get to your main question, which is a very good one by the way. I'm afraid I don't have a clear answer on that, sadly I find it to be a common thing to find when it comes to geopolitics in general. Shit in geopolitics never likes being clear and concise. But to break it down, simply put Russia has never really had an ability to project 'soft power' really well, some would argue not well at all. So keeping up appearances does make sense, but expending so much political capital, along with financial, and military capital to create this set up and even more so to maintain it, can't simply just be for appearances. They obviously have to have more than that. An element of not being tied down or being spread too thin is also a possibility, though I would argue that the Russian military isn't spread that thin at all. While they are involved in some shape or form in Georgia, Ukraine, and Syria, two of those three are right on or very near Russia's borders which doesn't allow for much 'spreading' of Russia's military forces. The forces around Georgia's break away regions are not immense, and the forces sent to fight Georgia to my knowledge never exceeded the regional units to begin with, which is the Southern Military District, and even then didn't require all of them. And Russian forces are not really committed in Ukraine, while its fair to argue that some are most likely operating in Ukraine, and the Russian Government is certainly supplying military aid to the Donbass, and Lughansk. But Russia doesn't have significant numbers dedicated there, and I know this because Ukraine still has a standing Army. Ukraine is so rife with Corruption, and it's military has enough dividing loyalties between ethnicities, and ideologies that it makes the Grand Canyon look like childs play, Russia could have easily wiped out the Ukrainian Army if it had so desired, and likely without much effort. And Syria doesn't have that much Russian military assets in it at least compared to what Russia's total military assets are. And while its difficult to find a list of assets and soldier numbers that are stationed in Syria. If I remember correctly the number of assets never really exceeded 24 aircraft of various types, and never exceeded 5000 troops. So spreading thin doesn't seem like a likely motivation to me, though could be a 'grain of sand amongst a heap' kind of deal. In my personal opinion, Russia is doing this more out of an immense sense of insecurity more than anything else. While Russia is the perpetrator of various crimes and brutalities through out history including but not limited to the Soviet Union, and the Russian Empire. Russia itself has been on the receiving end of immense brutality as well, among them is the Nazi Invasion of the Soviet Union, a war which cost the Soviet Union at least 27 Million lives. I can't remember if that's just civilians, or if it includes military dead, but regardless 27 Million is a HUGE number. To put that into perspective for the US its like losing the entire City of New York and then some, or the vast majority of the population of California. And that was from a single war, the US by comparison lost a little over 400K throughout that entire war. The US lost roughly 70times less people over that war than the Soviet Union did. And that's mostly due to the fact that the war never really took place on the US, outside of Hawaii, and some small skirmishes in Alaska of course. Such an immense loss of life from a single war due to the brutality of the invading nation, and in no small part Stalins purging of the military, and lack of proper preparedness to fight the war. Would undoubtedly leave a huge scar on the country. And Russia still suffers from this to this day, the brutality of an outside invader makes Russians and their leaders rather distrustful of others that they don't control. And the population of Russia holds a mix of skepticism and admiration of their government almost to the point of fault. While it sounds like a contradiction it really isn't. So to summarize what is turning into a much larger piece than I intended, I'm sorry about that. I believe Russia is doing this with the break away regions mostly out of a sense of immense insecurity because of past scars and inherent distrust. Keeping the break away regions independent keeps NATO away and adds a buffer, even if a small one between Russia and a NATO friendly country. And all other reasons only add to their resolve to keep doing it.

Shadoweye12 i must say your argument is pretty intresting. But i must say what i think was going on. By russian troops going to abkhasia and and samachablo(south ossetia) they were building bases and they were attacking civilians but they were smart about it and tried to keep those attacks as quiet as possible so nobody could know. Then as the attacks continued putin tricked saakasvili into bombing tskinvali. Russias plan was going smoothly and georgia made this war official. Then you know the rest we lost the war and russia recognized abkhasia and south ossetia. Russians are clearly lying about abkhasias and south ossetia, they are saying that they are independent and tricking west into thinking they georgia started the war. Eu also said that georgia was the real aggresor. Well I believe they said it so they wouldnt lose those resources coming from russia

south Ossetians and Abkhazians don't have the right to take Georgian land

Yes we are victim of the wars in the 90s

war started long before 2008

tiny hippo Georgian armed forces started military operation against separatist militias in its own territory. The country just can’t start war in it’s own borders. It is Russian propaganda that Georgian army killed civilians, you can’t find any evidence for that, but there is a video evidence how Russian backed separatists are torturing Georgian soldier Giorgi Antsukhelidze and how Russian air forces are bombing Georgian civilians. Even today they are moving borders and kidnapping civilians every month.

