How to summarize both of them the best ways for me Arjuna: Still is to this day one of the highest Damaging Servants in the Game but Damage is all he can do, he can't fit into many teams other than Buster/Crit Morgan: Lose on Damage part againts anyone aside from Man Attribute which are around 30% of the game, but makes up with her being the CQs Dominator with how she can fits with anyone that has an exploitable Overcharge. And can even be put on Arts Focus team like Tamamo, Castoria or Proto Merlin
To me, the shorter version of it all: Bank on Oberon or anyone you wish. Then you can just wait for whichever of Morgan's four and soon to be five whole ass banners. You can literally plan around any of them if you want her.
Question timestamps 0:23: I have Arjuna Alter, why Morgan? 4:15 : I don't have KoL/Oberon, do I still roll? 6:21 : How many NP copy should I roll? 7:56 : Should I save for LB6 banner?
Also, Morgan is gonna get a lot of rerun banners. As long as you save 900sq for 1 of those times, you will hit pity, who is gonna be a thing after Tunguska.
Remember: LB 6.5 prime farming nodes are filled with man attribute enemies. So if you're grinding hard for jars or daggers, Morgan can ice them pretty easily
Roll for Oberon or Morgan. The answer is, both. Get Oberon. Get Morgan at a later time because she has so many rate ups in the future. This answer is only for the NA clairvoyance.
Wait wait, I disagree about Arjuna Alter need specifically Oberon to 3T. He still works well with a charger with separate battery like Waver. Of course, his turn 3 damage without Oberon would lower, but this is Oberon we talking about. It would be like this: T1: AA with Max Kscope or append + 2 Koyanskaya buffs. T2: Koyanskaya 50% + AA 30% + Plugsuit Waver 20% T3: Koyanskaya 50% + AA 30% + Waver 30%.
As soon as I heard what he said about Arjuna Alter I immediately scrambled to the comments to see if anyone corrected Plushie before I could. He does not need Oberon at all! Sure, Oberon offers more damage, but a simple Reines, Waver, or hell, even Castoria, would suffice.
Honestly, if Obesus banner hasn't come up, I would probably go for Morgan right now. Morgan is great, but I already have so many servants that I can already fulfill the role she can fill up, meanwhile Obesus is part of the Arrow 7 member that I haven't had yet, whose role I still want to have on my team more than anything.
When it comes to pure damage I will always prefer Arjuna Alter But Morgan I think her Crit damage / support capabilities is her selling point In the end of the day they both clear every content in the game lol, I think it's just a preference tho Morgans skillset feels more comfortable to use in harder content, while Arjuna Alter is just braindead kill all button but needs his Debuff to land Also unlike most I already rolled for Van Gogh so Rip no Oberon for me Because she also clears most boss fights and also she's cute
To be completely fair, in JP the 90++ quests are beginning to be a bit tough for AA, because hitting niches seems to be the name of the game, and he doesn't really have one (and his debuff damage boost isn't a power mode). Morgan has the advantage of having a decently-wide niche, and be able to function as a secondary DPS - secondary support if needed. Mind you, AA remains ideal for everything below that.
@@Rosemaryalter2711 But with Black Grail (so no 6 CE drop), Miss Crane AND plugsuit (longer runs). Heck, you even need a 50% charge for Miss Crane here, making it a 4CE drop at best (well, except when the event has a 50% CE, of course). At this point, it's hardly efficient.
My answer for the thumbnail: If you already have strong AOE DPS servant built, unless you like Morgan, save for Oberon. Not only is he one of the Big 4 alongside Koyan, Skadi, Castoria, with the introduction of 90++ node being the optimal farming stage for events, Oberon will be a lot more useful due to his massive damage steriod and 70% NP charge which helps a lot with min clearing enemies with 700k+ HP and the non awkward non 3/3/x stages.
Plan for 2023 so far are basically : - get Space Ishtar an extra NP level - grab at least one copy of Morgan (ideally NP2, but if it seems like she doesn't want to show up right away, I'd keep some leftovers) - go all-out for Oberon - use what's left to grab as many copies of Morgan as I can (since she conveniently have a second banner at that time) There's still some tough choices to make (mainly whether to completely skip Miss Crane and Koyanskaya), but realistically, I can't get everything with GSSR-only spendings.
