Showing your Felder slider with a suit on, I love it! Awesome shop, I love how clean and bright everything is. I bet it's much easier to focus on the task at hand! Great video.
Very helpful review and a most unusual video in a few ways - firstly there is not one speck of sawdust evident anywhere - secondly the woodworker is wearing a suit and thirdly the presentation is delivered with a speaking voice a Hollywood actor would pay good money for! Bravo I say and off I go to Felder!
Laughing so hard. You made my day. I usually keep my shop clean but for this video I made it extra clean. The suit was a joke cause I never wear a suit. I wear the suit to see if it would generate comments. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Nice saw.. your demo makes it shine! Almost bought the same saw but settled for a Hammer C3-31 combo instead (smaller shop) but now that I have a bigger workshop, and after watching your video, I wish I had ...Keep up the good demos
Love it, just purchased the K700S with Eric, with the 49” rip fence and the premium 1500 crosscut table!!! Awesome video, it definitely helped me make up my mind! I was going to get the Maksiwa to save money, but Felder customer service won me over!!!! Thanks
Wow! I haven’t seen you in that suit since you got married. Gilbert, you have a very nice piece of equipment! This will permit you to do your work a lot more easier! Congratulations!
Felder make one hell of a machine, the options and accessory's are all available for those that just want to buy the shop made solution and have the means to do so. It looks well built enough, and certainly has advantages over the typical table saw. The downside outside the investment if there is one, is this beast eats a lot of floor space, and being a more complicated machine will require some upkeep above and beyond the alternative. You never have your hands near the blade, that's the best feature.
Thank you for posting this video. I am currently in the market for a new saw and I was considering either the Sawstop or the Felder. You make some excellent points for the Felder. I spoke with the representative today and am going through the options I want. Thanks again for all your insights!
You and that saw take it to a very high level. The suit is a nice touch :-) Such a clean and beautiful garage. FYI, I have been to Noelville many times
@@frenchriversprings Los Angeles for last 30+ years, but grew up in Sudbury. My parents had a camp by the beausejour and my stepfather Vic Lamarre had one across rainbow camp, small world
Very nice video, I was never taught all the tricks but over time I learned a lot myself and many are similar to how you work. Felder make great machines. And btw, I make my own accessories when needed. =)
One very important spec for the 700 vs. the 500 is the trunnion that compensates for length of cut with changing tilt of the blade. 500 does not have this feature (a simpler trunnion). I chose to get the servo motored tilt and raise of the blade. This feature makes your thought process quicker to arrive at blade changes and when in the middle of several different measures it can speed up your process remarkably. When doing a bust cut where you have wood on the table and want to raise the blade for a stop cut; the servo assist allows you to hold the wood and push the slider and check your progress all at the same time. When cutting a 4' X 8' piece of ply the servo assist allows you to do it with simple action. You can take the blade cut below the table and whirl the wood without taking the 4 X 8 off of the table when you have servo assist. To me it is the difference between a manual transmission vs. automatic in a car. I worked at one larger shop briefly and they had three SawStop saws and my opinion was that saw was an antique concept with a finger sensor. The saw guard was impossible to see around and without that slider one operator could not do larger rips with accuracy. Keep greasing the fittings on schedule if that saw has them.
I use my rip fence both for ripping and as a stop. When I first got my saw, I didn't use the rip fence for ripping at all. But it's still the better choice for parallel ripping lumber, especially lumber too long to fit on the sliding table (my table is shorter, around 6' capacity). My tiny shop has enough room for me to process lumber up to 7' long, so I use the rip fence for that. Your comments about it not taking up much more room than a cabinet saw are right on. I need the space in front/behind, but when the table is parked, it doesn't take up much room at all. I also have that parallel rip guide, but I just don't have clearance in my shop to use it. If I had that, I may not use the regular rip fence as much. You can move that support table anywhere along the sliding table, but the support arm won't go with it the full distance. Your F&F jig is nice. I ended up buying the (overpriced) one through Felder, only because there was no other way to get those clamps it comes with. I really like those clamps. The more powerful cam clamps get super rusty in my shop. Limitations: things like tenoning jigs are more of a challenge on the slider. The fence is different, and there are no miter slots on the cast iron. That's not something I normally do, though. BTW, I talked to my rep. I think I'm going to order one of those diamond blades. I still can't believe the finish coming off that. The only thing they mentioned is, unlike carbide, they can't sharpen those locally; they have to go back to Austria for sharpening. Thanks again for making me aware of that blade!
