FIBA Rules Explained: Cylinder, Block & Charge

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Art. 33 Contact General Principles. There are plenty of different types of contact principles that we will look that will be separated into different videos. This video will specifically look at the Cylinder principle (Art. 33.1), Principle of Verticality (33.2), Legal Guarding Position (Art.33.3), Guarding a player who controls the ball (Art 33.4), Guarding a player who does not controls the ball (Art 33.5), Charging (art 33.8) and blocking (Art 33.9). All of these play a part in determining who is at fault for contact and help increase your success on correct block/charge plays.
0:12 Introduction
0:53 Cylinder Principle
4:21 Charging and Blocking Definitions
4:49 Legal Guarding Position
5:44 Guarding a player who controls the ball
8:26 Guarding a player who does not controls the ball
10:26 Principle of Verticality
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@vodanh23456 2 года назад

2 years after the release of the video I still use it to refresh myself and teach other refs. Keep up the work

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Great to hear!

@trentbrown8356 Месяц назад

They obviously don't ref at the Seahawks then, the refs there get it oh so wrong.!

@jiwonlover Год назад

8:49 exactly what I wanted to hear

@ericdonofrio6946 3 месяца назад

This is the best video on the topic that I've seen

@andrewcarey6109 3 года назад

Great instructional video (again!!) - Keep em coming!!

@ThomasHodson Год назад

Brilliant! Thanks so much for the clear explanations, it's helped me figure out some fundamental mistakes I've been making for years. It would have been awesome to get explanations over the end video examples as what I saw and what the call was didn't always match up 🤔

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Glad it was helpful! I will keep that in mind in future videos!

@ryuga2852 2 года назад

I wholeheartedly thank you for this video. Thank u very much for explaining these concepts and helping us understand better.

@erizsharper Год назад

Thank you sirr for this video it really refresh our mind sometimes we tend to forget the details,great video highly recommend this to all the referees regardless their experience

@giovannisiocson6690 Год назад

Thanks for this video👍

@fitnesswitness1311 Год назад

Totally amazing layout of the rules thanx so much

@refereeuniversity Год назад

You are so welcome!

@ccgccc9029 2 года назад

great video!

@ham.ster1997 3 года назад

great job!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪

@thewelshwizard5869 3 года назад

I love this and the new rules video you guys have posted, but surely, you didn't say at 6:37 that the defender, after establishing Legal Guarding Position, "CAN extend his arms, shoulders, hips or legs to prevent the dribbler passing by them" , you surely meant CAN'T.

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

I apologize, I did not emphasize the ending of can't. You are completely right, they cannot extend their arms and I meant to say CAN'T. Thank you :)

@thewelshwizard5869 3 года назад

@@refereeuniversity There is really no need to apologise, I wasn’t sure if it was my hearing. I’m just so impressed by the videos and have found them immensely helpful. Thank you from the UK

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

@@thewelshwizard5869 Thank you so much! Happy I can be useful!

@umm1384 3 года назад

great video bud earned yourself a new sub

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

Awesome! Thanks for subbing!

@j.m.6733 2 года назад

amazing video!!

@JAllan-sp5ji Год назад

love it! Thank you!!

@refereeuniversity Год назад

You are so welcome!

@MDTmanProductions 2 года назад

Is there any chance of doing a video or video series on 3x3 - particularly with its very different interpretation of charge/block situations? I have read the official 3x3 rules on charge/block and can see no difference in them compared to the 5v5 rules yet when I watch the world tour and Olympics matches the 3x3 referees (who all also ref high level 5v5 ) allow defenders to consistently heavily displace/push (ie block) players driving to the basket. It seems like FIBA have agreed years ago that 3x3 has to be more physical, 90s NBA style, without making it clear in the rules. Anyway thanks for your invaluable FIBA rules explained playlist, especially this video in particular as that's pretty much all we referees use in England!

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Thank you! I appreciate that! Yes, 3x3 is different in what they allow but I do not know how long it will stay like that. It used to be way more rough and they have cleaned it up a bit more. I believe they are trying to maintain a balance of flow and physicality. 5v5 you can have a bad quarter for scoring and fouls and still win the game. 3x3 is a game to 21 and every foul matters. If I have time this summer, I will see if I can put a little video together on it.

