Fighting in Woods 

I was in this film. It was made in 1982 in Sennelager Germany. The film was made by No 2 Company and the Anti Tank Platoon from 2nd Bn Grenadier Guards based at Oxford Barracks in Munster.

When training films were made the troops were often issued trials kit to wear/use so that the film would not look dated too quick. Note the helmets have trials issue covers (without the loops of elastic on the cover). Another bit of trials kit in the film is the LAW 80 which was not issued till a long time after this.The film is dated 1982 and would have been produced prior to this date.

Worst things from exercises was finding all your dummy mines you had dug down. Even with the most perfect mine map, its still a bloody pain to find them all.

I'm an ex British Army Infantryman. Royal Green Jackets. When I was in basic training these sort of films were what I nodded off too after a hard days work. NBC, Anti Tank training and assault courses. Trying to put together 58 pattern webbing etc. Incredible to watch this stuff now.

Full version recently available. Title: Corps of Royal Engineers - Vintage Fighting in Woods VT.

Daddy was a Tanker back then. I was born at Fort Riley Kansas but Daddy got stationed there in Germany at Weisbaden. I lived in Germany for six years. It is fascinating to see what was going on during the Cold War. We had bug out bags packed in case we had to get to Rhein Mein in a hurry. Go Weisbaden Warriors!

No sorry I have a couple of more modern ones but I'm a bit reluctant to upload them, for fear of being taken outside and shot.

Your new mission in life is to find the ending of that video. This and the section attack are god damn epic.

So I wasnt the only army child whose dad brought home training videos to watch as adventure films. Lol good times. My anti drugs education was a film where a mortar team were firing and one of the mortar team was on drugs and ended up putting another round down the tube whilst the first had yet to clear the tube!

This is pretty much the same crap what we exercised in 2014 in finnish army. There are some things that seem really outdated, such as forward trenches. In finnish army we were never told To dig trenches, only foxhole. Theres also a manual how to dig a enlarged two Man foxholes that have a log and mud based roof that is supposed To protect from shrapnel, but I never saw one. Besides, it seems military experts expects conflict nowadays be So mobile there is no reason To dig in too deep. But heres a neat trick: theres a part on this video where guys are clear sticks and braches from ground To give MG a clear view. In finnish upkept forests theres not much braches laying around and most of the trees are pinetrees with branches reaching ground. We were told To cut away the very lowest of treebranches from pinetrees So when the enemy advances defenders laying down can see enemys feet but enemy cant see anyone. That was sly af and it even worked. Also because of the Woodland combat finnish army does have some strange and unique tricks we are proud of, for example we are taught how to dive down a certain way. Theres like 4 phases To dive To your stomach So that you are ready To open fire amazingly fast. The secret is To extend your weaker side hand forward and land on your weakhand side. For a month we were told To dive down until we got amazingly good at it. We were ready To open fire after a dive almost as fast as if we were standing up. The camouflage is a great part of finnish infantry pride too. Using leaves, grass and Moss we were able To camouflage ourselves ourselfs So good we had To be careful not to step on each other. Literally. These brits shown here have pretty damn good camo. Oh yeah. Theres also this tradition To never turn rotating clockwise. Always counter clockwise. This is supposedly due To some old marching orders. Not surprisingly No one followed that tradition unless in parade or marching.

Excellent. Just as good advice in 2019 as when filmed. Thanks for posting.

I did a few years of reserve infantry before I went reg force. Good times in the field, this sure brings back memories.

The United Kingdom's military when well fit, trained and finished, is second to none and the soldiers are the true personification of the professionalism.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! My dad used to bring this home (on VHS) for me to watch when I was 7 or 8. Mint.

I was trained as an infantry officer in the French army in the late 80s. I got the same training. Notably, the very last part brings back memories of the feelings we had when our instructors clearly told us about the rain of artillery we could expect as a first response, including chemical ammunition. And the landmines... how useful they are in such situations. I have never understood why western armies have relinquished them. These were rules of engagement. Not the one-hand-tied-in-the-back type we see in all these asymmetrical fights of today. Ah, and... around 10:50, I see a blackface... I am terribly triggered. Once I have recovered from the shock I will report this immediately!

