I would take a chemical sleep over insomnia any fucking minute. The time when I couldn't have a proper sleep for 9 days straight was absolutely horrible, and once I've got my hands on a drug prescription, I've finally fallen asleep. I didn't feel reinvigorated with life afterwards, rather hollow, in fact, but reality came back to me and it was as cathartic as things could get back then
i think its that plus tyler kind of slipping into the narrator's consciousness. when he meets tyler finally, they stop putting in those little flashes of him.
It is both that reason and the fact that Tyler only exists in the narrator’s mind. He flashes 3 times before the narrator meets him indicating that he exists only in the narrator’s point of view.
It’s also a pretty good representation of how when you’re sleep-deprived objects & figures will often flicker in your peripheral vision. Not quite hallucination, more like a quick “wait, what was that?”.
TL;DR "The narrator" dubbed "Jack" by fans played by Edward Norton, whom the perspective of the movie was filmed from was Tyler Durden's alter ego. Tyler creates Jack when he was 6 years old to deal with the loss of his father. Jack was the sound of reason to a totally lost boy and eventually a man (Tyler). Jack had the personality "it will all payoff shortly". Tyler was someone who was fed up with life and eventually decided to take drastic measures and take back control. Tyler thought throughout most of his life that being Jack would make him happy and believed Jack would have a happy ending.
Everyone else in the comments talking about insomnia and I’m laughing at the corporate jargon. “You want me to deprioritize my current reports until you can advise the status upgrade?” “Make these your primary action items. Here’s your flight coupons, call from the road if there’s any snags.”
Something I noticed is that at 1:46, when he's talking about waking up in strange places, the doctor dismisses this by saying "You need to lighten up". Thinking a bit about it, it's a bit of a strange response to someone having spots in their memory (especially when that sentence alone could have warranted further examination). Then I realized that the narrator is looking straight at the camera while saying this - he's not looking at the doctor until 1:55, which makes me wonder something. The narrator doesn't look off in other directions when talking to people, he's always looked straight at people when they talk, but Tyler has a tendency to look somewhere else when talking. Mentioning that he has narcolepsy could give Tyler away - if the narrator got medication for himself then he could suppress Tyler without him even knowing he was there. Because of this, I believe that the narrator is NOT saying this line to the doctor, but that Tyler gains control for a second to say another line to make the narrator's issue seem less intense - then gives back control in that split second.
I wish they would make an entire room at IKEA dedicated to his apartment. I would buy every stick of that furniture, especially the table in the shape of a yin yang.
This scene has been helping me cope for that last few days. Night shift insomnia is so painful. The only way i can force myself to sleep is to get drunk, but i know it's very short term and i shouldn't do it. I'm so scared, i can't figure out how I'll get back to normal. What if I'm always this way??
I know its easier said than done, but can't you quit your job and find one in the daytime? Do some job hunting? Your health comes first friend,always. If something happens to your coworker for exemple, The Man will just replace them.
@@lifting_weab oh shoot, sorry for the loss mate, but its great that you identified the cause for it. Sleeping is one of those things I take for granted, but its important for us mammals I guess, be well!
everytime i come back here. there is a deep cycle going on in my life. aswell as change. shifting and unshifting. human beings are so flawless , priceless, unique, their limited, primal minds cant even comprehend the amount of detail, & precision that goes into withholding their existence, & the order of reality. shiny object syndrome, and monkey mind thinking and feeling, they cant open their minds beyond the binary, the dual. but the yin yang is one circle, you cant have wholeness/harmony without light & darkness, yet (to no fault of their own) they seek to make everything "light" not realizing if they let go of that effort they would realize a higher light. this is just the flow/channeling of the infinite. yes nothing is in your control, yes everything is in your control, both those statements can be true at the same time, tho they defy logic. you must be open to accepting that their are higher intelligences then logic/thought, but they must be felt. You are attention /or energy. concentrated into a form(body) yet their is the formless (water) which has no form, meaning it can change and become anything. it is not bound by anything. it simply adjusts itself effortlessly into the needs of the present moment. your mind is like water , or it can be rigid, if you are not open to change, to flow.
It's HELL. I nearly lost it at the doctors today when he started getting difficult re sleeping tablets. They give them to women easily enough but not guys. I said "do you want me to go back to half a litre of spirits a night", and nearly said f*****g spirits. "No need to raise your voice" . Aye there bloody well IS. Cos i got something prescribed.