Instead of going for np2 Morgan, why not get np1 Morgan on her first banner, roll for Koyanchihuahua using the saved quartz, then go for Morgan np2+ on Morgan’s second/third banner? It’d probably help to get Koyanlight
NA players really have it easy when it comes to Morgan, knowing (At the time of this comment) that she has 4 banners is really helpful in budgeting quartz for those that want her but also might want Koyan/Oberon etc.
From a gameplay perspective, there is absolutely no reason to bust your balls over Morgan if you're missing Oberon. While she's great, there are a lot of servants that can do her job (even if their setups are less flexible), but no servant can match what Oberon does. Also, lwe're looming on the release of the LB7 Grand Zerk, and the fact that they've rerun every cracked berserker from the aging Susashi to the notoriously "never-on-rateup" AA, I think they're going to release an AE Berserker that will powercreep everything we've seen so far, which means Morgan's value could potentially go down even further. From a logistic standpoint, Morgan has been rerun 4 times and is ranking high on popularity polls which means that she'd probably keep getting rateups, where despite having similar popularity Oberon has been on rateup only once. It's a safer gamble to wait for the next Morgan rateup than the next Oberon one.
They didn't give a banner to Musashi. In fact, both her normal self and summer versions are the SSR Servants that haven't had a rateup for the longest time
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Well, I'm not a prophet lol. Most of my comment still stands in terms of the value rolling Morgan bring. And even though it ain't a berserker, we still got a Buster AoE that does everything better (other than maybe multicore farming) than Morgan in Kuku
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Is it really? My initial comment was speculating that they would release a unit that would potentially be better than Morgan; they released two. Kuku is in the same card-type as Morgan, uses the same supports and has the same loop spec to boot while doing more damage be it by crits or NPs with superior utility on top of it all. I don't think that's irrelevant.
I think that you should go for Oberon cause Morgan literally has 4 rate ups in a year, while Oberon only has two and one of them is a gssr so you might not even get him, while the gssr of Morgan has Arjuna alter and musashi summer with it, so you can't even in it.
@Jay Davai berserkers append 3 is very not worth it, extremely situational and doesnt add in anything dps wise to the servant. 2 appends and 120 at np5 is doable.
The first time I saw Oberon I thought huh ok… then I saw his third assention and heard his VA, and well it was love. Now I’m saving the second Muramasas banner ends. Because I need a looping Saber and Muramasa is cool. Fortunately as an NA player I can just wait for Morgan (and Melusine) other banners.
Morgan is not essential a all, she's pretty weak outside of her niche, can't use BG, need third support with 50% battery, etc. You might as well roll for Oberon and then use Melusine or Cú Caster for damage, both hit like trucks and can actually use 0% CEs, not to mention that they aren't niche like Morgan, except of course for that one time that their class will have disadvantage
I’ll probably be skipping on Oberon because of just how stacked the middle of 2023 is when regarding Servants. Yes, I know that Morgan has several re-runs and it’s better to pull for her then, but I don’t care. I want my Fairy Queen dammit. Definitely gonna go for Koyanskaya though. I need more Buster support.
Yup, charge supports>ALL Have Waver, Reines, Skadi, Merlin, Castoria, the evil Fox is a must. Even more than Oberon, which does gives more charge, but usually fit 90++ nodes and special 3t cqs. Speacially if you have Artoria Saber. Sweet easy refund.
