Stop making silly comments: • Festool CTL 26 E vs Pa... Both regulators are at max! Lets test the latest Parkide Performance PPWD 30 A1 workshop vacuum cleaner vs the premium Festool CTL 26 E.
can only say one thing about this. Just bought my 2nd Festool vacuum cleaner. the first one belonged to my father who is retired. it was used for an average of 4 hours every week for 25 years. and it still works, just the plastic has worn off and is starting to break down. Hope this one works for another 25 years!
First problem is that Parkside has no global supply policy. Which means a tool available in one country might never released to another EU country or release 3 to 4 years later (so a bit outdate because opponents had the time to strike back). It is like LIDL want to limit their success 🤣
parts availability is also a big issue. While there is warranty they replace the device automatically and never intend to fix anything. The second hand websites are littered with broken parkside tools, you can buy them by the boxes. While festool provides parts for their 90s tools and they give you a new tool if part no longer available. Obviously this difference is arguable if you can buy multiple paskside vacuums from the price of one festool
Lidl/parkside is the seller they don't make the things themself. They make contracts with 3rd party companies so they can sell their stuff under a bigger name. These tools are usually very cheap with sometimes good quality. People who buy & use them don't know how to repair tools themself. & getting tools repaird by professionals can be more expensive than just buying a new tool. If you want to repair your tools, you shouldn't buy no-name brands that may not exist in 10years.
@@berndarndt9924 Same thing applies to Ikea 👌 but you can get products (even electrical ones) on every EU country, you get good supply rate and you also get good repair. And Ikea is also using global supply chain, suppliers and workshop using their own brand, and maybe sometime even use same suppliers in Asia or Europe that LIDL used 😁 So these are only bad excuses for LIDL 😘 FYI, in France for years we were notnable to order online tools. Now it is possible, but the supply rate is still better in Belgium for instance.
@@testman9541 Ikea is about giving your parts to self assemble though. So it's on brand to have good a good supply chain. If you buy electrical tools in supermarkets, it on brand to not expect a part supply but to expect them to just replace broken tools with new ones within warranty. So yeah, I'd love for ikea to sell electrical tools.
Looks like a good vacuum for the price, but you still always get the sense with some Parkside products that if they just spent a little bit more on some small things, it would have been a great option to last many years, but they cheap out on some things that might cost you in the long run.
Looks like a good vacuum for the price, but you still always get the sense with some Festool products that if they just spent a little bit less on some small things, it would still have been a great option to last many years since they are pricey on some things that might cost you in the long run.
The Parxide performance tools still cost 1/4 of a Borscht, Milfuckee, Default or Makita. Yet they are just a bit worse than the big brands, not by much.
@@samsonacc8081 like cheap triggers or motor bearings or underprotected fans or digital push buttons or soft hammer & anvils or leaky gaskets. I would never buy a car from Parkside, but I like their tools. Great performance and ergonomics for the price, the snag is a russian roulette of reliability
Looks like a good budget shop vac. Of course the real question is how it performs in real applications. I have a similar model Festool vac with an orbital sander of the same brand, and the dust collection is phenomenal. Even when sanding a large plaster surface, the vac keeps up without slacking off. I had a cheaper shop vac choke on large amounts of such fine dust.
Thanks for the info,as i do home reforms,many vacs i tried ,even famous brands,end breaking from the plaster dust. The only resisting so far is an ashes vac for chimneys a friend sent me from Romania. Tipical romanian cheap obscure brand,the label with the brand an caracteristics felt off shortly,but it does the job. Bad part is it doesn't have connexion for other electric tools,was not made for that,i just improvised a relay in serie with an applied socket wich strats it automatically when the plugged tool starts. Good side,the upper part with the motor can be turned upside down and fits into the ashes bucket,reducing the size to half,good for transport and storage,also,to clean it,only need to empty the bucket,easy task😄
I believe that on the test with the ping pong ball e nuts you had the parkside on maximum power and the festool on the minimum power, that´s the small knob on each one.
Nope. See the video description or search the internet for the Festool knob and you'll see the small arrow on it. It's really deceptive. Maybe Festool knew their vacuums were weaker and made that on purpose.
23:02 Ahahahh brilliant xD You really went all out with this video! Excellent content, thank you very much. I think I'll stick with my pwd 30 a1, it still runs great. Lidl is going to release in days the ppexs (the get 75 clone sander) in my country, at 60€. Would you still recommend it?