That guy has absolutely no chainsaw control!! He is definitely from the city

Good god those Ruperts, digging up our forests and blowing up our trees... splendid chaps though

Amazing that the FV-432 APC was in this video from 1982 and it's still being used in 2018 (I think it has been upgraded to the 'Bulldog' version, but several hundred are still in service nearly 50 years later). Originally in service in the 1960's.

This must have been a training platoon, I don't think anyone has the new combat helmet at that time.

I always hate how fast they go over the battle plan. I can't write fast enough to keep up.

at this time 1982 the situation in occupied germany it was desperate if really the soviet troops from their part started an offensive against the western parts but the brits would fight like hell against the soviets

I sure remember those days with our Brit Bros!

The main lesson to be taken from this video is: It sucks to be 4 Platoon!

cheers for putting this vid up mate

ça c'est un des bons coté des anglo saxons, toujours des vidéos, films d'instruction concrets. Je crois que j'ai jamais vu ça en France dans n'importe quel domaine.

Ref: Battle Bowler - Thats the first issue of the helmet in this film - we did the First NECIC competition in 1983, and we were issued with it for the duration - we had to hand it back in, post the competition. In 88 when we received the normal issue, there were some changes - I remember the first one we were issued, had very poor ventilation, and if felt like our brains were boiling - still better than the "Tin Toby"

Quote. "So now, everything is ready. All we have to do is wait". Thank goodness no one ever showed up...

Not only are these guys wearing Mk6 helmets, but it looks like they have trials BCH boots, their unit must've been part of some trial or something.

@SPICYMOOCHOO Oooh technical question don't know what mark it was but it was a vast improvement over the old tin lid that was to all intent pretty much the same as we used in WW2. I believe with a few small changes it is the helmet in current issue

5:22 LOL MASSIVE wood piles in Germany lol. No Joke!

Please please please can some one upload the rest of this film.

I understand that the L1A1 SLR is outdated for modern combat philosophy, but there's a beauty in watching the British armed forces pre 1985 carrying that weapon about. Very nostalgic.

The Brits are through and professional, I've worked with them.

Youll notice the Rupert at 4:20 has deployed the Mk4 Dodgy Eyebrow to look scary, instead of the usual shite cam cream!

There used to be a 2 part video, I thought it was called "contact" following a Battalion digging in, does any one know where I can find this and pass it on to some recruits!

Ohh much more exciting than Australian ones of the same era. Although, where that digger is laying mines tsk tsk. In the Australian Army he'd have had his arse kicked laying his SLR down like that on the road, without setting the carrying handle to peep it out of the dirt. The arms were similar to ours, obviously not uniforms or webbing. We used alice gear bumbpack US water bottles and Aust made pouches that could hold 4 SLR mags each side, big enough to hold 30rd mags to, as we still used Brens as well here and there

All the mustachios.

Swift and bold 👊

Using Napalm in the Woods will eliminate the assets. Brutal but effective.

That section where they install cassette mines made the me do a double take lol. Forgot those were still legal back then.

Wow, thanks. Strangely familiar and still valid today.

"Right....move"...love the brits

Reassuring to see 2 Bn Grenadier Guards with standard-issue, 1980s "Porn Tashes" ;)

Splendid video!

they r prepared

8.44 Off Route Mine,god I hated those things,heavy as fuck to carry and fiddly as hell to get set up.

Claymores are fucking insane. 60 meters! That’s half a football field

We were trained to be a deterrence for the Ruski What is available NOW

(11:40 min.) was an BMP1! 3rd Worldwar broke out in the early 80`s, and went unnoticed!

Interesting documentary, and this would have been around the time of the Falkland Islands Campaign.

I actually saw this video I forget whether it was 60 minutes or some kind of special on the military

Go on The Grenadiers!

Has to be later than 1982. Because of the helmets and too many boot combat highs being worn. Also the turret on the 432 came out later i am sure than 1982.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the good old days...........

The helmet is the M76 with a DPM cover - the Mk 6 is distinguishable by its three-point harness. However, the M76 was only issued in theory to the Parachute Regiment. Why have the Grenadier Guards been issued with the M76?

back in the day, my dad was 2gg passed out and posted to munster in 81

Thought I read American somewhere in the title, first heard the accent, then saw the DPM and finally checked the title and description again when I saw the L1A1. lol my bad

Those where the days, though the Fulda cap with a massive Russia attack was and is a big concern

@9:09 well I don’t think they ever had to worry about their chainsaw blowing up😂 even with a Chain as dull as that one haha

Wow... watching all of this it would be a shame if the enemy didn't show up.

