Not exactly important to know, but I'll still point out: if your Sage is running next to you between packs spamming E.Diagnosis, they're not bored or goofing, it's just fishing for the crit shield! It's a natural SGE behavior and indicates they are happy and content, like a cat curling it's tail, no need to worry.
@@CaetsuChaijiChthis hahahaha. As a white mage, I’m sad that there aren’t more mechanics that require me to use the lilies. I hate the feeling of just dumping them when running.
I feel that way about the Sage Balls too, at least we get mp for those, but something like Sch Energy Drain would be nice to feel like I'm not wasting Lilies/Adders.
@@koshi-dono I had 1 run where a healer died from trash aoes (probably because they either couldn't see or busy spamming their aoe). They died when we still had a nearly full, if not full, wall-to-wall pack. Careful management of cd with a last second holmgang. I laughed in the face of danger as bloodwhetting came off cd just as holmgang was about to drop off, went from 1 to full in a single hit. By the time they ran back, the pack was nearly dead.
being a tank main, the number 1 thing ive learned is to just trust the healer to do their job. especially in dungeons. just do your mit rotation and if it looks like youre gonna die, pop invuln. worst case you wipe to mobs, and then its just a learning experience for the healer. the only way to know your limits is to test them (or have someone test them for you lol) obviously different in higher tier content.
Idk I've learned to not trust the healers I keep getting ones that aren't good at their job and im a slow tank because I keep getting healers that seem to be unable to keep up especially after a "Just trust me bro"
@TetsuRiken in those instances you just gotta take advantage of the fact that you are the defacto "leader" of the party as the tank. a quick bit of communication with your healer can turn these situations around. they may be used to running with a tank they know so they just can't anticipate your actions. sometimes you have to adjust the amount you're pulling, or checking in with yourself that you're using absolutely every tool you have available to you. sometimes, I've honestly just given them a hearty pat on the back, a "you can do it!" and that bit of confidence boost can give them a proverbial level up.
@corwinchapman8270 Indeed, my typical approach to dungeons is to pull like I normally do. And if things go wrong because I pulled more than the healer can take, I just take the blame. Often, I have found the healers step up and want to try again after that! 😊
I was told by many i am nothing but a green DPS. Unless people are under 20% i shouldn't be healing as a white mage. I... Completely disagreed with this mentality. If they hit 30% it's because either multiple people stood in the spill deadly Orange juice and it blitzed them while i was healing, They actived a move that drains hp. Or they ran out of range/around a corner while i was casting. Really the only times. I Dps between keeping the party alive until the last 1/5th of the mobs health. heals first then Comes DPS. Make sure your healer is like your backpack. behind you and secured in place.
I just tell people when tanking or healing. It's like a game of tag of war with your counterpart, but the goal isn't who can pull the other over. It's about keeping the rope marker in the middle. A tank and healer in sync with each other is a beautiful thing.
One note about sages, they can gain more toxicon charges by breaking an aoe/single target shield placed on themselves so they might pull ahead or intentionally stand in an aoe to force an additional stack and gain more damage. Pneuma is also often used as a damage option on trash whenever it's up so I wouldn't count on it for healing.
Both of those tricks make sense, and used smartly is a damage gain. However, I have honestly never seen a sage do either of those things! That doesn't mean sages won't do that, but more to say that they are the outliers rather than the norm, hence why I think expecting pneuma to be used for healing as a default makes sense! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Pneuma in dungeons runs *should* be used as close to on CD as possible. Damage wise it's a Toxicon with better reach, so using it on trash pulls is pretty common for most Sage mains (if it's an alt job for the player, they may not be thinking about it as a damage tool), then during bosses it's an easy heal without losing damage. In a random expert roulette it's not uncommon to get 7 or so uses out of it. So it really depends on how comfortable the player is with the rest of the kit
@@CaetsuChaijiCh some do that but I wouldn't do it deliberately in an alliance raid for instance, where AoEs can kill instantly. sometimes I throw the shields at the main tank and not my team's tank. anything to get that shield broken XD
A borderline suicidal but somewhat noteworthy thing you'll occasionally see with particularly headstrong White Mages is them intentionally pulling a single mob off of you- they might be fishing for a few Liturgy of the Bell procs. Every time that healer gets poked by the annoying imp or jellyfish, the entire team (including the tank) gets a 400 potency heal- after 5 GCDs, it's like 2000 free heal potency. Rarely needed, but it's a fun thing myself and a few Free Company people do.
Ngl i really enjoy the partnership with my healers and have a great time putting my life in their hands ❤ Also playing a tank has made me give zero effs about wiping. We just adjust and go again. Plus as a drk I'm not scared of dying...i do it on purpose at least once per dungeon lol
I think as a community, we should be more okay with wipes. if we were used to wiping more often in regular content, I think it would make trying to do ex or savage in pf less gruelling. fewer people would get discouraged by an early wipe and stay longer.
I noticed that a DRK tank is a joy to work with as a WHM as they are just so darn hard to kill and as a pure healer, Living dead isn't a concern as I know I have the heals to knock it out.
@@rifleman2c997 Hard to kill? A DK? Uh no. Darks as squish. They have less mitigation options than every other tank. Pala and War are the ones healers can legit turn their brain off while healing.
This video came at a hysterical time. I came out if a roulette in solm al where a tank complained i wasnt healing enough as whm. I kept them around 1/3rd, used primarily benediction as the heal bc no lily dps refund. They kept doing wall pulls, never died, and kept fearfully running around outside of my giant asylum. We both had up to date SAVAGE gear, and i thought we were vibing with advanced big pulls. They ask me to heal them more, i say its okay bene is off cooldown. They still never die.... And for the rest of the dungeon they start using tank lb1 on mob pulls
I will be brutally honest to you. I see WHM that do what you do get kicked from groups if they don't listen and 'heal more'. Benediction often doesn't land when it should due to input lag/server lag, and the inherent time delay before the instant and when the effect itself goes off. I do not know a single tank that enjoys playing alongside WHM mains, because WHM lets their health sit far too low way too often.
@@crowdemon_archives If I see a WHM consistently letting me drop below half, I pop superbolide on pulls REGULARLY. This usually freaks out the healer enough they stop playing chicken with my health and the time for the party. You respect my time? I pull safe and fast. You try and ec out every last bit of your kit for all of 2% more efficiency over the course of a dungeon? Nope. I will pull slower, pop bolide, I will drive you insane on purpose. If a tank's HP ever drops below 50% you failed your job as a healer. ESPECIALLY as WHM or AST. You can keep 2 regeneration spells up 24/7 on a tank at no mana cost due to the freebie casts you have during regen times.