@rohanverma3777 2 года назад

Just wow i am enlighten

@refereezhad1507 3 года назад

Credit for this video and promise I learn a lot sir.😉

@mindaugasbalsys8301 3 года назад

Thank's for this video great work.But one question when draymond green kicked the player against it was a whistled foul for him and then green kicked him for it or not a double foul here?

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

Great question!The kick would be either A) Disregarded if a natural motion or official deem accidental B) Called an unsportsmanlike or disqualifying foul (Due to it being a dead ball contact situation and/or excessive contact). Due to it being more than a a personal foul, it can not be deemed a double foul. Hope that helps!

@mindaugasbalsys8301 3 года назад

@@refereeuniversity Thanks for answer.

@StephenWong14 2 года назад

There's much gray area in lateral movement to maintain guarding position, especially when you're defending someone attacking the basket. It relies a lot on the discretion of the referee.

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

True, they usually look at shoulder to mid of chest and who got to the spot first

@atoiler1389 6 месяцев назад

At 13:00, I think the call might have gone either way in real life! What was the principle action that elicited ruling it a block? @@refereeuniversity

@ericdonofrio6946 3 месяца назад

Same question

@selassieaspen9940 20 дней назад

4:06 lmfao like he call Draymond like it's his own thing.😂

@henrydugarte12 8 месяцев назад

La FIBA DEBE traducir estos mismos videos para la comunidad latinoamericana de habla español. Esto sería muy útil a la educación del baloncesto. Muchas personas piensan que, sólo leiendo las reglas es suficiente para aprender a jugar o arbitrar. Esto sucede en mi comunidad basketera. Y, quienes saben algo, se aprovechan de la falta de conocimiento, del otro, para convertirse en la máxima estrella de este deporte. Ya que, tampoco, existe educación de esta disciplina por parte de la asociación de baloncesto de nuestro estado (provincia)

@bluefiery24 3 года назад

Great video. What about on-ball defense with minimal hand contact? Also what about post defense, can you place your arm on the offensive player?

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

The current consensus is that the defender is allowed a touch but cannot keep the hand there. If they are driving and the defender has an arm bar protecting themselves (in their own cylinder), it probably won't be called (no advantage gained in most cases) but that differs from league to league due to different philosophies. Post defense you are allowed to have an arm on the offensive player as long as it is not extended or pushing the player. I was going to release a video on this but I got really busy. Hopefully this makes sense! Let me know if I need to clarify anything better!

@MadaraUchiha-lo7qt 3 года назад

@@refereeuniversity when im playeing myself sometimes i go drive to the basket really quickly but offbalance. The smalller player pushes me of balance and redirects my trajectory away from the straight line to the basket. Is this legal, it happens when im playeing pick up? They do this with their chest mostly but i feel like sometimes they sneak a lil bit of arm in there

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

@@MadaraUchiha-lo7qt If you beat the defender to the spot and they bump you (regardless of size) it is a foul.

@MadaraUchiha-lo7qt 3 года назад

@@refereeuniversity goddam thank you! At times it feels like its impossible to get near the rim without using brute force and luck. Thank you very much for the information!

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

@@MadaraUchiha-lo7qt Of course! No worries!

@kicksgeeks9008 2 года назад

Hi, is there a way I can send you a situation clip and ask some question regarding the cylinder principle?

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Email is listed on my description :)

@Uprising771 Год назад

dramond green kicked his way out of the cylinder

@donluchitti 4 месяца назад

what about a player in the post defending in a legal guarding position and an offensive player with the ball with their back to the defender is bumping backwards, posting that player up, pushing him backwards with his back or butt? if it hits the defender several times, is that a charge? If it hits the defender in the torso?

@refereeuniversity 3 месяца назад

You could call a charge for displacement, it would be up to the referee's interpretation

@Magyar9Andras 3 года назад

4:57 So if I go vertical on the corner 3 pointer and my defender goes vertical too but touches my hands with his, is he entering my cylinder?

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

Sorry I did not see this! If defense is vertical and not progressing forward when defending the shot (moving up not forward) then the defense is legal. Cannot penalize defense for maintaining their cylinder and verticality! Hope that answers your question!

@kedvaldez 2 года назад

If you attempt a triple threat move (jabs) between the legs of the depender does it also mean illegal? (Outside the offensive cylinder)

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Potential for offensive foul due to being out of their new offensive cylinder rule. If contact is advantageous and places defender at a large disadvantage, you can put a whistle on it. It is usually a play on, but defense should not be penalized for it.

