"Your Stoneskin grants you the effect of Stoneskin." "Your Sentinel grants you the effect of Sentinel." _Hmm, the floor here appears to be made of floor_ *People die when they are killed*
@@MBOmnis At the time when 2.0 launch it was the most hated mainly because it was a jump in difficulty from the previous dungeon by a good amount (long before adjustments to it were done) and it was the only dungeon that could help get you to level cap of 50 being the last available "leveling" dungeon at 47.
1.0 was mainly run by XI devs who had completely failed to keep up with the current state of video games. It was their sheer arrogance that almost killed XIV completely; they genuinely could not see how their ideas of game design were at least ten years outdated. One was rightly fired all together, while the other got demoted to level designer.
@@smaller_cathedrals Yep this is how I explain 1.0 to friends who play the game today. 1.0 was basically FF11-2 in design, pacing, combat, everything except somehow more awkward and worse. Where the rest of the world had the WoW boom which revolutionized MMOs and changed the way we think about them Japan was largely stuck in the MMO dark ages.
@@smaller_cathedralshad nothing to do with the devs it was all the higher ups pushing them to use an untested engine and not enough time to try and get it to work
dungeons in 1.0 where open dungeons , anyone could go in or out of the dungeons, no party min . There where so people that pull the whole dungeon to the entrance to xp
i love the conversation at 3:12 about the mahogany tree dropping oak logs and the players asking for an exchange. totally unrelated to aurum vale i just think it's funny that some things never change
I never played 1.0 and I can't believe how densely populated the dungeons are with mobs. The class-switching before certain bosses and trash mobs is bonkers too.
As someone who never played 1.0, what are some of the details of the strats they're using and why was it hard? Even when watching this, it's tough to get a feel for it because I have no idea how the system worked back then lol
Position was extremely important in 1.0. Standing in the wrong spot would often times get you killed because you can't see AoEs like you can in modern ffxiv. And even though the animations look sleek the added delay of movement and the very bad server latency meant that it was next to impossible to dodge anything in real time. This is why creating safe spots for your party to stand in was the norm in 1.0. Watch the 1.0 version of the Garuda or Iffy fights and you'll see what I mean.
Why is no one talking about the chat at the beginning? "It will be the worst mistake of your life if you invite him xD" "He's French. /end" The universal MMO constant: avoid French players at all costs.
Yep yep yep. And as a french what makes me laugh is that 90% of people spitting on us can't make the difference between Italian and French. I had a conversation with a guy (he thought i was EN) on a MMO, and someone on the general chat said something in Italian. The guy i was talking to started saying bad things about us thinking the italian guy was french. My oh my. What a bunch of ignorant people. This day, i lost a little bit more faith in humanity.
@@fortidogi8620 in 1.0 you had to think carefully on every single action you took. Even taking a single step is carefully considered. It may not look like much is happening. But these fights are all incredibly tense with death just a minor mistake away.
@@MugiwarasNakama They wouldn't understand, those of us who played FFXI and, if you could even run the thing, 1.0, we know that it was like a fine game of chess. That's why it combat was particularly slow.
i'm ngl, i'm REALLY fascinated with the 1.0 build of the game. i wish i could turn back time to try it out. i love ff14 and i want to know how far it's come over the years
For some of us it was such a huge disappointment. I forked over the cash for the collector's edition. During play my game crashed and I couldn't log in. I had an error that seemed to affect my account. Despite numerous messages with their CS (which was awful) SE told me my account was not recoverable. They offered me a free copy of the game but refused to give me my in game collector's edition items back. I was so mad I didn't touch FFXIV after that until Heavensward came out.
@@Akihito_Kanbara I hate how most of these people talk shit about 1.0 when they probably haven't even tried it for themselves, but instead just assume "1.0 bad lul" because of channels like Speakers Network. I honestly miss 1.0, and am glad there is a dedicated group trying to revive it from the ashes.
