Fiat 500 clutch fix ( master cylinder, slave cylinder, thrust bearing, KA, Panda, Ypsilon )

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I diagnose and fix a creaky and stiff Fiat 500 clutch. Total cost of repair, £31.34 !!! Tools required...... a 13mm & 10mm socket, a ratchet and a pair of wire snips. This fix will also be applicable to the Ford Ka, Lancia Ypsilon, Chrysler Ypsilon and Fiat Panda.

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@martinmees878 10 месяцев назад

Showing the full job from start to finish. Brilliant. Thanks for this

@jamieramone8216 Год назад

Blood on the knuckles. Mechanics is a passion. Well done mate!.. Now i need to do the same thing tomorrow on a friends fiat 500. I'm a bit heavy handed, so there will be more bleeding from me than the hydraulic system. Thanks again buddy, appreciate the video!

@MikeRitchieSD 6 месяцев назад

Excellent video. Thanks for sharing this

@currygobbler1 2 года назад

Great video and tips, had the exact same issue on a Ka mk2. Made changing it much easier👍

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

I'm pleased you found it useful. Please be sure to Like the video and if at all possible Subscribe too 👌🏼👍🏼

@icecreamsandwich6797 Год назад

@@fixitfallows this also helped me with Ford Ka Mk2. Thanks! Might be worth including Ford Ka Mk2 in the title

@Pedroago69 Год назад

Brilliantly instructive video👍

@TE0o. 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, this helped me a lot.

@zaneclone 2 года назад

For anyone doing this job on a Panda (2009 1108 in my case)- it can be tackled quite easy without removing the battery/tray- keeping your radio codes ! Take off 2 13mm bolts (easy enough access with std' ring spanner) move the slave forward so you can access the pipe retaining clip- slide out the pipe. Swap pipe seal off new pipe (if you have one with new slave) and re-fit . Bolt up the slave, snip off rod retaining ties (on new slave) and bleed as you would any other. Bleed screw (allen key) is also easily accessed in place. 10 mins- happy days ! :)

@martiangod 2 года назад

I just fit new clutch, thrust bearing and slave on fiat 500 and had the ecu and battery removed for 7 days, didn't need any radio code

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

I didn't lose my codes either..... but maybe it depends on which radio head is installed.

@brainnya 3 месяца назад

So well explained, thank you!

@NDBBDB Год назад

Fantastic video and instructions. Thank you

@darkwaterblue 2 года назад

Great video, I have a new to me ford Ka and the fluid is original, looks rank so was looking how to bleed it as the clutch is a bit spongy. Would have been tempted to purge all that dark fluid out mind! Cheers.

@BaltimoreSP 3 месяца назад

great video mate- when i did it it took ages to get the clip out and when trying to pull the pipe out of the slave, its stuck fast!! Looks like a few blasts of wd40 needed but if not, may have to install the new pipe then cut the connector and rejoin where it meets the master pipe!

@fixitfallows 3 месяца назад

Good luck 😎🤞🏻👍🏼

@johnsheppard7935 Год назад

nicely done thank you.

@mrr6510 Месяц назад

Hey there many many thanks for the very helpful video. MY connector was rusted and very hard to remove, when refitting i found it easier to leave it bolted in place first, so maybe thats a good way to remove it if its problematic. It feels way better now however occasionally i still get my gear jamming, less so though. Im wondering if i need to bleed it more.

@CaroleStyles 2 года назад

Nice little car!

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

All ready for when she gets her licence through www.styles-steering.co.uk/

@elsacoventry4544 7 месяцев назад

Hi, I have this problem of a squeaky and stiff clutch, but as it starts to get worse the bite point will go and my car will get stuck stationary. Only seems to happen after driving for 20-30 mins and will be fine once the car has cooled down. Could this still be down to the slave cylinder?

@yameen04 5 месяцев назад

thanks for video my car needs changing to

@onlyj9420 2 года назад

Excellent video. I think I have exactly the same problem on my daughter's fiat 500 (recently purchased). I took it to a garage and they said they would need to replace both the slave and master cylinder which would cost £330. So yesterday I looked under the bonnet to try and work out exactly where the noise was coming from and although the noise sounded near the arm and the rod going into the slave cylinder, the squeak seemed to be coming from the coiled pipe that is attached to the slave (the one you detached) and it vibrated at the same time. So I am wondering if I also need to replace the coiled pipe but you mentioned problems getting that off the master, and I wonder if that's why the garage wanted to replace both the slave and master. After watching your video, I am considering whether to have a go myself, despite being a girlie, as you made it look straight forward. Another question I have is, how do you know how much to bleed from the slave? Also, the clutch pedal has a high bite point, will that improve after doing this, or is that just what to expect from a fiat 500? Did the stickiness of the clutch improve after the slave replacement? Sorry, so many questions.