Question!!!!!! Soooooo I'm saying as many SQ for the LB6 and Summer6 banners. I currently don't have castoria/S.Musashi or any supports along with DPS sooo I'm confused 😕😕😕😕. Should I roll for Castoria, Oberon and S.Kama and wait for Morgan and Koyanskaya to get their rerun? OR Roll for Koyanskaya, Morgan and Oberon and wait for Castoria and S.Kama to get their rerun? OR Roll for Castoria, Konyan and Oberon and wait for S.Kama and Morgan to get their rerun? Currently have around 200+ SQ and 50+ tickets
@@_dxksh I'd recommend going all out for castoria if you don't have her also do you have space Ishtar if so then definitely get castoria since she one of the best looper for her if you don't have space Ishtar I'd summon for summer kama after castoria and try to prioritize Oberon as well with koyanskaya it really depends on what units you mostly use she practically buster castoria so if you have a lot of buster then roll but it depends on who you like but the most valuable units are Oberon castoria and probably koyanskaya but if you don't have a dps try get either s kama or Morgan but wait for Morgan rerun since she has a lot of banners coming up
@@Xero488 kay~, after hearing from many people, I've decided that first Castoria, then Oberon and then I'll decide whether to roll for S.Kama/Morgan next or Koyanskaya
np1 Morgan would be a dead weight to my account and I don't want to go for np2+. Oberon is way more effective in my opinion. if you like her - roll, if you are neutral just go for Oberon
i agree, i would say at least np2 for morgan, i got her from the gssr at np1, and man... even with double koyanskaya her damage sucks... i will probably try to roll for a second copy in the future if i get oberon, last year i had no quartz left for the oberon banner because koyanskaya first banner drained all of my quartz at the time, and i got her with the 10 login tickets, literally my last hope for her
@@thefool8224 right, np5 an ssr just if you really like it and have the possibility and the luck, my luck with the np level is really bad, on jp my only non np1 ssr is fish kiara np2, and on na i got np2 dantes when rolling for fujino and np4 castoria(i was planning np3 just for the level 120 and because i like her so much, but when se was np2 i got 2 copies in the same multi, now i'm planning for np5 in the future) so yeah, i would prefer to np2/3 an ssr
@@lugiaakashining9833 .on the JP anni i rolled for archetype with over 700 SQ (from the anni goodies), uber failed. then on NA i got np4 summer kiara with around 33 rolls or 90 SQ while rolling for honey lake, which i only got one copy. i even got her twice on the same roll (thanks emiya for his 30 bond SQ). sadly the first example is the predominant one, kiara was a one time miracle that will likely never happen again.
@@thefool8224 yeah, i got around 4 double ssr multi since i play, the first was a story banner when i got arjuna archer and saber artoria on na, but i deleted that account, the second on the gssr on na with my new account with romulus and bunny artoria(the one with np4 lvl 120 castoria) the double castoria, and the 7th anniversary on jp when i got morgan and summer sashi plus np3 kriemhildr, but after i hit pity on proto merlin... yeah...
I'm rolling for Morgan because she never came home during the times she was present in any non-paid SQ banner. I already got every other LB6 serv so it would make me happy if she could complete the list
I don't totaly agree. Oberon is more or lese crucial for most 90++ Nodes. And especially on her Release on NA she comes right next to Oberon and Vitch, which are way more important. So if you have an alternative she isn't worth the roll in my opinion. But great Video. I Like your topic Videos :)
While many comps in lv90++ use Oberon, none of them ever need you to have your own Oberon so borrowing from Support will work just as well I have my own Oberon, and I never used him in all the previous 90++ nodes while I keep using Morgan since she can be both main and secondary attacker depending on what you need
@@TheAnaz41745 having your oen Oberon would let you borrow a whale dps though? Which is often times crucial because you might not have _that one ideal dps_ for clearing a node at a high enough investment
Thanks for the vid. I actually was planning to np2 Morgan but decide to stop now since I actually forgotten bout Oberon. If he doesn’t pop up I’ll go with Morgan tho.
with the higher hp in 90++ mission, type killer(特攻) seems to be an important thing for the servant, to see whether he/she the np contains any killer(特攻) or not and can it do overcharge. Morgan is good because she can charge 30 np for herself provide 20np to other/ herself to, in addition, she got type killer in her np, which makes her quite good when encountering enemies with human type. Arjuna alter is still a good servant rn, but there's a risk of cant deal a really massive dmg in 90++ mission, cause he type killer only got 100% at most which maybe be complicated and not much stable while farming 90++ missions. Type killer is important because it can be o.c. to 200% which is more easier to do a higher dmg.
morgan and arjuna are both the best Buster AOE servant rn, its pretty true, but rn if players are looking for farming 90++ in the fastest way, a servant which can to AOE with high dmg and also able to provide np to teammates is very important. Unless the player doesnt want to farm 90++ than ill say arjuna alter is better than morgan sometimes. Moreover, morgan needs to do a lot of preparation in order to be good, while arjuna doesnt need to.
@@icimanbocchi looks at melusine, who does more damage (in 90+ nodes) at neutral than Morgan does at 1.5x and with the 150% damage buff. and even in 90++ nodes does more damage at neutral than Morgan at 1.5x and has a 100% battery so she doesn't take battery from your main DPS (making up for the lack of a targeted battery, by not using one of your supports targeted batteries).