Ah... so many deaths in Aurum Vale. Having to run from safe corner to safe corner because the fruits, which needed to be consumed at all times, didn’t last long. They eventually cut a bit of the dungeon map as it no longer had a purpose. The Miser, Coinpurse, really tough bosses so early in the game. Even today this dungeon can get messy! So I don’t miss the 1.0 version at all. 😅 Thanks for the nostalgia.
And i want to try this version of the game still! Something is making me feel like the gameplay seems interresting to try and worth it. I like the strategy in using the right skills at the right time, yes the gameplay is slower than the ARR since one which modern ff14 will have : the sparkling and unique look this old version had, i used to love turn based games in general and i forgot about it gradualy with modern games fast pacing which saddens me at times. Of course i like modern ff14 still but at times i want to be able to chill for a bit without having to run everywhere in a dungeon all the time. I do feel disconnected more from modern ff14 lately. It isn't like it used to be and in any servers cannot be in a major city without being spammed in chat with RP/ERP ads which is making me cringe. A game to me isn't a dating simulator!
I didn't realize that the music playing in Stone Vigil Hard and Brayflox's Longstop Hard in 2.0 came from Aurum Vale in 1.0. One of my favorite music tracks! ^_^
While 2.0+ is obviously better, I can't help but miss the way this game controlled. Everything you did had weight to it, like you were grounded in a world with somewhat consistent laws. Your footsteps matched the distance you went and you couldn't just slide across the ground while doing a non-walking animation. In modern XIV you feel like you have all the weight of a paperclip.
youre playing a game in which you can play as a neko, an elf, a shrek, or a gnome child, that can sit atop a giant tortoise that can fly by spinning along aether in the atmosphere like a mystical beyblade. who cares about realism. also schlide casting is slick.
I really wish I had a chance to try this for myself, since I only started when ARR was already well under way when I truly started (The patch after Rogues/Ninjas). People always say the game is bad, but I'm hesitant to call it that if I never experienced it for myself. Oh well, it's neither here nor there. Thanks for the upload, even though it is an old video.
Yoshi-P wouldn‘t have had it nuked if it wasn‘t bad. I think you lot like to look at this with rose-colored glasses. Remember, 1.0 was a financial loss for SE. I personally know people who quit 1.0 because it was that bad... and they were Final Fantasy fans. One of them came back to ARR and he said it was loads better.
@@markb1170 All I said was I'm sad I missed my chance to try 1.x for myself to see just how awful it was. Never made any indication that I think it's better than ARR or even good in the first place... But sure, I'm wearing rose-tinted glasses if you say so.
@@Itsdaninerd Don't listen to him your point is perfectly valid. To me, the game LOOKS like it could be pretty fun. I don't see anything that immediately strikes me as terrible. Also, clearly there's 8 people in this video having a good time. It may be a terrible game and boring to play, but without being able to play it yourself who knows? I respect that you withhold judgement on the gameplay until you play it yourself, it's fair of you. Also a good point to make is a game being financially a failure doesn't necessitate that the game itself was bad or not fun. Shenmue and Earthbound are some great examples of games that are amazing, but didn't sell well and financially were failures. A game that appeals to the lowest common denominator may have mass appeal and commercial success, but it may also be a shitty game as it's bland, uncreative, and average. I'm not trying to say FF14 1.0 is a niche hidden gem that was great but not well-received by the masses, just stating its financial failure in itself is NOT evidence the game was bad. No, actual evidence would've been the glitches and poor system optimization which made it unplayable for most. However, once those were fixed (as they were in subsequent patches) how does the actual game, its concept, and its execution play out? Anyway, I just wanted to say FF14 1.0 does deserve a chance just like any other game. I don't assume games are great or terrible based on what others SAY, but what I SEE and what I EXPERIENCE when I play the game.
Kind of wish we could have a 1.0 UI style option; not the same interface but just the elements themed as they were, like the HP and MP gauges, the fonts, etc.
I never remembered doing any instanced dungeons during 1.0, played on launch up to lvl43 or something but all we did was group grind world mobs... was this released later??
It's weird how mages didn't use their staffs in their casting animations. I guess it helped cut down on the number of animations devs needed to make for every class. 2.0 was similar since characters could use abilities and spells from other jobs they leveled up, but the animations at least had them hold their weapons.