@@guramdolidze7021 "The country just can’t start war in it’s own borders." Of course it can, it's called civil war, maybe this is a new concept for you, but Georgia started a civil war and Russia ended it in just 5 days, maybe you wanted a long war like those in the 90s?

The war of 2008 and other conflicts that preceded it in this region, are obvious acts of Russian imperialism. Anyone with a brain can understand that.

That statement hasn't been true for 2 years now.

How is the country tourist wise? Sights? Things to do? I've always wanted to see the Caucasus mountains! :')

@@solosyiem Go and visit Georgia, this country is worth seeing. It has long history and monuments. There is wonderful nature and sites in Georgia. You will definitely like local food and people.

Sure thing. It is the top on my bucket list. Going as soon as I have enough money, or maybe a honeymoon destination. Haha, till then! :D

Who cares?

@@solosyiem please dont come to tbilisi. for fucks sake dont come to tbilisi a third of the entire country is in this tiny ass city dont come to tbilisi man.

3rd time?

@@flopsinator5817 Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine

@@flopsinator5817 2nd chechen war, georgia and the 2 ukraine wars.

@@gerindoom You think the Georgian and Ukrainian wars were a repeat of the second Chechen war?

​@@flopsinator5817 No but this is his third war for resources or nationality or both. And same nonstop bombardment of civilians.

Its always the same tactics followed by Russia,they will never change. It's the fault of the west that helped in the early 2000s,they should've left them drowning in their own shit.

Hmmm same steps sorta. Just well Instead of it being quick it's taken atleast 100 odd days.

It's because there using the same tactics as before its always capture what they want back pro independent states and then Peace so they get what they want

Yes. The same in the sense that critical information is left out. At 6:00, the creator fails to mention the CAUSE for the Russian military movement. Georgian military did not simply "move in its own territory". It moved through the towns indiscriminately firing at houses and at anything that moved. By the time Russia's military mobilized Georgia had killed hundreds if innocent civilians, who were woken out of bed to shelling, and injured thousands. Search Graham Phillips, you will see footage taken FROM THE GEORGIANS on the day they drove in. It will shock you. What you are not hearing about the present conflict is that Ukraine has done the same thing to Donbas. For eight years, Ukraine soldiers have been attacking residents as they sleep or cook their meals. Over 3,000 officially. Only two days ago, Ukrainian artillery concentrated on a primary school, killing teachers. You won't hear about that, and if you do, they will say it was the other way around. The footage- raw ground footage - does not lie. When you see footage saying "Russian shoots Ukrainian"... look at the footage, not the footnote. 90% of pro Ukrainian footage is actually fake. 7% is showing the opposite of what is being described. Ukraine government have committed horrendous atrocities.

@@adifferentangle7064 fake news u commie lover

@@adifferentangle7064 ah yes 90% is fake, when you see those russian planes bombarding ukranian schools is obviously fake

@@menem2347 As opposed to Ukrainian artillery shelling schools. with confirmed teachers dead, which is verified. The worst kind of bully is a cry-bully. Hurting people and blaming others.

Georgia bombed buildings which were being used as firing positions by the oasetian army .also neither did the eu or hrw find us guilty of deliberately attacking civilians

@@sababugs1125 yea yea, nice lie.

@@exodus1621 what am i lying about ?

@@sababugs1125 if that's what you'd like to believe, sure I can't blame you since you don't know the other side of the story... I've visited the region a period after the war and I've seen more homes/hospitals/roads in ruines than anything. Besides, no one cares about a minority if it is not supporting their agenda, so naturally they are not found liable. That doesn't mean all those deaths didn't happen though.

@@ww9429 i am not saying those deaths didn't happen .i am saying that the death of those civilians majority of the time was an accident .there were no deliberate attacks on ossetian civilians .