Interresteing test. I would have enjoyed more info about the bag : performance with bag, spare bags availability and cost... Not sure I'll ever see the parkside vacuum here anyway 😅
Admirable breakdown & testing. The value of longevity, serviceability, and supporting quality manufacturing among allies must always be factored in… sometimes price/cost runs overly excessive however.
Well i wouldnt say H class is much much better than L class. Its just better but the difference is 0.0002mm in particle sizes. Theres a reason why most shop vacuums are L class. Unless you want to vacuum a laboratorium L class is good enough for shops and build sites. This test just proved me i dont want to spend crazy money on parkside stuff. if i would look for a budget shop vacuum i take Bosch GAS 12-25 PL. Its cheaper, better brand, better service aviability and the performance numbers are same except filtration class where i am satisfied with L.
Class H is for harmful particles like asbestos which are still quite common at old houses and construction sites. Those classes are not just some fancy feature to brag about. Not to mention there is class M in between and i don't see a Festool vacuum with such a filter either.
@@icku idk where are you coming from but here its forbiden to work with azbestos for public. Only companies with special permission cam safely dispose it. I stand behind what i wrote. Unless you are cleaning a lab, L is good enough for your workshop or consturction site. Also the only difference is in Heppa filter used. You buy H14 heppa you have H class. L class have H13.
@@don_zulo Do you really think all personnel using a such vacuum cleaner really know how asbestos looks like. Asbestos is forbidden for soo many years, there are whole new generations that haven't seen that stuff. If a 30 year old repair technician stumbles upon some asbestos inside your 75 years old house, believe me you would want that vacuum to be class H.
@@icku well, i am with you there are applications requiring H class. I still think for 99% users L is good enough. Regarding azbestos its not so hard to recognize. Me and my friends are 35ish years old and we can recognize it. Anyway if you mess with it without knowing its azbest you most likely not wearing any face and skin protection so i am not sure the vacuum will save you. I partly agree with you tho
Excellent Comparison and objective, fair Test - well done, thank you! I was very surprised about the new Parkside-Vac, because I didn't realize anything about thats appearance! I agree with you about the very silly Bluetooth/Wi-Fi-Solution by Parkside, it's really idiotically and need immediately a proper Fixing, hope for a soon much better (Firmware?)-Update! But regardless about that electronical Bug, for me the Parkside stands as a perfect Alternative to the extreme overprized Festool, or other nearby expensive Competitors! I made my Choice regarding your Video and look forward to get a Parkside! Greets from Alex / Frankfurt / Germany
Looks like decent performance. The lower vacuum would probably be due to the bigger hose diameter and for sure the higher filter class. That higher filter class means it's harder to pull the air through the filter because it's much finer.
Ottimo video e grand descrizione del articolo ,Cavolo e non ci hai fatto sapere il tubo di aspirazione quanto sono lunghi tra una e l'altra .ossia quanto raggio di lavoro ti permette.
Thanks for this review. I was waiting for a proper review of this vac since I first saw an image. I have a couple questions that maybe you could answer. Filter cartridges are interchangeable? Because it's easy to find cheap festool-compatible filters, but if this have the same dimensions but a different plastic border maybe they won't fit. If they are, does using the non-hepa filter of the festool on the parkside increase the airflow or negative pressure? In theory a coarser filter should let more air though and increase the flow (not the pressure). Thanks! Liked!
Excellent test, je m'étais dit que je ne mettrais jamais 600 euros dans un aspirateur de chantier, je viens d'en acheter un sur Amazone pour environ 140 euros. Dommage que je n'ai pas vu cette vidéo avant. Parkside fait vraiment très fort. Les deux aspi utilisent le même moteur.
The auto shutdown delay is normal, even 5 seconds is not enough. It is necessary to empty the entire suction tube when you turn off any tool in auto mode.
Laboratory tests for a vacuum cleaner that is supposed to be in the dust in the workshop or on a hard construction site! You need to put it into operation and then evaluate Festool wins :-)
To perform construction tests - are you kidding me. Do you think any manufacturer of any kind of product performs a real life test of its product? Do you think Tesla tests its cars for lets say 5 years to see if its batteries will last before marketing them to you? No! And why should i perform such a test? Just to satisfy your curiosity... Get used to it - Parkside is no more 2nd degree brand. Just like some years ago all laughed at Huawei, but see them now. No one is laughing any more.
@@ickuSerious manufacturers perform Accelerated Aging tests depending on temperature, vibrations, shocks, for many many cycles, which represents the lifetime of the product.