Now that was a complete explanation of your saw Gilbert, It is a beautiful piece of equipment and it fits you to a T. Has a lot to do with preset ion and the ease of producing a finish and perfect product in the end.... Well done and by the way.... The suit make this a professional video I think, like you father said.....he had only seen you with a dress up like that, on your wedding day.....well done.....CHEERS
As I sit here watching this video, a man in a suit normally does not get my attention. But you did. Your knowledge of what you own is very impressive. A man that uses his "tools" knows his "tools. Getting ready to build my wood shop, 30' x 40'. Yes, running Felder. Was looking at the K700s as the saw for my shop. Along with a few other Felder items. A few questions if, I might? 1.) The dust collections system you are using, who made it? 2.) The power supply, I'm assuming it's 240v, single phase? 3.) What was the wait time on your Felder products? 4.) How did you get it home? 5.) What did you get the F & F jig setup? Thank you kindly. consider me a subscriber. ScottishxPride, Tx.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aoAPVQ2sqMc.html See my video how I made my F and F jig. Dust collection Nord Fab Yes 240v single phase 30 Amp They had the saw in stock so no wait time Felder made all the arrangements for delivery then the next day they send the technician over to set up the saw. My shop is also 30’ X 40’ Thank You for the compliment. I almost never wear a suit. Just did that to generate comments. Lol Good luck
good video, love the suit. i have a Martin slider, and i wouldn't trade it for anything. if you want a nice upgrade, look to Mac Campshire's pneumatic clamps - makes a world of difference and well worth the money.
Thank you. Yes I heard good things about the Martin slider. And I heard about the Mac clamp. This guy on RU-vid called Steve I think he has the Mac clamp
I knew this guy was not a real wood worker because he does not have a Tie. 😂 lol. Thanks for the review. The sad fact that all American tablesaws are made in China or Taiwan leaves a bad taste in my mouth from wanting to purchase one. But this Felder has sparked my interest in owning a sliding European table saw.
I bought a MiniMax si315 elite s and it does everything that Felder can do for half the price. Plus I didn't need a technician to come put it together, I did everything myself and more. I even made improvements to the saw better than what MiniMax did. I and a electronic friend installed on/off switch on the end of the slider like yours , works great. I love mine! .Also I do have a new cabinet table saw that is great for cutting small pieces of wood, and I still use a festool miter saw. I like how clean your workshop is and the painted floor, same as mine, your a clean woodworker I like that. Very nice shop you have.
I have exactly the same saw in the UK you seem a nice person but you don’t use the saw to it’s full potential, you certainly do not need those Kreg attachments you can do everything either off the cross cut fence or the ripping fence. Have a look at how these table saws are used in Europe, once you get used to it you will find it’s far quicker to process panels the way it’s intended to be used. I have the table saw, planer thicknesser, spindle moulded Bandsaw and dust extraction unit all by Felder, yes there expensive but they are top of the range and a joy to use. Note never seen a bloke in a suit on a table saw, unless he was a rep stay safe and enjoy that lovely machine.
I'm not sure if you have three phase power so this may be a mute point but if your saw is single phase it is really important to hold the start button down for about three seconds before releasing to let the saw get to full speed. If you just hit the button when you start it you will be putting a new capacitor in it about every six months. If it is a three phase saw I don't believe this is an issue.
Great review! I keep my eyes open for a used sawstop or a small Euro slider. I have not seen one up close yet but from videos like yours I can see how a Euro slider is more accurate, repeatable, safe than a traditional cabinet saw. I own an old General cabinet saw and I am always using push sticks and jigs to get the job done.