I may not use it on bosses in dungeons - odds are pretty good the tank won't drop to the point where it will even trigger, even with a tankbuster in there, unless something has gone HORRIBLY wrong. And that's an aetherflow stack I can use for damage instead. But on trash pulls? Heck yeah, Excog is a perma buff on my tank. It just means more ground slapping.
Another great video! I feel like this is important to watch even if you're not a tank. I can't tell you how many people do NOT give me the courtesy of stepping into my bubble :c They made the WHM one nice and big now but the AST dome is still pretty small and people NEVER step in
Thats just when you yoink them in with rescue tbh 😂 sometimes people just dont know whats going on esp in alliance raids. If they complain you just say you misclicked 🤫😉
Hearing how each kind of healer works helps me understand why I gravitate towards scholar more overall than Astro. I like both, but scholar feels a lot more stable to me, and also plays to my tendencies as a healer as well. I also find it hard and uncomfortable to anticipate damage spikes a lot of the time, I've been trying to keep an eye on what mitigations the tank is using to see if that helps me, but so far things are inconclusive. Scholar does requires a lot more brain power for me to play though, so I can definitely see the "doesn't handle surprises as easily". I think at peak performance I'm better on Scholar than Astro, but Astro is the safer choice for me to play if I'm tired and just want to do some story or roulettes. Though there is no glee like the fat shields I can put on people, maybe that's what really makes scholar the winner in my heart.
Sometimes it's one kind of silly thing that makes it work! Personally I always played Scholar before sage came around, and what made me like sage even more was... Genuinely... That my favored ability sacred soil was even easier to use on sage as kerachole! Obviously other things stand out as well, but that was the initial turning point!😂
Basically, it's nice to play a bit a everything, so we can understand how healing works from a tank's pov, and same in reverse. One thing I should add is : Trust your WHM, and don't use your panic button "invu" if you didn't see the benediction pop. Nothing worse as a WHM to click on bene, then see the tank use invu 0.5s later, cause he was scared, and go back to 1hp.
“And while it is always a good idea to communicate when you intend to drop low to use an invulnerability, it is especially important with Barrier Healers. If they blow all of their resources trying to save you when it wasn’t needed, it can mean that they have nothing left for you once your invulnerability wears off.” THANK YOU. I can’t even begin to tell you how frustrating it is to express this exact sentiment as a Scholar and to just be told that maybe I shouldn’t be spending my resources at the start of an encounter or that I should have zero issues healing them back up to full after the Gunbreaker hits Superbolide after I used Excog, Recitation, and Sacred Soil, as if healing them is the problem and not the fact that my resources are gone for no reason and it could’ve easily been solved by the tank COMMUNICATING and just letting me know that they were going to do that.
Haha, yeah I've had this problem too! The worst part is the only thing you can do is hope that the reason they aren't using anything is because they will invuln, and thats a 50/50 bet, because the other 50% of the time, they aren't using anything, and then they die xD
I don't mind white mages letting my health get low before a bene, but please keep in mind that if you let it get TOO low, I could conceivably get killed in the time it takes for your button press to register in the game's netcode. Seen that happen too often lol
As a healer main, tanks for the love of god please understand that 3/4 healers DONT have a gap closer (and the one only has 1 charge on a 45 sec cd) and nothing about a healers kit will help you if you jump from one pack to the next and run away from your healer like you are running away from your problems. Here is to hoping that DT brings more gap closers to healers. Edit: I would also like to add that running away from you healer also has the added down fall of putting your healer on the back foot and force them to have to play catch-up with the damage going out rather than them staying ahead of it, forcing them to spend precious CD's at the beginning of the fight instead of at the mid or end of a fight. This can also have the added negative of possibly slowing down the run as take for example with a WHM: If a WHM is forced to spend the start of a fight on healing you up that means they arent spending that time on holy spams which are best used at the begining of the fight BEFORE you take lots of damage and it can be difficult to slip into holy spam mid fight and if their ogcd's are already burned that means they have to spend MORE gcd's on healing you. This means LESS dmg going out from the WHM therefore slowing down the run.
wait, some tanks *don't* try to constantly run away from you and you're *supposed* to do damage at the start of the fight instead of trying to catch up to them? Preposterous!
Eh, I disagree. If both tank and healer are competent, they will have sprint on sync, the healer will have regens or shields flowing, and the tank can pull and group the enemies ahead while the healer DOTs each enemy on the way to the wall. I prefer my tanks go as fast as they possibly are able to, using every single gapcloser they have to start grouping enemies ASAP. The tank will NOT be dying by the time you catch up to them, as they will have popped their CDs and will have their healing options available while you take the added 2-3 seconds to catch up.
More often than not, I as healer am the one that's ahead of the tank and half the time taking aggro of the next mob right before they do. This is no issue, if a tank actually is fast in a dungeon, my sprint is always ready for synced use of their sprint, and I'm never far enough behind to be unable to heal them mid-pull.
I very much agree. I avoid using gap closers during a mass pull to avoid getting to far ahead of my healer so they can do what they planned instead on being stuck panicking as everything is suddenly crumbling around them. Learn the general aggro distance and sprint right before you end up 'face pulling' and in most dungeons you will make it to the last pack in a pull before the full 20s sprint duration (when used out of battle) ends. Dont forget the use of self healing for aggro generation if mobs start too spread out for a simple AoE to hit them all or they have a spawning animation (some packs during dungeons like Amaurot or Troia) before you can actually hit them (very useful for PLD clemency usage during pulls or even a WAR equilibrium)
I'm currently informing myself to start my first character as a healer! As a Monster Hunter Veteran, I noticed something specifically, DPS on all cost. Even if you're supporter or tank, in the end, DPS matters. In the end everyone want to spend less time doing an instant/raids what so ever, aslong everyone is alive, then the job has been done well. Great insight to the perspective of the tank and I'll try to keep them in mind! :)
I tend to take the "If I'm not dead, I'm not worrying" approach as tank. I trust in my healers and if I do die, then I just reduce my aggressiveness when it comes to mob pulling.
