Fienix, the Modern PowerPC Linux Distro

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Fienix Linux is a really cool PowerPC-first Linux distro. Let's install it on the ultimate iMac G5!
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@jeffbillings 2 дня назад

One man’s e-waste is another man’s e-treasure

@bufanda 2 дня назад

Regarding package issues, you had 30 not upgraded packages in one screen. Maybe a apt full-upgrade could have helped. Probably the package you wanted to install just needed the new versions of libraries that weren't updated yet.. Just a wild guess

@CFWhitman 2 дня назад

I was thinking the same thing. Fienix seemed to be rolling, so if that's true, that is what you should be doing anyway.

@taxevader86 2 дня назад

FEIN LINUX ? THATS WHAT AM TALKING ABOUT 🔥

@couldnt.really.say. 2 дня назад

Fein fein fein

@Xlib_2000 2 дня назад

@@couldnt.really.say. fin fin fin fin fin fin

@clazypantsjr 2 дня назад

@Xlib_2000 feiiinn feiin feeiin yeah

@alexgamingyt-cj1bf День назад

travis scott linux

@kirekocev2587 День назад

Real

@realdragonrude 2 дня назад

The issue with your gpu is that you might be using the legacy branch of the radeon driver you could try making a conf file in the X11 folder to tell the kernel load the amdgpu driver instead but that would depend on if that gpu is compatible with the amdgpu driver which it might not be since it's an older amd graphics card the archwiki has all the info about this and most of what is listed on that wiki works on other distros as well

@olnnn 2 дня назад

That gpu is way to old for amdgpu, it uses the radeon driver, amdgpu only supports GCN 1.0 and newer gpus (e.g many radeon HD 7000 series) which are like 8 years newer. It is barely new enough to be still supported by up to date mesa though and it's worth installing a very up to date version of mesa if possible as there is actually passionate guy working on improving r300 driver for these very old radeon cards. (THe pre-dx9 ati cards are not and only supported by the buggy mesa-amber legacy branch so don't work nearly as well on modern linux for anything graphics acceleration)

@johncate9541 19 часов назад

@@olnnn Correct. Even my Radeon HD 6970 can only use the radeon driver, and it's five years newer than what is in that G5. But getting the latest Mesa going might fix whatever is wrong here.

@bradmccartney187 2 дня назад

We Powermac users need new options in keeping old hardware up and running. Glad to see at least one more great option still out there. Thanks Sean for sharing this with us. Keep the great video's coming.

@TroubledTrooper 4 часа назад

Hell yeah

@alanharkleroad4376 2 дня назад

Eventually, it is the famous last word of people everywhere. But Fienix is what I'm going to to to my G5 Imac, eventually.

@propjoe1060 2 дня назад

Love this channel. I have an old iMac G4 at home somewhere. Must give this distro a shot!

@hardlyworgen71 2 дня назад

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@Gamerbay2017 2 дня назад

You should do a series of trying to run Minecraft on as many Macs as possible - see how many can!

@mllarson 2 дня назад

Yeah a Mac LAN party would be fun to watch!

@couldnt.really.say. 2 дня назад

More like see what can't

@4ngeldus739 2 дня назад

That's literally just this channel though, he's tested Minecraft on pretty much anything that will run it

@couldnt.really.say. 2 дня назад

@@4ngeldus739 wish he did a little more then mac's tho, like to see how he can modernize an old 95 rig or something

@4ngeldus739 2 дня назад

@couldnt.really.say. he has plenty of macs from the 90's, I've been watching for a long time, never get bored, maybe you're looking for something without an Apple badge on it? Like LGR?

@singletona082 2 дня назад

Your channel is why I'm considering getting an older Power PC Mac.... Damned you sean! I don't have the money for this!

@ActionRetro 2 дня назад

hah!

@notuptome День назад

Start a gofund me . 😂

@Rajorsi 2 дня назад

6:13 Perfect time for a segue featuring a sponsor protecting you from getting on to phishing websites by mistyping the link. 😎

@GuyJames 2 дня назад

I have the exact same G5 iMac (had no idea it was rare, either) and so obviously I'm going to give Fienix a try, thanks

@richardbrobeck2384 2 дня назад

Me either I have the same machine too.

