just know that old honda engines do nothing but drink more oil then an rx-8 without an oil pressure limiter at 10k rpm with full 4 liters of oil in the tank (in rotary engines there no accual oil pan, its more of a tank realy) and DOHC is obviosly way better than SOHC plus 4A-GE is much better than 2JZ, even tho those Supra engines can handle 1000 bhp an the weeb powered 4A-GE has very few horse power (only 130, still not bad for 1587cc). But it is torque what your looking at in DOHCs, Silvia S13 may only had 180 bhp but if when going 80mph put in 5th and accelerated it would start shreding the tires if not ESC, and in Fiat Coupe with 2.0 20v turbo (it was an inline 5) you could pull of at any gear at any speed.
I was so confused at first - until I realised you were talking about the _new_ 124. I was looking at the exhaust and trying to remember my brother's '72 124 Sports and couldn't quite put the two together in my head. :-P
Watched your video and immediately called to order the Record Monza. The dealer never heard of the part and struggled to order it for me. He says that it only fits the '17 and '18 models. I have a 2019, so I ordered it anyways. Hope it works out. Thanks for posting this
Sadly, the dealers don't have a lot of enthusiasm for these cars. I suggest calling Benson Fiat in South Carolina. They know these cars and will ship you the exhaust with no issues. That's what I did. By the way, I still love my Record Monza. I have grown more attached to it over time.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks again I was able to purchase the exhaust from my local dealer I found the part number in a Canadian catalog. This is really the way the Abarth should have always come stock. Do you know why the rest of the world seems to have the Record Monza stock but not here in the U.S.? Love my 124 even more now :)
I have seen standard 124s with the Record Monzas, so it will fit and improve the sound. I think the standard 124 normally has a resonator in the mid pipe and the Abarth does not. However I could be wrong and it's too cold outside right now for me to go and look.
I had three 124s back in the day. A '69, 1,448 cc Coupe' and two 2L Spiders. The Coupe was the faster and better handling car because it was so much lighter and stiffer. You could wind that sucker way to tight, but the 5 speed gearbox was well matched to the power curve. Then I bought a nice used Boss 429 Mustang and learned an entirely new definition of the word fast!!! Like 80 MPH faster than the 124s! And much quicker too!
2" seems awfully small for the inlet pipe of a single exhaust. What is the diameter for the inlet on the stock exhaust? What is the difference on the dyno? Most stock exhausts are efficient as is. Sound is important though. You should have included the stock sound for comparison.
The stock mid pipe which connects to the rear section is also 2", so going bigger wouldn't make much sense for a part that connects to the stock mid section. There is essentially zero difference on the dyno. Sorry I didn't include the stock sound.
" 2" seems awfully small " -- it's only a 1.4L turbo engine with less than 200hp after all! Many 200hp cars (e.g., Toyota 86) have only a 55mm (2.1") factory exhaust.
I think it's just right, which is why I am keeping it on the car. I would say it's a little quieter in normal driving than a stock 500 Abarth, but about equal in volume when you get on it.
Current pricing is here: shopeurocompulsion.net/products/record-monza-exhaust-system-fiat-124-spider-abarth?_pos=2&_sid=2c861e657&_ss=r , I think they are out of stock everywhere. I'll find out today when they will be back in.
Hi Bryan, thanks. I think it sounds a lot better on the real road. On the dyno there is a lot of noise from the dyno itself, tire noise, echoing and so on.
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles Well, I really was just kidding! My ‘68 bit the dust long ago. But I was really fond of my 850 Spider. Really enjoy your channel.
Well, there is a story there. I normally run 215s on Evo Corse Wheels (which I LOVE). I put them on when the car was brand new, so the stock tires and wheels you see on the car in the video only have about 20 miles on them, and some dyno pulls. If you watch the video closely, you will figure out why I had to put the stock wheels and tires back on the car.
That's true. Of course we could go with a side exit and save even more weight. Then again, I weigh north of 230, so in terms of actual weight, I am the problem. Your overall point is valid however, and if I was building a full race car, the Record Monza would NOT be my first choice. I do think it's a great choice for a street and occasional track car.
PS. For the money it cost to buy that Miata clone, you could buy a very nice used, '82-02, F body pony car, put a crate motor in it and gone well over 200 MPH. Corvette wheels and big tires let it pass the "fun" cars in any corner that is not too bumpy for the solid rear axle, at speeds that have no place on public roads. See pics of '97 Z-28s, then think 5-700+ HP in a car that does not weigh that much, if anything more than the new 124/Miata!
3400 pounds is 1600Kg, 500Kg or half a ton more than the Mazda/124. You have no clue of what you're talking about. Good luck cornering in a 60 year old american car...
It's not for everyone, there are a lot of good exhaust systems for this car. Remus, Ragazzon for example. I should point out, that at this point, the only 124 to run in the 13's as the 1/4 mile runs an EC cross pipe and Record Monza.