If you're playing with randoms and not friends i don't think you should ever plan to fall low on hp to use the immunity. On avg there are 2 pulls between bosses and you should have enough def abilities to split between these 2 and keep the immunity for the case if the dps are slacking enough to run out of the def abilities. On the other hand as a healer you should not treat someone else's hp as a resource as their perception is just as important, if tank uses more than needed def abilities (or worse immunity into your full heal wasting immunity) you're making your life harder for the next pull. Tank's only last 1hp matters mentality is true only if tank has trust in you to not let them die and not use their own resources to survive.
It is difficult, because if the tank knows as much about how your job plays as you do, there is equally a possibility the tank is confused why you are trying so hard to keep them at high hp 😅 Ultimately the best you can do is adjust to your group, and see what works best. I've certainly had healers I didn't trust to let me drop low, and healers that seemed to know exactly what they were doing 😊 both cases with randoms!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh It's true that you judge everyone's vibe to decide the approach. But generally if i tank and i drop below 10% hp i'll always use the immunity as even healer's latency could kill me even if they seem trustworthy. On healer's side i'll keep stuff like benediction as the last oGCD to use which naturally results in tank never falling below 40%. On WHM I don't remember last time i used GCD to heal during a pull, 7 oGCDs plus stuns and regen is so much you most of the time don't even reach for Ben or Bell (and Assize tends to be accidental heal as main goal is dmg). Unless it's a warrior you should never let tank drop below 25% as this is the territory where human mind can ruin your plan (especially you don't test Gunbreakers with full heal as there is nothing more tragic than casting Ben into Superbolide to set hp to 1).
@@WikiED Every tank I know will start self healing at 50% as healers have so many skills in their kits (every tank I know ALSO plays healer) that there is literally no reason for a tank's health to drop super low outside of standing in stupid and vuln stacks that go along with that. If the healer gets pissy at that (and I have had a few ask in very pissy moods why I cast heals on myself mid pull as a paladin) I laugh and tell them I figured I had to do their job too as they seemed to check out and become a glare mage. Like 3/4th your skills are a heal of some sort...USE THEM.
First :depend on a dung but being out of mit for boss fight feel WRONG . Second: second as tank main i find it first INSULTING THAT A HEALER WOULD LET ME GET BELLOW 30% IN CASUAL CONTENT,second i died a ton of time by trusting my healer and most of them savage raiders doing dailys,third for me to press a mit i am unable to press a damage button so that dps lost.
This is more general, but when I play tank or healer at the start of a dungeon I like to always check the other's main weapon level to get a sense of how familiar with the job they might be. It's not the be all end all but it's a good baseline to know what to expect before I communicate about big or small pulls.
So as someone newer to the game and that plays a healer often I find myself sometimes panicking because the tank loses 3/4 of their HP in the span of a single gcd (trash pull not a tank buster). Is there something I'm doing wrong or what because I often find myself needing to spam my big heal non-stop to keep them standing because I'll do the same content with a different tank and barely heal at all. Idk if there is really a question in there but it is so hard to know which situation you're in until it's a problem.
As you say you are a newer player, there can be a few different reasons: 1) in lower level content, you (and your tank) will have less tools to work with, which sometimes can lead to more spiky behavior, and you having to rely on spam healing. This is somewhat normal, especially in really large pulls, which are more commonly available in lower level content for some reason. 2) if the tank is spiking that hard, and it is NOT a super big pull, it is possible they are under geared. 3) if none of the above, then it is possible the tank is not using their defensives smartly. I talk a bit about this in my mirror of this video (tanks from a healers perspective), as it is perfectly possible it is not your fault if you are trying everything you can! If you are interested, here is a link to that other video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qCR8b6YfAtI.htmlsi=YqawKAmItsbIx6vy
The tanks either aren't using their mitigation skills smartly. Or you are in Stormblood or below (anything under 70) content in which case mob and boss auto attacks can crit which can lead to unlucky chains where a tank will just get crumpled. While leveling, people can get under geared which is always noticeable on tanks first and healers second. Keeping geared as a tank will show immediately on their survivability. Healers will notice a huge increase in their heals with a few changes of gear. DPS will notice their numbers spike but the group at large will only notice it taking slightly longer to kill something and otherwise feel no danger so it isn't a big deal.
@@CaetsuChaijiCh but yes i only run expert as a warrior tend to happy when i see a sage and kinda when i see scholar but cry when i see the other 2. Gimme those shields and ill heal myself
In terms of healer DPS, while playing some current 90 dungeons as a Sage, I can expect to be up to ~45% of the party’s damage depending on the party, but with my equivalently geared static members I’m about even with the higher DPS damage numbers at something averaging ~23% of the party damage. Not that I would have a way of seeing that or anything.
Think my one bane as a shield healer is Crit chance. I sometimes try to give my tank a strong pre-pull shield just fot crits to fail me several times in a row as we are running to next pull. Some dungeons It is a crit lollapalooza, and other times you'd think I was running around as a Det/Pie healer x.x
Could be coincidence, but crit shields seem to proc way more when tank is at low health. Just suddenly comes in clutch when I have to stop and do a life saving shield and you get to see that absurdly big yellow bar save the day.
@@cattysplat It is more along the line of 'Crits don't happen when I want them to' more than 'they don't seem to happen at all.' I was more or less being facetious rather than being serious. It's like the old idiom of watching paint dry or watching a pot you are waiting to boil. It is inevitable that it will happen, just seems to be less often when expected to happen.
@yornam5391 They are short for Determination and Piety. Attributes in the game FFXIV. The insinuation I was making was to say I felt like a healer prioritizing those stats in my build since critical chance didn't happen when I wanted it to.
It's hard to tell a good healer from a terrible healer up until the last second. Where the good healer will top you up just as keikaku and the bad healer is just starting to cast Cure II. Or at least that was the conclusion we got with a friend back in SB/early ShB. I guess things may have changed since then, but I've been healing since then so haven't had to think about it. What could this healer possibly have to do that's more important than healing? Watching the no thoughts head empty yoshi video.
This is actually an interesting counterbalance to the same thing I said about tanks from a healers perspective: Not using cooldowns to fall into the danger zone to get more value out of your invulns look exactly the same as a tank that doesn't know what they are doing. From that exact same logic, as you say, a healer who is letting the tank drop low to then heal them in bigger bursts, looks exactly the same as a healer who forgot to heal in the first place! ^^'
Am I like... one of the few white mages that heals obsessively if anyone is missing any HP or insta resurrects if even one person dies no matter who it is...?