Im dealing with the same situation as him I haven’t been able to sleep for six months straight I quit the gym because I couldn’t sleep I recently started again and I still can’t sleep ive tried every melatonin gummies and every other thing and most ive gotten is about 4 hours of sleep.
"With insomnia, nothing's real. Everything's far away. Everything's a copy, of a copy, of a copy." As someone with insomnia that line always stuck with me. It's weirdly accurate.
0:08 how tf did they portray the visual perception of the insomniac so accurately in this shot? It's subtle, but those true insomniacs who have been severely sleep deprived will resonate with that shot. The dissociation, the weird fucked up depth perception, the flat and fake appearance of one's surroundings, like being in a constant dream-like state mixed with a drunken stupor. This scene, and this whole movie, is a masterpiece.
In some crazy way I've flipped I look forward to the isolation and the night of no sleep I've started to dread the day and the people that come with it
Phenomenally put. This whole movie is almost surrealist. I feel like the droning ambient score in the photocopy scene is also reminiscent of sleep deprivation
@@wifegrant your comment brought me back here, and I just feel it's important to state that my insomnia has greatly improved since I wrote this post, and I'd suffered for years with it. So don't give up. To anyone reading this, your insomnia can go into remission as mine has. I'm still not a great sleeper and I'm prone to disregulated routines, but if you really work at it you can get much better. When my mental health gets bad I end up going without sleep for months, but as long as I take care of myself I can achieve _some_ semblance of normalcy with my sleep.
This is me right now. I'm working nights in a steel factory, often sleeping 3 or 4 hours a day. Last night I was almost falling asleep on my feet, dying to go to bed. I finished at 6am. It's now 830am and I am here. This is awful.
@@TheRealMCMXCIII hey! Thanks for your kind words! As of 3 weeks ago I came off night shift, and am back to living a happy, regular life. I hope you are doing great, and thanks for being a kind person!
Watch the scene closely he says "can you please just give me something" and the doctor looks at his hand shaking and he stops immediately the doctor obviously thought he was a tweaker.
I now have insomnia. This is totally true. You lose all sense of reality. You're not asleep, but you're never really awake. You slip in and out of full consciousness, the living husk that wasn't there mentally, yet couldn't find the relief of the unconscious. Edit: The night I wrote this, I got my first real night of sleep in...as long as I can remember
Hey Brother I feel you there but similar to this movie finding an actual fight club (formal Martial Arts training) does actually help a lot with this kind of stuff
It is a god damn impossibility for me to forge personal intimate relationships....so I buy STUFF. That's what I do. And I'm about to drop $770 for a TRD Gauge cluster for my JDM SW20 MR2 Turbo. I CAN'T GO OUT WITH WOMEN BECAUSE I INHERENTLY COME OFF AS A GOD DAMN CREEP, SO I BUY FUCKING "THINGS" TO OCCUPY MYSELF. Buying shit, because you can't have a relationship...that's what gets me. That's consumerism culture I guess for those of us, purported incels in society.
"You need healthy natural sleep" Uh doc, what part of insomnia do you not understand and can you even call sleep caused by narcolepsy to be healthy or natural.
That clip of the doctor is only too real. In my experience they all don't care and enjoy seeing you suffer as long as it's not life threatening they enjoy contributing and seeing your face when they tell you "no"
you guys dosnt undrestand insomnia, not because u did not sleep one night thats mean u got insomnia or maybe u slept the day, how u want to sleep at night!! its more than that its about people who cant sleep for days... not just 2 or 1 night!
@@trabelsi5428 If I can't sleep one night, I'll have so strong headache, my brain doesn't work... I cannot imagine how they feel, if they didn't sleep for DAYS 🤕🤯
I love the part about the glass dishes - the little bubbles are proof they were "crafted by the honest, simple, hardworking indigenous peoples of, wherever."
