Federal 209A Compared to Federal MZ 

I thought the same thing before these test. Some of the subscribers kept asking what primer I was using. I went into the test a little to prove that it didn't matter. Yeah I was wrong. But the powder charge is the main factor. That's why I weight my charges to make sure they are as accurate as possible. Thank you for watching.

It’s my pleasure. It seems the “muzzleloader only” primer are slower but they are still go enough at most muzzleloader distances. Thanks for hanging with us.

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“One Raggedly hole”. I assume that means they are all touching? That’s freaking awesome!!! Have you got a chance to hunt with it yet?

Not yet, but I hope to introduce one of our WNY whitetails to it this year. And, yes; all the holes were touching. The rifle wears a 3-9x Leupold Ultimate Slam slug and muzzleloader scope that I took off of another gun.

That’s awesome!!! Thanks for watching

I have to say I was rather impressed!! I will be on the hunt for more. Thanks again brother

Based off my recommendation from your videos to my buddy ,using triple 7 150 gr pellets with 290 gr bore driver he had my Accura I sold him shooting the best I ever seen 👍🏼

Valid point my good Sir.

With the exception of the one in the BH209 video, Cheddite has working well during my test. One of the best. They actually had faster FPS then the CCImag primers. I honestly think the one that misfired was a one off. Didn’t have a problem before or since

I think I can make that happen. Thanks for watching

No I haven’t thought of that. To be clear how much black powder and by what measure? Adding black powder to 150gn of 777 pellets… I would be concerned about over pressuring the rifle. Have you seen any signs of that? Also how consistent are your velocities? Let me know and will do my own research. Might could put this idea to the test.

@@suburbanhunt3653 I use a 10 grain spoonful of Swiss FF powder followed by the three 50 grain 777 pellets and a 290gr Hornady FTX in a CVA Wolf. I have a chronograph but it rarely works right, I never ran it over the chrono. For me the recoil, point of impact at 100 yards and everything else seems the same, just no more hangfires when it's really cold. I texted my buddy, turns out he uses Blackhorn 209 powder and Powerbelts, not sure about what they weigh. He claims they're a bit harder on the shoulder and group a little higher and tighter for him. That would indicate a potential pressure spike with the recoil. No sign of any earth shattering kaboom for me. The primers look normal at least.

Federal Gold Match? Not seen those. As you stated primers are hard to find. But I will keep my eyes open for them. Thanks for watching.

@@suburbanhunt3653 The Federal Gold Medal match rifle primer I used in my center fire, they perform well. I like Federal primers for shooting performance.

Congratulations on stepping into the world of Muzzleloading. What did you go with, rifle wise? There are hundreds of combos to use out there and I dare say that 95% will get the job done. In the description I have a link for all of my groups that might help you get started. Just hit the range and know what your rifle will do with that load and you are go to go. I wish the best luck in the hunting woods. Thank you for watching.

A 22 LR case? Just picturing that in my mind it seems like that would be a rather small amount of powder. What Volume or Weight measurement does that provide? A 22LR case would be a lot more convenient to carry. That’s awesome. Thanks for watching

@@suburbanhunt3653 ya, just a little bit, don't dare to go big on that. It's just enough to get down into the breech block right near the primer and make sure the pellet lights

@@jeffhays1968 I had to go back a read the original post. Somehow I skipped the “before the pellet charge”. That makes A LOT more sense 😜 sorry about that.

Interesting I had not. I wonder how much that plays into the “reduced” pop. Thanks for watching and letting me know.

Looks like I’m taking a different route home😁 I will call first but thank you!!!

@@suburbanhunt3653 yeah I’m gonna go tomorrow myself and get a few

@@suburbanhunt3653I just left got me 3 -100 packs 7.99 a piece …they offered to sell me a whole brick of them and there was around 20 left on the shelf 👍🏼

I just harvested one of my biggest buck to date with that exact load!! Big buck. The hide was so thick the projectile didn’t past through after hitting a rib. The entry hole was large enough to produce a great blood to follow. I can only image how it would have been if it missed the bone and had complete pass through. The new 340gr ELD-X however drop a doe in track. The exit was quit impressive. Stay tuned for those video in the coming weeks. Thank you for watching.

Absolutely. It’s harder to tell due to the varying weights of the pellets adding it own inconsistency.

With BH209 needing the “hotter” primers I can see why.

What primer are you using with the T-7 loose? FFG or FFFG?

@@suburbanhunt3653 I have the fffg powder and the federal muzzleloader primers work better with it

I believe I saw some of that at a place in Columbia TN. Any particular charge in weight? Otherwise I will have to research the data and see what charge would be best. But yes I’m sure I can get my hands on the powder and test it across the 6 projectiles that is have, using CCI 209mag primers.

@@suburbanhunt3653 100GrV which I believe is around 82GrW, but I’d would double check that. Set the Bullet firmly make sure it’s a packed charge. Not the highest velocities but very consistent

Fed 209mz and bh 209 breech plug

I see now why they are. I will most definitely be on the look out for a brick. God willing😁

Haven’t tested those yet

NEVER HAS A MISFIRE RAIN SLEET OR SNOW. COLD OR HOT. THEY MAKE TWO KINDS FOR MZL. FYI. @@suburbanhunt3653