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

Hello. Based on my understanding of things it is unlikely that the coiled section of pipe, or any other section of pipe will be the reason for the noise or vibration. It will be a moving part in the system that creates the noise (due to undue friction, bought about by degradation) ...... that noise then reverberates through the pipes ( think of tin can string phones we would make as kids - noise in at one end, sound travels as vibration waves through the string ). To be fair to garages, time is money to you and them, so they probably err on the side of caution and suggest both slave and master replacement incase it turns out to be one or the other. Plus there is always the arguement that if one is knackered, the other may not be too far behind it. It really is not a tricky job. Watch the video a few times, even write a few bullet point notes of the stages you need to take. Go for it. As for bleeding. You do it for as long as bubbles continue to show in the expelled fluid. Once no more bubbles, then no more bleeding. As for the high bite point, that is the sign of an ok clutch. It's when you have to the pedal to the floor is when you have to worry. Good luck.

@henryhayward597 Год назад

Cracking Video. Thanks. 😇

@mgml 2 года назад

Top man, thanks

@bazabiker4870 Год назад

Excellent video content / detailed pictures and narrative. Thankyou for taking the time to share your experience. I'd diagnose my squeaky clutch to the slave / or clutch operating arm or mechanism. I'll grab myself a slave cylinder and get this replaced. Incidentally, did you remove the piston from the slave cylinder body (of the defective unit), to see if it was the piston, the bore or seals that was the cause of failure (noise) within the slave cylinder?

@fixitfallows Год назад

Cheers for the kind comments, much appreciated. As for dismantling the old unit, much out of character I didn't, I usually relish the opportunity to have a nose around inside of things..... I must have had other priorities imposed upon me by she who must be obeyed 🤣

@dmitriplayer 3 месяца назад

Seems like surgery.) Thanks for video i looked for this job.

@andrew.rimmer 2 года назад

Hi there, I have just bought a new slave cylinder for my 500 and planning to do the change myself. I have two questions I wondered if you could help me with? 1. After fitting the new slave, what do I need to do with the bleed kit? Could you talk me through that process and what I need to be able to do that as unsure 2. What grease do I need to use? Many thanks for the video, hope you can help me out!

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

Hello, if you go to about 11:50 into the video, from this point on it refers to the bleeding process. Ultimately, bleeding is simply pushing the fluid through the system so as to expel any trapped air..... hence you need to undo the bleed valve/ nipple to allow the air to exit. Obviously along with the air, the hydraulic fluid is also being expelled, so you have to ensure you keep topping up the reservoir to replenish the lost fluid. An empty reservoir will mean more air being sucked into the system!! To push the fluid through the system you simply pump the clutch pedal with your foot (not frenziedly, just gently and rythmically). It helps if you have someone to observe and note the amount of air in the expelled fluid, or rig a camera to film and refer to.

@andrew.rimmer 2 года назад

Hi mate just wanted to say a massive thanks for the video and advise. Managed to get the same clutch cylinder for £20, along with a few other bits I had to buy and a socket set it probably cost me £50 all in. Just fitted it now and no more squeek! Thanks so much!

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

That's great news!! I'm very happy to have been of help. Now you have the socket set it's a slippery slope into tool addiction!!!!! One can never have enough tools. Good luck with future wrenching 😃

@richardwallinger1683 Месяц назад

one thing missingfrom my new slave cylinder was the hard nylon steel rod cover .

@fixitfallows Месяц назад

Other than taking it back for an exchange ..... can you salvage the one off of the old slave ?

@GaryBee83 Год назад

Thank you for the video, very well guided through, on every step. Is it possible to put lithium grease perhaps on the pedal assembly to help minimise the creak?

@fixitfallows Год назад

I can't see how lubricating any pivot point could do any harm and would surely help to eliminate any remaining noises. That said, since making this video, which was well over a year ago now, my daughter has driven this car daily and has not had any creaking or squeaking issues from the clutch, so I haven't had the need to do anything further. Thank you for the kind comments 👍🏼😎

@yahoodlums 6 месяцев назад

First off, this is a great video - so thank you for taking the time to make it. My car (2014, 1.2 model) had a ton of other cables and connectors attached to the battery tray. I also could not release the pipe from the old slave cylinder - it seemed fused together. Any tips? Yours seemed to disconnect very easily,

@BaltimoreSP Месяц назад

same here mate - took me ages to get the clip out the old one as well - -had to use a stanley blade to cut a bit of the plastic. Sprayed with WD40 and it still wouldnt budge. Havent attempted it again yet - had considered leaving the new pipe on the new slave then cutting the old join out between the master and slave and fitting a compression fitting

@roblowrie1969 16 дней назад

Great job with this. My wife's new (2015) 500 Lounge has just dumped all of the hydraulic fluid out, and the clutch pedal goes to the floor with no release on the clutch. I've had a quick look this morning, before watching this video. How easy is it to get to that big steel push fit union on the end of the supplied slave cylinder? Ive heard, as you said, that the fitting and pipework corroded, so I'm thinking, just replace all of the pipework from slave to master cylinder? How much of a pain job would that be? Any help would be much appreciated. 👍🏻

@fixitfallows 16 дней назад

@@roblowrie1969 hello, that's uncharted territory for me to be honest..... I've not had the need to go beyond what you see in the video. Are you able to see where the fluid leaked from ?