I finally was able to sleep after 3 days of having not even a second of sleep. This clip helped me cope but don't worry folks you WILL sleep eventually
The ending was awesome when the doctor told him he needed a healthy natural sleep. What doctor says that today? They would just write a prescription of at least 5 drugs so that they can make money!
i've been dealing with insomnia for the past 2-3 months or so,never had it happen to me before. It's so heart breaking to know you're bound to wake up in the middle of the night or early in the morning and stay there for the next 3-5 hours. At least it reminds me of my favourite movie of all time
@@joaopaulojp1426 It's gotten better bro. I didn't use any pills or medical assistance,but my sleep has facilitated. The only problem that remains is that sometimes i wake up after 4-5 hours of sleep and find it really difficult to resleep. Falling asleep at night is not much of a problem for me though. I hope it gets better for you,it's something that derives from one's psychological situation, I reckon. As time passes by,you will cope with it dont worry. If it goes on though,there are several medical ways to get rid of it(valerian root for example)
@@joaopaulojp1426 this is exactly what happened to me. No matter how tired i was. One thing that helped me, was to get out of bed once i woke up. Get up for some minutes ,try to have a little stretch or walk. It will then be easier to fall asleep once you get to bed again
In the last 3 weeks, I’ve experienced REM sleep for roughly 14 hours. People start to seem almost distorted, giving them an “uncanny valley” effect. Lighting and shadows start to become flat, like prop lighting from a gritty 80s movie. Manic episodes suck, but it’s really fun when you’re peaking on your upswing and conquering the world.
The Narrator having his real doctor fluff him off was malpractice-tier. Even in the 1990s they had sleep specialists who could’ve helped with his insomnia.
I can help you. Free yourself from your consumerist prison by giving me all of your things. I don't mind the burden, hell you don't even have to pay me. I'm kind of like Jesus in that way.
I struggled woth insomnia when i was 17 and 18, literally the worst time for that shit I bumped into people and droped things without even noticing and i slurred when speaking, if i could come up with a proper sentence Im so glad that time's over.all u really need is to say fuck it and do some thing that makes u tired and sleep for 10 hours each day until it goes away. It worked for me
This writing is so brilliant it makes me grin ear to ear. Every. Single. Time. And p.s. I doubt many people will get the Horchow reference, but that is shere gold.
This is so true if u ever have insomnia and u see this movie 🎥 movie 🍿 and this scene it will really hit home. With insomnia nothings really real. Everything’s far away everything’s a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy! Come on man I’m in pain! “ no u need healthy natural sleep, chew some valerian root and get some exercise.
People were so bored in the 90s with stable jobs and disposable income that they had to beat the shit out of each other to feel something. All we want now are stable jobs and disposable income lol
@@JohnSmith-sd4mn a medical doctor is someone who PRACTICES MEDICINE. Refusing to practice medicine is MEDICAL MALPRACTICE. Adderall and Xanax are drugs (medication) that are typically prescribed for the reasons you yourself mentioned. I have no clue what you think a doctor is or what they do, but you have thoroughly owned yourself.
They only thing unrealistic about this scene is how honest that doctor was. You usually will get prescribed at least something when you go to the doctors.
I'm dealing with insomnia all of a sudden, kind of in the middle of a breakdown lol I sleep three or two hours a night, cannot bring myself to sleep I just pass out and then have to be awake for work lol I'm not even groggy the next day like in Fight Club, I have to be 100% focused for work, so I just kind of nod off for split seconds every few hours lol
I like the bit where he goes through his flat showing the names of the products therein. I think that reality is like that, as I think Mach and Buddhism said. We are presented with our sensations and we extract and isolate "things" from within that continuous flow which we then name. The artisanal glasses with tiny bubbles, and the copy of a copy of a copy, is based upon Jean Baudrillard's "For a Critique of the Political Economy of the Sign." I had read the book shortly before I saw the film and believed back then that I would soon reach enlightenment!
I get like 12 hours of solid deep dream filled sleep every night So i have that going for me Now that i have gotten myself a good nights rest its time to return to throwing rocks into the societies mechanisms
I should have realized immediately that the narrarator was unreliable when he said that he didn't sleep for 6 months, Buuuut I was also like what 14 years old when this movie came out so sue me
"Get more exercise." Well, he did that with all the fighting. Jokes aside, Doc's right: exercise helps with the body needing sleep for rest and recovery.
As a someone who won cancer in my childhood I can say insomnia is worse than cancer. There are few health problems in this world that will make you to commit suicide. Insomnia is one of them. I stare at the ceiling all night and can't sleep. This world is fkn hell