@Sparky400 2 дня назад

The real rate one is the version of this with the CF card reader.

@GuyJames День назад

@@Sparky400 mine has that too 👍

@ChrisJackson-js8rd 2 дня назад

T2 still supports powerpc and pretty much everything the kernel drops

@jarms40 2 дня назад

First: Casey rocks. This is a great service to the PPC community. Secondly, it would be great if Fienix offered some NVIDIA proprietary drivers (or if the development environment worked so that drivers could be installed manually). Nouveau doesn't quite do it for most Mac compatible cards.

@andrewrandrianasulu_ 15 часов назад

Eh? This is powerpc, big endian machine. I do not think Nvidia's proprietary driver was ever ported to that (macos x driver also probably quite different from linux one ...) one problem with nouveau was different non-4k page size set for most Linux kernels back when ppc was supported architecture. There of course might be another set of gremlins because according to at least one Nouveau developer Ilia Mirkin (who implemented a lot of video decoding /reverse engineering on x86 for nv30/40 gpus - geforce 5200/6xxx series ) - those gpus had only partial support for big endian operations .. so much fun for driver writer .. too much for one, evidently

@jarms40 9 часов назад

@@andrewrandrianasulu_ One should be able to compile the Linux driver for the PPC, no?

@andrewrandrianasulu_ 6 часов назад

Linux driver still mostly binary object, and I am fairly sure does have few simplifications when it comes to commonicating with gpu. On LE machines you send 4321 to card On BE machines you send 1234 easy to deal if you only ever talk to one register, but there are many, many of them, not counting PCI apertures for accesing VRAM directly from cpu side ... Older Nvidia had some hardware byteswapping built-in, but you must configure it separately. Unfortunately, even simple TNT GPU from year 1999 was too complex to fully undeestand/emulate. Full drivers for PS3 (Also powerpc + nv40 alike GPU) never materialized, even if RPCS3 emulator now run games ... gpu driver development is hard, esp. if your error just hang everything hard way.

@andrewrandrianasulu_ 5 часов назад

powerpcliberation.blogspot.com/2015/07/g5-nouveau-2d-acceleration.html?m=1 on nouveau/G5 situation back in 2015 ....g4 might not suffer from this,soecifically? But as evidenced by Hackintosh community late Apple had interesting habit of hardcoding gpu output table into their AMD driver, so many non-apple gpu cards ended up sending their output to /dev/null ... may be some blackscreen issues actually of this nature?

@LonksAwakening 2 дня назад

I got that exact model for free from a trash pile on the side of the road. Almost none of the distros I’ve tried, other than one specific Ubuntu release have worked, so I guess now I know what I should put on it

@JohnPorter4096 2 дня назад

Hmm I'm liking the new series - hopefully that 4 GB stick arrrives soon!!

@thecorruptedbit5585 2 дня назад

P.A. Semi's PWRficient G5 might've kept the G5 going in mobile form for a little longer, but it was too little too late in 2007

@aytviewer2421 2 дня назад

Really love those extremely deep bass "thuds" in the outro. They sound awesome on my speakers. oh yea!

@macintush 2 дня назад

I used to have this computer 😢 i wish i still had it

@andrewr1355 2 дня назад

Thanks for the video! I have a G4 iMac I need to replace the HDD in and I couldn’t decide if I wanted to go with old Mac OS or try PPC Linux. This distro looks great for making an old desktop marginally useful 20 years later.

@retronoobtech8551 2 дня назад

I know you won't answer as usual, but I'm glad you gave space to this beautiful distro. I have used it for almost a year on my G5 dual 4gb ram, and I must say that as an experience it is certainly more refined than debian vanilla. That said, there are many issues that have prevented me from fully enjoying it as an office workstation. First of all, DE cinnamon is very slow, and honestly this affects the experience. Then, I was absolutely unable to get the digital signature I need to work (Arubakey) to work. It's just a shame.

@aytviewer2421 2 дня назад

Crazy it's already been decades! Crazy!