New Sub :) I switched from my PM66 to the KF700SP 5 or 6 years ago and will attest that everything you said is 100% true. Love this thing. Also: like your little “garage box” in the slider - have to do that. You know that you can rotate the rip fence 90 deg for a lower profile, right? Still works great as a stop; doesn’t get in the way of the dust collector hood as much. Triple-check the alignment of your riving knife with your blade. Even a few thou off can push panels away from the CC fence and take them slightly out of square. Brass shim stock is the only way to correct but worth it if you’re out.
Amazing video thank you for this, I’m most likely going to be getting the K700 as I don’t usually rip sheets bigger than the 4x8 plywood. Can you give us some info on the power requirements for this saw? Thanks again
Wow, you clean up nice Gilbert, lol.. Man, what a nice system.. Been looking forward to this review.. Learned alot.. So many cool features. I was wondering if you would stop using the miter saw, but didnt think you would sell it, lol. That speaks to the versatility of this sliding table saw.. Thanks for taking the time to do this.. Cant wait to see what you make next !
Never seen a tool review in a business suit before, well done. First time viewing your channel I will be back. From your accent I would guess you're from the Maritimes?
So many of those elements are much better on the Altendorf, like moving the crosscut fence forwards which takes half the time. Trouble is that it is much more expensive. And good luck keeping those slide table rollers clean
Having had a Felder 714 combination machine I can vouch for their build quality. But I have to take issue with his describing the dial option on the height adjustment, he only told half the benefit. Those adjustment wheels ALL have the same thread pitch and one complete revolution is 2mm, so if you need to adjust height by say 7mm, you just rotate dial 3 1/2 revolutions, saves so much time. If you require absolute precision you can eyeball the pointer between the smallest lines to achieve an accuracy of 1/100 mm. Of course being wood, it won't stay at that!!
I like the video, the workshop and the way you presented the Felder sliding saw in suit like a prime minister👍😬 Would you please explain more why you sold your miter saw? wouldn't be more handy than this saw in miter angles?
Now I understand why you don't need the Format 4 with the PCS system. Safety is built in since you never need to get close to the blade. Spotted your benchtop drill press in the background. Since you prefer quality tools, have you had a look at the Nova Voyager by Teknatools? Sold in Canada by King. If you consider it I would suggest the Voyager over the Viking.
Del pal I love my general 350. From new in 2005, it’s been amazing. Nothing been done to it. That’s a testament to the quality. And my shop is going everyday most of the time.
hello great video thank you very much for your time, I wish I could have the help of the cabinetmaker community, I am undecided between a SCM si nova 400 and the Felder k 700S for my new workshop. I have the experience of having worked with the SCM si nova 400 for 2.5 years and with the format4 for 1.5 years, but I have never seen a k 700S. Thanks to everything and prosperity.
Ne again, did you opt for a scoring unit? If not, did you regret it? Your blade seems to be a nice cut without! What motor did you choose? Standard 4kw? Would you upgrade? Finally did you get Dado Option? Thank you so much!
Felder saw is one of the best but Altendorf and Martin are perhaps even better quality than Felder. I think Martin and Altendorf only come in 3 stage though.
Glad my video helped you. So hard to find RU-vid videos on sliding table saws. It blows me away when I see a RU-vid that has 200k of equipment in there shop and they don’t even have a sliding table saw. In my opinion it’s the most important tool.
Having problems with my machine. It was running great for about a year. Recently it has been shutting off after about 10 minutes of use! Anyone experiencing this issue!?
That a series piece of kit, would of thought the blade adjusting wheel would of been automated with a digital measuring reader, but I guess if it was perfect then there would never be a reason to upgrade.
Great shop and review! I noticed you have the jointer/planer combo in which i‘m interested in. Is the Manual crank for the thicknessplaner alright or did you regret not going for the motorized version? Greetings
@@frenchriversprings Thx for your help! I have another question if you don’t mind. Do you have the standard motor? 400v and 3kw? Did you ever need more? Do you know the biggest size blade which will still retract completely under the table? Also you have the fixed 4800rpm? Thx so much! Franz
Hello, thanks for sharing, this is such a useful and functional sliding table saw. I'm setting up my workshop in Saskatoon and wish to get one like this. Can I get I for on how to get one like this. Thanks.