@@TheGhostFart Dps craven tanks forget the purpose of a healer is to heal. Dps is when we're between healing the Dps for jumping in the spilled orange juice. If your running a warrior then most healers just leave you alone until your dropping below their safety limit. I've had tanks bitch i tossed out a rez on a DPS because they fell in battle due to sliding off the arena. Heals first DPS second. The white mage hate is hugely around either over healing or Holy spamming. This is why i am building up a greater refusal to contuine doing end content. After eighty people get much more obnoxious. Not even worth it half the time. Why heal when i could just live the easy life of DPSing.
My first healer was Scholar, which I played to 90 before trying any other healer seriously. I came to a realization: barrier healers are for the type of people who still have faith in their fellow FFXIV players, who believe the tank won't need saving every single pull because they use their mitigation correctly. Pure healers are for when you've given up and embraced the chaos, knowing you can save them no matter how few of their buttons they press.
As WHM main, I actually just pop Medica II at the beginning of a fight, pop my dot on most mobs or just the tankiest ones, and then HOLY SPAM until BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY for OG Holy damage. I'll use Benison throughout, and also otherwise pop HoTs fairly regularly until the fights are over. However, I've definitely been caught off-guard by dungeons that crit for crazy amounts.
As a Tank Main, I don't expect my healers to heal me, I'm for the most part self sustained. If anything the less healing they do the better, as long as the group is sustained.
I main a 90 scholar in end game content,i usually let my fairy do alot of the work and with aerherstacks i got an instant heal also dont think ive ever had a tank die on me lol actually the other night in expert 90 dungeons i had a dark knight that never needed healing they were juiced and had base 132k hp lol and self healed between my fairy and there self heal i was just a 3rd dps 😂😂
@@CaetsuChaijiCh So true. When I raided in savage I had to learn every mitigation a dps had so I can yell at them to use those specific abilities so we don’t get 1 shot by the boss >.>
I'm not smart enaugh to play healer, thats why i play shieldhealer: has tank shield? yes - deal damage no - reapply shield and throw additinal heals as required worked fine up to the lvl 90 extreme trial, but you may neex to actually learn your class/job for difficult content.
I've not fully watched the video, only about a few minutes in, but my two cents into the pot; As a Tank, don't pay attention to your hp numbers, your healer is doing that for you
my perception as a tank main is this " will i survive the next hit?" if the answer is yes it makes no different if i am at 100% hp or 0.5% hp healer is doing their job right as far as i am concerned
My MCH main friend often SGE's as my healer main ass tanks, and we adore abusing each other's health bars. I never feel safer as a tank, and we never run out of resources unless the dps are shit and can't kill anything
tl;dr wall to wall pull or you're wasting everyone's time WHM: wait for their stun duration to fall off from Holy to pop your tank CDs SCH/AST/SGE: do whatever
@@anteprs7908 Do that crap in ARR, HW and Storm and your asking to become a floor Tank. The Crit ratios of mobs in those three are well known to be higher and bypass damage mitigation aka your low level healer can't keep up due to lacking all the better healing options you get at high levels. Stop being a ADHD DPS Spaz and just run the dungeon like a normal person.
Dude I hate every healer that just waits for that benediction bullshit. It’s so fuckin annoying I’d rather you just heal me and let the dps do your job
DPSing is a healers job also. Sure you could say ''Focus on healing'' But if you do that then someone else might get annoyed because you dont DPS. So healers will Lose/lose no matter what they choose to do. Doing Damage as a healer is more optimal.
I absolutely hate the way the FF14 community treats the healer role. By pressuring healers to always be DPSing and not heal everyone to full, they just make gameplay unnecessarily stressful for everyone. Just heal to full and stop expecting healers to do 2 jobs... you know, like literally every other game.
As a tank main, all power to you. If there is no dmg check, that makes it mandatory even for healers to go full berserk, I have no problem with your style.
It's fine to focus on healing if you feel that you need to in order to keep people alive. If you do casual content it will usually be ok regardless. For veteran healers they usually LIKE to push their DPS. it gives them something to do between heals.
bruh idk why this was in my recomended, I don't even play FFXIV, can't afford it lmao also, FYI you start the video with 0 FFXIV context, and there is none in the title either I spent the first 10 seconds wondering if that was for a specific videogame, or talking about gaming in general, or all classic MMORPGs, I only started understanding when you started dropping specific classes names.
Here's a tip! If you check the video description and scroll down through it, RU-vid itself has a portion that says what game it is! This isn't always filled in because the content creator (in this case, me) has to fill it in - which I did! 😊 Also, the free trial of ffxiv is infinite length and covers the first 70 levels of the game, so you could, if you want to, play the game for hundreds if not thousands of hours, for free 😉 I do understand the confusion though!
The problem that I come across is 90% of barrier healers in particular sage players play the sage, as if they were playing a white mage and the entire team, suffers and often wipes because of it even when the sage player is level 90 and they should know how to play their class by now. Now I’m saying this as a person who has hit level 90 on every class in the game so I’ve played every healer in the game, and I know how each one of them plays and I often find that most other people who play healer even at level 90 are lacking And I’m not the only one who’s noticed this my endgame friends have commented on this as well and because they’ve gotten used to my style of healing, which is very aggressive healing with DPS when everyone is healed always ensuring that I keep the team alive first and foremost and DPS second that they don’t like playing with randoms anymore as healers so now when I play with them more often then not they ask me to play the healer because they don’t trust anyone else to do it.
After scanning the comments I will make the comment so many tanks think, but few ever say. If a healer lets you drop below 50% they failed. Healer damage is only required in savage. Stop being lazy as a healer. Green DPS is so low it is pointless (Sage being the exception as they heal while causing damage). The days of Sch out DPSing the DPS on boss fights are long gone! (Man I miss my DOTs...) Every healer has Lucid Dreaming and some other method of regaining mana quickly. Use them. Actually heal instead of using 'oh crap' skills as basic heals. They exist to save a run, not for you to get 2-3 more AoE spells off that deal about as much damage as a DPS's one AoE. Green is for support. If your tank's health isn't above half, your job isn't done yet to allow for damage to be on your mind. Yes, certain skills reward you with more healing done if their HP is low. That is an 'ass save' built into it. Not something for you to fish for. Tanks love healers that keep them healed and despise healers that allow their health to constantly get low. Is a healer rewarded for letting the tank get low on HP? Honestly? NO! You are burning skills designed to save a party from a wipe. On a clean run those skills do not get used, ever. Benediction tops the list of "if you use this you admit to failing the one job you had to do" button. If a tank pulls slow, it is because they lost all trust in your ability to do your job. Drill into your head as a healer "the tank dies at 50%" and every tank will LOVE YOU. The main reason Warrior is so loved by tank mains and why they keep petitioning for the other 3 to get the same treatment is literally due to the tank community at large despising healers for not doing the one job they have to do, heal.