@curiouspharmacy4775 22 часа назад

I had this PPC iMac. Used it on mac os for a long while then switched to Ubuntu Mate till version 16 when they dropped support. I think i was using this till 2018 and then donated it. the b43 fw cutter wifi issue has plagued all macs with broadcom chips even intel ones. but lots of guides online on how to fix it. This thing was a beast. I remember we turned off the screen and used it as a NAS at one point. Great memories.

@janetno1fan 2 дня назад

I want more Haiku videos :)

@MacManPro36 День назад

I second this!!

@terinjokes 2 дня назад

How now, that's a screenshot of Gentoo on x86-64!

@CACressida День назад

I have a g5 imac in my garage i use to keep inventory of all my crap. It couldnt play youtube videos a decade ago either.

@markshade8398 День назад

Nice job, as always!

@kirekocev2587 День назад

Fein fein fein fein fein fein 🔥🔥

@atemoc 2 дня назад

2:13 Another distribution that supports PowerPC and an obscene amount of other CPU architectures and hardware is T2 SDE Linux. Quite unknown even though it has been here for decades, and it is still actively maintained.

@ghostraider4312 2 дня назад

Impressive what the Linux community brings to the table. 20 year old hardware still having life.

@dmwzr День назад

>Literally nothing works, but it prints Totally usable! 😀🖐

@alexandrecouture2462 2 дня назад

I had a similar experience with Debian 12 PPC on my G4 PowerBook. So many packages missing...

@kyanche День назад

I find modern linux to be fantastic with printers and scanners! It even handles scanning from my ancient canon mx860 with no need to install anything.

@NerdFrequency 16 часов назад

The architecture isnt quite dead yet. I have to work on PowerPC based SBCs at work and this project looks like it might be useful in development.

@aytviewer2421 2 дня назад

Why does it seem that software back then was both easier and more "funner" to use?

@corylyon545 День назад

Because software as a service hadn't taken over yet. Consumers actually expected to have real productivity suites.

@aytviewer2421 День назад

@@corylyon545 I still think most desktop software is better performing and feature-laden than SAAS. Not only that, but the old buy once and use till you feel like upgrading or migrating was fantastic too.

@Lilithe День назад

8:00 Textures weren't missing so much as... all facing away from you for some reason? Yeah it looks like all the normals in the game are flipped. Some weird thing in the build?

@VincentOuellet-fy3sy 18 часов назад

At first glance it looks like backface culling applied to front facing polygons, but this would likely result in no graphics being displayed at all. Moreover, it seems to mostly affect nearby polygons. At 8:04, almost no polygons are missing. I'm wondering if a driver bug is causing this; the drivers for this GPU haven't seen much maintenance recently, at least as far as I know, even less so on ppc/ppc64.

@VincentOuellet-fy3sy 18 часов назад

And the glitchy graphics on SuperTuxKart kind of confirm the driver issues. But hey, I'm not complaining about the impromptu unlicensed Boundary Break episode!

@BorisaComputers 6 часов назад

Thinking about putting this on my 20" iMac G4 lampshade

@Maxxwell-07 День назад

Another fun project would be to fit a mini pc in that case and essentially make your own all in one

@BRBTechTalk 2 дня назад

13:37 I love messing around with that kind of hardware. I used to have one of those but with the Core2 Duo not the Power PC processor.

@TwelveBaud 2 дня назад

The problem with installing Java was that it was also going to install the latest trusted root certificates, but that package says it needs the Ubuntu-tweaked Java and you were installing regular Java. Which is super weird. Based on what I saw on your screen, the problem with installing build-essential is that the GNU compiler suite doesn't have a default PPC build anymore; you may need to use a different name to install it and then convince dpkg that that really is GCC, GPP, etc.

@nadirafurry 2 дня назад

here is some weird distros based on debian I've tried recently: Antix, MX linux, and q4os. I really do like the trinity desktop.

@richardbrobeck2384 2 дня назад

I will keep my eye on this project because I also have this same computer that I would like to use to stream music !

