Jermaine had talent for sure, but MJ had a God-given gift that couldn't be replicated. Can't wait to see how this continues. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop. 🎉
Um no it was Jermaine he was lead first til marlon and Michael joined in 65-66. Joseph only wanted to see Jackie Tito and Jermaine sing he thought marlon and Michael were too little
Jackie also had a self titled solo album in 1973. So technically 3 brothers had solo careers during Motown. The song “Is it him or me?” Was sampled by A Tribe Called Quest
Marlon had a solo album too and Randy started his own band randy and the gypsys but this is about which brothers had the biggest most successful solo careers and it was only Jermaine and Michael
@@kareemeverison actually @Lamb over Rice is correct. This first part of the mini-series is talking about their Motown years in the 70s and Michael, Jermaine, and Jackie all had solo albums while on the label so it was three brothers at the time, not two, that had solo albums while still being members of The Jackson 5.
@@kareemeverison True but The Video is talking about the Motown years. Eventually every sibling released a solo project. But During Motown Jermaine had two solo, Michael had 4 & Jackie had 1.
Jermaine was a talented individual, I remember his solo career. He had some really decent hits, your in good hand, let’s get serious, let’s be young tonight. He was a force for sure, but Michael had a dedication to his craft like no other. He was determined to be great and he was!
Too add, let us not forget how young Michael was, so in theory Jermaine had more of a childhood life where with Michael he didn't so yeah he is going to go hard. Those grooming years mean a lot, as well it was Jermaine that left his brothers when they wanted to control their own lives and career by leaving Motown. The label didn't want to respect the growth that, "The Jacksons" had to offer, Jermaine thought (allegedly, speculating) "Aw shit, I can get my spot back as the lead, yeah Daddy's home was a hit so why not, yeah baby, I can get the Funk Brothers play to behind and bring the hits! Time to act, think, think, I got it! where's Hazel?"
@@anthonytaylor7928 I guess the dum dum you are talking about must be yourself. MJ stood out, was more talented and that was why he became the most successful sibling from the jackson family. That is the bitter truth.
@@Diamond92826 how old are u ? It's a given that he stood out stupid . But if u were around when they first hit then u would know they were all equally as popular from a promotion of marketing standpoint that what made them all superstars at the time so they all stood out in the beginning stupid ass dufus
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@@westyravizThey all have one thing in common...plastic faces😂. I'm just joking btw, the Jacksons are the greatest family band of all time. I wish Michael were still with us. I often wonder what he would think of the music industry of today and what his new music would have sounded like. I guess he would have been something like Madonna today.
@@malbrojay4740 It’s pretty challenging for older acts to release new material which turn out to be hits. Their fans tend to prefer their older material. He would have done very well performing his “oldies” in a Vegas residency or overseas.
That Michael enjoyed the company of his brothers on stage with him is something you could even see at all of his solo tours. With sooo many songs, especially the ones he did with the jackson 5 and the jacksons earlier, he always had 4 dancers behind him, mimicking pretty much what his brothers used to do.
@@erenyeeagah204 I don't agree that he was much more relaxed when he toured with them, especially not the victory tour. Their rivalry intensified and got too heated at that point and they traveled separately. It was a whole mess and almost ruined the tour. Michael became much more relaxed when he went solo and had full control
Jermaine lost the battle before the fight even began! They are all talented, Jermaine, of course, as well. Michael was born to lead the Jacksons and, to later, go solo. RIP, MJJ. ❤
I really like Jermaine, he's a great singer and bass player. He had a few hits like "Daddy's Home" and "Let's Get Serious", but he still deserved more success in his solo career. Not even the partnership with Whitney Houston was enough to leverage his career once and for all, a pity.
And he had the R N B , Successful Group ! Call Switch in the 80, s . The Brothers in that Group ! Was , Thomas, and Bobby Debarge . That Really how , the Actual Debarge Family Members and Group ! Came to the Music scene . Jermaine Jackson . ( Yes ) . 😊
@@terrimansfield6212 A 19 year old heartthrob getting married and having a very big wedding to the heir of Motown is a career killer. Imo, Randy is more talented than Jermaine Jackson.
whitney wasn’t famous yet when she was on his album, I believe it was her first record appearance ever. Plus, Jermaine still had a good solo career years after up until he tried to diss Michael on Word 2 the Badd.
It’s ridiculous to compare Mike and Jermaine. They were 2 totally different men, with 2 totally different talents. Some people just have a gift. Michael was one word: special. I personally prefer the vocal tag team of Michael and Jermaine. Jermaine staying at Motown was his downfall. It would’ve been cool to see him at CBS with the rest of the brothers.