@kappablancA Месяц назад

we have a discussion almost every practice about a very specific scenario Player A is on a sort of Fastbreak situation, nobody is in front of him, but player B is coming from behind and tries to block the ball Player A wipes his guarding hand behind him and it creates a contact with player B so Player A contacts with his arm slightly out of the cylinder, while player B also is coming from behind (no legal guarding position) and infiltrates player A's cylinder whats the right call here?

@refereeuniversity Месяц назад

Definitely a tough decision off of no video, but from the scenario you described, it seems like the offensive player's contact is negligible and can be passed on, defensive player B's contact can be deemed a foul depending on if it affect's player A's movement or contact is enough to put a whistle on. As referee's, we judge if contact needs a whistle and if this scenario was to be a foul, it would most likely on Player B

@DeDonTrae 2 года назад

Can we get a video on how to show the numbers to the table when a player fouls .

@refereeuniversity Год назад

I can add it to the list

@quadnumber 2 года назад

hey just wondering about the screens video?

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Are you requesting a video be done solely on screens?

@user-ig7uz8ze3k 2 года назад

Hello! I have a question about pushing a opponent with player's back like post-up and box-out. I've seen several times this situation. For example, Kobe's post up, Dennis rodman's box out etc.. They push opponent and displace opponent's position. But I cannot find any legality pushing with player's back. I think it's just pushing foul according to rule book, but my body tell me it's just part of basketball. And question 2, In act of post up, Is it legal to use offender's arm in offender's cylinder? not his elbow. Some push opponent with his one arm bar or shoulder not his back. I'm Happy to ask you a question

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Hello! In the NBA, they interpret the rules a little differently due to star players, different athletic abilities, and calling the obvious (Focus on elephants more than mice is the term). Well known defenders/players sometimes get away with more because of their history of being able to defend or score. You cannot displace people in basketball or it usually ends up as a foul. A referee friend of mine used this principle on boxouts, if you go to the opponent for a boxout, you are fine, but if you go through an opponent (like a displacement) we should have a foul. As for offence, they cannot hook to gain an advantage. If they use their off arm and displace an opponent and gain an advantage, they should have a foul.

@user-ig7uz8ze3k 2 года назад

@@refereeuniversity Thank you

@huddel3854 Год назад

Why is the second foul at 12:54 a blocking foul? Isn't Smart in legal position and moving sidewards and also getting the contact on his torso?

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Smart does take the contact in the chest and it is a close call. Stop video at 13:07 and you will see Smart go into Westbrook, defense initiated the contact with their chest resulting in a block.

@Kirmo13 2 года назад

This video is amazing! Keep up the good work. I have only one question: can the defensive foul at 16:25 count as an unsportsmanlike foul? I don't know the precise rules about unsportsmanlike fouls, but this sure looks like one...

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

You can call it an unsportsmanlike foul (Due to it being a hip check) but most referees would not because they would deem the contact not excessive enough. Just a defensive foul for bumping the cutter off the ball. I would call a personal foul not unsportsmanlike in my opinion

@Kirmo13 2 года назад

@@refereeuniversity 👍

@JenChiehShen 3 года назад

People who play basketball should see this!

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

Thank you :) Feel free to share!

@thedrbunny 7 месяцев назад

What about ball handler uses shoulder or head to create space?

@refereeuniversity 7 месяцев назад

If it extends out of their cylinder, then we should be looking at an offensive foul

@isaakvanwegen2784 Год назад

Why is 12:55 a block? Isnt he moving laterally

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Smart does take the contact in the chest and it is a close call. Stop video at 13:07 and you will see Smart go into Westbrook, defense initiated the contact with their chest resulting in a block.

@dacowthebol9325 3 года назад

Film session. How is that a blocking foul smart vs Westbrook?

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

Smart does take the contact in the chest and it is a close call. Stop video at 13:07 and you will see Smart go into Westbrook, defense initiated the contact with their chest resulting in a block.

@dacowthebol9325 3 года назад

@@refereeuniversity thank you. This has helped my defense tenfold 🔥🔥🔥

@dacowthebol9325 3 года назад

@@refereeuniversity how do you guard people who bump off of you with their shoulder for a stepback or layup?

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

Defense needs to beat them to the spot to take a charge (Pippen) or they have to anticipate and close the separation after the shoulder bump. This move typically does not get called an offensive foul unless overly advantageous.

