Fender 68 Vibro Champ Speaker Shootout! 

Great job Jack, the sound differences are subtle, Ted Weber and team are amazing, you are correct. Great customer service too.

Love to hear you play a strat once in a while. Love your vids man.

Great job! Definitely like the replacement speaker

The Webber sounds great. I ended up puttingva Jensen p10r in mine and it does make it sound open and warm..it takesca few weeks to "Break in" a new speaker so it might be good to hear this amp again in after 12 months of use. I would love to hear an Eminence GA10 through that amazing little combo.

Damn, they both sound good! Which says a lot about the circuit.....yes, I'd take the Weber but I'd happily turn up to a jam with the celestion.

I think the stock Celestian sounds great.

Remarkable differences😎👍 The Weber definitely gives more to work with. P90's work best to my ears. Nice comparison 😎👍 😎👍❤🖖

I got this little champ amp and my lake placid blue original 60’s tele thanks to your videos. Love my set up now! Just gonna try swapping my speaker to a gws g10c I’ll let you know how i like it

high Jack !! from what i can hear from youtube sound the original speaker is direct on your face whith alot of presence ! the alnico sounds more musical in every way warmth and delicate ! alnico are realy expensive by the way ! great work see you from France my friend

A timely video for me, because I'm looking for a replacement 10" speaker in my new-old Gibson GA-14 "Titan" amp (less than 500 were made in 1959/60). This is said to be the same as GA-6, but with a 10" speaker, similar to a tweed Deluxe circuit. The original P10R was gone, replaced by an Italian Jensen P10R, which sounds really good, but I know from experience how much better a Weber replacement will sound. I have a 1959 Gibson GA-18 Explorer, which came with a stock P10R speaker w/original cone. I wanted to preserve the original speaker, and put something better in it, so I opted for a Weber 10F150 after researching it, and that was an excellent choice. The larger magnet and voice coil help higher bass, more volume, and smoother highs - sounds more like a 12" speaker. I already had a 12F150 in my Deluxe Reverb clone, which was recommended by many guitar players at the local blues jam ~15 years ago. The DR clone came with an Italian Jensen P12N, a great sounding speaker, but the 12F150 was a huge improvement, just perfect for this amp. Supposedly similar to a vintage Chicago Jensen C12N, but different. Ted Weber (RIP, he was one of the best), who I used to have conversations about speakers with, always recommended I get my old Jensen speakers re-coned, rather than buying a replacement clone from him, even though he made more money on selling new speakers than re-coning old ones, the point being they are not identical. Jupiter supposedly is more similar, but they aren't making large magnet speakers currently, claims they can't get the parts (?). Getting back to Weber, and my GA-14, I'm torn between getting another 10F150, or trying a 10A150 instead, even though it's twice as expensive, all I care about is getting the best tone. I have a 12A150 in an Ampeg amp, but haven't had a chance to hear it yet, because the amp needs servicing. I'm tempted to try it in my DR clone, but the F version sounds so good I'm hesitant to change it. Another aspect that I'm trying to decide, is the cone type, with the "T" cone often used in amps that are more middy, like Fender tweeds, or Gibson golden-era amps (mid-1950s - market 1960s). There are other cone options too, and dust cap option for that matter, like the "H" which supposedly moderates the highs. ANYways, sorry for my long comment, but this is an important question. I love speaker comparisons and discussions, because they are the most significant factor in creating the that comes out of your............SPEAKERS! ` Thanks for the informative videos Jack, always appreciated. Cheers!

WOW that Weber!!!!👏👏👏 and I gotta say that Vick audio pedal and SG are IT!!

As always, great job....as for speakers....can't go wrong with Alnico, especially British flavored alnico. Both guitars def have their own flavor, and I think the alnico enhances both. It seems to have brought out the clear, twangy tele notes and it brought out the low mid grunt of the P90s.

Great playing & video Jack. I get your point about smaller amps having cheaper parts, but that little amp sounds way better than the twin reverb in the last video with either of those speakers. Just a sweeter all round tone overdriven or clean. Just my opinion.

I just got one these 68 Vibrochamps . I was playing it for while and was slightly disappointed that it didn't sound so great . I plugged in a Jensen C8R and the amp is all of sudden 50% improved. Full mid push ( very similar to the Weber alnico) ,nice bass and a bright clear treble. I have that alnico Weber speaker too which I will try later but now I am so relieved that I can keep this amp. It is a decent amp with the right speaker. That celestion is just terrible. I am playing a Goldtop with P90s in mine. Good review Jack.

I ended up with an old R & A alnico in mine as well as a Bendix 5992 (6V6)...

I'm thinking maybe the Weber in this video might be a great speaker in the 68 Custom Princeton reverb to open it up and cut some bass. I think the Weber sounds very vintage and I did prefer it.

I own a 1966 Fender Vibro Champ I installed a Jensen 10” Tornado Neo and it sounds fantastic… I use a Reverb pedal for Reverb

That new speaker really makes a noticeable difference. Dreamy...

Curious question, why is it that in some of your tone videos sound is panned hard only to one side? Everyone's left and right ear are usually different. Liking your videos a lot, though! Keep it up and I look forward to future vids!

Check out the 'True Blue' speakers that come in the inexpensive Gamma amps. Heavy magnets, killer sounds.

Thanks! How many ohms is this?

Any good 10” speakers to enhance bass?

