When you have never ridden anything like this. This bike is a Ferrari compared to my 80s bike with one gear... Just my thoughts.. no gimmicks just raw power .
Hearing that the components let this bike down and not the frame, I wish they offered a bare frameset. Too many companies only offer their high end framesets, but getting the speedster frame by itself you could make a much better full bike for cheaper, even if you stuck with cable disc brakes, but did a hybrid like the Juin Tech F1's with a Sensah 1x12 group set and some Elite wheels 😁
While not owning the Speedster 30, I do own the gravel 40 EQ variant. The frame is the same, but the fork is alloy and it shipped with shimano BR RS305 mechanical disc brakes. Both those and the Tiagra groupset were quite a positive surprise to me. As far as internal routing is concerned, I can only say that I have taken it apart and changed/rerouted the housing twice...not a big deal at all.
I bought this model (as road bike) a few months ago, I had a vintage road bike and a basic 3x9 MTB with mechanical brakes before it. Positives: 1. The frame is quite good. 2. 32mm tyres are great for begginers. You can change them for 28mm. 3. Every screw comes with it´s torque gauge. 4. Stem is quite nice since every cable is internal. Negatives: 1. Brakes definetly need an improvement. I couldnt find a great difference in stoping power vs a basic MTB. 2. Shimano Sora is fine but I would like to see this bike with an Tiagra hydraulic option (Speedster 20 is Tiagra with mechanical brakes). 3. Saddle is bad, 135mm and almost no support, changing it is a must. 4. If you need to change the stem is an issue since you must use an original one (more expensive).
Found my comment from the original CT article on the release of the Speedster range "The gravel options look like so much better value. At only 100 USD more you get 10 speed GRX hydraulics over Tiagra mechanical for the road version, not to mention there's technically more that you paid for in material (frame and rubber). The gravel version with the same Tiagra and mechanical as the road ones is 100 USD less and it comes with fenders!"
I have seen a lot of bikes spec GRX400 (the 10 speed version) with Tiagra levers and Hydro brakes; what beginner or enthusiast who's been ridding a while wouldn't think that's really really good ?
I just bought the Speedster 30 in the UK for £600. It was kicking around at the back of my local bike shop's warehouse & it was my frame size. It replaced a 19yr old road bike I'd fitted a compact crank to a few years back. I suspect I'll fit 28c tyres to it & pop the 32c on my everyday Hybrid. First thoughts are it's a comfortable ride & coming from side pull brakes the discs feel pretty good to me.
Hidden cables are a just show stopper for me, nearly lost me watching right there. Glad I stayed for Betsy's Toyota Camry review [!!!] and an actual objective analysis. Thanks.
I recently borrowed a bike with cable disc brakes. They worked OK but it made on thing clear to me. I would much rather have good set of rim brakes than cable disc brakes any day. After years of being used to disc brakes on my gravel and road bike and cantilever on my commuter bike, it was nerve wracking until I got used them. And those weren't all that bad as I didn't feel unsafe once I got used to them.
Interesting comment about the frame being "high quality" and "very impressive", but being brought down by a bad component spec, especially for the price. When folks ask for bike buying advice, it seems as though 90% of the time people say to get the best frame you can afford and worry about upgrading components later as your budget allows and your skill/need/desire grow. Was Scott was trying to do that, but misfired with the crappy brake pads and boat anchor tires (if they're the 32mm Luganos, they've got wire beads and weigh 420g each)? For the issue of headset spacer changes and the difficulty imposed by the internal cable routing, especially for a bike at this level, do they not use split-ring spacers? If not, that seems like a local bike mechanic employment program designed right into the bike :-). None of my bikes have internal cable routing and I still wish I had split ring headset spacers at times.
If you had to compare this one with the trek domane al 2 or 3 (same groupset, budget wheels, tektro disc breaks, price point), which one would you choose? The domane al 4 had an outstanding review, the speedster has a review that criticises the modern bike industry. In my eyes both bikes seem the same except some geometry details.
Just compare the components and geometry and make your decision based on that. Try riding both. Treks are way more popular and sell more bikes so there are more reviews out there as more people have them. I personally don't like longer reach bikes as I prefer comfortable endurance geometry vs race geometry. Focus on those aspects.
Confused by the pricing, is the speedster 30 really 1800$? Here in Germany it says 1200€; 1800€ is the one with 105 mainly, so not a bad deal really. Ofc I personally would go for sth like a Triban 520 as it is a lot cheaper, but I can only really get the critique if the bike is oddly overpriced in the area where you tested it.