@KurogawaTeon Год назад

On last video (with girls) it probably technical, bcoz, if I remember well, u can't touch player when he is off the court. And when was contact girl white step in out, so she was off court.

@refereeuniversity Год назад

The player contacted her, which caused her to go out of bounds, technicals are mostly non-contact fouls. Typically, we want players to stay in bounds when plays are ran.

@tommywolmart265 11 месяцев назад

Wait, also, if a big is powerfully backing down and bumping their defender off their spot, is it a foul?

@refereeuniversity 10 месяцев назад

It can be, depends on the league and referee's understanding of cylinder principle

@andimaiden1 Год назад

What happens if defender is stationary and takes a charge into the shoulder?

@refereeuniversity 3 месяца назад

depends on how close to the torso it is. If it's the side of my shoulder, I should not have a charge

@tuanas458 4 месяца назад

Niiiiiiice

@tommywolmart265 Год назад

Wait, technically, according to this every time someone dunks on someone it's a foul, if their arm extended towards the basket causes contact with a defenders vertically extended arms, or even if they have a heavy lean

@refereeuniversity 10 месяцев назад

Technically yes, but it tends to come down to how much it affects the play. I believe this year a dunk was waved off due to the off arm in an NBA game. Usually highlight plays like that, actions get ignored (off arm)

@msrnake Год назад

I don't get why Pippen's one is a charging foul. It seems like he's not taken the legal position and he's supposed to move laterally, to avoid the the contact when the offensive player changed the dribbling direction.

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Pippen took it in the chest, offensive player dropped shoulder outside of cylinder. It's a close call that could go either way but that was most likely the criteria. There is the possibility that Scottie's resume of being a defender could have helped influence the call.

@sherab2078 Год назад

So I theoretically understand the difference between offensive and defensive fouls, as explained in this video. Still, in practice, I find out that most situations that I see as offensive fouls are called blocking instead. I'm talking mostly about under-the-basket situations. Calling a charge seems to be more common in the perimeter. But in the "painted" area, if a defender hasn't established the legal guarding stance way in advance, it is called usually a block. I'm pretty sure that this is me making mistake. But I don't know where I make it. What do referees see that I don't? Or maybe there is favoritism towards an offense to keep the game more entertaining to viewers? I have the impression that in practice players in the offense are allowed to be way more aggressive than in the defense. Anyway, I stay confused about this matter.

@refereeuniversity Год назад

This video might help your scenario: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l4Ojjp5W0Xc.html They could be getting called block plays due to the criteria of the no-charge semi-circle.

@thefirepenguins74 3 года назад

What about the typical call that James Harden gets every time he swipes his arm under the defenders arm to cause the contact? My understanding is that it's not a fault anymore right?

@refereeuniversity 3 года назад

From my understanding and reading of the NBA rule book, they do not talk about cylinder principles in regards to positioning or contact on the floor. They mention forearm and hands contact. So in the many cases of Harden fouls, the defender has an extended arm or forearm which Harden rips through to draw a foul. As much as Harden is initiating the contact, the defender is extended and results in a defensive foul the majority of the time in the NBA. They tend to reward offense way more and title it as freedom of movement. As for FIBA, if the arm is extended out of their defensive cylinder outlined in this video then they can be deemed responsible for the contact. A referee can deem that extended arm gather that Harden does as his natural shooting or gathering motion. However, if the defender is slightly out of his cylinder and Harden throws himself into them or completely extends his arms out of his cylinder to draw a foul, referees probably will not reward him. We tend to look at who is out of their cylinder and who initiated the contact which would be the criteria in making the call. So some Harden plays will be no calls and some will be defensive fouls in FIBA. All depends on what occurred.

@goulioofficial3037 2 года назад

at 15:42 if the number 38 green pushes 13 red is unsportsmanlike foul?

@refereeuniversity Год назад

It would have been a C5 UF but now it's a Throw In Foul in that situation

@yusufkarya8316 3 года назад

legal guarding position video model > pippen 😁

@voetbal12 Год назад

Just call it consistently on both ends.

@panecake2105 3 года назад

I dont see any difference between first charge and the second blocking fault the rest I agree with.