Of the old royal family or of the Romanovs?

it's extremely pro-georgian and doesn't even mention georgia's actions in the war like how they shelled tskhinvali and killed 200 civilians

@@cheekypop It's so pro-Georgian that it claims Georgia expanded into Abkhazia, even though the latter was a Georgian kingdom that unified the other Kartvelian states and formed the first unified Georgian kingdom. It's so pro-Georgian that the video basically says Georgia started the war. It's so pro-Georgian that it pretty much ignores Russian motives or militarization prior to the war. It's so pro-Georgian that it barely mentions Russian, Ossetian and Abkhazian crimes in this war. Fuck off you shill.

Hahahaha, good joke

@@cheekypop You forgot to mention ossetians shelling Georgian villages first on august 1st triggering the war

Not aging well isn't the same thing as changing. It didn't age poorly, it just changed. A better example of something that hasn't aged well would be if some said "Putin would never invade Ukraine" a week ago

@@fishy4reelz right.

Why Georgia dont win?

@@andyyking what??

@@joedenathan4775 why?

It is so biased. And after that, you, westerners, call everyone brainwashed😂😂😂

@@bonzo1402 just checking if you are still alive Ivan

@@dominiksoukal alive and enjoying missiles flying over Hochland🥰

The Russo-Ukraine war has been going on since 2014...

It had been a boiling pot for years before

Oliver stone is russophilic

What a random but informative framing of time 🤣 I'm assuming you mean the highly esteemed gaming reviews channel 😎

@@WalkinNowhere yes. Made by the great Anglo-Australian American game critic, writer and game designer Benjamin Yahtzee Richard Godzilla Croshow the first.

JadeRabbit lookin at it from a different perspective, saakashvili tried to bring NATO to the Russians doorstep, of course they would retaliate.

@@gorgor186 true

So clearly they had a good reason for wanting to join NATO, right? Or do you think Russia was all chill and cool before, and those two just started irritating it out of the blue?

@@gilgamesh_9119 Hard to say honestly. Obviously Putin desires to retain a certain level of control over former Soviet republics, especially those adjacent to Europe. Only the peoples of those nations can decide whether that's good for them or not (some do, many of them don't). Based on the fact Putin has invaded Ukraine and Georgia, but none of the other former Soviet republics, it seems clear that repeatedly signaling an intention to leave Putin's sphere of influence is the red line for him. I'm not justifying that red line, nor do I blame those nations for wanting to assert greater independence for themselves, but I'm also not convinced that the invasions were inevitable. I think these wars demonstrate that the process of gaining such independence is a tricky business with Putin in charge in Russia and probably should've been handled more delicately by those involved, especially the West, than it was. Of course, hindsight is 20/20. Ultimately, t's a really tough issue and I think it's tragic that people are dying because of the paranoia and clumsiness of politicians.

@@chrais78 It has nothing to do with NATO, it's just the Kremlin "excuse" for its imperialistic action, first Georgian-Russian war was in 1991-1993, soon after the collapse of the USSR, after the collapse, they always had in mind the restoration of the USSR.

Yeah, maybe

is that bad word? could you please take him back? we dont need him here...

@@obj.071 მიჰა became a meme because some fanatics mispronounce his name on FB while writing praising comments

@@obj.071 he is wanted man here, send him back so we put him in jail.

@@obj.071 {Miha}.

That miha killed My father!

The georgian shelling hit only 5% of the buildings in tskinvali and we warned them

@@sababugs1125 what about the videos of Georgian troops firing on civilian vehicles trying to escape? Or are you gonna say only 5% of the bullets fired from the PKM hit the car. 😂

@@jadenortiz2388 can you link the video ?

@@sababugs1125 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fgP7fYhJI1g.html

Around 7 minutes

not because of 2008

And his friends mercenaries who participated in the coup in Georgia and went to fight in Ukraine

U know why? Russia finally put their puppets in our government and they follow their orders, we had protests back in June and they violently dispersed the protests, they invited a Russian diplomat to speak in our parliament which the majority of my country men and women got pissed off, they shot at peoples eyes with rubber bullets, 40 people have bad eyesight or no eyesight at all, Russia will never be our friend and it’s government will forever be our number one enemy, Russian people have nothing to do with it of course, I fucking hate the Russian government, they’ve always wanted to take Georgia, but they never will!!!! Fuck Putin and his supporters!!! Long live Georgia 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪❤️❤️!!!