@@adrastos8401 mel is pretty good choice for 90+ but morgan is more flexible in90++ not bexause her np dmg, is because she can charge for other teammate
@@icimanbocchi of the 3 90++ nodes Melusine is better in the only one that doesn't give her full class disadvantage. And even in one of the two where she does have class disadvantage, her and Morgan are basically interchangeable (and in both of them, the Welfare does as good or better than either of them)
Morgan is my all around 3T farming (combine with 2x koyanL + 50% np charger) and harder content. So yeah, she is a good. I have np 1 and grailed to 100. Fyi, i have no oberon. Thinking of rolling for np2...
I am going hard on Morgan's banner. I don't even care about meta or how good she is o isn't. I just want the royal family of Camelot to be reunited and help me god I will see this dream come true. Also np2 would be kinda nice.
I'm a Morgan simp, so I'll definitely try to get all the copies I can to max her NP and be a good husband for her. Also, as soon as I get her, I'll grail her to Lv.100 and max her skills to 10/10/10 I really fell in love with Morgan and want to give her all my love.
I'm saving for Oberon for no other reason than there is a 95% chance he'll be the only male Pretender for the next 10 years. Him being busted is simply a bonus for me.
I'd have to play around with both of them to really know for sure, but I think Morgan surpasses Arjuna just on the merit of her team support. I do believe that if you have one, you don't NEED the other, but Morgan is going to work better in a messier comp, she's going to do better against multiple break bars, etc. Arjuna is a very simple character to use, a bit like an AoE Orion, which is his main advantage, and I think he can work well in farming nodes, but not as a looper. All that being said, with the right supports, you can use either in most scenarios, I would imagine. I guess in a brawl, Arjuna has a bit more beef because of his 3rd skill? But really only barely. Like you said, we got Arjuna years earlier, so he's probably already maxed out for the masters who already have him.
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Bruh Morgan’s pretty much in the standard pool with how many rate ups she received. Oberon gets a debut banner and gets shipped off to gssr Brazil. Even as a Morgan simp, don’t pass up on him.
Honestly I don't really care about Oberon or what he can provide for my team. I'm still skipping him because there are other Servants that I want, mainly Morgan. Yeah, I know she several reruns and it would be better to just wait for those, but I don't care. Morgan is the Servant I'm most looking forward to. I'll be saving up as much sq as I can so that I can get her.
good video, but also partly wrong at the end. It is ALWAYS better from an efficiency standpoint to prioritize supports and just use friend dps units. If youre comparing morigan to oberon and koyan, it is always better to pull the latter 2 first
I’m a NA player and I want to have Morgan as my main dps and I want at least np2 but since 2023 banners are stacked since It has Koyan Light and Oberon ! I want to get np2 Morgan and one copy of Koyan Light , also would love to get Douman later this month ! Morgan is just best waifu for me .
I already have Oberon on jp and plan to go for Morgan on NA since that's where I'm collecting most Arthurian and Saberface servants and plan to grail and maybe even 2k/2k her there.
i dont realize until today that Melusine NP type changed into Buster lol, i thought it only change the ST into AoE type... gonna Save for both Morgan and Melusine tho
I roll on nearly every banner the game has so my point might not be too valid. But i say go hard for Oberon (especially if he's ya boi like he is mine) and roll moderately for Morgan. She has a ton of banners coming so there's no need to panic about losing out on getting her.
I can’t afford to roll for morgan. At least not at first. I need koyan first. Maybe oberon as well but idk for sure, i def need koyan more so I can buster loop.
I don't understand why everyone thinks AA needs Oberon to 3T, where does this myth even come from? It's literally basic math. Yes, he needs to use plug-suit, but he can 3T with any servant that grants him 40% NP (20% on wave 2 & 3 each). I don't know where this hive minded idea of him needing Oberon to 3T even started, it just shows how bad people are at doing basic addition, or how many sheep there's in the community that just like to repeat what others say when they don't know best. I haven't even finished watching the video, I had to press pause and write this because I'm so dumbfounded by how this is the common idea that people have in this matter.
I have to prepare myself for it on the NA, maybe I finally get the Buster servers I wanted at the beginning, but the servants who accepted me were the arts, I like the berserker precisely because they have advantages against many enemies, I hope to get some copies of Morgan because she will have to get over my Musashi np2.
I ve been playing for a while so i really stopped caring about DPS servants since i have a really strong base of grailed DPS, so for me Oberon is the best bet
I don't know if I pull for ibuki on Na as I've saved up for her and I want Morgan when she comes out in June. Should I save more and not pull ibuki or try pulling and see wt I can save till June ?
since both...or four of them (vitch n melusine) are almost here in NA , maybe an updated guide based on current jp ? or is it still the same ? since morgan got more reruns im planning to do some tickets n then some on melusine n go all out on vitch n oberon , well thats my plan for now...
