Ferguson, Begg, Lawson, Sproul, and Sproul Jr: Questions and Answers #2 

I like going to ..ligonier.org...then hit "Conferences" (& much more, inc R C's sermons, etc)....but I have listened to and read these men a lot. I like all of them and all are friends...some (like Alistair and Sinclair, friends who grew up in Scotland), I know these 2 are very good friends. One time in a sermon Alistair said he felt like Sinclair was as a big brother to him. You are right of course...they must really get a great amount of joy between the hours of preaching & no doubt they and their wives must put some time together so to relax, have dinners out, etc. Most of all, on all the big important issues, they stand committed to work in the churches which the local churches are (I must think) are happy for them and their putting out all the great sermons, books, etc...so that not just pastors but the people in the pews may profit too. I have read R C and started out by coming across his audio messages some time ago...Alistairs internet site is dynamite, for sure...truthforlife.org...I am on it all the time and he is such a fine preacher. Sorry I rambled so much there, but do appreciate your comment.

Thank You Father YAHweh for thes instructions. Ephesians 6:10-12 Finally, my brothers, strengthen yourselves in Father YAHweh, and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of Father YAHweh, that you may be able to stand against the wiles; crafty ways, schemes, of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not only against flesh and blood, but also against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual forces of the evil one in the heavens. All that takes place in what we see with our eyes has a spirit that has an influence over what is being said, and how the other person is thinking. 1 YAHchanan 4: 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, to see whether they are from Father YAHweh; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you will know the Spirit of Father YAHweh: Every spirit that confesses that YAHShua Messiah started in the flesh is from Father YAHweh, 3 And every spirit that does not confess that YAHShua Messiah started in the flesh is not from Father YAHweh. So this is the spirit of the + Anti-Messiah which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. 4 You are of Father YAHweh, little children, and have overcome them, because greater is He Who is in you, than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world; therefore, they speak of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of Father YAHweh. He who knows Father YAHweh, hears us; he who is not of Father YAHweh, does not hear us. By these we can know the spirit of TRUTH, and the spirit of error.

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👍Even when u have no clue (*ahem) what they’re talking about!🤪

Amen!

♥✞♥We believe that God forgives us our sins; but also that He will not do so unless we forgive other people their sins against us. There is no doubt about the second part of this statement. It is in the Lord’s Prayer; it was emphatically stated by our Lord. If you don’t forgive, you will not be forgiven. No part of His teaching is clearer, and there are no exceptions to it. He doesn’t say that we are to forgive other people’s sins provided they are not too frightful, or provided there are extenuating circumstances, or anything of that sort. We are to forgive them all, however spiteful, however mean, however often they are repeated. If we don’t, we shall be forgiven none of our own.♥✞♥✞♥

These men are gifted speakers. But to call them each "holy"? RC Jr in particular is just the opposite. His life for almost 20 years has been a non-stop dumpster fire. Thankfully Ligonier came to their senses and kicked him off the Sproul Family Gravy Train. But he's still masquerading as a pastor and uses the title "Rev." That in spite of being forced to demit his ordination because his Presbytery wouldn't condone his marrying a 3-times divorced woman which he stole away from her husband after encouraging her to divorce in secret "marriage counseling" sessions.

♥✞♥We believe that God forgives us our sins; but also that He will not do so unless we forgive other people their sins against us. There is no doubt about the second part of this statement. It is in the Lord’s Prayer; it was emphatically stated by our Lord. If you don’t forgive, you will not be forgiven. No part of His teaching is clearer, and there are no exceptions to it. He doesn’t say that we are to forgive other people’s sins provided they are not too frightful, or provided there are extenuating circumstances, or anything of that sort. We are to forgive them all, however spiteful, however mean, however often they are repeated. If we don’t, we shall be forgiven none of our own.♥✞♥✞♥

I concur to all you said Jasonms, as I listened to this in 2021, I glean from RC Sprou l and RZIM, Charles Swindoll wisdom likewise

But it should be as simple as Begg says, all the others add characteristics that can be used for the whole Bible and just ends up creating siles and separation and even may grow pride.

I need you to send me the code again.

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You really have it out for jr huh? Lol. All your comments are an enjoyment of the removal of rc Jr. Relax my dude. People make mistakes.

@@jxmas9985 You might want to check your dictionary for "mistake." That's not what RC Jr is guilty of. He's guilty of perpetrating over many years multiple egregious forms of wickedness and even crimes. It'd be great if he'd just go away and be forgotten. But he won't. He continues masquerading as a pastor. He's exactly what Jesus warned the church to be on our guard for, false teachers and wolves in sheep's clothing.

@@cheapscott8631 1st, my mistake. I was not aware of this. I thought you were referring to his DUI. Because that is all I was able to find online. Although I admit I should do more research, maybe give more information as to why he should be removed. Thank you sir. Have a good day.