Agree he would have made more money and it would have boosted his career more cause they had more control, and Mike would not have always been lead singer
@@aharonbenyisrael8387 No offense, but in my opinion, there was no reason for Jermaine to stay at Motown as a solo artist. He was not that type of singer. Had he never married Hazel Gordy i think he would’ve left with the brothers. Even Hazel wanted him to go with his brothers. Til this day Jermaine still says he stayed cuz he felt he owed Motown and wanted to be loyal. Michael basically had to sing EVERYTHING when they went to CBS with occasional vocals from Jackie.
I can't help to wonder if Michael would have made the career he did if Jermaine had followed the brothers at CBS. Perhaps this "breaking up" is what helped Michael "grow up" or let's say "gain in maturity" and take his flight towards the mythical superstar he became. I guess we will never know and can only speculate, but it's interesting to wonder. ;)
Yaaa it’s prolly true but I think that’s normal. In any group/band, there have to be members in it that feel had they been promoted the way the lead singer was, they’d have a good solo career. Latoya Luckett or Kelly Rowland were just as beautiful n talented as Beyoncé, she just wasn’t promoted as the lead singer. JC Chasez was a better singer than Justin Timberlake but he wasn’t promoted as the lead singer. For any bandmate to have those thoughts is normal. I’m sure JJ resented MJ at times but don’t think that MJ was always this innocent angel either. When it comes to Michael or the family in general, it is JERMAINE (not Jackie/Rebbie/LaToya) that is defending him since the mid 80s. In the last child molestation trial it was reported in case MJ would be found guilty, Jermaine had a secret arrangement to fly him out of the country to whatever country thst USA couldn’t extract MJ from. Larry King asked Jermaine, if that happened, wouldn’t U have gone to jail & Jermaine said yes. I respect any man who fights for his family even if they aren’t always getting along.
Although Diana Ross generally gets the credit for “discovering” the Jackson 5 back in 1969, it was actually soulful singer Gladys Knight who first brought the brothers from Gary, Indiana, to the attention of Motown hit-maker Berry Gordy.
MJ is a couple of yrs older than I am, but when my little friends crushed on MJ, I was in love 😻 with Jermaine! I still love listening to Jermaine sing “I found That Girl.” 🥰
Thank you for telling the truth about this normal sibling rivalry !! Those guys loved each other . I can totally relate to Jermaine’s feelings about Michael . He was only concerned and rightfully so about the people MJWas surrounding himself with . I read Jermaine’s book and it was soooo interesting and enlightening about their family dynamic . I also understand MJS dilemma also as I have a son in the business and sometimes the business can be so demanding he may not always pick up or answer my calls , not because he doesn’t love me or want to talk . Just because the business is so frickin time consuming . Ultimately Mike and Jermaine loved each other and were very close .
Taylor fronted the band Bobby Taylor & the Vancouvers. At a 1968 concert in Chicago, a family group called The Jackson 5 were their opening act. Impressed by the group, Taylor arranged for The Jackson 5 to audition for Berry Gordy and other executives at Motown.
You guys always get this wrong, who he called was Suzanne and she saw them at Bobby house and she talked with berry to come and see them and to let them audition for Motown
Michael was in a class of his own. Jermaine is a good singer & it stops there with him. Michael on the other hand had the total package plus more. His light was just to bright to share the stage with his brothers🤷🏻♂️
Jermaine is extremely talented in singing well and playing bass at the same time, however, Michael was a once in all lifetimes talent. The group Hanson had a similar issue where the record deal was signed based on one brother as lead singer and another brother took over and did all their hits. The BeeGees had a similar dynamic. I'm not criticizing the excellent video, I am pointing out that sibling drama is an issue in sibling groups
Can you imagine being pegged as the lead, to only have your little brother take your place..a tough pill to swallow...thinking what could have been..Jermaine’s attempts for a solo always in Mike’s shadow..as witnessed in that embarrassing diss track he sang about Michael..
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If you know Jermaine's song "Tell Me I'm not Dreamin'" ft. Michael MJ outshined him on his on his own song lol. Edit: Jermaine should've stayed with his brothers. The rest of his brothers kept polishing their talents and making hit singles.