Yep that was in there too and it had many of the same bosses. Difference being was that the All-Seeing Eye wasn't a boss, but it still harassed you throughout the stage and you couldn't target or fight it.
This was not a rookie dungeon in 1.0. It was an endgame raid. The best gear in the game dropped in these dungeons. Baatral the final boss of darkhold was originally the hardest fight in the game.
AV was an 8 man?! wow. This has serious XI vibes, which I loved, but XIV needed it's own identity and it has so much more to offer (sadly) than XI. I'm glad Yoshi P took it in the right direction.
Low key wish they could do something like this again. Like ik alot of people hates this style of combat but if they could do something like this for FFXI tho...
FFXIV 1.0 inherited the slow pace of FFXI. 1.0 makes more sense than 2.0+ to me. I can't understand the success of the actual XIV. Even tho i tried it at high level multiple times.
@@xxomnicloudxx Because in an MMO with combat like this it leads to long periods of doing literally nothing except waiting for something to become available ages later, which leads to bad and boring gameplay when you're supposed to be in an "exciting battle scenario".
Wait a minute. That background music when you just walk around in dungeon already existed in 1.0? I was quite sure that all music in a game was remade for ARR and later.
1.23 was legitimately becoming a great old-school MMO but it never would have reached a mass audience. I loved XI and would love to see another game like it.
Yeah, it's a shame they couldn't have kept it like this, and just continued to build upon it, like they were doing once a change in Directors happened. I'd say it was coming to a fair balance of FFXI and what we have now, in FF14(okay not NOW, because so much has been stripped from this game as of late, that they need to keep pushing out content to keep the interest up).
God 1.0 was such garbage, but I am glad people like you are archiving and creating what it used to be (and heaven forbid *could* be). Thanks for the video!
You are probably one of those that I used to kick from my parties due to not being able to play. That’s why you hate 1.0 scrub. 1.0 was the anti scrub game. Casuals are trash
FavianTube I feel like the animation is a big problem. The characters look like they're not involved in the fighting. In combat, the mages don't even have their weapons drawn and the tank doesn't looks like he's actually under attack. IMO, it robs the game of any sense of excitement or immersion. The characters look bored. As for the gameplay, I haven't played it so I wouldn't know about how it worked specifically but then again if I was looking for a game to play and this was the gameplay I found, I wouldn't be interested at all.
ff11 was a steaming pile of shit. the worst big MMO ever created. 1.0 looks like absolute casual shit, everything is slow, you can just walk around mobs without them attacking you... what a piece of shit game it was.
These dungeons were raids. All endgame dungeons were raids in 1.0. There was only one leveling dungeon in 1.0 annd that was totorak which was only 4 player. But because they never implemented level synch into 1.0 and there were other faster ways to level they decided against adding anymore. In 1.0 they experimented with many different styles of dungeons to see what people enjoyed the most for ARR. What they landed on was a more casual version of the endgame raid dungeons.
Are the other players bots? They seem so disciplined and organized and don't jump around like idiots on Crack and running into Aoes on purpose to see if they can run out at the last second to be like "brooooo didja see dat?!"
@@markb1170 think the problem with the two 8 man dungeons we got is A) all the cut scenes you are forced to watch and B) they were made back in 2.0 when the team was still learning how to make decent dungeons. I think if they made a new one it could be much better then castrum and preatorium.
I would even be happy with 5-man groups for dungeons ^^ The old 1 tankm 1 heal and 2 DPS but with the additionof 1 supporter ^^ I would really like it if there is a support category for the jobs where you can find time mage or green mage :) They buff the party for enhanched DMG and defence while their damage isn't that high, maybe even lower then healers.
@@MegaErik1990 well... bard and dancer are the classes that are the most dedicated to buffing, and most classes have SOME sort of buff/things they can use to help out
Might not be so bad in a single player game where you only do it once but if your expected to repeatedly run dungeons then no thanks. Everything takes so long to do and even though this is around the same length of a 2.0 dungeon it feels like its twice as long
