Fences (2016) - I Ain't Got to Like You Scene (2/10) | Movieclips 

Wow im really sorry

Troy never received love so he does not know how to give it

Fman1292 Bro what?

@Fman1292 💪you're a smart warrior bro. Keep it up, respect from a 17 yo British kid

Sorry to hear that man

LMAO

😂

Lmfao I’m howling

Is your dad Hobbs from 'Hobbs and Shaw'? Cuz that's literally the only time I heard someone say that.

@@Marcvelous3 I don't know who that is I first heard it from my dad... when I slammed the fridge after grabbing a tasty treat and was too excited.

Now that I'm grown I feel I'm friends with my parents. Ofc the respect is still there, but we have talks on certain subj tht we wud have never discussed when I was a child. Such as family tea

Respect

That's a true father

@@A_NotesThat’s a great line and a great way to view fatherhood. I’m gonna use that with my future kids.

​@A_Notes you find out a lot about your uncles divorce after that 18th birthday party😅

Shut up foo

I mean....yeah. Thats how family is. Theres is NO ONE anyone will meet in life that they like all the time. II have three siblings that I love to death, but that love is strong because we still care about each other even during the times we want to punch one another.

Exactly. "Like" and "love" are not the same thing, and you don't need to like someone to love them, that goes for anybody. I don't even always like someone I consider a friend, but I sure will always love them as a friend. Likewise, I can't say I always even like my parents, but it is both my duty and personal pleasure to love them. As cliche as it is, "love is a verb" is true. It's a voluntary choice, not based on fleeting emotions (that's called infatuation). With that said, I think this kid's question about whether or not his dad "liked" him isn't what he's actually asking. It's his young, juvenile way of trying to ask if his father loves and cares about him as a person, and his father pretty firmly denied him that positive affirmation and approval that he along with every boy needs and seeks from his father and or male role models (it's why a lack of a positive father figure is so detrimental to the development of boys and young men in society). It's not for a parent to be their child's "friend" in the way that their child is friends with their peers, though there is a diffference between being "friends/peers" and being friendly as a general attitude (and it is entirely appropriate to be friends when that child is a grown if you've raised your kid into a well-adjusted adult), but what you should do for them is to make sure that they know they are loved and that you care about them and their welbeing as a person. Doing the bare minimum to honor one's parental responsibilities by simply putting food on the table, clothes on their back and a roof over their head is not the same as being a good parent. Like Denzel said, that part is his job as a parent and a father. That's like demanding to be made employee of the month when you only do just enough work to stay employed or if you hope to be made validictorian as a C-student.

Or I love you but I didn't like what you just did.

@@Tyler_W you're absolutely right.

True, but they are still a whole lot better than parents that choose not to supply any of those things for their kids.

It’s crazy how much I can see it both ways

Unfortunately, a stoic man considers providing to be his expressed way of loving. Men tend to demonstrate, not say..

he gave it to him , by being a dad, taking care of him , teaching him to become a man . He should him way beyond love

@@johndouglascross you can’t not like someone and love them at the same time, what are you talking about?

Criminal records mattery very little in sports

His son doesn't care if anyone likes him, he cares if his FATHER likes him. Big difference. If Troy would've LISTENED to the question instead of HEARING it he would've understood.

Gary Mcguckin Thank you Gary. He was horrible. Point blank. The devil didn't deserve a father this bad, ignorant or mean.

Well, it’s his dad we are talking about

This is different. This is his father. As a father you're supposed to love your child no matter what.

No shame in that bro. Your dad's a good man.

Same but I was 17

And I bet that had more value than just mindlessly saying it every day.

@@dinolover very true

Jesus.

Any smart young man should know that words are not enough. Back in the days men married women and no one talked about love. Treat her right, take care of the home and the kids, respect her and she is submissive. They built strong relationships and lived till death did them part. Now after the first date we start saying i love you and within weeks the relationship is over. Why did love not sustain them?

@@derekngum4675 Submissive? Sorry man, Marriage is an equal pact. Submissive went away with the 50's. Your head is in the right place until you said submissive.