"Tanks love healers that keep them healed" lol no, not the competent ones. Why are you so afraid of going below 50%? There is nothing in a dungeon that can take you from 50% to 0 in the space of 1 GCD, not unless you're deliberately standing in all the aoes at once. I know how to roll my cooldowns and how potent a healer's ogcds can be. I DON'T want them spamming healing because a healer who doesn't do damage can turn a 13min dungeon run into a 25min one. You only THINK a healer's damage doesn't make a difference; I assure you it very much does, and the difference in runtimes with a party where _everyone_ is spamming their damage buttons is very noticeably different from one where one member is sandbagging, yes, even when that member is a support job. It's also safer: I use fewer cooldowns as a tank when everything dies fast. I'm not scared when i approach 50%, especially not when i can SEE the excog buff on me. I'm more unhappy any time a wall pull lasts for longer than the length of one strong cooldown and two stacked short ones.
@@JelisW your "Tanks love healers that keep them healed" lol no, not the competent ones "wierd toxic flex if oyu cant see not having ot worry about hp is super helpful for tanks i got more to do then the healer anyway keep mob agro,postionings keeping my mit and dps at on at all time and watching mine and the parties hp while one of this is fully gotten rid of if the healer does his job . 50% is safe but going bellow to 20 to 30 % is bad i know you clearly a raider and dont care for player who just wanna play and relax aka the casual for who this content is made for them and your TOXIC mindset isnt helping. "I DON'T want them spamming healing because a healer who doesn't do damage can turn a 13min dungeon run into a 25min on" hahahahaahahah ha BRO GREEN DAMAGE AINT TURNING 13 MIN INTO 25 (at best is 15% of the overall damage if a pro player 20% tops )and nobody can do 13 min dung run also nobody is FORBITTING YOU TO DPS BUT DONT LET TANK GET BELLOW 20 TO 30% HP and letting him get bellow 50% also is a sign of lack of skill it A casual content how can you excuse ppl goign so low in the easier content AS A HEALER IF THE TANK DID HIS JOB .Also most ppl want ot do chill run nobody want ot speedrun this stuff so chill out and stop acting like 2 more min are world ending you raiders are truly a lost hope stay i nyour raids and do dailys only with full teams dont ruin our content .
@@anteprs7908 @anteprs7908 so explain to me WHY going below 50% is bad. Exactly what makes it bad. Your unwarranted feelings of fear don't count, because those feelings have no reason if the healer doesn't let you die. "Nobody can do 13min dungeon run" lol try again. My fastest three logged runs of level 90 dungeons that involved standard duty finder light parties and not a 3dps premade are: -smileton at 12min 3s during patch 6.1, so before we massively outgeared it -stigma dreamscape at 12min 53s -The Aetherfont at 13min 7s, back in July during patch 6.4 When everyone presses damage buttons, things die fast, and everyone has to do less.
@@JelisW going bellow 30% can get you killed . Those feeling have reason because i died +40 time to this shit and 1 of those time wad with a new player only .you a speedrunner nice for you but lady 90% of players are casual and wanna play for fun and to relax you want the opposite so if you cant see the isdue there putting you wishes over the party that on you and doing that in content made for casual also .
From a tank's perspective, your HP is not your problem so you shouldn't spend time stressing over it. Your job is to keep everyone else alive by making sure everything is hitting you and to not die, you have a button that when you press it will stop you from dying for several seconds if the healer is struggling. Other than that just let them handle their job and don't whine about being low constantly because you think this is some SAO style death game where you die for real if you die in game.
I try my best to describe how the healers toolkits work, highlighting things that a tank might care about.😊 Also, most of the footage is a tanks perspective, of each healer 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Tanks care about comfort first. We care NOTHING about what is efficient. Keep the HP over 50% and everyone is happy. Ride that 30% and under crap and many healers become hated and blacklisted. There is a reason why some healers seem to have such long ques...tanks are black listing them so they can't ever get partied with them again. You can explain it however you want. People want chill and happy. They don't care about efficiency and getting the most from every skill. Overheal is always preferable.
@@Nempo13 Well, as a healer, having to heal more that necessary (meaning not use my healing in the most evective way), and dealing less damade, that does not make me happy.
i burn my lilies between pulls, most look at me like tf this whm wasting heals? Lol Lily system is just that bad, most tanks self heals make it useless heal wise, plus Regen heals way more too if i am to use a GCD heal on a tank adding lily heal useless further. Too easy to be overcapped on Lilies.
"You don't have to be scared of it. It just heals you." are the most reassuring words ive ever heard, as a newbie tank that gets jumpscared by any line that points at me, i definitely would have been like "uhhh i dont know this fight mechanic"
I had someone once tell me that "warning healers isn't necessary any good healer knows when an invuln is up" and I feel like that's an incredibly toxic position to take. Sometimes shit on screen gets chaotic and you don't have time to stare lovingly at the buff list so warn your goddamn healers please, it takes 2 seconds to turn an invuln into a party chat macro with a sound effect and it saves both you and the healer time and panic thank you for coming to my TED talk
Not only that, but a lot of players don't even know what the buff icon for the invuln is! It's obvious when you have the action yourself of course, but not all healers have even leveled a tank 😅 As you say, it takes so little to give the warning!
My most vivid memory of playing AST was in the last SB story dungeon (level 69) with a PLD tank I was vaguely acquainted with. Quickly noticed that they would start to use clemency when they hit 60% health. After the dungeon, the PLD chewed me out for not spamming benefic 1 to fish for benefic 2 procs during the trash pulls. I was so baffled, but I didn't argue since a friend continually sang the praises about how amazing this tank was and I didn't feel like making a big deal about it. I still remember that run every once and a while and all I can think is "but why??".