@@DTownNash you did not say when they sung it live, you said on the song. also michael literally left the stage so he was probably resting for a bit, Jermaine stayed on stage
I don’t understand, Michael outshined everybody, that’s kind of what a superstar is… also, people forget that Jermaine had a nice following and was really if not the first, one of the first Black teenage sex symbol… not like today but on the covers of teen magazines etc…
@@ghs54 teenagers are heartthrobs not sex symbols.. 🤨 and no michael wasn’t the first.. that would be frankie lymon and the jacksons (all together) was the first teen group to become teen idols.
@@nathanlopez5667 I have it and love it. But also have all of the Jackson’s discography and on the albums Triumph and Victory, Randy sang lead on some songs and I loved his vocals. Same on 2300 Jackson street. I think Randy should’ve stayed doing music. Such a great talent but he had so many issues in his life.
@@nathanlopez5667 I love that song and Can You Feel It? I was a little kid and saw them perform that song and to see Tito play that guitar was amazing. His riff sounded better than the keyboards. He should’ve started like a funk/rock and rnb group.
A Great, Effective and Efficient Team/Group...is one the is composed of teammates/members who understand and respect their roles! I think the Jacksons did this very well!!! Now I have always sensed that Jermaine wanted the spotlight...but I think HE KNEW his little brother was Very Special!!! J5❤
I Really wish they would've stayed together because then Michael Jackson wouldoved bin here today. RIPM J. HERE we are 2023 and I still cry I Missed him so much I❤U MJ 😢
Michael Jackson is the only one in his family and in the world. Never existed another singer dancer human man never compared to anyone. Michael Jackson is ONE👑💫❤️💙🌻🦋🦚
This was a nice video. Michael named his first child “Prince”. Not to be perturbed, Jermaine then named his next child, “”Jermajesty”. “Oh, God!”, muttered Michael when he heard about it.
MJ was just *different* 💯 Those "chosen one" type of people happen every once in a while. Jermaine had his share of hits👍 But there's only one "chosen one" per family, and Mike was IT for the Jacksons.
Theres no perfect family but they we're ALL at his side during his darkest moment n JJ was ready to risk It ALL if M was going to jail. I dislike the way some family nembers are kinda of vilanized by the fandom.
Would love a video on Johnny Jackson, the Jackson 5's drummer. He can be seen a couple times in this video. Was on drums for them during the 60s and 70s, until Sugarfoot took his place in the 80s
Father Joe Jackson (July 26th,1928- June 27th,2018) Mother Katherine Jackson (May 4th,1930-) ---------- Children: 1.Rebbie Jackson (May 29th,1950-) 2.Jackie Jackson (May 4th,1951-) 3.Tito Jackson (October 15th,1953-) 4.Jermaine Jackson (December 11th,1954-) 5.LaToya Jackson (May 29th,1956-) 6.Marlon Jackson (March 12th,1957-) (Twin brother Brandon died after birth.) 7.Michael Jackson (August 29th,1958- June 25th,2009) 8.Randy Jackson (October 29th,1961-) 9.Janet Jackson (May 16th,1966-)
Were they? It seems in every single Jackson 5 covered video, it was always stated that the brother Michael was closest with was Jermaine not Marlon. Just because they’re very close in age doesn’t mean they’re the closest
@@atribecalledlen3567 in Michael book he said that they were closer growing up until Marlon got married. Marlon looked at Michael as his substitute for Brandon look it up
Marlon also had a degree of success. #2 R&B single from his solo album. The contract between Motown and the J5 was signed two days before Marlon's 12th birthday. March 10th 1969. 7 year agreement. Which was broken by the J5 in '75.
It's crazy @:07 about the mentioning of the thing that preformers and singers and just anyone who performs on a stage and no matter the art form back then....they all wore costumes as a requisite. It was a must. The costume was supposed to standout as much as the performance and the performer performing it. But not really overshadow everything on stage at the same time. It was just a big part of other big parts of everything else on stage culminating into just one big memorable act. Anyway I say all that to say this.......I wish that people would bring back costumes and especially in the singing world. Even all of the original rappers and leading into the mid 80's all wore costumes on stage as well. Even rappers and rap groups like NWA back when they first started lol. But I can't see rappers of today doing that tho.
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I believe that all the brothers were talented in their own ways. The things they each brought to the table is what made the J5 as great as they were. But it’s always that one ☝️ and well it was MJ in this case . He earned the title king of pop ❤…
They encountered what every successful group encounters...traps of divide and conquer. But it's amped up 20 × more when the group is not only Black, but Family. Nothing sells more than a family rivalry!