I believe, though I'm no expert, that this would be the Mk.V, which superseded the Mk.IV "Turtle Shell" steel helmet (which is on display, I think, in the "Section Fire and Manoeuvre" series of videos), which was an update of the late-WW2-era Mk.III original "Turtle Shell" steel helmet, which replaced the WW2 Mk.II "Brodie" helmet, which itself was a slightly improved Mk.I "Brodie" of WW1 service. If I recall correctly (not sure), the Mk.V has been replaced by the Mk.VI "Battle Bowler" helmet.

Section order are so samey: always kill the enemy. A Monty Python absurdist unit would have fun with verbs: tickle, amuse, tease, shag...

Wow thank you for the upload

At 3:25 is what I think is an FV432 APC with a turret that I've never seen before. I'm not sure what the MG is but it seems like an L4 Bren LMG (7.62mm not the original 0.303).

Pity about the end bit being missing. Hopefully it can be found & posted someday, though.

A bit of the old _'FIWAF'!_ _Have you got 'I can't answer that question' (starring 'Jim Macdonald') ?_ I'd really like to see that one again.

"...here the terrain can be made to work against an aggressor, and in favour of determined defenders..." Hmmm, someone else had that idea, twice, in the 40s. Seemed to work the other way around if I recall correctly. LOL.

He sounds like a Budget version of "Richard Burton".

those eyebrows though... is he commander by day chonga at night? WTF??

Just wondering: why do they have the "Boots, Combat, High" already? After all this 1982 and I would expect them to wear the old DMS ankle boots with puttees. If I am not mistaken the high combat boots were only brought in after the Falklands War because the DMS boots had not been up to the job.

I need that shovel!!!!!!.

I don't think that's Wiltshire is it, but looks like Canada? Even then I think chainsawing trees down and so on was a bit restrictive on old Barton Stacy. :)

Thanks!

Not a complete one I'm afraid it just ended for some reason, still waiting for someone to put the end on here.

A bit of wood & earth wouldn't have been a lot of use as top cover against Katyusha barrages, but the trees would have given good protection forcing them to infil their infantry to do the job with heavy losses & slow down their advance

At 2:43 - training for stealing lawns by the looks. Question: is that actually the best way to do it or are they doing it that way so they can put it back again afterwards - the Germans being so keen on preserving their woodlands and all.

saya tak sabar latihan tempur macam ini huh minggu depan berjumpa krusus ini

OMG 9:22 this aladdin is worth MONEY !!!!

Cheap ubiquitous drones, have changed a lot of these effective tactics. Per: the recent Azerbaijan and Armenian war. Such accurate artillery, shells falling within the trenches over, and over. Amazing, and terrible at once. ☀️😎☀️🇺🇸

Do you have any more videos like this ? particularly recce or fieldcraft? Cheers

Question. Why were the section commanders SGT’s????

Coy Comd's Orders. Well I remember it.

No doubt the Germans themselves pioneered and used these tactics during the defence of the fatherland in ww2, these tactics have been built upon and adopted by most modern armies, during ww2 the Wehrmacht were ahead of their time in many respects.

Watch out for Bear shit.. Bears and Green Jackets shit in the woods.

Added to my watch later list. :)

Doesn't every man jack get issued LAW 94 at battalion level, been over 20 years since in the infantry but older NCO's who were stationed in Berlin during cold war stated so. Was that for every infantry battalion west of the iron curtain on SOP'S?

FN Fal legendary

Sappers laying c wire and explosives. Essayons

great vid wish we could find the ending or even the name of it to start

Did the “Enemy” ever come then? An ex Sapper who served in Germany

TBH I came in part to see what's the deal with mr eyebrows here

WTF was that Soviet towed gun at 12:25? I remember those from Germany.

Where the heck is Fighting in Woods Part Deux???

Oooooo- FV432 Peak Turret....Wasn't that just in Berlin?

Bloody hell...who won?

Are they using fin fals?

6:43 Is that a G3? Didn't know Brits used em'.

Is this monty python?

3 different shirts in 1 minute

do you have a copy of the video?