Fedora Linux vs. OpenSUSE - What is BEST for you!? 

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Tip: if you are running Fedora, dnf will be SLOW until you enable parallel download of packages, open /etc/dnf/dnf.conf and add the following line to the end of the file: max_parallel_downloads=10.

Oh boy you opened my Personal Box of Pandora 👀🤣 two gigantic RPM based Enterprise focussed distros. Being a German 🇩🇪 I of course have a soft spot for SuSE 😁

Finally OpenSuse being considered in Linux world... it usually get so much underrated it is a crime. I've been using it as my main OS for years and tomorrow I will be using it at work finally (besides Windows with Dual Boot), I am still wondering if going for Leap or Tumbleweed, I always used Leap or the stable releases

A comparison between the two SUS os es would be appreciated: AmongOs vs OpenSuse

OpenSUSE should be used if you need a stable system that you will run for years. I have been using OpenSUSE for 10 years, snapper and yast are very important to me.

OpenSuSE's KDE is one of the best implementations of KDE along with Manjaro while Fedora's GNOME is one of the best implementations of GNOME. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a bit more demanding on RAM than OpenSuse Leap as per my experience.

11:40 package kit running in the background, just wait until it finishes, on boot up it checks for updates takes some minutes after boot. Then you re free to install and whatever you want without issues. Network manager, switch in Yast to either yast or user controlled. Yes, there are apps installed, so you can directly start and use them, otherwise select minimal install. I definitely prefer OpenSUSE over every other distribution, because of Yast. And that my Ryzen+ nvida combo notebook works out of the box without fiddling with tumbleweed and 5 connected.

One gotcha in Suse is if you remove a package that was installed as part of a pattern, it will auto reinstall. There is a setting to stop that, but you have to know and go hunt in a config file. Thats my only complain with all of Suse. Some things are clunky. Overall I view Tumbleweed as Arch done right.

Always appreciate your info, sir. Having moved from Windows to Linux , I’m just not a fan of any distro that feels like a “Nerds Gone Wild”. That’s what Opensuse felt like to me. Also not a fan of Gnome, so Fedora Workstation flagship also isn’t for me. MX Linux however is just my speed. But I really like the Linux journey, so I’ll revisit those again when I’m ready.

Since this month i´m using Linux Desktop for 20 years. I started with Suse Linux 8.1 with KDE. 20 years and many distro hopps later I´m on Fedora 37 Workstation. When Fedora is now my favorite daily driver, opensuse tumbleweed is my alltime number two as a professional working base.

openSUSE Tumbelweed is already running Gnome 43 while Feodra gets it on October 18. Just for the record

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I gave Fedora a try. From what little I saw of it it appeared nice and polished. But it didn't seem to like my hardware configuration at all. Once installed, it booted and immediately flooded me with error report pop ups. I installed the update hoping that it would fix it, and it just bricked itself. I just wiped the drive and installed OpenSUSE, which I've been using for months now and it has been rock solid despite me being relatively new to Linux and not having a single clue of what I am doing. I guess experience may vary.

To be honest, Tumbleweed KDE is simply the best as a rolling Distribution when you've got a new laptop! It even let me install a new firmware and bios upgrade out of the box.

2:17 Whoa I never knew this existed, and I've been using tumbleweed for over 2 yrs 😭 thank you

love opensuse tw, it's solid, almost never had any issues other than maybe the update that break something, but you can always get back up and running either by going on their forum, or just waiting for a fix to get pushed. Setting up a solid KVM experience was basically a single click.

Love or hate suse, but admit that they have the best Linux songs.

Last time I used SUSE, it was sent out with Linux magazines. Mandrake and Knoppix days kinda. Way long ago lol

I using both. Suse Tumbleweed in my desktop & in my laptop i use Fedora. I tested and using this two distro specially opensuse is much stable, suitable and best for me, other hand fedora is probably same as like Opensuse Tumbleweed. Few days ago i change my laptop os to fedora kde from zorin.

I use both everyday. Both imo are the most complete linux distros out there.

I tried tumbleweed, but the installation was slow.

Hi. The toothbrush in the link is different than your ad roll. It only has 2 heads while the ad roll shows it with 12 heads. Edit: the Amazon link says 12 heads in the description but the picture only shows 2 heads. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

I'm think Yast a different target audience, it is more powerful vs. Desktop utilities that are more limited.

