FFXIV - *CLEARED* with NO HEALER!! 

Thank you!! At first I didn't think it was possible actually until I heard people talk about it online and it actually worked!! :D

And Red Mage too :O

I like Xenos respond to people like that "Healer that cry that Tanks are now to strong are the same kind of healer that will NEVER clear a Dungeon what is impossible without a healer." *Many of them are ultra casuals and clear at best Extrem Trials (with absolut terrible parses) and even the often quoted "TOPless Healer" was made with 2 PLD (so Tanks that can spam heals like a Healer and have Cover a unique mitigation to cheese mechanics) WAR (also strong selfheal that he also can share with others) SMN (can also Rez _like a Healer_ ) RDM (can rez, can also spam a _Heal_ when he sacrifice damage and have his own raidwide damage mitigation with a _more incomming heal buff_ ) Dancer (best heal support from all dps imo) MNK (overall more incomming _heal_ group buff (like Redmage)) and Reaper (can spread a HoT) So in the end the create a whole team with also breaking two Rules of things you should avoid when you make your group (1. Not having the 5% (Means you have Tanks, Healer, Meele, Physical Range and Caster in your static) and 2. Having a double job (You should never have something twice in your static because some Class Stacking is from.. "meh" to absolut horrible and your Limit Break will take longer until its full)) just to compensate _somehow_ the missing healer, dont forget the fact that almost everyone of them probadly play better then 9/10 of the community. Imo they should use more Dots etc in High End and not this BIG INCOMMING BURST DAMAGE! *no damage at all for 30-45 seconds* Design like in Abyssos for example where many mechanics where also DoTs on the player (like High Concept) PS. Some Months ago people clear Dungeons or even Normal/Alliance Raids with _full Healer Groups_ ... where DPS/Tank Strike?

almost positive a team of all warriors can clear all a majority of the content currently in game barring anything that strictly enforces other roles somehow.

given that every tank has self-healing and overall take less damage, hell a whole party of tanks would have 80% damage reduction throughout the whole dungeon if done right

@@Volfur2251 yeah tanks are a little too tough for regular dungeon. though I do want to remind some healer that if team is at safe condition, than DO SOME DAMAGE!!! every job is dps in ff14

fact xD

I mean..It happens a lot of players started playing from 2024 afterall

This is especially funny because they picked a dungeon where Esuna ISN'T needed! Had they picked something like Kugane Castle with Vuln on the second boss or Castrum Abania that does Vuln AND Bleed on the last boss, this probably wouldn't work.

@@MMDTrxsh BRD fixes that with Paean.

To be fair, TOP was cleared without a Healer Job....note that I said 'Job'. Vercures, Clemencys, Summoner Phoenixs, and Reaper's broken sheild heal were still used of course. They also had to do Cover and death cheese to get past 'Magic Number'. But in reality, it's because TOP is supposedly the worst Ultimate in terms of design. Not like you can get away with something like this in DSR.

@@asteroidxarmageddon2354 Except the average player, let alone the average Ultimate raider can't do that. Those are extreme outliers that shouldn't be used as a basis for defending this irrational 'strike' that's going on.

@@grizzlyadams1929 Oh yeah Im fully aware of that it was done by, literally the best players on the planet. The only reason I said anything about it is because, you guess it, the healers that are on strike are using that healer-less Ultimate clear for one of their reasons why Healers and by extension, the game, are poorly designed. I still think it’s dumb that they are mad that casual content….you know….the content thats supposed to be cleared by everyone of any skill level, got cleared without a healer. Goes to show that some people in this community will complain about everything, if people will complain about a chair of course they’ll complain about this.

Healers are kinda bad if the *only* thing you need them for is savage raids

TOP can be clear without healer :)

@dinoblacklane1640 considering dungeons aren't hard to begin with... you can literally use 4 dps to do a dungeon. Or a healer with 3 dps. A tank isn't also needed either. So... your point is? Harder content. However, all roles need to be fill. You can't take a tank buster to the face during a raid. It's not the same.

@ultimechoubidou4208 yeah skill players at like .01% can if they execute right. Try pugging it or using a team that has poor coordination or messed at some point and you will see the same results.