Well I did it! I joined the “Felder family”. My new K 700 S has been officially ordered and will be here in October! I’m pretty damn excited! Went full power automation and digital on everything, but the rip fence. Wanted to ask you when your standing in front of the saw, just below the rip fence sliding bar, is there an area to slip a pallet jack under the machine? How did you move it around to set it in the location you have yours in now? Thank You.
So excited for you. Congratulations! Yes there is a place to put a pallet jack but it has to be a narrow one. I used my farm tractor with the forks. My tractor barely fit tru the garage door.
@@frenchriversprings ah okay, narrow set then. Any chance, when you have time, could you tell me what that measurement spread is under the saw. That would be much appreciated! Thx
I don’t think it’s worth the money. So easy to lift and tilt the blade. Unless I had to tilt the blade 20 times a day then maybe. Also it’s another thing that can break. The technician told me that my saw is the one that almost never break down. The only thing that usually needs to be replaced is the computer for the blade brake. Needs to be changed every six years under heavy use. The only thing I wish I could get for my saw is the micro adjust on the cross cut fence. I do have it on the ripping fence thought.
Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the exact thing just something expensive that will break. I’m currently cutting twenty plus sheets a day with a track saw and cabinet saw. I’m very ready for the upgrade. As far as sheet good and heavy panels does the saw handle it well? Is there any opinions you wish you had gotten in hindsight? Thanks
Yes it handles the sheet well. Very happy with my saw. The only thing I suggest is getting that extra table that hooks up to the side of the sliding table. Also comes with the ruler. Really nice to rip long peices of plywood and keep the exact width each end. Ya Before my K700S I did same as you. Track saw and cabinet saw. You will be able to double your production easy and more accurate.
@@frenchriversprings Thanks for the information. One other question, how tall is the blade guard at the extreme right hand edge of the saw? I was going to place it with the right side against a wall but I have some upper cabinets there now. Need to know if I should plan to raise those cabinets.
Could you measure one more thing for me? On that saw, it’s possible to pick it up with a pallet jack by sliding the jack under the saw body from the end. What’s the width of that opening? Wondering if a regular pallet jack will do it or if a narrow jack is needed.
Hello, nice video. Thank you Question, I like to do mortise and tenon joinery, is the machine able to make tenon’s. Currently I use a Delta tenon jig ?
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YwO9GVOpml4.html This video should answer your question. I just use a dado blade on my sliding table saw to make tenons
in germany/europe, Felder is sometimes regarded as a „second class“ brand, while first class would be Martin and Altendorf. Felder is more common in carpentry shops (guys who build houses), while Altendorf and Martin are used by furniture makers/joiners because of their crazy accuracy and comfort features. but compared to those little „cabinet saws“ like Sawstop etc, Felder is VASTLY superior and very high quality
@@tundrawhisperer4821 I have never seen a SCM machine up close, but simply going by the prices of those machines, they seem to be very high quality as well. I also see a lot of older SCM machines being sold for good money as well, so they seem to hold up over time just as Altendorf etc.
I’m curious why you don’t have three control buttons on the back of the carriage bed? Felder has two green buttons, one for main blade, one for scorer blade, and red button for off. And so this is what they call the 3200mm sliding table? When you want to slide the outrigger table down the slider bed, can you leave the cross cut fence in place while sliding it down? Thx
@@frenchriversprings okay, then they have reconfigured how they power the two blades now. The sales person sent me a picture describing now the end carriage has a three button set up now, and no need to flip a switch at the main base of the machine. I’m getting my pricing dialed in now. Do you think you’ll do a comparison video, overhead guard versus no guard? Thx
not worth the money the felder saw k700s with all the accessories i bought was almost 20k i had an older sawstop table saw for three years and it never gave me any problems which was about 3k the felder table saw is very nice everything is great except for the motor the motor is bad and gets too hot to use ive been calling customer service every day for a solution for a year now and they tell me i should only use it for every six minutes and then let it cool down and whenever i ask about someone to come change the motor, they just tell me someone will call me back and nobody ever does (customer service that weren’t of any help to me were chad, connor, and justin) if anybody’s planning to buy this saw it’s not worth it
Does your Felder slider run on a single phase 230v? If so, then you have a 30 amp breaker, right? When you start the machine up, is there any hesitation to it at all or is it pretty much instant start up of the blade? Also, when not using the saw and you want to lock it in the center position of the saw unit, is this locked position pretty much sitting center of the blade or center of the 6’ body section of the slider support frame? Thank You
Not center of blade but center of body. 30 Amp single phase. The saw pretty much starts instantly. When you push the green start button, you have to keep it pushed for 1 sec or so. My dust collector takes a little longer. About 4 sec
@@frenchriversprings with these sliders being such versatile machines, where you can crosscut and rip various materials, which blade brand/model are you running as your everyday blade? Thx
I only use my diamond blade. Does a beautiful job on any sheet goods and crosscut and rip cut 2 inch thick hard maple like butter. But I did pay $700 for the blade. I did make a video on it.