@@derekngum4675 people didn't talk about love because they were being guilt-tripped into not doing so and insecure about it. And stayed together because it was damn near impossible to get a divorce and if you did, you were a social pariah, especially in the upper classes.

​@@RJSierraThat's exactly why women are the way they are today. Lol

@@derekngum4675yeah we got a redditor over here who wants a submissive kitten. 🤣💀💀

a name Ong

You arent very smart if thats what you took from the scene...

Exactly

agree 100% 👍🏼

True but try to pay attention to the scene more and you will understand

I'd say fallen is my favorite of his.

General Zod nobody cares bud😭

@@supbape apparently, you did enough to comment.

@@supbape i care

supbape you must have forgotten this was a public comment section bud

Totally agree i just seen it for the first time today, and this scene just doesn’t have the gravity of the play. Denzel was amazing but Earl Jones was next level 😮

He knows why. He knows. But it's too late to fix it.

Because he don't like me either.

As long as he's doing his duty, who cares.

@The Duke Of Flem All I'm saying is that Troy would 1 million percent disagree with you.

He never answered his question either. “Why don’t you like me?”

My favorite actor is Leonardo dicaprio...i can literally say I've seen almost all his movies and loved them all... however, denzel might be 2nd to me. He's fantastic.

Denzel the man

Clandestine Comments it’s a good character!! 😉

@@Rican_VII They're definitely two great actors but every time I watch their films I see them still, I don't see the character they play. Al Pacino in the other end embodies the characters with an accent and everything as if they really exists. Only my observation

控え目 I never said anything about anybody’s skin color. That was you. I like this mans acting. I like his dialogue in movies. I also like his morals as a person as well as the morality of the characters he plays. One of my favorite actors and I feel like a good person. Am I allowed to have that opinion?!

You mean... Key 15 *WORDS*

Malik Aubrey 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

Yeah thats the point. But my god that kid is gonna become a miserable person when he gets older.

Malik Aubrey yep

That’s not a word

Wait till the kids older to say that. He already knows it because of what his dad has provided to him.

@@PokerIsLife13the issue is that he doesn’t KNOW if his father likes or loves him, that’s why he asked.

It’s not that easy sometimes, my pops never had to say I love you. Ik he loves me. Some people don’t even have a pops like Troy that will even take care of them. Troy was trying his best as a dad. Since his dad was terrible towards him he doesn’t really know how to show love

@@gupmalihorrible outlook. Sorry, just is.

AMEN.

Yuuuppp very true

he thought he was doing the best that he could which ended up being the worst that he could

Was this what happened in the movie?

@@dh3940 yea

The tough thing about it is how the parents respond, and it seems to change our expectations at first on how it will go. But the only reason why some kids do this is because they feel so down on themselves on how their parents may look at them, so they want answers that can relive all that negativity weighing down on them, their self-worth. They are kids growing up dealing with their own problems. They just want some assurance that that they are loved. Sure the world have cruel people and they can't worry about people like that who may use and abuse them. But when it comes to support, that will be brought up as a result of someone's wavering self-esteem. I have to keep me mind of Troy's psyche, as his mother left him with lies and his father was abusive. That can get into a person's mind, and they lived based on how the child lived around it as they grow up. Cory didn't know at the time as he sees Troy always so angry.

This is why our kids are messed up today, we as parents try to be our kids friend and not they parent ..he clearly explained to him life..its not about likes ..get a girl u want someone to like u

@@dbdh1358 Bro. There's a balance though. You can't treat your child like he's a damn pet. He has some good points, but damn is it too much to show your child some love?

Db* Dh preach that’s my grandfather talking to my dad and he stumbled in life but I got that same message as my dad without my grandfather saying not one of does words .......... it’s was all about his actions

The word his sone used is "Like" though. Theres a huge difference in liking someone and loving someone.

Difficult. Viola Davis was amazing in this as well. Stole a little of his Oscar thunder I'd say. Honestly, I thought Casey Affleck definitely deserved it as well. His performance in "Manchester by the Sea" was something special.

It wasn't a Good enough performance bc he came off as an unloving Dad to His own child. Its a sick thing and very wrong for Dads to be unloving.