@@ElementalWarrior1999 Putin is also having puppets in Britain, Boris Johnson is now a Russian puppet. Time changes fast and we ignored Russian threat.

@@ElementalWarrior1999 არ გრცხვენია პროტესებზე რომ ლაპარაკობ!!? 7 ნოემბერს რა ქნეს?26 მაისს რა ქნეს როცა თვალების დათხრა კი არა ხალხი დახოცეს! მიშა არ იყო ფორმით რომ გამოვიდა 2008ში და მერე გორში იჩმორა!!?მიშას გამო არაა დღეს ქართველებს ჰავსტუხ მჭამელებს რომ გვეძახიან და ჩვენ პასუხსაც ვერ ვცემთ!!?

If a country wants to join NATO, they should be able to

The reason for war was because both sides Did I say one or the other? No I said both sides Were committing warcrimes, human rights violations and atrocities. Which isn't surprising that's just what Eastern Europeans do is commit crimes against humanity. This war was inevitable. Though I wish it wasn't.

As a American we don't want you in NATO like we don't want Ukraine in NATO because we dont want humanity extinct by nuclear war. I an American would rather send you guys guns like we are with Ukraine and have you fight to the last ethnic individual as every American bravely would rather happen, than have Georgia or Ukraine join NATO which will spark a nuclear ww3 and extinction. As a American I see Georgia and Ukraine as allies by levy use to fight Russia without dragging NATO into conflict. I and millions of other Americans want Georgia and Ukraine to be proxy war cannon fodder to fight and indefinitely weaken Russia rather than go to nuclear with Russia upon your membership. This isnt personal I love Georgia but I'm a realist.

Right now you are separatist fucks but this will end very soon. Like all of the former societ republics you will return into the fold and the next generation will not be brainwashed by Uncle Sam any longer.

People know what Georgia is. Only russian propaganda or American ignorance can mislead you.

@@PewPewPlasmagun we are very far from being a "separatist fuck" you are uneducated so please go back to kindergarten and then speak.

What fake facts .like abkazia was majority Georgian? Or that ossetians settled there during the 8th century?

Also georgia just wants its own land back

Ok

Ok

Ok

If Russia invaded Georgia again, after what's going on in Ukraine, the west, through Turkey, would aid Georgia like it is with Ukraine. Infact why Georgia isn't attacking Ossetia and Abkhazia and Russia is a surprise beyond me. I wish you guys declare war on Russia in support and solidarity and alliance with Ukraine.

I've got acquaintance, who moved to Sevastopol in Crimea from NY and before doing so she told her friend and response was "In which state it is?"

Wow

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

As an American, that doesn't surprise me at all

Only in Murica.

I'm Georgian and still see the effects from the war, when I visit a relative there is a School nearby that has been turned into a Permanent Housing from refugees. I can see it out of the apartment building window. There's a different one too less than a hundred meters down and a small gravestone with water coming out with a Georgian soldier's drawing and his name on it.

I just think of a time-travel story! Rather than fight Russia modern Georgia sends its people, soldiers, equipment and other stuff back in time to 1008 AD! Medieval Georgia modernizes and conquers its Pagan and Muslim neighbors, the Russian kingdoms as well as Mongolia!

@@christiandauz3742 yea and commit genocide in the name of god . you would think if people can time travel they would provide medicine to those people to fight plague and cholera maybe give them the tech to build dams and produce electricity. but no just give them modern weapons to help them slaughter more people

@@4Before4 The Industrial Revolution and the fact that ALL of the Modern Georgians will be going back in time would prevent that With Medieval Georgia absorbing Modern Science the people will push for more rights and securities Plus the Crusades would not happen as Georgia not only eases the burden on the Byzantine Empire but conquers its neighbours becoming a multi-ethnic, multi-religious nation just like Historical Medieval Hungary

@@christiandauz3742 yeah at that time the georgian army would have been commanded by daivd the IV one of the best leaders in history .what world it would be where georgia would stretch from Lisbon to busan

how many times do we gotta teach you this lesson old man

@@ChristopherGray00 they shot all ukrainian jets. Whats your point US. invader?

@@rekamud6635 40k Russian casualties and Russian advance almost entirely stopped. What's your point, fascist?