Fedora's exclusive is the one-of-the-kind integration level with gnome including the software store, which allows you to very easily install new input methods etc. sth i struggled with a lot in the past on other distros.

I need to test drive Fedora again after many years. It receive too many compliments recently. But my opinion on both was the same as your conclusion for OpenSuse. In the past I found them both to be kinda good but no at the same time; like the Ubuntu of now. Time to start up to some VMs and reevaluate.

Both of these distros are excellent and my 2 favorite at the moment.. But I ultimately settled on Fedora KDE spin, but if I have problems with Fedora then I'd be just as happy going back to TW.

Fedora is focused on Gnome, Tumbleweed on the other hand on KDE. Zypper and DNF both are slow but in my experience opensuse is a better experience.

I used SuSE starting with 7.1 Professional back before it was bought out by Novel years ago, then switch to Fedora after the purchase and never looked back. Recently I tried OpenSUSE again, uh not so great so back on Fedora and you can use dnf to do a full upgrade to the next version so that's not an issue!

Surprised to see the COPR website working for you, it's literally unusable for me every time I've tried it (timeouts or just slow af), wish Fedora, Suse, Debian, etc.. had access to AUR, or hopefully a better AUR

nobody ever talks about packages available in the repos, they talk about proprietary stuff at length but rarely foss stuff, there's so much foss stuff out there that isn't packaged as an rpm only a deb, even proprietary stuff that the folks who make it package themselves, they target deb based distros and nobody ever talks about this in distro reviews as if people aren't gonna care. YES we have flatpack/snaps/appimages but containerized applications have limits native packaged applications don't. permissions. you download an rpm for fedora, that doesn't mean it'll work with opensuse cause they may not package all the dependencies it needs. there more than a couple of pieces of software only available as debs and you can't get them any other way cause its closed source so you either run a deb based os or you just can't get the software. someone tell me im a dumb dumb and there's something im overlooking. i use flatpak/snaps/appimages and i still come across stuff that i have to go to the software vendor for, sometimes they package their stuff as a deb and rpm, but there are a lot of times they only offer debs.

I saw the cursed Tux drawing and I love it

I think AUR can be replaced with the OBS (yes you can also use it with Arch). If you have some packaging experience you can also port these AUR packages into a rpm based distro.

my only concern with Fedora is dnf and its peed updating. even after recommended changes seems to be slow by default.

Opensuse tumbleweed.. is king 👑🌟

Although Suse 9 has a special place in my heart as it was my first! Fedora will be it for the foreseeable future

I tried Fedora, but had a problem with blank screen after suspend. I switched to openSUSE Tumbleweed and had a problem with Wi-Fi disconnecting after suspend, but resolved it with a script to restart the network manager service after waking from suspend. I ran into the same problem connecting to Wi-Fi during the openSUSE install, but worked around it by switching from 5 Ghz network to 2.4 Ghz network. 🤷‍♂️

You know, they really do have quite a lot in common.

A personal question, if you don't mind? I'm very keen on linguistics, and have been wondering what your first language might be?

My Fedora 38's DNF package manager is 95% as fast as Pacman in my highly tweaked pure Arch install on the same hardware.

It is possible to apply full disk encryption after installation ?

I used ubuntu for a long period. But recently I have been using fedora. And I have to admit that fedora is the best distro for me. Fedora is just best at everything. I am never going back to ubuntu ever again.

There are two thinks about linux, particularly Leap that i hate. 1. every time it updates it breaks and then i speaks weeks fixing it. 2. There are a lot of programs that i use regularly that don't work on linux even under wine, and this makes me want windows back. Not to mention how out of date a lot of programs are, compared to what is available.

I have been trying linux on VM for a while and now thinking to make it my daily driver. I have installed Linux on my machine but I am unable to find a replacement of Asus Armoury Crate to control the components. Can anyone help me?

I tested fedora then opensuse then mint, mint now is the best

I just installed Fedora 38 on a Laptop and Chrome and Spotify fail installing from the app store. So it doesn't just work. Also the OS is still missing the basic of the basics like the minimise button. Linux continues to be in a beta operating system after decades at this point.

I've never really ventured out of Debian distros. I need to fix that.

Both fantastic distros, I started using suse back in the day of suse 9.1, never particularly liked rolling releases though so when it was revealed that leap will not be continued I ended up switching to fedora.