@@Miyao05 This is using the Expert roulette dungeons A tank + 3 dps group would kill much faster than a 4 dps or 1 healer + 3 dps group Tanks generally deal 75~80% of the damage of a DPS. Healers generally do about 50% of the damage of a DPS DPS would need to either be chain healer, or would require one of the DPS to stop doing damage to heal whatever DPS ends up with aggro, which is difficult to control Meanwhile a tank can tank, dps, and heal at the same time. The tank needs to be more aware of their health, but the 3 DPS can do their job normally and not have to worry about juggling aggro or healing My point is this, you can clear an expert dungeon with any Comp But you will clear it the fastest with Tank + 3 dps

I get what you mean.

Yes thank you for understanding. Even though some classes can heal it doesn't necessarily make them a healer, and there is definitely no healer in this run.

The healer strike is pretty stupid for several reasons, this video doesnt really prove any point. And the movement is being headed by people that do not understand what they are talking about. 1. Levelling content such as dungeons and normal trials are not good measures, content like this and the content that was cleared during the media tour is never going to be super engaging for healers purely because the content isnt designed to be hard. If you think healers have nothing to do then you need to use extreme or harder level content because that is actually where most jobs, healers and others, actually are required to interact with their full toolkit 2. The dawntrail content and the content of this video that have been done healerless have both used warrior, a tank known to be absurdly good at surviving in dungeon style content, replicating them with a dark knight is a much more difficult propasition 3. Being able to do story dungeons without a healer is a GOOD THING actually, it means that if a group loses their healer to disconnect they can continue through the dungeon albeit at a slower pace, it means that even if your healer refuses to heal or spends the majority of the content on the floor then the group doesnt need to disband and requeue. And its not unique to healers being optional, tanks are also optional, you can clear any normal level dungeon with just a healer and dps, same as tanks with no healer. No single person should be able to completely prevent progress in content because they feel like it

@@DP9k thats no warrior in this video, its a gunbreaker. and while i'm not part of the healerstrike, because im not really a healer i do think its a good thing. because the point about the strike is not the strike itself but the talk about it. nobody with a brain would think a forum post would make enough player stop playing healer that it would make a big difference

@@DP9k My problem with the healer strike is that some of them are missing the point. They're attacking other jobs' self sustain abilities instead of the encounter design itself. The argument that this problem only applies to leveling and story content is only half true, because in well-optimized groups healers don't need to actually heal that much even for hard content and even Ultimates have been cleared without a dedicated healer. This is an encounter design issue. Or a healer job design issue. They need to make damage less predictable to necessitate more healing, or they need to make healer DPS more fun if they don't want to change their approach to fight design.

@@Zakon673 its an encounter design issue but we dont have any knowledge that the dawntrail encounters will be like that, and endwalkers last extreme zeromus is a fairly healer intensive fight where they need to make full use of their kits across several mechanics in a row, if dawntrail pulls more from that it will be fine. Additionally the top no healer clear was one very good group who planned the whole fight specifically around the ways to circumvent healer requirements, its not something feasible for most people playing the game and exists as an outlier. I could understand healers being unhappy with the state of their gameplay but those judgements simply cant be made about dawntrail until we actually get our hands on the content.

​@@DP9k ​@DP9k 1. You really don't think we can use dungeons to determine if dungeons are boring as a healer? Only extremes can be used to determine if dungeons are boring? Or are you saying the only fun content healers are allowed is the top end stuff? 2. So your answer to tanks probably have too much healing is don't worry everything I've seen only uses the absolute most broken healer tank? I can tell you now that while it is easier on warrior, any tank class can do it at 90. 3. This one I agree with you, it should not be an absolute requirement to have a healer in a dungeon, but it should be optimal. Large tank heals should require a GCD to use and should be designed so that the best option is to let the tank DPS not heal and the healer DPS and heal with OGCDs. As it is now the tank will always heal and it's better to get an actual DPS than a healers DPS.

Cleric stance would be so cool!

Alot of classes have a heal spell that doesn't make them a healer.

Thank you for understanding! Yeah, it's tough for those who enjoy healing.

I don't have one.

If TOP can be done without a healer, surely TEA can be done without a healer also lol

I did it with no healer. Pretty awesome right? I was quite surprised tbh

@@Wanderingplayer227 im proud

You have brain worms.