@@stephenjenkins7971 I made a point, you swallowed it up and pulled something out of your butt like every little kid does, grow some hair and piss out of my country

@@stephenjenkins7971 “”””Fascist”””” Do we need to teach you the meaning of “Fascist” for the 109390th time?

When I got this assignment I was hoping there would be more gambling.

Kindly, Shut the fuck up, please?

Ave, true to caesar

Y'know if you were serving, youd probably be halfway to General.

Get fucked

Don't worry qardaş, you will take back what's yours once again

Yeah at least people remeamber we exist

Yea

Is your PFP a sleepover or the holocaust?

@@citizenfoffie7605 I..think it is

I saw the episode and it made me mad. Seeing some guy get pushed around like that sucks hard and he can't do anything about it.

@@minisciencedude The warmongers on both sides (and yes, I mean *both* sides, including Tbilisi, not the usual "Russia bad everyone else good") get their profits anyways. Why would they care for the ordinary folk?

@@ivanskopin7723 Ah yeah the "both sides are warmongers'' argument. What are russian soldiers even doing on another sovereign country's territory ? What "profit'' did Tbilisi get from that war exactly ?

@@K767-o1t I'm not talking about country-level profit, I'm talking about the people who run weapon factories who make money out of every rifle sold. Regarding your first point, the video clearly states that they were there because of CIS business. It also clearly states that they were kicked out and withdrew from most of Georgia. But the video *also* conveniently "forgot" to mention that Russian peacekeepers in S. Ossetia and Abkhazia were on a UN-mandated peacekeeping mission. And you failed to provide evidence as to why one of the sides isn't a warmonger. I can link you to a EU report (no less) that clearly places the blame for the war on both sides. On Georgia (as firing the first shot at Russian troops) and on Russia (as exploiting the situation to go into Georgia proper).

@@K767-o1t ABkhazia and South Osethia dont want to be in shitty Georgia.

In what country did western backed coup brought prosperity, freedom? Its all about exploiting other countries for financial gain. Even if Georgia would be in NATO influence Georgian people wouldn't feel a difference

@@cactuslietuva Except for being bombed indiscriminately since an attack on one member is an attack on all. Pretty sure Georgians would notice not having to fear Putler's tanks and bombers.

@@kavky NATO is not one big army. Russian gas still has huge political power over Europe. Russia would simple deny their involvement in Georgia, like they did in Ukraine.

@Optic64654 Yeah, you still would have your companies, banks, territory bought by Western money. The only think EU and Nato gave for my country was ability to emigrate to have better life abroad.

No western backed coup has ever brought prosperity to any country. EVER!

As a Ukrainian, we're looking at something similar.

@@RIOT690 Absolutely. with everything that has been going on, I pray that both sides will find a way to avoid war because I can't even imagine the fear and the damage... I wish we could do more then verbal support but know that my thoughts and prayers are with all of you during these times. You are not alone in this.

Go russia, go!

@@TsaristCossack Did georgia ever barge into russia, no warning, escorting people out of their homes, etc etc? No? Yeah, that's exactly what i thought

@богатырь Росси́я most sane people would prefer a "western liberal shithole" to whatever you have going on

As a Russian living in Georgia can confirm

Which Georgian verbs do you know?

@@m.m.3653 none, I've watched videos explaining them and it's very difficult

@@ДмитрийДровокол pronounce gvrptskvni

lol being Georgian has its privileges, most people from other countries struggle with the pronunciation of our words, especially verbs. although on the other hand, my accent in every language is above average because of my mother tongue. so don't worry about it too much, you're not the only one, just people interested and trying to learn our language makes me happy! you have my deepest respects!

Damn, I didn’t know about that. That’s really interesting, and a major dick move on Russia’s part.

Aren’t you dead?

arent 2 of the kims here supposed to be dead

@@patrickstar1723 Eternal Leader will never perish, Eternal Leader Kim Il Song always keep country safe.

Kim Il Sung Nice too see rocket man and rocket man junior around here but I’m a bigger fan of Papa Stalin

Forgot the Nagorno Karabakh war?

@@flopsinator5817 karabakh isn't really in europe is it? Also it wasn't a full war between the two countries. More of very intense border conflict as all the fighting occured inside of azerbaijani territory as defined by international law.

@@Krasipol I would argue it's still within Europe. It was also a conventional war, regardless of where the fighting took place.