@dkctc 2 дня назад

I have an iMac G5 A1058 17in version. I've been using it as a doorstop in my bathroom to prevent the door from blowing shut when the windows are open. Maybe I'll find a replacement doorstop for an afternoon lol.

@classicube 2 часа назад

Sweet video, as usual 😎

@sdgx0 День назад

mac86: all i see you do is install linux and make computers cry

@benotsilent6703 День назад

I bought an imac a1058 for $50 last week. It powers on but stays at the mac os 10 boot screen forever. Now I get to take it apart and spruce it up like you did this one. It's the 17" version, not 20" unfortunately but still something fun to play with.

@Fatblokeonamoped День назад

I installed this after last time's video Sean on my MDD Twin 1.42Ghz on a fresh SSD and stock GPU but after install I just got a black screen during the boot. I followed the instructions on the Blogspot web page for ATI GPU but didn't sort the issue. Seeing how you've had some GPU issues too, I don't feel so bad now however at least you got to the GUI interface. I won't give up on it because it's great to see a Linux distro for PowerPC and it looks pretty darned cool.

@metallurgico 2 дня назад

A Blogspot site? It sounds so retro

@thecrow3461 2 дня назад

This linux distro makes this computer actually very usable, i'm surprised!

@abdelali9279 2 дня назад

Fein, Fein, Fein

@stevielynn7130 День назад

I'm always down for exploring Linux distros! I am crazy enough to daily drive Ubuntu Studio, after all...

@ZanyCat 2 дня назад

The 3D graphics are very fast at being wrong!

@jekylltraveler 2 дня назад

Would be interesting to see if you can build Yocto images for these older PCs.

@mattsword41 2 дня назад

ah crap, there goes another weekend. going to have to try this 😂

@TradieTrev 2 дня назад

T2 SDE Linux also supports PowerPC btw ;)

@TroubledTrooper 4 часа назад

YT vids to VLC or MPV is a perfect way to watch vids on old hardware on Linux. DLing YT vids may be against the TOS of RU-vid but I think it should be given a pass if you are poor with a computer like this and it's your only option.

@therobb5738 День назад

I have one of these macs, but not another mac to do target-disk mode on. So Linux looks pretty good for an install. I also have the core duo mini mac, but it's in pieces and I probably won't be putting it back together. Sure do miss it though!

@gluttonousmaximus9048 День назад

I wonder if similar efforts have been made for the earlier 90s Macs

@patrickfinie4102 День назад

Tumbleweed wont work as support has long since been dropped from PowerPC Big Endian. PowerPC G5 support was dropped in 12.1. All work on the Power build is targeting the Power 8 and 9 architectures which are Little Endian. All the apple PowerPC processors are based on Power 3-4. I hope this helps.

@dxniner День назад

8:52 you should be able to use yt-dlp and any media player (i think? personally i use mpv) to play youtube videos as a stream without needing to download the video first. not sure how a powerpc will handle it, but it should be the most lightweight way to watch youtube if formats aren't an issue.

@Francois_L_7933 2 дня назад

I wonder if this thing could run MorphOS? Now that would be really interesting... 😉

@tracyterpstra 15 часов назад

Will Fienix Linux run on a modern Raptor computing power 9 processor reliably? Could you do a video testing / demonstrating that?

@jacobmckenna8661 2 дня назад

It's kind of crazy that all intel macs are capable of running Windows 10

@will_it_work День назад

Intel also started innovating around the time too. The P3/P4 era was terrible. So the timing was right.

@yorkan213swd6 2 дня назад

You did not install those brocken fils when booted first time (firmware?)

@Txm_Dxr_Bxss 2 дня назад

I installed Fienix a year ago on my iMac G5. I think there was no arcticfox around then.

@serje78 2 дня назад

Hrm, Debian based Linux on G5. Just curious - does it support VA-API libs? Not necessarily on this iMac, may be on MacPro G5. Theoretically is there are proper GPU drivers with h264 video decode acceleration? Firefox can be forced to use vaapi for video decode In some... bizarre rig one may can even try Broadcom Crystall HD video decoder (if libs available today).