Proof of why we need videos like this. Even the best tank might have no idea how a healer actually works. It sounds like they're considered an "amazing" tank by virtue of not dying. For most people, not dying is kinda the baseline and how good you are depends on how much damage you do while not dying. Spamming Clemency will keep them alive, but it also makes the fight take longer and thus require more resources anyway.
@@GameGod77 Nobody cares about freecure, we use Cure 1 sometimes if we are afraid that cure 2 isn't gonna make it in time because it casts slower. If dps has lost half hp then cure 1 will probably top him off and you have tiny bit more time to dps. But dps taking damage often means they are not going to stop taking damage so time is on the essence and regen wouldn't save them. That's especially in crystal tower raids in couple places when tanks aren't doing their job. On the record i've had cases where even Cure 1 didn't cast in time.
@@seonteeaika Preach! I spend most of my time in the Crystal tower raids Rezzing DPS and Healers in OTHER groups. I've had more then a few tanks forget to slap their Emnity effect on and it's led to issues. Though DPs dancing in AOE's is also a close second. Trying to avoid AOEs ourselves while doing heals and Damage is why so many people refuse to play healers now days on my server. They get stressed out. Having played healers in over a half dozen MMO's this is a unique issue with FF14's Culture.
I'm a savage WAR tank and a SCH healer for funsies. As a warrior, I see: WHM = I'm gonna get low so keep my own cooldowns on point, AST = same as WHM but try not to pop my good stuff when their good stuff is also about to go out, SCH and SGE = happy tank noises, I'll be fine unless something goes horribly wrong and even then I'll still probably be fine if I'm in level 60 content or higher. (I've solo'd a LOT of stuff as a warrior lately.) As a SCH, I prefer a WAR tank because I know they're basically immortal and it's all the more AoW I'll be able to do, but the only tank I get frustrated with are "cooldowns are for bosses only" types. Tanks, dear dear tanks, IT'S THE OPPOSITE. Bosses don't need cooldowns nearly as much as a pack of 10 angry trash mobs wailing on you do.
There is also a slight funny aspect to ARR, Heavensward and Stormblood content in that mobs and boss auto-attacks can crit. This is something removed from the game in Shadowbringers content onwards. It can produce sudden spikes in damage when the tank suddenly gets a chain of crits, especially noticeable on paladin because crits are unblockable. Combined with the lack of OGCs for healers in lower level content, can make for some very sudden moments the tank takes spike damage at completely random intervals. Usually a consistent healer will not have a problem with this, but a lazy or risk for more damage healer can make random tank death far more likely.
As a sage please don't grab the whole dungeon unless I'm ready, or run too far ahead of me, I cannot heal from across the map... I don't have many nuke healing options, so I have to be protactive in preventing the damage instead. Be kind to your local barrier healers
Chain strategem somtimes... lol. as SCH is my main healer, i can confirm that i also use chain strategem somtimes. in fact, its CD is actually 2-3x longer than whats written on it. 🤣
As a tank i learned to sometimes go in raw when it comes to pulling with a WHM, they like to spam holy then heal you up in between it, so if you pop a strong mitigation right as your going into the end of the pull then more times than not the WHM is going to immediately stun everything and all that time being mitigated is going to be wasted on a long pause period of nothing hitting you, so when your WHM is prone to doing that, go in with weak or low cooldown skills then after they holy'd the enemies enough to where they are immune to stunning then pop your stronger ones.
it's why i like to pop divine benison on tanks before they sit down to burn the trash, gives them some early mit as i go to swift holy into PoM holy spam
As a SCH main, it never ceases to amaze me just how much a difference basic skill levels are when it comes to tanking, perhaps never more pronounced than watching a GNB blow through all your mit cooldowns and is still dying like he's half naked.
I appreciate any video that does not use "x healers are reactive, and x healers are proactive" because it's misleading and wrong even on a general situation. Also, the "warn healers before doing Ult things" is for all healers. I'd also say you under-sold Excogitation. Level cap duties, many pulls can be done with Recitation Excog and nothing else. It's a stupid as hell tool.
Oh excog is insanely effective! The main reason I didn't want to oversell it is because I know Scholar mains that find it unhelpful simply due to how it can end up dudding at times! 😊
As a healer i know why they do it.. but I just don't do it to people. I don't want to scare the shit out of a tank in a random unimportant dungeon just for the sake of uptime. It's silly. Just keep 'm nice and topped up...or at the very least above 50%. The difference is neglegable in random roulettes or you're running with random people. I did some tests with this and it really didn't make much of a difference at all. It made a difference when we ran it with a group of the same good people that knew how to run their classes... which in roulettes is rare. And the average tank really doesn't like this low hp stuff.. mostly because they don't know.
I do agree, and when I'm playing healer, I usually don't let the tank drop too far down either, exactly because it can have the effect that the tank starts playing unpredictably because they don't trust me 😅 this indirectly makes it suboptimal to greed too hard with this!
@@CaetsuChaijiChAt the same time; especially when running Unreal's the healers seem to greed a little too much. They want to keep uptime high and my health is usually pretty low,... but then as a tank I know another tankbuster or raidwide is going to come soon. I've died plenty of times because of this. I ended up tankswapping with a tank buddy all the time just to avoid us dying. It gets silly.
Huh... so I guess this explains why I encounter more wipes with other WHM/AST, some of ya'll are a little *too* cocky with the "don't worry I got this bro" last minute emergency healing, especially in lower level dungeons, lol.
I think one thing that tanks should know with barriers is that your mit greatly increases the the value of barriers. So dont wait for your health to go down to mit do it immediately once you stop to dps the mobs
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Yeah, should always have some sort of migration up, PLD at least has a proper cycle with them so theres always something up. But theres one tiny adjustment to make: In dungeons, if your healer is a WHM, delay starting that migration cycle by like 6 seconds so the first two holy stuns dont get wasted.
Actually it doesn't matter if you're mitigating damage done to your shield or your health. Barrier is just your health, effectively (if anything it's slightly *worse* to mitigate barriers, because they can theoretically expire unlike your health). It makes no sense to pop defensives to make barriers last longer. It's far more important to mitigate bursts of damage. Now using mitigation only when you go low is a noob signal, because it's what makes sense to do from an instinctual standpoint. But what you should be doing is pop your defensives before you know you will take a lot of damage (which prevents you from going super low in the first place). But this part requires experience as a tank and with the mobs/bosses you're dealing with, of course.