@@flopsinator5817 i understand where you are coming from! One can certainly see it your way. Doesn't matter. Both wars are/were terrible and definetly more than just skirmishing.

You think so? I'm not exactly an expert on these matters but I feel like Russia is in no position to declare war on NATO, since I highly doubt China would join in on it's side. Besides the fact that they'd most likely lose, there's also the prospect of nuclear war. I'm not sure Putin would do it.

NATO enlargement has probably reached its limits for the time being. But one day there should be an opportunity Georgia to join.

Other way around. NATO promised Georgia future membership in April then two weeks later Russia opened official relations with the breakaway republics. Two days later a Georgian drone was shot down and the Russians said the Georgians were mobilizing and that they would respond. Russian Troops moved into Abakazia and then withdrew after protests and leaks indicated that the Russians wanted war in August or September. Then in August sepratist militias began shelling Georgian troops and Georgia invaded and Russia invaded as a consequence. The NATO promise was what triggered Russia to act in the first place not the result of the war, but the trigger. As a result they separated the regions fully and made membership much more difficult.

Russia is a paper tiger. NATO really needs to just take the quick cost of a few hundred billions for a war with Russia to see just how weak the Russian military is and bring Russia to heel and humble them. You'd save a lot more money in one big war than continuing to pay tons of money every year tolerating their saber rattling and disruption of the political and economic world. Russia can't back up it's boasts.

That's a great way to get nuked.

Russia has a right to ensure territorial security. Why is NATO expanding? Is Ukraine on the Atlantic? Not to mention that various dual citizens hold power in Ukraine. Truly a corrupt wedge territory to give NATO a direct path to Moscow.

@@unatco6554 every country has right to secure its territory. So georgia and ukraine are doing it... if russia would ve been peaceful country nor ukraine or georgia would have thought about joining NATO. Russia have invaded both countries long before NATO even existed so shake your brain, problem is not in NATO problem is in russia

@@nikamikeladze7146 Russia asked to join NATO in 2000 and was rejected. NATO is the problem. Half of the countries in NATO are nowhere near the Atlantic.

@@unatco6554 WTF man? What y mean atlantic? The ocean? Y think that "atlantic" is a problem? Ever read any history about russia or caucasus or eastern europe? Do you think that USA forcing countries to join nato? Maybe yes but eastern european countries willing to join nato not because someone is forcing them, they just want to join because of mtf russia... russia has been rapeing all of its neighbour countires throughout the history.. just do some research. Where y from?

Putin: 👁👁

Yes indeed thats the very same thing happening until today. They're slowly moving it more and more onto georgian soil, metre by metre. Just search for "creeping borders" or something among the lines

I watched a documentary yesterday in which a Georgian stated his elderly neighbour had woken up one day to find his garden had changed countries.

@@vorynrosethorn903 did that actually happen? Is he right on the border I guess? It seems the current Georgian government has ok relations with Russia. I talked to some pro EU Georgians and they seemed pretty willing to just give these regions up so they don't have a border dispute preventing EU membership.

Or Saakashvilli wanting to jump down from a roof in Kiev. He is really a crazy guy but also funny.

@@cr3amyn3ll66 You mean a muder, who murdered opposition in Georgia.

@@cactuslietuva which were sponsored by russians?😀

@@cactuslietuva ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JrjHR6ZOHqo.html here you go enjoy

lol

typical russia's tactic lmao

Carpet bombing Tbilisi? What a west propaganda does to mf

And got blasted by dozen if not hundreds of rockets, lmao

@@luisvilca4467 After killing many Russians, yeah. Mighty Russia, held back from a 3rd world nation in open combat, not even reaching guerilla warfare yet. Pathetic, isn't it?

A large part if the Ukrainians are neonazis and the zelensky regime is killing its own people.

@@luisvilca4467 Is that why Russians are fleeing from Kiev? because Georgian Legion was and still is there

@@luisvilca4467 and yet russians are still fleeing.

Scared of what ? Time to return to mother Russia.

@@stinyg corny ahh

You do know Azerbaijan and Armenia went at it before Russia and Ukraine right?

@@thecommunistdoggo1008 actually, they went at it a butt load of times

@@rubietkx That's what I was saying why are you correcting what was already a correct statement?