I ordered a speedster 10 2022 in Germany for $1,800 .. the only downfall at the new price ranges for 105 / hydraulic .. is that the speedster 10, top of the Alu line, is STILL 10kg. Only downfall. Kills me that I can get bikes for 100-200$ cheaper that weigh 1kg less
and what the benefit of that 1kg for you? :) you will not even notice that 1kg difference. if you are a pro and ride 100+ km, maybe you will ride ~15 seconds faster on 150km distance, but if you are pro, you would buy smth which costs more than 5K and weights 7kg.
Since the fashion of ProTour bikes is trickling down maybe a needed is frame of reference like Formula 1 vs. sporty street-legal cars would help. When the option to gravel ride is a possibility. make it a sporty cross-over. Commonwealth Games 2022, Aaron Gate - Road Race won on rim brakes - yeah!
I bought this bike to put it in my home trainer, serves the purpose, but it does kind of sucks for the money. When I update my main road bike, I’ll pass most of the components to the this bike, but is going to be a headache to run the cables though the steam
Not quite sure why professional reviewers and cyclists would pick this bike? Personally I love my Speedster 10. It's a good looking bike and today it's at a great sale price. Mine have a carbon wheel set and I'm all in for 2800.
Hey, just got a 20 2 weeks ago. Love it now after few changes. Tyres are useless, puncture on 2nd spin ripped tyre so back to shop. Also both whees out of true after less than 100 kms. Bike shop were great, retrued and locttite on nipples. Discount on mew upgraded tyres, Panaracer Ribmos. Now its nearly perfect. Eventually upgrade the wheels and them to hydro brakes but as is now after tyre and wheels fixed Im very impressed. Hope that helps your choice!
Harsh review but true in 90% of what they say… BUT the only good Scott Speedster is the speedster 10. In Germany/EU it’s only $1,799/1,799 euro for the speedster 10. Nothing is trying to be aero. Some people want to have a certain position as let’s say, a backup bike!! Versatility too is big !!
Arguably, any aero speed gains from hiding all the cables and housing are actually dangerous considering the higher speed will make it even harder to stop with those brakes.
You should be riding a 49 with effective top tube length of 525 instead of the 52 with ett of 540. Because the "S" of other bikes has an effective top tube of 530 or so..and hence a 49 speedster would have been a more like for like comparison. You found the reach long because of that. When hiring bikes try to keep the effective top tube length same across brands rather than the name of the sizes. I was only giving an objective reason why you found it badly fitting. I agree with your other assessments on the bike ofc. The bike isn't that good.
This bike is a mess! Who did they spec this for ? That aside. tektro brakes are fine, not great, but serviceable. Those pads must have been garbage. I left MTB to start off riding gravel and mixed road on a Sora set. and for a beginner its a perfectly nice set. But at this price point they should have min 10 speed Tiagra with hydro brakes. It may be uncool to not have fully concealed cables - but its wasted at this price point, no one starting out needs fully internal cables. Anyone more experienced would be getting a better frameset than this ! THEN if they feel they want it - sure. But "budget friendly" options ? Leave that garbage out and give better components !! Price-wise for $1,700 ? You can get a giant revolt , with Sora and a MUCH MUCH better bike for like $1,100 that fits up to 45mm tires/ carbon frame/ d-fuse and is a hugely better platform to grow into with upgrading components. This bike make no sense.
I think its the most moronic "feature" ever but people like fully hidden cables. Sadly people buying an entry level bike like this will not know how much of a pain this will be. Imagine making your first attempt at maintaining your bike and its got this moronic system.
@@crimson177 I agree, I do have some internal routing on my bike (all my cables go from the bars normally to ports in the frame), sure - but this mania that seems to have sprung up lately with fully concealed cables is just not needed. and yes if they can't maintenance the cables and brake hoses themselves, that is going to be a huge cost. Even if they just want to change a stem of some spacers. Its really dumb. "oh but it's to Aero" - No thanks - I have a nice light Ti gravel bike * LOL. Fully concealed cables is something I do NOT want or need.
Nothing wrong with a bland bike. It’s got 2 wheels, it’s not a 105 lightweight machine. It’s a bit pricey doesn’t seem much better spec wise then a £700 bike from decathlon… real life performance is crap if the breaks don’t work. They prob need better rims I much prefer exposed cables. So much easier to fix on the trails