John Akridge but the movie has good messages in it.

John Akridge that shows how good he played the role. You are not supposed to Like him in this movie, and you seem to fall right for it

Denzel Washington: The coolest dude ever born.

And you knew he loves you by providing for you and doing right by you.

True. Me, as a half white half Asian guy, Denzel is just my most favorite actor of all time. He is straight at the top of my list. He is just solid and so incredibly charismatic and versatile and fantastic at everything. And never would I ever get tired of him. He is really a gem. A really really big fan!!

@@Izaan2810 - I and, other black people, are very proud of him as an actor. He, too, is perhaps my favorite actor. Yes, he is very versatile and, usually, takes only good roles. He’s at that status where he can pick the truly good roles that he desires. Also, I am watching his son because I can see a fine actor, taking after his famous father. Only time will really tell, of course. I will continue to watch them both because, I know, that whatever role that they do will be fascinating. Peace.

@@darincampbell467 True. A really big fan of both of their work. John David is just getting better and better each movie and is legit killing it. He is definitely making his dad proud and would continue to nail it. Denzel is really THE pride of cinema with his incredible talent and intelligence. Peace, my friend.

@@Izaan2810 - Good points! Peace to you!

Ikr i hope some of the people in this comment section never have kids lmao

You’re lucky to have a father like that

@@emmanuelyasi8020 I know

I wish my Dad was still here to hug me.

@@origamipein18 for the last time i ain't yo dad fool!!! The DNA test said that there was only a 2% chance i was not yo dad and 2% is a big number!!!

“Yes sir”

This is the takeaway.

That’s the part where he actually swtiches to ”yes, I like you” but didn’t say it because he felt the need to teach him a lesson about how life works

@@sutsutsii7487 would’ve been better if he said yes and then proceeded with the lesson. Smh some people have issues expressing love.

People bypass this and think he’s a bad father but is missing the education he’s bestowing onto his son. He clearly loves his child he’s training him for the world the real world , he’d thank his father in the future if it was real

They both should've won. Not just Viola.

Exactly. Plus this is out of context. If you see everything that led to this and what happens ever, you get a whole idea of who this guy is and it is not good.

THANK YOU. someone with a brain in these comments.

Unfortunately they fell victim to this kind of parenting, and the cycle of abuse will continue

That's how it should be.

Depends on the person, there’s no guide when parenting naturally. The way you parent is based on your OWN instinct and consideration with how your parents raised you.

I'm afraid you didn't understand the movie right. It's not about 'tough love', it's about 'tough' period. There's no love in that guy's heart, for better or worse.

U sound spoiled. A child should be happy to at least have a parent doing right by them. So many deadbeat parents. Liking a child is a luxury to the child and an option to the parent.

@TCT usually because of culture, including the female partner and/or family wanting a kid. In this case, she likely wanted the kid. So she can like the kid, but the father’s responsibility is to do right by the kid (including both parents making sure kid grows right, so i lost you there). Worse is there are parents that’ll say i love u but dont do jack for the kid. Those are the kids who get confused and messed up.

what law says that??? LOL!

But the thing is denzel said he loved him but in a roundabout way. My grandpa was the same way as denzel, never said he loved me etc. but at the end of his life he made sure I knew he loved me mentally, verbally, spiritually, everything

Son: Needs to listen and read between lines Father: Needs to understands that Mr WRAN will promote him to Director if he works hard enough Mr WRAN : doesn't like father but can recognise hard work. Moral: Son needs to use the education father has given him and apply for a job with Mr WRAN as fathers line manager...🤣

I think Denzels character felt trapped by his life. He felt limited even though he had a good wife and family. That's why he cheated. It's hard to show genuine love to someone you see as an obligation and not a gift.

@@kevinjackson7125 he is showing love. He not giving no stranger this lecture bc he dont care about a stranger. He telling his so this bc he love him. Trust me I all men in my life was the same way

Yeah. Both are really good, but I like James Earl Jones' delivery better. Troy's characterworks as a bitter old man who only cares about his job.