It appears you're a one-man shop - how do you justify the exorbitant cost of something so industrial-grade when you are likely the bottleneck in production speeds? It would make sense if you have employees and can keep the saw running for 12 hours a day straight...because as you surely know, it's not making money unless its running. I make no assumptions about your business but I would imagine that it will take a lot of jobs to recoup the cost of that slider.
Yes I’m a one man shop. Another reason to get that saw. It increases my productivity drastically. I’m getting pretty busy so the saw should pay for itself in 18 months I think
I'm British, and our health and safety would say wearing a tie in a workshop is a hazard... Colin Furze has this problem solved already with the safety tie
Could you tell me the overall width of this saw from left to right? So furthest point of outrigger fence to the other side. I need to check my shop space again.
Download the Felder Big catalog from the Felder USA site. They have floor footprints for each saw in there. Note that you have lots of options for configuring these, and some of those change the footprint. You don't just buy a K700S. You need to pick the size for various fences, rip fence, table capacity, etc.
@@Psychlist1972 I went back into their site, but no luck with any footprint drawings outlining dimensions. I’ll need to contact the sales rep I was talking to a while back. What outrigger table did you go with, 1300 or 1500? Can you use your own dado blades or do you have to buy a Felder made dado set? Also, did you pay for an on site tech set up service? Thx
@@tundrawhisperer4821 Like I said, it's in their big catalog. In the case of the USA site, you go to their e-shop and then the catalogs are in the left-side nav bar. You can use any dado set that has the Felder bore in the middle. I chose to use the Felder grooving set. You can't use regular US ones unless you get them rebored. My outrigger sits in the corner of my shop because I don't have room for it. It's the 1300, IIRC. Instead, I use a shorter fence and a support at the other end of the table. This is specifically because of the room available in my shop. I didn't have any on-site support. I assembled it myself. It was well-configured from the factory.
@@frenchriversprings actually, now I think I remember my sales lady that I working with at Felder say, you get the heavy duty Format 4 cross cut fence when you order the digital flip stops. I’m getting closer to putting my deposit down on this same K 700 S. Your feed back and review videos have been incredibly helpful for me. Thank you very much for doing these!
Your welcome. Yes I asked about buying the digital flip stop and the salesperson said I could not get it for my saw. But then said if I wanted it I would have to buy the format 4 crosscut assembly and the whole thing would cost me about 6k. I found a company that sells the digital flip stop for my saw. It’s called the dro flipstop sold by lamb tool works. $1200 USD. It looks very nice but does not have the micro adjust like the one on the format 4.
@@frenchriversprings wow, it is expensive to live in Canada! I have two options for digital flips stops. I can get one for now with the heavy duty fence for $1,640. And upgrade to a second, right handed flip stop later. Which gets you even closer to the blade. Or I can order two digital flips stops for $2,490. I’m going to opt for the one flips stop for now, and get a right handed one later. I ended up getting the Power Drive set up as well with height and angle movements. My build is coming in at $16,840
I will have to talk to my salesman. Maybe he tough that I have to buy the whole carriage and sliding table and not just the fence. In Canada it usually cost 35% more than in the USA