@roblowrie1969 15 дней назад

@@fixitfallows that's my next job. I'll let you know. 😉👍🏻

@roblowrie1969 15 дней назад

I had a look at the car this morning, taking the near side wheel off, and the union is fixed to the side of the engine bay, and is very wet, so it must be that. I've ordered stainless metal fitting, recommended on the Fiat 500 Facebook group at £18, and as soon as that's arrived, I'll fit it. Should just be that, some DOT4, and a junior hack saw. 👍🏻

@roblowrie1969 14 дней назад

Thanks for all the help with the video, etc. I did the job this morning, and apart from being a bit confused, as I thought the union between the slave and master cylinder pipes was on the inside of the wheel arch, not the bulkhead, the job went very smoothly. I used a kit from X8R, with included a marine grade stainless union, bleed pipe, waterproof tape, and inserts to stop the pipes crushing, for £18, it took just a couple of hours. Cut the old pipe out with a junior hacksaw, put the fitting caps down the pipes, insert the fittings into each piece of pipe, then whack them up tight. All sorted. 👍🏻

@Troy-eo4ic 21 день назад

I have fiat Doblo 2008. Is the master cylinder easy to replace? Any links please. They made is out of plastic! Ordered a new metal one.

@fixitfallows 20 дней назад

Sorry, I don't have any personal experience of the Doblo.... hopefully someone else here has 🤞🏼

@andrewbrown5799 Год назад

Hi great video got the same problem on my 2014 fiat panda 1.2 petrol i assume its very similar process

@fixitfallows Год назад

As far as I know it is the same set up. A quick visual inspection of your car and comparison to the video should confirm so. Good luck 👍🏼

@andrewbrown5799 Год назад

@@fixitfallows Im going to replace the slave cylinder on mine as soon as i get the part. So Dot 4 brake fluid is used for clutch and brakes didnt realise that.

@adambowes5955 4 месяца назад

Hi, thanks for the video! my neices car has the same noise coming from the slave cylinder, also after driving for a while the clutch becomes sticky around an inch from the floor, would the slave cylinder also cause that to happen?

@fixitfallows 4 месяца назад

It's hard to say, but you have the similar noise and feel, so this being a pretty cheap and simple procedure it's a good first "process of elimination" attempt to resolve your issue. Good luck

@robertmitchell5683 2 года назад

I like your video. Very helpful. I have the same problem and have a sqeaky sound coming from the master cylinder which you can hear from inside car by the pedal. Are you saying that if you change the slave cylinder it reduces the pressure/noise on the master cylinder hence reduce the sqeakying. Cheers Bob

@fixitfallows 2 года назад

Hello Bob. For me, the noise and sensation was actually originating from the slave and reverberating back through the system to the master and pedal. Changing the slave made a significant difference in my situation. The pedal system may have some inherent squeaks of its own, but these cam be mitigated by lubricating the pivot points. Good luck Craig

@marcopolo6668 Год назад

I've just been watching your video but hoping for some help for my daughters KA2 2011 I returned home one day as suddenly there was no clutch resistance whatsoever so no going into gear. No previous signs or warnings of clutch issue I checked the clutch master reservoir on the master and it was very cloudy (but full to the line), tried a bleed on the slave nut and no difference. I have purchased correct spare fluid I then spent about 10 mins pumping the pedal and there was very brief stiffness and it went into gear once...since then nothing and I've noticed the reservoir emptied so have topped it up...There was no leak I could see before bleeding Is it possible it is the clutch master cylinder (I've ordered one) and if so is it simply a case of removing the screws from the firewall and the piston arm will disconnect from the pedal....I did notice a switch being activated from the clutch pedal too but no idea what that ios I'm no mechanic and contacting you as your video was great and mechanic around here are very poor. Kind regards and any help appreciated

@fixitfallows Год назад

Hello Mark sorry to hear you're having problems with the car. I'll be honest with you, I have not had cause to do a master cylinder on the 500. Also, at this very moment our 500 is not here so I can't go and have a look in the footwell. However, from memory and having quickly got up some online images of the master cylinder, it looks like it is a ball / cup connection between the rod of the cylinder and the pedal. So in theory it should be a simple disconnect of that joint and as you say removal of the bulk head bolts. The master should then come out in the engine bay. It sounds very much like the hydraulics side is the problem, rather than the clutch itself. Have you placed a camera looking at the clutch arm (Slave cylinder) to observe how much/little it is moving when you press the pedal? This should pretty much confirm whether it is one or other of the cylinders at fault. Good luck.