@@j.leonardo260Yea but I don’t think that makes his character interesting that way. I believe it’s more interesting when your character has shades of grey. In this scene Denzel has a point but is going about it wrong

And that, is one of the greatest ways that you can honor your father. Live life, Love yourself & others, & with every decision you make, make it with wisdom. GOD BLESS YOU.

Posting a RU-vid comment at a funeral? Nice way to respect your dad.

@@homage1208, Its a "Funeral Wake", not a Funeral, learn the difference. I keep watch over his coffin at night all throughout till the morning rise. No one else is around here, I am the only one to stay awake and keep watch over him. What do you expect me to do, stare into nothingness everyday? I search in the internet for things that reminds me of him, and now you say things as if you know me and that I don't respect my father. You're the one disrespectful here.

@@homage1208, nice way to respect the mourners idiot.

Bro you posted this on the James Earl Jones stage version of this. How long you babysitting this corpse for?

Here🤚 and Anthony nailed it on the head. It affected my childhood. Im liking his comment for that.

@Toxic Grunt yeah right, theres definitely great men out there that were just raised by there mothers.

Mike Conville what was the point?

Mike Conville I don’t know why but you seem a lil salty...

Mike Conville I never said you weren’t I just said that you seemed salty. Interesting...

And by no he means HELL no

@Trav true my dad tried that preach crap with me many times never did it work typical

It wasnt a yes or no question though Son - " how come you ain't never like me?" Father - "no" that would of made no sense

🤣

Real N 😂😂

It's great that it pops up on tge recommended videos. Same source material but interpreted differently by two wonderful actors.

JEJ performance was melodramatic. Denzel's seems so realistic it turns your stomach.

@kimanih6903 melodramatic?? Are you kidding me, my friend?? The legendary James Earl jones work is beyond extraordinary!! His acting range matches the heavy demands of a role that is virtually classic in its emotional compass. Jones, many moods extend from reflective musings and high good humor to bullying sarcasm and explosive rage. Mr. Jones responds equally to the mystical elements!! Now, don't get me wrong, Denzel's performance off Broadway and to the big screen speaks for itself!! But to say it's melodramatic is a little off base and honestly quite wrong!!

asdf qwerty That’s how it is for me. I have no relationship with my father. And I really don’t want one.

Did you starve at home?

@asdf.....I get and understand why and how you felt, but did you tell your father....WHY?

@@NikephorosCaesar being a parent is more then feeding your child.

Honestly Denzels character is just saying that stuff cause he's disappointed that his son doesn't realize all of his hard work is because he loves him. He really wanted him to say "because you love me." But since the son didn't say the dad made it seem like only does it cause he has to.

You’re obviously an awesome Dad. Nice one 👍

Beautiful

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Much love to ur family ❤

Respect to you! Kids are the most honest people in the world. Anything they say is truth.

Who are the other two?

@@marcdieubon6267 al pacino

@@ninoino8519 they're my two favorites

Top 6 not in Order : Daniel Day Lewis Gary Oldman Joaquin Phoenix Denzel Washington Al Pacino & De Niro

@@buntaii9878 where is marlon Brando ?

This father showed no love whatsoever

Not hope. Make sure

@@Samsonight33 your just repeating what the the comment just said lol dummy

@@jcherrax he was adding to the quote, the thought and the discussion -- and you added nothing. who's the dummy?

@@jcherrax comment was clearly edited lol

@@IrregularPineapples your moms the dummy 😎

Having to justify why you don't like someone is also not a law. He doesn't owe the kid anything but gives him everything he has available to him. If his son can't see that it is true love his father has for him then he is just being ungrateful.

@Conrad Ferrus Glad to hear your perspective on it, though the way you read a situation is more about you and your personal experience in life, as is mine.

Conrad Ferrus guess so

@@romeosra i dont think its a weird interpretation for the boy to see his fathers actions as being done out of duty and not out of love. In fact, isnt that what he directly says? That he is only doing his duty as a father putting food on the table for him.

@@hakon7269 what is love but a night at the Roxbury.

This

Factz, if he didn't LOVE his son he wouldn't have said anything except get the hell out of my face. But he loves him enough to give him the REAL and teach his son a Priceless lesson in Life its self.