Who in their right mind would use OpenSUSE with GNOME when it is a KDE distribution? They should surely remove GNOME for good from their installator

Is the g pronounced in GNOME? GNOME stands for "GNU Network Object Model Environment". GNU stands for "GNU's Not Unix", and has always been officially pronounced "guh-NEW" to minimize confusion. Since GNU is GNOME's first name, GNOME is officially pronounced "guh-NOME".

When he says OpenSUSE feels unpolished, he must be talking about the Gnome version, because the KDE version is considered to be the best implementation - even KDE devs have said it.

Yabridge on Fedora 🙏🏼

*sigh* Dude has mentioned wallpapers, without mentioning *snapshots* ... I can't with these reviews , completely pointless

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed would have been an ideal distro for me, but, unfortunately, some software is either not available on it or a pain to install. I wish, it was "the main Linux distro", instead of Ubuntu, but it isn't, and I was forced to switch because of my work. Having great stable and rolling versions of the same distro would have made it the best "default" distro, in my opinion

open suse rules !

Fedora stable my ass, i would rather stay with debian and its 2yrs old apps, but now issues!

Normalize the volume of your videos please. :)

both have very weird defaults and default gnome on fedora is unusable

OpenSuSe Is The"Debian From Fedora"Less User Friendly....

Between fedora and open suse the better is arch Linux.

NEITHER-- there are PLENTY in just ARCH and DEBIAN-- don't need any more "flavors".. too much freakin choice as it is.

Is Fedora or OpenSuse buisness distros

I use Ubuntu

manjaro😁

The only problem I have with opensuse tumbleweed is game that requires DirectX 11. It doesn't seems to run or download it even with proton or wine.

New users won't have your 'shiny' vocabulary.

Dnf slow???? Been on fedora for years never thought dnf was slow and never had a issue with it at all.

I like the fact that OpenSUSE Tumbleweed slightly behind bleeding edge. It is curated in a way that you are likely to not get hit with system problems that you would otherwise get with Arch.

This is a good comparison but I think you missed one vital thing about SUSE. BTRFS and Snapper as default. Any update goes bad and rollback takes all of 10 minutes. It is all setup with reasonable defaults on your install and it removes all concerns I had about a rolling release. NVidia driver problems...rollback.... deleted important files.... rollback... it is great

I am really surprised the "Everything" installer version of Fedora wasn't mentioned, especially since it incorporates all the same things as the OpenSUSE installer. Makes people think there is only Gnome with Fedora, when there are plenty of other options for desktop environments.

Neither of these worked best for me.. Manually adding the mirrors from a web list for OpenSUSE was troublesome. And I couldn't add the repositories in Yast because of a certain Great Firewall causing its problems. I'm not a fan of Fedora's installer to configure a manual partition layout for my PC.. Anaconda is horrible compared to Calamares. There is no best Linux out there.. My advice is find a distro and D.E. that works best for you whatever it may be, and stick with it !

I use Tumbleweed for quite a while after coming from Mint KDE which has been discontinued years ago. Sure, the installer feels a little like Windows 98 from its looks and if you are on nVidia Graphics, openSuSE is anything but simple to set up. Also multimedia codecs are annoying but outside of that, I feel like it's the best mixture so far when it comes to usability and cutting edge software. Plus, I love KDE Plasma and SUSE ever since makes sure this DE shines on their distro.

I use Fedora and SUSE leap15.4. I do my compiling with the latter, and then run the compiled programs on each. SUSE Leap's compiled programs seem to be 10% smaller in size for the same functionality. I am second guessing that the compiler libraries are very highly optimized by SUSE.

I've used both fedora and opensuse (tumbleweed) as daily driver's and they're both very stable. In my experience it's easier to install the software I use on fedora but it was easier for me to use multiple desktop environment's on opensuse. I currently use fedora on my laptop and might install fedora or opensuse on my main PC again. Overall I like both distributions.

if it hasnt been shown in the video, theres also fedora "everything" which gives you quite a bit more to pick from in anaconda, and might suit the need of someone who wants multiple desktop environments installed, or just more choice available.

I use fedora as my linux distro and it’s been great but at the end of day use the distro that you like . Both of them are fantastic so technically in my opinion there is no best :)

thanks for highlighting OpenSUSE. I'm a daily user myself so this is kind of a pleasure :)

Like, there could be nothing wrong with this video, but you try to compare Fedora and openSUSE (as I saw Tumbleweed, without even saying something more about Leap releases) without having much knowledge. The package managers are the weakest point, why? Because they are slow. Bruh. I used Fedora for some years and openSUSE (I also used Debian, Arch, Manjaro, Ubuntu, etc.) and zypper is the best package manager from any other pkgmgrs I used. It has multiple options like locking packages, adding ofc new repo etc. And the best thing is that zypper uses short commands, you can type "zypper install" (the beginner way) or "zypper in" (the professional way). Still however comparing Fedora and openSUSE is I think a good choice as openSUSE and Fedora communities are mostly friendly to each other.