Barry Gordy broke up the Jackson 5, And the Supremes. FLO died with only $50 dollars in her bank account and Diana refused to help her. I read about that in the Jet magazine back in the day. 😢😢😢
Wonder if Jermaine never left the group would things have turned out differently.. like the affect it would’ve had on the trajectory of MJ‘s solo career.
@Nick Xero well maybe he wouldn’t have been so motivated to go solo as soon as he did. I’m sure eventually he would i just mean the timing of when he did..
Randy as they all would tell you is right there with MJ, Janet Jermaine then Randy and Rebbie. Randy was a multi instrumentalist who had a charting album “Randy & the Gypsys” with videos Perpetuators and Love me Honey on RU-vid
Jermaine is a fine singer, some say underrated. The truth is that he did not have enough talent, charisma and acting like Michael to face great artists of that time, such as Prince, Madonna, Whitney Houston, George Michael, Freddie Mercury and company. Randy, for example, plays multiple instruments and his voice is underrated, also his older sister, Rebbie Jackson, is a better singer than Janet and Latoya.
No, Jermaine had enough talent. What he didn't have was the same level of ambition and intense commitment that MJ and Janet had. MJ was by far the most ambitious popstar ever. He burned with very intense universal aspirations of success. MJ seriously aspired to become as big as he eventually became. Jermaine didn't have this. He had the talent. But talent is never enough. Also, MJ understood very early on that the music industry was a business, so he approached it like one, and made very intelligent and strategic power moves to secure his goals for super stardom. He wanted a black musician to become as big as the biggest white artists that ever existed and he was angry about the fact that the racist segregation in the industry never allowed any black artist before him to become mainstream global acts. So he deliberately planned to overcome this. This gave him a very powerful sense of purpose that Jermaine simply never had
@@for-house-stark I never said that I had no talent. On the contrary, I stressed that he was a good singer. But do you seriously think he had the talent to take on the big shots of music at the time? Do you see Jermaine competing with Freddie Mercury, Prince, Tina Tuner or George Michael? The truth is that the competition was very close and in the eighties and nineties what there was most was talent, therefore it was more difficult to stand out, to succeed as an artist. You had to be different, have something beyond just being a good singer or just playing instruments. Surely there are hundreds of bands and artists who had the same ambition as Michael, but did not achieve success. Also, Jermaine did have intentions of going solo, but you have a valid point, Michael aspired to be the greatest black artist in history and he achieve it.
@@robertj.batista listen, many successful people don't even have that much talent. They had something else which always proves to be more effective and more important than talent. That is relentless determination. That is what Jermaine lacked. Think about Madonna. She could barely sing and she doesn't ever show up on ANY greatest singers list. She danced but she wasn't the best at that either and doesn't show up on any greatest dancers lists either. She could put on a great show with great production. But she never had any standout talent. What she had was relentless determination just like MJ. She came from humble beginnings, people underestimated her and most artists felt she would never have any longevity in the industry because it was obvious she wasnt a spectacular singer or musician or talent. Despite all this, she proved em all wrong and went on to become the biggest female popstar ever and the biggest selling female artist in history. Yet Jermaine was a far better singer and musician than she was. Talent is overrated. Without unwavering focus and determination, talent never amounts to much.
@@for-house-stark Out of all the examples of artists I mentioned, you chose the least talented one to prove your point. And well, the mistake was mine for mentioning it. Jermaine is a better singer than her, obviously. Sometimes ambition, determination is not enough to achieve success. As I was saying, there are artists and bands that were so underestimated that they didn't achieve success precisely because of the excess talent that was available at that time. Madonna, of all the great artists I told you about, she is an exception. In addition, people with less talent today are succeeding in music, since there are artists with little singing ability, who barely dance, others who can't play any instrument, all this happens because the big record companies are no longer looking for people With talent, there are many ways to make the final product, that is, the music, sound good thanks to the high level of production that we currently have. In Michael's time, there was too much talent and unfortunately, no matter how determined and talented you were, not everyone achieved greatness, it's a fact of life. Keep in mind one other thing, the way music was consumed in the '80s and '90s was very different. Not everyone could afford to buy every album by Michael, Prince, Queen, George Michael and company. People at that time had to carefully choose their favorite artists, and they always chose the most extraordinary and talented ones. I'm not saying it's a decisive factor, but it influences. Jermaine was talented, and he may not have the same amount of ambition that Michael did, the fact is that the magnitude of artists or talent out there at the time would have made it more difficult for him to achieve success if he did have the ambition.