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Great Question! First one, offense goes into defenders line ( defender beats to the spot and offense drops shoulder and goes into the movement line), second video offense goes down a line away from defender, defender creates contact by moving into his line. Basically 1st: offense goes into defender, 2nd defender goes into offense

@MS-ho9wq 6 месяцев назад

2:50 honestly, I'd call the defensive player for reaching over first here

@refereeuniversity 3 месяца назад

good news is with the new cylinder foul call, it would be a defensive foul first :)

@henrydugarte12 8 месяцев назад

Fiba should translate videos into spañish for latinoamericana basketters.

@refereeuniversity 7 месяцев назад

If I knew Spanish, I would

@KurogawaTeon Год назад

Btw, under this rules u now can't play old-school double team.

@troyjudd6990 5 месяцев назад

Westbrook on smart looked like a charge to me

@refereeuniversity 3 месяца назад

Smart did not establish LGP

@jacobunderwood4160 2 года назад

How can Shaq push people if a defensive player maintains a legal defensive position ?

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

Great question, not all contact warrants a foul call but Shaq definitely pushed the boundaries of those rules. He should not be able to go through a legal defender but up or down the lane.

@kentlou.delacerna 6 месяцев назад

11:31

@78tag 29 дней назад

What is the point of reviewing all of these rules when the officials don't abide by them ??

@refereeuniversity 27 дней назад

Abide or interpretation? This a tough question, because it could be due to not knowing all the rules, it could be by interpretation, it could be not knowing what the written rule looks like in a game. That is the goal of our video resource, to address some of the concerns that led to inconsistency.

@78tag 27 дней назад

@@refereeuniversity ...or don't abide because the league is instructing you to call it the way that is advantageous to the league and the owners.

@refereeuniversity 26 дней назад

@@78tag Yes, that can be possible depending on the league. It is up to the league and assignor to instruct what to call

@user-em8fq2ev4b Год назад

No use making sure everyone knows the rules when ref calls are inconsistent...

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Refs are not the only people that should learn the rules to create consistency. If basketball as a whole improves, it changes the norm.

@user-em8fq2ev4b Год назад

@@refereeuniversity And how would basketball improve? As in the rules? You sure ain't asking the players to do that right? The players are there to win, however it is allowed.

@refereeuniversity Год назад

@@user-em8fq2ev4b Players learning the rules definitely helps them improved, it is not required to be a great player but if you think of how the game grows, they learn from coaches and other players on what the rules are from gameplay. If they get called for a travel in pickup game, or a coach calls it in practice, they assume those are illegal plays. That's how most players learn and apply it to themselves and the future generation. Which means that if more people know the actual rules or stayed on top of it, a culture changes in how it gets passed to other players. Basically, everyone learns through gameplay, not reading for themselves. More people learning the rules, more people applying them correctly in gameplay, creates improved growth

@refereeuniversity Год назад

@@user-em8fq2ev4b Also, there is a good amount of referees that ref how they remember the rules being applied to them. They do not really read the rules which results in inconsistency. Which supports my previous statement

@dumb_as_rocks 2 года назад

cylinder rule is such shit. what about closeout blocks, or a clean block where you get all ball, even if your hand is slightly forward instead of straight above you. destroying the art of defence

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

The cylinder is just a foundation to help determine fouls. If I jump up and come out of my cylinder but block the ball, that is a legal play. Going out of your cylinder just gives an opportunity for a foul call. Just like a steal, I can reach out of my cylinder and steal the ball. It just helps the defense where if they are in their cylinder and there is contact with body or hands, they are not illegal and should not be given a foul.

@dumb_as_rocks 2 года назад

@@refereeuniversity okay so I guess I misunderstood the rule. all the refs in my local league have too though :(

@refereeuniversity 2 года назад

That is unfortunate because the cylinder rule is to aid in not penalizing the defender when they jump straight up regardless of severity of contact. Not to enforce foul calls on people going out of their cylinder because you can do that if are not causing illegal contact on their bodies.

@dumb_as_rocks 2 года назад

@@refereeuniversity I think they need to go to Referee University!!!

@Serjei..Angel.e Год назад

Very spam publicity.

@mariovercillo1319 Год назад

the toughest thing for me on potential block/charge plays is the "no call". When there is significant contact between the two players, everyone in the building is expecting a call one way or the other, but reading the play and determining they're both legal and making no call is hard.

@refereeuniversity Год назад

Defintely, especially since no-charge semi circles tend to cause these plays