Funny you mention DNF’s slowness. DNF4 (the current version on Fedora) was written in Python. DNF5, which is coming with Fedora 39 I believe, is written in C++ and is ridiculously faster than DNF4.

As a Suser for 25 years, the stability, yast, and reliability are excellent. For home gaming, tumbleweed is more stable now, for a rolling release.

Started on opensuse back in 2005 (bought a burned cd from ebay). Distro hopped for over a decade and came back to tumbleweed. I love it. It even made me a fan of KDE when I've been using gnome2 and mate up until now.

Fedora for now, haven't really tested OpenSUSE. But Fedora is stable enough for me and I've never had problems with it so far.

My favorite thing about techHut videos...my ears don't get blown out, but the excitement of tech still shines through. Keep up the great videos!

With opensuse tumbleweed i've always had dependencies issues.. For example , a Program needed libuuid and there was actually libuuid, but with a slightly different name. Zypper was kinda confused and had to install it *without* libuuid and potentially breaking dependencies. I never had something like this at all on any distro

You are correct in that Fedora is one of the best. I am a long time linux user, since the 90s, Caldera, Red Hat, Slackware, SuSe a bit later, 2001 and so forth and so on, Fedora Core 2. Rpm is familiar territory and very powerful. I avoid Ubuntu because it is dumbed down to a typical Windows user, which is a good thing for a Windows user which is not a bad thing at all, might as well skip ahead and run Debian.

KDE: openSuse GNOME: Fedora

Would you recommend using SELinux on OpenSUSE? I am not an advanced user but I would like to have the same security as Fedora

Debian's package manager is DPKG, not APT.

I have used both extensively over the last 25 odd years. Since Gnome 3 came out I prefer SuSE as it is KDE all the way.

I'm a Win user but I have some weeks that I only work on linux and openSUSE Thumbleweed was my #1 for a very long time. Every single update was a mess and was breaking my system so I removed it and started using Fedora as they started partnership with Lenovo (but this comment I'm writing from Ubuntu)

Suse really helped me learn more about Linux. Play around with things, Yast to point in the right direction. Accidentally screw it up, just rollback in Snapper.

For anyone wanting to try an OpenSuse system i would straight up recommend picking up Gecko Linux instead. It's pr much exactly like OpenSuse, except their entire point is to make it more user friendly and better working out of the box (as well as more supported DEs). As a Tumbleweed user i gotta say nothing is more annoying than after an install realising half of the videos on RU-vid wont work and then faintly remember that you have to add the packman repo and make a vendor change to get proper media codecs working. If i knew that existed earlier i would've picked them immediately. Also best feature imo is the preconfigured snapper making a rollback of the system a matter of seconds if anything ever goes wrong (like adding and changing to the KDE dev repos and realising stuff doesn't work as well anymore, no that i would no anything about that).

May I add the update process for tumbleweed is rock solid? Arch installations I’ve left for a month have broken on updating and needed a reinstall, whereas I’ve seen someone’s 6 month old tumbleweed installation swap out nearly every package in the system with no errors.

are the suse bugs you encountered fixed now in 2024?

YAST were created so that the OpenSUSE experience in KDE & Gnome *(EDIT: and all other DE)* were equal. Otherwise, the setting in KDE & Gnome *(and all other DE)* will be different. Especially since Gnome setting were more simple than KDE. 2nd, the YAST setting have the terminal mode (text mode) which is very useful for tech support fixing other computer over the network/internet.

How about Fedora KDE vs openSUSE KDE?

The reason for a delay in zypper and yast2 software is it fully syncs the repo status before doing anything. I find this step is faster on the 2nd run. This is apposed to my limited experience with some others just failing at the install step until you manually do a resync or say update repos.

I'm just the opposite. We all have our favorite distros, but I prefer OpenSuSe Tumbleweed with a KDE destop. Gnome is to simple for serious work! Just Sayin.

openSUSE Tumbleweed +XFCE best combo, R&R distro and stable desktop.

I'm very happy with opensuse leap