The main core problem with living dead is that it expects a lot more of the healer, and even with a description, the healer might be too focused on your low hp to see what you said! 😅 It is quite problematic and you can only do so much in the moment.
i feel like as a DRK main too many Healers see Living Dead get popped and when the Drk is at low Hp triggering Undead Rebirth and imediately hit the Oh shit Heal button you dont need to do that it makes the DRK lose thier Invuln early and with Endwalkers Release they made Undead Rebirth give 1500 cure potancy for Weapon Skills.
Undead rebirth is not the buff that heals you! Walking dead (the Grey hourglass) heals you. But once it becomes undead rebirth, you basically just have Holmgang, and since you're a dark knight, you don't have bloodwhetting, so if you drop low again after reaching undead rebirth, it's only the healer who will be dealing with that problem! 😅 However, I get what you meant, that healers have a tendency to react too soon to living dead, making it fail to function! 😊
To be honest, it is hilariously silly how much a Scholar doesn't even really have to think about healing outside of dungeon bosses in dungeons like level 50 and below, I first tried Scholar with a Castrum run since it was already maxed thanks to Summoner leveling, and like, other than applying shields before pulls, I felt more like a DPS The scarier thing was the party saying they were shocked that was my first time playing healer due to how good I did my job
One small tip to also go by; NEVER trust your healer in any capacity when you play a tank, always have your own heals ready and or potions for emergency heal. (this also applies to friends who need sleep lol) as a long time player i can say that with certain.... just because your HP is nearly down with a whm fopr examble never expect em to actually pop a benediction lol especially if you play with randoms, try a regular pull to pull to see how well the healer does. and also how fast the enemies die.
A little DRK advice, don't pop TBN immediately when you've pulled all packs to wall if the healer is WHM. The stuns might not allow the TBN to proc from the Holy spam. Pop your rampart/shadow wall first when you get low use Abyssal Drain early. After the second holy's stun, your TBN will start proccing again. It's a good habit to use Drain early/first anyway due to the low cooldown. Also, if you're feeling squishy or out of mitigation, remember that arm's length paired with reprisal or oblation is really strong against trash. Since practically 99% of their DMG is auto attacks unless you don't dodge aoes or very occasionally interrupt or stun some attacks.
Only thoughts about healers as a warrior: White mage: Mald that Holy is a DPS loss for your Vengeance, Mald extra if the healer doesn't chain their Holy's back to back and you need to wait longer to press your button, potentially losing uptime as targets die before vengeance times out. Wish they were playing literally anything else. All other healers: Bloodwhetting is the only healer I need. B) Idgaf what the green DPS does with their time in the party.
i never want a white mage in my duty finder roulette's, atleast for dungeons. I don't need you and your stun actively harms me than anything else, granted i don't use vengeance till I need it for mitigation purposes, but wasting a bloodwhetting means that when the stun is finally over, i'm going to melt because mr white mage is basically wasting my resources. (granted, I just kite the enemy around so they have to move to me and buy me extra time for Bloodwhetting to return)
@@DarkDyllon Yeah, I think for me, especially for 90 content I've just found vengeance to be a bit redundant and I rarely need it, so I just slam it out aggressively about the time I use bloodwhetting if there's no white mage. Not the safest play, but I know I have the tools if things suddenly get spicy for w/e reason, and playing a healer a lot as well, I know in high level content, I'm just throwing CD's out to buffer or provide DR rather then because I actually need them. As a sage I can get through a whole dungeon without any CDs if I really need too, but its fun to use buttons, so. : ^) I do kind of hope dungeons are a bit tougher in Dawn trail, I know its supposed to be easy content, but it feels given the array of tools we have, the 80-90 bracket especially on a warrior is a bit silly, but also having 660 gear likely makes it even easier then it should be.
@@Zoltri yeah I get what you're saying, might throw vengeance in there aswell because why not. the difference in howmuch damage mobs do at the lvl 89 dungeon vs the lvl 90 dungeons is actually quite high, in the dead ends (i think, the lvl 89 dungeon) they actually hit enough that an healer can be seen as beneficial, even for a WAR using proper CDs, but everything after that is such a breeze, especially with max ilvl gear, even before that honestly, I honestly think the biggest issue is just simply how poorly they handle the ilvl sync, since even if you get synced down to max ilvl for that duty, you're far overgeared, generally at max ilvl for that raid tier and it feels completely off. either that or they need to adjust howmany packs there are, I honestly hope they kinda revert back to Stormblood dungeon design, where you can actually pull 3-5 packs and actually have to show some skill in order to survive, it's not the most difficult like savage or ultimate, but it's far harder than anything SHB or EW has thrown at us in terms of dungeon content. I remember the 1st time I went into the lvl 70 monk dungeon (1 of the 2 optional dungeons at the end of SB) as WHM and I was sweating to keep the tank alive (granted, tanks were way less powerful back then) It was honestly 1 of the best times I had playing the game, I wouldn't mind feeling like that again since the only times I feel anywhere remotely challenged is with Savage or Ultimate content, Extreme is a bit too easy for me at this point, but that's just my personal take, I know plenty of players who struggle with even Zeromus EX. I main tank (mostly WAR since why not) and most content is just kinda easy, with dungeons being completely braindead, it's also ridicilous that on WAR, an healer is completely optional and it's more beneficial to have a 3rd DPS rather than an healer.
@@DarkDyllonBut how can you see a WHM and open with bloodletting? Just delay it by 7 seconds. You know the Holy is comming. It's not that hard. Same with DRK. I have heard the complaint so often. Just....delay the skill. Or would you rather have the healer just do single target and loose out on a whole lot more dps?
@@yornam5391the weird thing with blood lilly in trash is it actually is a 5p damage gain per enemy on the falloff hits to just sit there and hit solace three times and then send the blood lilly. So you theoretically *can* sit there farming a blood lilly while your DKN LDs or your WAR uses their 30%, but the issue is that 1. you have no solace on the very first pull of the dungeon after that, and 2. farming blood Lilly's *out* of combat adds up to literal thousands of free potency over the course of a dungeon, so it's rare that you're going into a pull with a misery + full solace charges, unless you had a very very weird boss kill time where you decide to hold your blood lilly for trash if you say get the misery when the boss is at like 1% hp AND still have solace charges to boot when you kill. So yeah... just play around the holy lmao
Glad that it was mentioned that, while Scholar doesn't need to give up its pet healing to use its GCD heals, Sage loses Kardia any time it needs to GCD heal
Healer main here, and dear lord I loved this breakdown. It's fairly concise for a semi-deep dive, goes over the main difference between the main class roles, and just generally would be a tool I would share for all my friends who play infrequently and wouldn't remember all the details.