He teaches him to become a dysfunctional adult

​@@SavageKEThat's not love, buddy. That's the bare minimum. Like he said, it's an obligation to him. Trust his word.

@@pig9412he a put him out if he didn’t like his son dude, he said he works hard to feed him

Yep

That’s the exact opposite of what he said.

Facts

@@TheAngryBadger3 in black folks terminology that clearly SAYS SON I LOVE U!

"Pride goeth before fall"

Suwoop

You are a good dad

You’re a great dad.

One thing I can say about my father rest his soul he taught me game a lot of game about life and how cold and cruel it can be but he was somebody I could talk to you make me feel like s*** when I asked him a question about life for for advice there's some fathers who take the disciplinarian role too far sure you got in still responsibility and discipline but some people just let it go to their head like I said my father taught me a lot of game and he just had conversations with me a lot of boys just want to be able to talk to their dad about experiences so they can learn

Very well said. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Well said

Why should it have to get to that point though?

Joshi The Yoshi Ik that but my dad was never like that

Welp welcome to the new era where "my fee fees" rule everything........

It's what make ppl act so fake, just so they can be liked

A Friendly Hobo Yeah well at least his father is being honest

A Friendly Hobo wym? The son asked if his dad LIKED him. Big difference between liking and loving someone. You could love someone without liking them.

Your*

I am you are father 😂

I tell me daughter that when she says that I’m mean. 😂 I say, “I’m not here for you to like me, I’m here to be your mother and protect you”.

It's weird seeing "you're" used incorrectly hahaha

Super Duty 455 Lol

DudeDad the whole point of this scene is that Denzel doesn’t like his son because he LOVES him. Hence all the stuff about breaking his back to support him and make sure he never wants for anything.

@@BuddhaBless328 Don't worry, that'll be lost on most. And in the James Earl Jones version when he says "make sure people do right by you" he pulls the child in and plants a hand on his chest and another on his shoulder in a loving way. He spends the entire time telling him to get over being liked and know who does right by you, sending home the message he is loved. It'll take a child years to get it but they'll never forget it.

@@BuddhaBless328 - No. It's not love he's expressing. It's obligation. There was nothing loving in that speech. Troy was not a man who was loved in his own childhood, so where would he get that from? What he's talking about in that scene is transactional. "I'm doing what I'm supposed to do." That's not love.

BuddhaBless328 No. He even uses the example of his boss giving him the paycheck because it’s his duty further implementing the fact that he doesn’t do the things he does for his son because he loves him. He does it because that’s the unspoken but agreed upon transaction that was made. You came from me into this world so I will take care of you because it’s my duty.

@@BuddhaBless328 That has no correlation if the reason the dad is doing all of these things is because he loves him.

You sound like a great father Carlos. I hope the best for you and your family!

That’s so sweet... I know you must be an amazing father

Well done Carlos for breaking that cycle. Bravo

Breaking that cycle. Ain't easy but neccessary.

You echoing my life man!

I just saw the clip with Jones and it was even better, and I'm a fan of both of them

James Earl Jones is a stern dad while Denzel Washington is a pathetic dad. Two sides of the same deadbeat coin, both are fantastic.

I think Earl's delivery was better. Denzel's feels too rushed, almost no pauses, words don't seem have the same impact. It's like he's supposed to be educating his son, letting the words sink in, but it feels like he just hastily recites his lines with a bit of "Denzel" thrown on top.

Eiind Yeah, that JEJ clip is one where you remind yourself to breathe.

if not better honestly

Very well written. Im sorry for your loss. ❤

He loves his son. Love is shown in your actions

​@@deonsavage9974 action can tell who a person is but words tells someone intent

it's a tough love, feels like a major loving his privates

@@maketemmiegreatagain5246but words itself is not good enough. Action speak louder than words

@@KelechiNwoko In what way is it not good enough? But that's not the point anyway. Action can tell you how good of a person that guy is for helping the homeless, words can tell you why he helped the homeless which is to get votes.

Always send love where you don’t sense it. And congrats on breaking the cycle homie, Im sure your dad is more proud than he can express

The realist comment here

That probably depends on how poor you are and how hard you work just to maintain food, shelter, and clothing...