Well i will go for Morgan and koyanskaya next year, because i want Morgan and i'm an tamamo simp and buster player. But i think i can wait more for Morgan and try getting oberon and koyanskaya first Because well i have castoria and Merlin but almost all My Best DPS are buster
The way my account is looking, it supports arts and quick more than buster, but I really do want to use buster servants with ease without the restraints of low np gain. A buster servant that's an np gauge support sounds amazing to me. I hope to get her, KoL and oberon
as someone with an np3 grailed arjuna and an np1grailed morgan i always say go for morgan so much more utility can even be in stall teams. juna doesnt bring that he only does crazy amount of dmg which is fine itself
Morgan won't live longer than 3 seconds because she can't actually solo boss by herself like Heracles,Cu alter,Taira,Rapustin Avalon team is meaningless if u already her but without both Castoria and Merlin.
@@Rosemaryalter2711 no one said she is a gud solo unit learn how to read lol. I dunno why you bring the '' this unit is useless if you dont have this sh*t or that sh*t'' just coz you dont have the character needed for the comp, it doesnt change the facts that they are the best stall team
Gonna go hard for Fae Gawain and if I happen to get Morgan then so be it. Already have Castoria, Himiko and Merlin setup. Might take 2 hours but nothing can escape the fist.
I have both Koyan and Oberon as well and my Morgan is NP1 at what np level will she become a universal buster looper? Np2 or Np3? She's level 100 and 2k fou if that matters Also lmao Plushie with the casual remark about someone stealing people's gameplay footage
Kinda need Oberon since my strongest working units are NP1KoyanL and NP2FaeKnightLance. I don’t have it MLB but am in posession of a Kaleidoscope and Oberon would give me that pure 3T Buster farming. By Stella-ing the first wave and using Waver in place of Oberon and my KoyanL I am at least able to 2T Loop with buster. But a clean team comp would be so much headache gone instantly and that much less thinking since you can just follow a programm.
I already have NP2 Godjuna and NP1 Raikou if I really wanna go Unga Bunga with buster memes. But at the same time, I don’t really use Berserkers all that much to begin with, so Morgan is an easy skip. Also I’m not really a fan of what I’ve seen of her character and personality. The only characters I want from LB6 are Barghest and maybe Melusine, imma hard skip on the queen and the sadistic vampire
I don't think not having Oberon is fine. Jp has continuously been pushing the use of Oberon to the point where having and not having him is so significant that not having him makes gameplay very much different, he's as important as castoria to anyone's account and they are the 2 greatest servants in the game atm
Yes, first off the 90++ nodes basically REQUIRES you to have BG and Oberon (unless the event has a damage ce). Not to mention having a 70% battery is goddamn huge and definitely cements him above Waver. Though a counter argument would be that 90++ nodes and 90+ nodes didn’t have THAT much a difference to begin with
You don't need to roll for him though, just use a support. He's only truly used for his 3rd skill for the finisher of high hp. Other support are important because they usually require having two on the same team, konya L, castoria etc
Disagree. He works just fine as a borrowed servant unless you don’t have ANY of the major supports. Needed him for the last 90++ node and I used him as a support no problem.
I have to disagree with this. While Oberon is critical for level 90++ quests, virtually no other team needs him unless you have a damage output problem and can't three-turn with Buster teams or Arts teams.
I already got morgan at np2 at NA rn. should I roll koyanskaya or oberon? I only have 30sq... though i have a lot of side quest and still currently in LB4
Sorry,lady Morgan You're beautiful and great mother But i can farm Godjuna in map 90++ and NP1 without Oberon and 1 Koyanskaya I'll skip and wait for Oberon and use u on my friend list account later
I love Morgan so I'm pretty set on getting her over oberon. Hoping I have enough left over to go for both, but gacha law dictates I prepare for the worst case-scenario.
I will correct some points: 1. Morgan is not always better than Godjuna in farming. Her damage is _significantly_ lower and she really does struggle to clear high hp 90 or 90+ nodes at low NP levels, even more so if she doesn't have access to her SE. Godjuna doesn't have this issue. 2. Godjuna can loop without Oberon, he can use double Koyanskaya and any 50% charger with split batteries if you have a scope and his append maxed 3. Avalon immortality team is unnecessary most of the time, the Amakusa CE is way more than enough in most fights
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