Tbh when i have a WHM Healer or two WHM Healer in casual content, i expect to be always on the blink of death because no one will interrupt their Glare "Rotation"
They don't really have to, they've got buttons that dont require them to stop glaring. The real reason is probably as the video explains; efficiency. Benediction gets more value if you're low health, etc.
As a WHM, I do that because I don't know all the tank mits by heart (and especially not their cooldown time). Keeping the tank at about 40% is actually pretty safe if people are geared, gives the tank the chance to make use of anything that heals them, makes sure I'm not wasting any Regen effects, and if my Lily/Tetra crits, it'll heal about that much. The fact that it scares some less experienced tanks into using their mit at all is a bonus.
@@JayAshkevron Sure i know but i also have some _very_ bad experience with WHM.. like let you die in lvl 50 alliance raids where all Tanks still need healing to stay alive when they are MT (yeah even Warrior) or WHM that let me die (tbh the dps was also very low) even if i rotate all my mitigation etc. Tbh its more a trust issue.. some of the best healer i meet was WHM but also... "Please for the love of god play some DPS.. a Whitemage is a _Healer_ not a one button dps!"
@@kohlicoide2258 I believe that's caused by WHM being accessible since the other healers require 30 levels of ARC, Heavensward, or a level 70 job. They're disproportionately newbish. Kinda like how DRG got a reputation for being floor tanks because new players think it looks cool.
As a WHM main I also use the wings spell at the start of the first and 3rd full pulls as it gives mitigation to everyone when nearby, the game seems to be built around 2 big pulls before boss then another 2 big pulls before another boss, using those big high level spells with long cooldown fits perfectly and usually finishes its cooldown before the boss room.
This is very true, and I usually try to focus on this particular observation when giving cooldown advice (especially for tanks and healers!) so that is a good practice!
As a note and former Scholar main that moved to BLM, barrier healers will generally have shit planned out for about a minute in advance while keeping tools in their back pocket as an answer for shit going wrong. Good barrier healers expect their party to fuck up and plan accordingly
@@CaetsuChaijiCh kind of. Much like a healer, a black mage will treat their hit points as a resource to the point where I will say to healers that I know that the only mechanic that matters is the one that cuts my damage output. Meaning, if the mechanic doesn't one shot me or give me a damage down debuff, I will ignore it and rely on incidental healing to make up for the damage I take. Similarly, as a Scholar, I don't tend to concern myself with party wide damage that can easily be handled by my fairy simply due to the fact that worrying about it will cut into resources that can be used to keep everyone calm.
An addition to WHM is that they don't have that many damage-neutral healing tools at the start of a dungeon. So they like it when tanks don't need constant attention right at the start. Which leads me to a question. Spend lilies between pulls for the damage and be forced to use GCD healing if the tank needs more healing or keep lilies and actually heal with those? Kind of depends on the group, I guess, but what do you do?
You only toss lilies you know you won't need 😊 If you miscalculate and end up short as a result, you'll probably have to get creative. However in a group reliable enough that you think about tossing lilies in the first place, you probably will have tetra, an extra divine benison, and at least one lily generated during that particular pull itself to work with, which is often enough - at least in my experience! The key is that the white mage will have to make this calculation in advance, similar to how scholars often prefer to spend their energy drains while chain stratagem is up (which is often long before they get another batch of aetherflow!) It's about planning! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh I tested it extensively. By extensively, I mean once with a group in PF that I felt I could trust to do mechanics. It kind of works, but it still feels weird for someone who spent lilies shortly before being capped out or as needed. I'll get used to to just spamming them between pulls, I suppose. Bonus for the group above: It was a Warrior that used their cooldowns and Bloodwhetting.
As a WHM main I have a simple bene macro to signal when I use it, since I use it for extra uptime and not just when the tank gets low I remember when I was leveling AST, tanks would always yell at me for not healing enough despite the fact that Essential Dignity has 900 potency if you wait for their HP to drop below 30%. This was especially annoying with PLDs who use clemency at 50% HP Though now that tanks have so many ways to heal themselves I feel like there is much less friction with HP levels
@@fluffyfang4213 heals tgat only truly should be used when a person is super low that not something that should happen in a normal dung unless the tank is new
as my old mate told me: everything over 1% hp is good enough. he was playing main tank but was a main healer in the addon before. what should i say.... it works :D also some tanks are such drama queens. "50% hp? i use clemency, just in case" - okey. seems like you want to tank AND heal yourself. fine by me. i have at least 2 DD's which are thinking that AOE's are swimmingpools. glad you helped me a little here and there :D
._. I just want new fairy models.... Like the ones from ShadowBringers. In all seriousness, I know wtf I am doing, and the "akshually" guys who try and backseat heal give me headaches. Unless I want you to die or crap hits the fan, I will keep you alive, even on pulls you previously couldn't break the mechanic on. I was asked to fill in for a healer in one of my groups, and for whatever reason, half the group kept getting KOed at one specific part. I managed to keep the other half alive, then popped LB3 and we finished. I became a regular after that. Nice to not be a benchwarmer. And then there are Bards who know how to use their healing and shield abilities at the right moments... Troubadour, my love 🥰
Sage really does get silly and I love it for it. Let me shield myself and run into that AoE real quick. Let's keep spamming the shield on the tank so I can get more toxicon... I know I can just use my regular AoE but call me the toxi avenger. Oh I'm low on MP? Time to waste some Addergall. All those mobs are in a row... I got a big fuck you laser for that. Oh everyone is about to die? I guess I should have saved it. I swear, SGE is just so rewarding to DPS with even if at low levels you just turn into an F1 monkey unless the DPS are idiots.
I play sage main and pally tank as 2nd main, what i see alot is that many tanks dont use any mitigation skills on Wall to wall pulls and complain that they drop fast...🤣 On the other hand, when i tank, i see many healers trying to beat "the dps meter" at the cost of healing... If you guys dont like sage, you should play with me, you'll see that Sage are nice
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