Good video Tim, I use a hybrid design for end assemblies. Instead of a plate kit I use a half length post and an extra clamp. It's a bit cheaper and you get twice as much post in the ground. Tip: use a post clamp as a guide to cut the peined end of the post off with your angle grinder. There's no way you got that cap on top of the post by tapping it with your claw hammer. 🤔
What is the diameter of those steel posts? I haven’t seen such a big post rammer here in nz, but I guess the one I use for Waratahs/star pickets wouldn’t be big enough.
Thanks Tim, that was a brilliant video. I have been there with the timber posts and have broken plenty of my fingernails scrapping the post hole clean of rocks. If I ever do another fence, it will be with Steele posts.🤣
When I was young, I always had the job of cleaning out the base of the hole with an old dog food can. Steel is definitely quicker and easier, but the timber wins for looks every day of the week.
Around here the soil is sandy and many fencers use a double box to try to prevent the strainer post being jacked out. I wonder how well the steel assembly would go after 10 or 15 years?
Absolutely. Soil expands and contracts. Moves away from the concrete plug that doesn’t. (Post fall down go ow). That’s why apart from gateways and yards, concrete is rarely used in agricultural fencing. Compacted soil is often superior in performance.
Hi Tim, another great video but when I look up whites rural end assemblies. They are different on there website to the one you have ,and not as good. Where did you get yours from? Have you tested out all the different models of end assemblies? They would be hard to top that steel one for quick and ease of use. Cheers
They have a couple of different kinds. It’s definitely a product that they sell. Your local whites stockist should be able to order them for you. whitesrural.com.au/posts/end-assembly/stockpost-end-assembly-brace-kit-details.html
The steel end assemblies usually have the cross rail on an angle. Why don't you do this with the timber posts as well? We found them much more stable compared to the typical H assembly.
Depends. I'm planning a video on testing end assembly weak points. The timber stay end assemblies can be OK, but there are tricks. A good well driven Box assembly is one of the strongest timber designs there is. It'll be a while till I get it done as what I'm planning is a bit complex.... Wish me luck.
Hi Tim, have you done any reviews on FSP pvc star pickets? If not would be great to see one, been after an alternative to steel to eliminate shorts with electric fences and the need for insulators. Also i believe there is someone distributing Timeless pvc T posts in oz now, a comparison between the two would be interesting. Cheers
Gday Tim, curious about the tension of the wire on the box end assembly. To what rating (kN) did you strain the wire? I tend to use gripples to allow extra straining if needed. Love the extra set of hands! My go to is an f clamp or similar.
If the wood is not treated its going to go pretty quick? I have gal star pickets in water still going strong with supposed iron bark being held up by the mud and termite spit binding it all together.
Depends on where you are. Some areas, like the Hunter Valley still use a lot of hardwood. Down here in the Yarra Valley, the posts are doing really well too.
Quick question, with all the work needed to put up the end strainers, what would be your minimum run for stock fence? I’ve just done a 5m run, and it strained up ok, but when tied off and released, looked like I hadn’t even tried to strain the wire. Ended up using gripples to tighten it. Should have used rails?
Hi, I'm using 100×100 hardwood post for chain wire. Fence sections are around 30m long. I am intending to use another 100×100 post on an angle concreted into the ground for the end assembly. In my lack of experience, do you think that single brace will be ok or I setting myself up for problems when the wires are strained. should I do a box end assembly instead?
@@mrsmeganwilson Let me know how you go. There are some other guys too.... Or you could just get one made. It's just 120X120 square tube with a plate welded at the top and some handles.
Man, I wish I could pound posts like that, just by watering them! Our ground here in BC Canada, has a LOT of rots and gravel... Thanks for this video, Tim!
Thank you so much for this updated video on box end assembly Tim. It's been extremely helpful and I think I am finally ready to start my goat fencing project😊
@@FarmLearningTim So I've herd, lol🤣 One UK fencing guy recommended an 8ft fence to keep them in... I am hoping an electric top line will help but only time will tell, I suppose🙄🐐🐐🐐
Very hard to test. I have a couple of videos on this in the can already that I have not released. The reason is complex, soil type, location, situation. All these play a part. I am doing a third test video soon with John Pickard that will hopefully sort a few things out. My leaning at the moment is to steel. Then stay for some situations, box for others. Hopefully I can deominstrate why well enough to finally release a video on this topic!
Timber typically cheaper, but highly variable and depends on prices and location. Also depends on how you measure your time. That’s why I avoid prices like the plague. Out of date quickly and regionally irrelevant.