@DrewBlue32 День назад

Do you know if this will work on PPC laptops like the iBooks and Powerbooks? There are a lot of those where I live.

@faenethlorhalien День назад

Yeah, I had a music teacher who got his G5 (a Mac Pro, but whatever) literally 1 month before Apple went Intel. Oh boy...

@pud469 2 дня назад

I never had any luck with Fienix linux on any G4. Could never get it to install, but also never tired on a G5. I really think that one step in supporting these old machines is to get yaboot back. I definitely installed Debian Sid on my G4, and used EXT3 so I can run yaboot vs grub. It was a bit of work, but much better experience to not have to go to the boot picker to get to MacOs for troubleshooting. yaboot was simple, grub is clunky, unpolished, and hates MacOS. There is some code out there for yaboot and ext4, but I have no idea how to integrate it, and even if I did, I do not believe 100% of the source is available. I guess maybe the future should be getting grub to better support PPC MacOs. What i really do not get is the 7 small partitions it creates.

@EdCayo 2 дня назад

Do you know which distro would work best for the 2006 model core2duo 17’? It’d be awesome to be able to use mine again

@GSi999 2 дня назад

Try with Java 17, it is LTS. 18 is not. Or even 23, it launched on September this year

@speedsrj День назад

I have a couple of Powerbooks here, does it work on G4?

@Jester2All 18 часов назад

"taking e-waste and torturing it with Linux" 😂 ☠️ I subscribed just because of that 😂

@DavideNastri День назад

What is the magic tool he is using to download RU-vid easily? Neat! Love this Linux, does it perform decent on g3 / g4?

@Charaqat 2 дня назад

I would assume that the Linux distros that still support PPC will also support the newer-ish Amigas from Acube or A-EON so thats useful too as AmigaOS is ?discontinued

@charlesjmouse 2 дня назад

Thank you. I wonder if MorphOS could be persuaded to run on this machine?

@markshade8398 День назад

What is the name/link for the RU-vid downloader????

@CharlieBravoDXB День назад

How is this rate. I have 8 27" g5 in my attic. Also this is peak macos with this beautiful wallpaper

@cal2127 2 дня назад

id love to have a g5 quad machine

@Ghozer 2 дня назад

I thought Fienix was eol, and support/updates had stopped - at least that's how it was at the start of the year, has the situation changed now? :D

@boydpukalo8980 День назад

I am pretty sure linux AMD GPU drivers/Mesa have long standing PPC-BE bugs causing the graphical glitches you experienced in 3D?

@Smok_win98 2 дня назад

When are you going to do the emac video that you was fixing

2 дня назад

nice

@dimka4996 2 дня назад

I had similar issues with this GPU back then, but on windows xp and Pentium 4. I don't know exactly what it is, maybe vram

@imranonthenet 2 дня назад

Can you please tell me if there is any way to run Java 11 or higher on any PowerPC based Mac. I searched all over the internet and I couldn't find any solution.

@replikvltyoutube3727 День назад

It would be cool if you could try out T2/sde linux

@aaroncook7709 2 дня назад

Fienix still doesn't support the Radeon x1900 in my G5 quad. It does, however, "work" with Adelie... just needs some open firmware persuasion to get going.

@ibobeko4309 2 дня назад

which browser can you use on Adelie and does RU-vid work ?

@aaroncook7709 День назад

@@ibobeko4309 Its been a little while since I used it and it appears to totally messed up. Apps don't open, commands entered in terminal aren't found, i'm no longer in the sudoers file, su doesn't work... BUT all the man pages seem to work. It does ship with an older version of Firefox that did work... but youtube played better in Leopard (better drivers I guess). It took quite a while to get Adelie working and I don't really wanna do it again. I tried Fienix again on my quad and it still doesn't work... even with the stock geforce 6600 card. Doesn't boot my dual G4 with radeon 7000/9800 either. After today's failure with Adelie I just want something that works.

@ericwood3709 2 дня назад

This is why my PPC Macs just run various versions of Mac OS. It's what they are best at / for, and I'm just glad to have old Macs that work at all. Good way to do some classic gaming and geekery.