@@jxmas9985 Hard to give details when Ligonier prevents it here by filtering so many of the keywords RC Jr is guilty of perpetrating. You can however get many details at the Spinderella Sproul blog. There you'll discover even additional scandals he's guilty of post-DUI, not to mention Ligonier continuing to pay him six-figures even though he supposedly "resigned."

Judge not lest ye be judged.

So where do you think things went so terribly wrong for "his son trying to grow into the image their instructor has for them"? How did RC Jr turn out to be such a reprobate when he had such a fine instructor for a father? I'd always admired RC Sproul but have long had questions about how his son could have turned out to such a stinky dumpster fire.

H. Abramson Okay cool, now can you give me a single justification from the Scriptures to insult someone so horrible regardless of what they’ve done? “Stinky dumpster fire” is not a Christian statement to make.

@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 It always cracks me up when Christians employ nicey-nice as their standard of what conforms with "Christian" but completely ignore the language of the Bible itself. As just a small example there's: Hypocrites Snakes Brood of vipers Whitewashed sepulchres Whitewashed wall Dogs Swine Blind guides Would you like to see more? RC Sproul Jr's multitudinous crimes and scandals biblically rate much worse than merely "stinky dumpster fire."

Sam Adams Oftentimes the one doing the insulting was God Himself. And Christ insulted for a reason every time. You just insulted the guy without even saying why. Is it because of Ashley Madison? Because he visited the site once and confessed it, in what seemed like a genuine repentance.

@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 Ashley Madison is only one among many examples of Sproul's long history of pretend-sorry sociopathy. You've used it as an example of Sproul's capacity for humble repentance. Those who've actually examined the evidence and employed basic common sense readily perceive it's just a ruse (see the Spinderella Sproul blog for proof).

♥✞♥We believe that God forgives us our sins; but also that He will not do so unless we forgive other people their sins against us. There is no doubt about the second part of this statement. It is in the Lord’s Prayer; it was emphatically stated by our Lord. If you don’t forgive, you will not be forgiven. No part of His teaching is clearer, and there are no exceptions to it. He doesn’t say that we are to forgive other people’s sins provided they are not too frightful, or provided there are extenuating circumstances, or anything of that sort. We are to forgive them all, however spiteful, however mean, however often they are repeated. If we don’t, we shall be forgiven none of our own.♥✞♥✞♥

Excuse me? Ligonier certainly rejects dispensationalism and rapture. However, they do platform guys like Lawson who have differing views.

And amillennialism is the traditional reformed, and I’d argue, biblical position.

I am sorry for you, because you don’t know God and if you don’t love Him you will indeed go to hell. Pray nonstop, seek Him and you will find Him. He does everything for His Glory, why? Be abuse He is God that is why! The contentment in heaven, the peace and glory wiry Christ Jesus that are promised to those who love Him and truly repent is more than enough to disregard the suffering of this terrenal life. Pray and you will find.

Hopefully this man sought the truth and had it revealed to him. Knowing of God and giving thanks doesn’t meet his criteria for saving-faith.

If you read their other works or go elsewhere and watch videos etc., you will see them quote scripture profusely, just as did Calvin and Augustine also did. The doctrine is wholly biblical my friend. I suggest you study John 6:44 for example, which states that “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws Him.” Especially when you look at the various scripture verses which emphasize how dead we were in sin (Romans 3:23, Ephesians 2:1-5 are good examples), we must realize that we would never choose God on our own. That’s why God has to regenerate us, dead men can do nothing, thus He must give us new life before we can truly seek Him.

The problem with ‘faith before regeneration’ is that after a person holds in their heart they’re born again that it was their own work that prompted the working of the Holy Spirit. This always frames Man as being the very first step in God’s Will of salvation. God works everything for his own glory. Now we can understand how no man can boast in our Lord’s work.

Debbie Jesic But He was far more than part human and part deity, wasn’t He? Fully human, and thus fully able to bear my sin and stand in my place as a substitute, and yet fully divine, thereby able to forgive my sins as only God can do and entirely worthy of the kind of worship only God can receive.

I would add/correct - He is fully human, yet fully God... I have to agree with these comments, ie, what a marvelous collection of wisdom, and insight. It's so amazing to see these Godly men from different walks enjoy each other so much, and despite differences in minor aspects of theology, they are in complete harmony on the Grace and Love of God in Christ.

I've heard these guys say it is even more accurate to say truly God and truly Man 😉

♥✞♥We believe that God forgives us our sins; but also that He will not do so unless we forgive other people their sins against us. There is no doubt about the second part of this statement. It is in the Lord’s Prayer; it was emphatically stated by our Lord. If you don’t forgive, you will not be forgiven. No part of His teaching is clearer, and there are no exceptions to it. He doesn’t say that we are to forgive other people’s sins provided they are not too frightful, or provided there are extenuating circumstances, or anything of that sort. We are to forgive them all, however spiteful, however mean, however often they are repeated. If we don’t, we shall be forgiven none of our own.♥✞♥✞♥

100% human 100% deity.