@@robertj.batista I agree that back in the 80s and 90s, there was excess talent. So I take into consideration that the competition in the industry would make it extremely difficult for one to standout and compete with the giants of the market. Would Jermaine stand a chance? Yes, there's always a chance. Even if its a very little one. His own style may not have been particularly outstanding, but if his own sister, Janet, could succeed to the level she did, then so could Jermaine. She too, like Madonna, was no exceptional singer. She just worked with the right people who could produce great music and great videos, and she could perform like Madonna too and dance. She worked hard, and she's a woman. She never attained the same stratospheric, unimaginable levels of commercial success MJ had, but her career completely overshadows Jermaines regardless and nobody saw her coming. She was the 3rd most successful female artist of the 90s on the bbh100 charts. Jermaine could've achieved that much, commercial sales aside. He could've at least had great hits if he partnered with the likes of Jimmy jam & Terry Lewis like Janet did. Man, even milli vanilli had hits too before their careers tanked lmao. Jermaine was no exceptional force, but I still think he could have been on Janet's level at least. Maybe I'm wrong
I love Jermaine's voice. Prefer his tone and his hits. Their voices are different, and one should not have over shadowed the other. So much manipulation by the media. What a shock! The media is still corrupting those who lack critical thinking. Bless the Jackson brothers. They are all deserving and talented.
One should not have overshadowed the other? Lmao that is life and it is something you cannot control. Their are trees that are so much more taller than other trees, their are rivers more vast than other rivers, their are mountains much higher than other mountains. This is the way life goes. Of course one would overshadow the other. Even Janet overshadowed Jermaine lmao. He simply didn't have the ambitious drive MJ and Janet had
The Jackson family was very dysfunctional that is why they did not get along with each other and at one point disliked each other. The Jackson 5 had a love/hate relationships ( mostly dislike) i cant imagine what its like living with these ppl during MJs childhood. We really do not know what happens behind closed doors
Blood 🩸 is thicker then water . No matter what they are a family . But these is a fact , Jermaine is good but when they hit stardom , Jermaine didn’t really look at the fans the way mj looked at them . Meaning , there are some sacrifices you need to make to achieve such recognition from the whole world .
If there was some resentment btween them i think the peak was during the thriller era. It was MJ all over the place. I don't think a normal human/sibling wouldn't feel jealous specially If you are being overshadowed by your Younger brother. Pls MJ looked cocky as fvk during that period. I imagine How was the family encounters...
MJ had every right to be cocky. Everyone he told of his plans to sell unimaginable copies & take over the world with thriller pretty much laughed at him, including his brothers especially Jermaine. Hell, there's an interview here on RU-vid where Jackie literally said he told MJ "you are outta your mind" when MJ told him he would sell twenty million copies of thriller. Just TWENTY. Jackie laughed in his face and said he'd sell maybe 6M or 8M max! But he ended up selling 42M lmao and has since sold over 100M today. This interview happened in the 80s
@@for-house-stark Ofc he had! It must have been hard to keep his ego intact with all that hype surrounding him, specially after what he experienced for being so naive to the point of telling his goals before it happen (I would never). Not everyone is your friend or wants to see you doing better than them. Fortunately it surpassed his expectation. Good for him! Otherwise he took the risk of become the target of jokes in his inner circle. Many important names of History went thru similar experience of being ridiculed for sharing their "crazy" ideas.
@@elektriceyes_giza84 I don't even agree that MJ had that much ego. He was never that cocky. He was always modest and reserved. The most egotistical he ever looked was on stage performing, where he knew he was in charge and in complete control and he exhibited strong confidence. Outside the stage he wasn't that cocky
@@for-house-stark Thats only my point of view analyzing coldly as an outsider since i dont know them personally to know the real story, instead of the one they let us know. (unlike some fans who act as if they did and lived with him 24/7) If the story that he stole Jermaine's producers is true, i would also say he was pety. But that's how things work the business world. Pls, he wouldn't have reached the stardom, the level of success he's got, being modest, an angel,innocent. He was an ambitious and young business man in the entertainment and you have to have certain "traits" and priorities if u want to reach such goals in this industry. Only talent and charism wouldnt make it happen.
I don’t think this video gives all the detail I mean it misses a lot that happened between these two. I mean what about when jermaine was going around and saying that the thriller album would fail and that Michael was shooting to high. It didn’t even discuss the diss song or anything. I mean you have very surface facts. Isn’t your channel called “the detail”?? Give us the DETAILS lol. We def need a deeper dive in a part 2