@@ickuno, parkside ( parksheisse) it’s not second category product. It’s 3rd or 4th 😂 it’s a junk which is failing after a week of real usage. Cheap shit, praised by the people who cannot afford a decent tools
Really nice test thanks. Thats a shame for those who use BT tools but i believe they will eventually sort it out at some point if it is purely a software issue. Or get a New vacuum revision out as they usualy do. Anyways my first thoughts were that if i need such a vacuum cleaner as a pro, id buy the one with the best aftersale service and product design, which i know both are lacking with lidl/parkside in France as i had to deal with them twice already. I got a regular parkside shop vacuum with an auto start socket that serves its purpose well attached to a mitre Saw, it is good for the Price and i'd buy another one if i need another stationary Vac. I also havefestool powertools and a CTM26 AC and ive got nothing to complain about(except the Price), the bluetooth Button sure is ultra extensive but i cant get over it today. Not having to lean to start the vac seems like a lazy people issue until you get to use it 😅
1300pln in poland, 300eu - I would be an idiot to buy a china copy for such money, it is better to buy a nilfisk or karcher tact.... ctl 26e is not worth the price either - no automatic cleaning but it is box stackable so maybe an asset for a festool user. GOOD REVIEW anyway! 💪
So how did you get the vacuum cleaner? I have searched for it on your website and it does not appear. Could you tell me how I can get it for my workshop? Thank you
Scusami ma c'è un grosso errore nel video. Nel festool si vede che tieni la selezione del tasto della velocità al minimo mentre nel parkside al massimo.
Did you use the bigger Festool hose, or the small one that comes with the vac? Airflow is significantly higher with the bigger hose. I have both, and tools are designed for either of them. Thank you for a great review. Parkside seems a good performer for light use. Was nice to see how the Festool impeller looks like, it's impressive.
Any ideas where to get the filter and foil bag in dust class H? I just crawled through the internet and couldn’t find one explicitly for the ppwd 30a1. I’m located in Germany
Nice cleaner ,regarding to the prices 300/700=42% While regarding to the demonstration if we rate those devices i believe (park rate/fes rate ) is much > 42%
I believe compatible boxes which can stack on top of the vacuum cleaner are Qbrick system (from the looks of red locking mechanism). It would be great if someone is able to confirm that.
That looks great, But you can't buy one. Hose quality looks cheap, Ive been there a few times, the cost of Festool may be high but if I want one I can have it when I want and aftersales is second to none, I still want a CTL in my shop LOL
You say longer warranty for the Parkside, but that’s not true for professional users right? In Portugal there is zero warranty on Parkside unless it’s just for home use.
@@icku Just a thought: based on invoicing details. If you buy as a regular person, you only need the receipt from the cash register... if you buy it as a business, you'll need an invoice.
Bonjour, lors du test de la dépression ( avec le tuyau transparent) il semblerait que le variateur du PARKSIDE était au maximum alors que celui du FESTOOL au minimum.
Damn... the Bluetooth autostart on the parkside seems more like an afterthought than a properly though out implementation... The part with keeping the phone's screen on, and in a specific menu window... Is that well documented in their user manuals? Or do you have to find it out by yourself ( a good ocasion to revisit every curse word you learned until now... maybe make up some new ones). It should be set it and forget it. I wonder... there's a Lidl home hub, or something like this... though I knew it is mainly for Zigbee devices... maybe they intended the whole thing to run better via this device? Just a (dumb) question from my side...
They have updated the Parkside app and now it supports the vacuum. On the menu you can see a warning not to turn off the screen or exit the app 🤣 Written in big letters 🤣
Remote startup functionality. For the festool, they sell a bluetooth kit that comes with the part that goes in the vac (the ct midi doesn't need this; it's built in, so you can buy just the remote) and a small remote you can attach to the hose or use handheld. It's an amazing feature to have so that you don't need to be near the vac to turn it on. Another thing it adds is functionality to automatically start when paired with tools using festool's bt batteries.
Hello, in generell a good Test. But when I have Seen IT right, around 11:35 when your Test the airflow, the festool was 't at max. Power. May the festool can reach the value from the Datasheet. Thanks
@@icku I have Seen that too, but I see the regulator in the position "low" 🤔 May I'm blind or really stupid...and please don't missunderstand me. If I'm wrong, than I apologize...🙂
@@norbertwalter6844 Just search in google ctl 26 e and take a closer look how the air flow regulator looks. And you'll see the small arrow. Its really deceptive 😃
@Allhandmade It is amazing that they put wifi in the vacuum, this is because they use Tuya modules which has BT and WiFi. I bet there will be a firmware update for this to be fixed.