@@jeffreyjustis5338 Then dont have kids at all

It’s the foundation of feeding and clothing a child as a duty is what is being conveyed here. You sound spoiled, dada not give you enough attention?

@@RaiderDawg No child owes you payback for that that s your duty as a parent. Me and my pops cool lmao

yeah, but do you like me though lol

@@mikophilo348 I dOn'T gOt To LiKe YoU!!!

Blows me away that a benevolent King can seem like a tyrant to a prince that will eventually become a benevolent King.

Exactly!

@@ydm760 What now?

Sometimes the only way you know isn't a good way

@Travis Johnson sometimes the only way you know isn't a good way

@@jacobsaccount9353 damn! Say that again.

@Chris Spencer LOL

in fact, it's not just how men thought -- mothers, too, were taught that "coddling" a son with talk of love and affection would lead to a weak adult. thank god countless studies in the 20th century disproved that. (kids actually become more self-reliant and stable when they grow up with support and attention)

I'm from the Burgh too, and I thought this exact same thing before I scrolled down to read this comment.

Agreed

I agree

Agreed.

He didn't ask if he loved him he asked if he liked him

Perfectly said

Read the THIRD word in my original post.

your dad didnt love you?

Pity

He read the play, for sure

This hurt cos it resonates with me powerfully watching a father do this never considering how his words bite. And for sure, he never wants to hear anything even close to this from any one.😢😢

I got heavy Vietnam style flashbacks of my pops after hearing that lol.

You like when he blasphemes the name of God?

Jerrell Simmons forreal man..my dad does the exact same thing when he’s pissed and he’s about to let me know wassup

@@claytonatkinson865 Chill out religious nut.

@@claytonatkinson865 ... he said got dammit... not god...

True but you cant always be too strict either. Your child will grow up bitter and cold. Broken. Carrying a rock and grudge. A good balance of love and tough love.

I'm not at all disagreeing with you, I just perhaps had a very easy upbringing. I need to ask you, so as to understand, what harshness in the world did you encounter that you think you wouldn't have survived had your dad's stern attitude not primed you for it?

@@brianticas7671 Remember, those were different times. This generation is too soft

If he was anything like this then he was just a bad parent. Kids later in life tell them selves what ever abuse or lack of love they suffered was "for the ultimate good" Because it helps them cope with having parents who sucked at being parents. It's why things like physical abuse often become cyclical. Some people just happen to have kids but not everyone is capable of being a good parent.

It shouldnt be one or the other. World would be hella better if parents taught their kids the necessary skills for the world AND liking their kids. Sadly, lots of parents are never really ready to have kids yet they have them.

Sometimes giving your child what he/she wants can spoil them

Love is not one of those things that spoils a child.

I sincerely hope you’re not using denzel’s character as an example... because if you are, you missed the point.

@@lcunash8093 this one.

@@Newton988 Growing up with a father like this lead me to search for love in all the wrong places. Now I've found Jesus Christ who gives all the love I want. Loving your child, though, is a requirement. And your son or daughter should hear that from you. I want my child to know I love them until they're annoyed by it.

Want a cookie?

Exactly

James Earl Jones did it better.

@David Ortiz yes. He did

@David Ortiz yes. He did.

💯

My friend there is a difference between respect and being scared

He ain't a a hole here

@Tom Ross TV lol why does that matter ? i'm pretty sure latino people, or indian & Indonesian people living in poverty could come to the same conclusion. EVERYONE & every situation is different.

Just because he fed you, clothed you, housed you doesn't mean he loved you. He's required by law to do that or else he'll go to jail.

@@bane3991 it was the step dad that raised him. The step dad could have decided not to be in a relationship with a woman who already has a kid. But instead he 'stepped' up to be the man in Rick's life that his biological father wouldn't be

Let's agree to disagree.

@@MrRevil3 I don't really care what you think.

@@queensmickey someone wasn't loved as a child

@@queensmickey I care , coz I understand and relate to Ur words

Beta!!!!!!!!🤦🤦 be a man return to the father lord Jesus Christ.