Good comparison, nice playing, thanks. The Weber sounded brighter and that could suit some players. I love this amp, but I feel it's overly bright already so I'm looking for a speaker that can provide more depth. I'd like a speaker that doesn't need the Bass on 10. I tried a Weber 10A100T and that one didn't do it for me. I'm currently trying a 4ohm Guitar Warehouse 10" Veteran. So far I like it a little better. I may try some eminence speakers: Copperhead, Lil Buddy, Ragin Cajun, but they're 8ohms so that may create a volume problem. The tone quest continues. Bottom line: even with the stock speaker, this amp really excels. BTW I agree with Jack that this amp sounds closer to a mini Princeton than to a Champ. Champs are boxy. You can still get that Champ tone with this amp by turning the treble and bass off.

I don’t know, I think ceramic has its place. I liked how it sounded more upfront with distortion. Personally, I think this amp is small enough that you can own two of. Then have one with an Alnico and the other with a higher end ceramic American voiced speaker

Dig the p90 sg! You can also play real well man.

Great Jack!! I thik that the celestion sounds good. The weber alnico sounds kind of more tridimensional, it has a “reverb kind of compression” and has a way more detailed top end. However the top end is too much for me but no big deal as you can always just roll back the treble a bit. I guess I would prefer something in between . Both speakers sound just fine. After listening to the cleans I didn’t expect the weber to sound that good with overdriven sounds but it does sound great. From those two I choose the weber but the celestion sounds good too.

What Ohm rating is the Weber? Since the stock speaker designed as a 4 ohm. While an 8 ohm would work, the ideal seems to be the 4 Ohm? Hence my question. Thank you!

Thank you for the video! What ohm speaker did you get? Trying to decide between 4 and 8 ohms for mine.

AlNiCo for life!!!! Love the sparkle and the percussive lows of the Weber, which if I'm not mistaken, is a Jensen P10R copy??? Fabulous tones! I'm considering a Jensen Tornado 10-100 myself... Loving the neos these days.... As lightweight as AlNiCo, but as loud or louder than ceramic... Was the Celestion louder? Great video! What a killer sounding amp!

What level of doping did you get on that Weber Speaker? How broken in was the Alnico? I know from experience that Alnico speakers, new sound dull. I had to break in the Red Fang I bought for an AC15. After about 20 hours of playing it really got better.

The stock speaker for my taste as the other one seemed too bright with the Tele.

Are these speakers broken in? I ran an iPod playing techno inside an insulated cardboard box for like a week. Maybe overkill but I did i it. Cool video!

I actually prefer the breakup from the Celestion. The alnico was fizzy. That's in the case of both the pedal breakup AND the amp breakup. Clean though, alnico wins by a wide margin.

Would have made make more sense to compare the Weber to a Creamback of Greenback. The stock Celestion 1030 is an entry level speaker where the Weber sits mid to upper tier in their lineup.

What was the impedance rating for the Weber speaker? On Ted Weber website, he has options for 4 ohm, 8 ohm, 16, ohm etc

Hey Jack, which level of dope did you have them put on the Weber??

Did I hear some Cross Canadian Ragweed in there? Definitely at 15:40!

I ended up finding a sublime R & A alnico.

I like the Weber speaker. It is sweeter.

Anybody put a wgs G10C in theirs? I just threw one in mine and I’m not sure how i feel about it yet

The Celestion sounds better driven hard with overdrive. The Weber sounds incredible clean.

At home volume the stock speaker really is fine. For anything else just plug in to bigger cab (4x12 if there's one sitting around) The difference is huge in volume and tone. Not really interested in the subtle differences of other 10" models.

I like Webers......made right here in my home town.... Eminence makes the fender special design Webers......

The Weber appeared clearer and fuller.

Weber all the way

I think the Princeton with the Jupiter speaker sounds better than the VC no matter what the speaker.

How about the G10 Gold?

just my 2 cents but for the price fender wants for this little 5 watt champ amp they coulda easily included a nice jensen alnico ( left the bell off and it woulda fit ) i keep lookin at it but i just can't justify the price of 899 for one .. if they put an alnico in em and let em go for 649 they woulda sold a shiton of em .. and they coulda still sold em with the celestion for 599 ..i'm sure some guys would prefer that speaker .. i wouldn't .. and fender can buy an alnico for a lot less then you or me could .. i won't say jensen would give em away to fender but they would give em a great deal .. they would love to get their speakers back in as many fender amps as they could .. at one time fender and jensen went together like peanutbutter and jelly .. or like drunk and disorderly . either way .. nice video tho .. ya done good .. i'm lookin for a mustang lt 25 vs the champ reverb ..

I prefer the stock speaker.

For me...the Weber by 100 miles.

Stock speaker is good enough.

Screw those cages anyway.

That aside……

Funny how people talk about a small 5 watt amp that cost $900 likre its cheap and should expect garbage parts

With a lighter touch the Weber sounds a little more glassy, which actually isn't a good thing with this amp which has way too much treble. Celestion has a little more low mids which is exactly what this amp needs.

Pierwszy raz włączony tłumacz automatyczny na język polski,produkował niesamowite bzdury.

Too bad you can buy a vintage vibro champ for less than fender wants for a new one. And I don't think anyone would argue with you if you said those celestion speakers are garbage. 💁

If you are looking to upgrade the speaker-the 4 ohm Jensen Alnico is the way to go, sorry Weber.

The Celestion also sounds better over driven than the Weber- again- the Jensen 4 ohm Alnico is where you go if you want to upgrade this amp- NOT the Weber- it actually downgrades the sound, marginally, sorry.

Single ended amps are anything but sterile.

This is a great example of what not to do when making a comparison video. If he just would A/B a fucking G chord strummed like a man he could let us know what we're after in 15 seconds, not 15 minutes.

Most overpriced amp in Fender’s lineup.

I don’t know, I think ceramic has its place. I liked how it sounded more upfront with distortion. Personally, I think this amp is small enough that you can own two of. Then have one with an Alnico and the other with a higher end ceramic American voiced speaker