Lol they are really fast. I confirm that after today's update you can use the vacuum with the Parkside app too. But still you need to keep it constantly open 🤣
I add WiFi switch to mine cleaner years ago. Not that difficult. I'm wondering what board did Parkside use and when hardware hackers will release alternative firmware or extra sensors. Tuya is software solutions provider not a hardware. Hardware is mostly on ESP chips. If the controller base on Tuya solutions it means that it should work with Tuya's App "Smart Live" and Home Assistant without modification.
@@Fatmacheto You were close but miss a bit. Tuya have in the offer for developers a template which that can modify they own solutions hiding from end user some features. Smart Life app allows to have an access to everything they offer plus acces to devices from other brands.
Great review! Looks like Parkside totally messed up the wireless functionality. But at a fraction of the price it might still be the better deal for diy. I wonder how well the vacuums perform when they are 75% full for example.
5:31 Oh, that’s a bummer, Parkside. The ability to take the main filter out without the need of a tool is quite nice. If the designers at Parkside absolutely wanted a screwed-on filter, then it would have been nice if there was a small holder for a screwdriver near the filter (it’s best to supply the right screwdriver with the vac ex works).
@@icku nice try, switches for control panel? How about motor or various replacement parts? Thats the problem with parkside tools, they work as long as you have warranty on them.
@@dienowplease3565 Parkside is developing its brand right now. Do you believe a company paying Arnold millions does not have plans for the future? Yes some idiots do work there, but pretty soon Festool and all other major brands will feel some cold sweat on their back. Do you remember how not long ago people were laughing at Huawei? No one is laughing now...
@@icku as a beginner I had a lot of parkside stuff. But they all fall short when you start pushing them a little harder. I don't think all Festool stuff is good but I trust expensive tools more than something that needs withered terminator as advertisement.
Nope. Both regulators are at max: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sukmqGUJexU.html But after so many comments about that It seems I found another problem on Festool - they need to design less confusing regulator. That's the least they can do for such price they ask.
Guten Tag, der Test weist meines Erachtens einen Mangel auf: Während der Parkside Sauger immer auf dem Maximum saugt, saugt der Festool Sauger immer auf dem Minimum. Somit ist eine Vergleichbarkeit bei dem Test der Saugkraft, Saugleistung nicht gegeben. Mit freundlichem Gruss. Harald
Wow, that vacuum sucks! ;-) Although the Parkside is louder the sound appears less annoying compared to the Festool. At least in the video - I don't know about real life. But I will definitely have a close eye on that vacuum.
Parkside isn't copying the design of festool/bosch/etc any more than bmw does from audi, and they certainly aren't paying a licence for that. It's just that certain designs are more functional than others. And well, you can't pantent funktional design. (At least not where parkside is sold)
So 30 stand for 30 liters right ? Festool weight around 13kg + 20 kg if the bag is full of mixed dust, most part of Time wood, plaster,etc, so 20 to 30 kilos fully loaded. Yeah just look at the wheels and the weight of the parkside unit, I don’t think you’re going really far on a jobsite with the parkside unit.
Isn't the Parkside at max suck, and the festtool at low suck for the "lift" test.. Allso you can look up the manufacturer from the serial number on the Parkside... 🤔
I wish this Parkside was available in Britain. But I've never seen one, or even seen it advertised in the UK. Probably due to BREXIT. Most of the good Parkside tools never come here.
Hallo Jonas, hallo Gemeinde, hier ist ein weiterer Testvergleich zwischen dem Festool und dem "Grizzly-Bätren" 🙂 Interessant bei dem (englisch sprachigen) Video ist der Leistungstest zum Ende des Videos. Dort zeigt sich , dass der Festool, trotz höher angegebenen Leistungswerte, deutlich schwächer daher kommt. 🙂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sukmqGUJexU.html Ich lass den Hashtag weg, für andere.. weil, ich hab' ihn schon den Lidl-Sauger.... 😎
Пробвай блутута на фестото, май работи :) И струва колкото едно пале прахосмукачки от бакалията с циклон от кофа от латекс. Ползвам служебни понякога, готини са, но няма да си купя. Нито паркетсайт.
When you did the suction test with the nuts and Ping Pong ball in the hose it looks like you turned Parkside on full power but Festool on min. Parkside (Switch is turned to Max.): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sukmqGUJexU.html Festool (Switch is turned to Min.): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sukmqGUJexU.html Comparison, where you can read the labels better: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sukmqGUJexU.html
Going through wifi is stupidity....if you're out and about and don't know the wifi access code...it will not work.... Got to be bluetooth only ....or an option. Just bend over and turn the thing on...ha.