@marcopolo6668 Год назад

@@fixitfallows thanks for your reply, much appreciated. When I press the pedal there's nothing, I see nothing and it's like the master cylinder isn't even in the loop. I cannot see much going on at the slave end. I'm tempted to replace the master from the master pipe side to start with which will save a lot of removal of the battery tray, etc and see if that makes a difference.

@fixitfallows Год назад

Hmmm, the master is the more expensive one to do. Perhaps disconnect a pipe either from the slave side of the reservoir or as the pipe meets the slave. In this way you may be able to observe whether the master is actually pushing any fluid. If it is, then it might point towards the slave. Also there is a joint positioned on the inside (engine bay side) of the front passenger side wheel arch. Perhaps this has failed and is where the pressure and fluid is being lost......?

@marcopolo6668 Год назад

Too late...I managed to replace the master (not using the hose between the master and slave and thought I'd sorted it....unfortunately not. I then noticed after pumping the pedal the fluid was going down and noticed a wet patch on the floor....(but you're spot on) so after removing the battery tray, I think I can see where it is coming from, which looks like a join section between the master hose to the slave but that's where I stopped because I couldn't get to it and no sure what other parts I need. Since I haven't used that hose from the master to join, I'm hoping its that side.

@fixitfallows Год назад

@@marcopolo6668 well, on the positive side you've made progress, having now identified the likely problem. By the way, did the master detach from the clutch pedal fairly easily?

@omv6076 Год назад

Hi great video very clearly explained. Just wondering from where did you purchase the Slave cylinder? please. Many Thanks

@fixitfallows Год назад

Thanks. I got mine from GSF www.gsfcarparts.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwuNemBhCBARIsADp74QRttaP_fNyR1DmOdyVapi0rCtoO1gnW8iWrPgJ9i3aZq0tzU6nc538aAt1jEALw_wcB

@omv6076 Год назад

@@fixitfallowsThanks for getting back, appreciate it. Tried everywhere no stock, on ebay very high price. I will wait until i find one in stock. Thanks once again for the video and the link. Have a good weekend!

@fixitfallows Год назад

Use code "SUM65" for 65% off of the £66 price : www.gsfcarparts.com/luk512004510

@nsyi Год назад

Hi, I followed your video and bought the part from GSF replaced it but when I bleed it, the oil spills around the nut instead of going into the pipe. What do you reckon I should do?

@fixitfallows Год назад

So this is when bleeding? I assume you have pulled the rubber cover off of the bleed nipple, yes? Also, check that the pipe you are using is clear and unobstructed with anything along its length.Also, you shouldn't have to undi the bleed nipple all that much, if you do you risk creating an easier path for the fluid to travel rather than through the pipe What is the pipe going into?

@nsyi Год назад

@@fixitfallows Thank you for your quick reply. I took out the rubber cover and connected a very long pipe, which doesn't go into anything it's just several meters long. It's also very snug so it's not leaking from the pipe and the nipple. Rather it's around the nut. Some fluid goes into the pipe and a lot of oil leaks just around the nut.

@fixitfallows Год назад

Hmmm, it sounds like the bore of your pipe and its length may be the problem. I'm no expert on fluid dynamics, but I'm sure fluids flow more readily along the path of least resistance.... I'm just guessing here. It's very unusual.

@nsyi Год назад

@@fixitfallows I did have a shorter pipe previously but it was the same. Im left guessing if my brand new slave cylinder is faulty. It looks exactly like yours, its from GSF but it just leaks oil all over when nut is open. Its even the same with the old slave cylinder so I thought it was by design but its different in your video.

@fixitfallows Год назад

I don't think it's faulty as you say it was doing the same on the old slave too. The common denominator is the type of pipe you are using, the bore must be too small I'm thinking..

@njulani Год назад

Would this improve the biting point too ?? My Fiat 500 is squeaking too

@bazabiker4870 Год назад

Bleeding the hydraulic system may have an affect (improve) the biting point. And if you've removed the battery tray to bleed it, and you have the squeaky clutch problem, well just replace the slave cylinder at the same time. Perhaps the old cap at the end of the piston has crushed over time, which could also slightly affect the biting point (I'm referring to the end cap that is held in place by the 2 strips that you cut after replacing the slave cylinder). And finally, assuming the operating arm hasn't been bent, then general wear of the clutch will affect the biting point, so if its high miles combined with lots of short journeys over its life = lots of clutch action, the clutch could well be wearing. But just keep driving it until it starts slipping (&start saving your money for its replacement)