FFXIV Lore- Understanding Dalmasca 

"But this is our people! Our heritage!" said Garlemald. "lol," said Dalmasca. "lmao."

I can't really feel sorry for them. They didn't just conquered the nations, they destroyed entire kingdoms, torn families apart, destroyed their heritage.

​@@fredy2041 honestly, yeah. That's the main reason I can understand garleans not wanting anyone to take control of it. To them, the tower was responsible for their lives turning into a living hell as everyone around them was tempered, enslaved, and horribly mutated. All while in the middle of a civil war, the tower would basically be a reminder of their worst nightmares. So letting other countries control it would be even more terrifying. Especially if they understand how justified other countries are in hating them. So they would be giving the tower that they see as responsible for the downfall of their way of life away to people who hate them and might want to use it to make them suffer.

My Dalmascan WOL tryin not to think about punching that guy out lmaoooo

My ala mhigan WoL took great pleasure in taking it back

I'd love to see more of it too! But after what happened with the Bozjan Resistance story I'm not gonna hold my breath. =/

me too, I fucking love final fantasy 12

I need a Judge tank job.

I'd LOVE to see dalmasca somewhere

It feels like some sort of Ivalice expansion is coming, fingers crossed! The hints are stacking up.

BASCH LIIIIVES!

That moment when Google thinks that ff12 character name is a different language lol but yet doesn't translate it into anything if you click to do so. Was curious to know what it would say.

Don’t listen to Ondore’s lies!

It's a really cool place. It's a shame to not take advantage of it.

Yes! We must uncloud it!

Happy to be of service!

True, there are even BIG things about the starter nations players don't know about because the MSQ is so laser focused on the Scions most the time. I'm always happy to illuminate the things that are glossed over. haha

Oh yeah they changed a lot of the lore. Basch is actually Noah's Dad in FFXIV as well. xD

Yuuuuuuup. And Basch is Noah's daddy!

@@SynodicScribe That's a heck of a switch - wonder why they decided to change the character relationship dynamics so much

@@M0ssP1glet Prolly to make abundantly clear that this Dalmasca is definitely not FF12's Dalmasca.

​@@SynodicScribe A fact that killed a large bit of my joy for the raids/ story 😢 That and Frans interest in Auracite at one point.

Don't forget about the VIIth Legion because of the Weapons Project. They were also pretty awful.

@@StartouchArts Yeah I point to both why my main character doesn't like the three eyes.

There's a continuation of the ivalice raids through bozja?? I've barely done bozja so I never even knew.

Basch is Gabranth's dad in the FFXIV universe. So I'd be curious to see how that pans out.

Yeah all we got to wrap up the Bozja lore was those rushed field notes. I mean, we at least know what happened to the Legion, Ashelia, Noah, etc. But like you, I really wish we got to see it all pan out in game instead of field notes....

My theory is they will come up with that topic eventually, and left it open on purpose. Because even if they were in a rush etc, the whole ending still felt way too unfinished. I surely hope it isnt.

It got razed by a Garlean legion to the point that said legion was cut off from Garlemald. _It was so horrific Emperor Solus disbanded that legion._

I mean, I would never say never. But I personally find it unlikely. Although I'd be happy if we got to see a revived Dalmasca at some point. haha

Yes cause of the recent throwbacks to ultima the high seraph

Prolly not since the nature of FF12/Tactics lore being in FF14 was under the supervision of the original creator. They'd likely have to bring him back to expand on that part of the world anymore than they have. But as always, I'd love to see more regardless. haha

I think they probably will. I don't think next expansion; Emet dropping Mericidia feels like it might be too tantalizing to resist. I guess it is possible since maybe that won't be next expansion but the one after that. We'll see when they make the announcement.

@@aerieleah533 Doesn’t have to be MSQ, but could be adjacent in other content.

The whole continent of Former Garlemald/Ilsabard has huge potential for an expansion revolving around FF12/Tactics/Vagrant Story. Or atleast more content involving these games, like Bozja etc.

There was a scrapped story? I quit FFXIV around when stormblood came out and didn't pick it back up till endwalker was announced, so I missed all the discussions about developments around that time.

Yeah. The Relic Weapon quest in Shadowbringers that dealt with Bozja, The Dalmascan Resistance and the 4th Emperial Legion. But it was only ever half finished as production was cut by Covid, making the final story rushed out the door without much fanfare.

I really hope they might bring that back in some way eventually. At least give us a better look into everything that's happened in the meantime, because so far as I know they only just have the end of the storyline on their website. The game itself just has a cliffhanger that just won't ever develop

It's just a lovely homage. Not only are there many missing places from the FF12/Tactics games but many of the characters aren't the same as they were either.

@@SynodicScribe ya like ashe being that's dudes sister instead of his wife lol. Interesting how ivalice is an homage but the nier raids are actually canon

@@dustinhatfield8373 I use the term "canon" loosely with Nier. That entire franchise is one big fever dream. lmao

@@SynodicScribe ha ha you're not wrong. Speaking of other games being canon, i was always under the impression ff11 was a shard of 14 now. But i recently saw a mr happy video where he said that was debunked. Is that so? Because i thought that whole event with Iroha we get sometimes was specifically proving that it was. I look forward to possibly exploring more shards in the future

She didn't exactly have the strength to say no or interfere at that point in the story. Also, Midgardsormr was ultimately trying to act in her service. Essentially saying. "You blessed this one? Well, instead of letting you waste your power I would have them prove their worth." Midgardsormr and Hydaelyn maintained a unique relationship ever since he arrived. The nature of their original agreement isn't entirely known.

@@SynodicScribe Thank you for taking the time to answer. I know the question came totally out of the blue but the question has bothered me for awhile and I’ve found no satisfactory answer during my hunt for an answer. I figured if there was anyone who might be able to answer it would be you. I think I heard somewhere that when he came to Hydelyn he was permitted to stay and have his kids if he guarded Silvertear Lake. Either way I still think it was a bit of a dick move. It royally screwed over Moenbryda. Maybe if he’s protecting the WoL in her stead he should have stepped in against the Ascians since he stripped the WoL of their only real defence against them. And again in the Sea of Clouds when the key to Azys La was stolen literally from the WoL’s hand. I’m not saying he should have stepped in every time the WoL was threatened, but after removing the ability to be protected against the Ascians I can’t help but feel like he could have been a little more proactive. Oh, I should add that I’m not in possession of all the lore and stories yet. I’m only, I think, near the end of Stormblood. I recently got access to the Lochs area next to Ala Mhigo. On a tangent note, I’m fascinated by all the ruined architecture and monuments in the Peaks and will have to research the area. That boat is really something.

Right? They changed around quite a lot of relationships for the "adaptation" of FF12. haha

You're not wrong. The "Garlean Pride" they speak of has put many lives to the sword. But to suddenly change their ways would mean accepting that their conquest of the world was entire unjustified. That realization is something their pride won't let happen. At least, not without tremendous reason.

@@SynodicScribe They are also very antagonistic to everything but themselves, it's not so much pride but at their core they are very scared of the outside world and other races due to their history of being forced out of their home country and no way of defense being born without magic and indoctrination makes this worse, then they get this sense of belonging via pride (the bond they share eachother), but it is build on fear. All in all it will probably take tremendous efforts and time to rebuild Garlemald into a stable form again. Every other nation we would be done with in the patch cycle story, but Garlemald is still far from finished. Curious what they plan to do with it.

It's a completely different timeline/Dalmasca.