Film Theory: Dear DC, I Fixed Your Universe… AGAIN! (DC Universe)

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I may not be a mortician, Loyal Theorists, but I can declare that the DC Universe is DEAD. At least the iteration with Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, Aquaman, and the rest of the Justice League. DC has been struggling to make its movie franchise work for years, but I finally found a way to fix it! And I’ll even share my reaction to James Gunn’s new DC slate of Gods and Monsters. You’ll have to watch to see if I think it will FAIL or succeed...
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@elizabethhearts3401 Год назад

The DCAU was such a lesson in animated storytelling perfection.

@EnterZelda2007 Год назад

Flashpoint paradox was near perfect

@azenar1894 Год назад

@@EnterZelda2007 is perfect*

@FizboBros Год назад

Flashpoint to Justice League Dark 2, I loved them all

@puterboy2 Год назад

@@EnterZelda2007 Except they didn’t have Barry finding out Thawne killed his mom.

@skibididobdobdobyesyes Год назад

So was Man of Steel, BvS: Ultimate Edition, and ZSJL. If only they’d followed through with his plan..

@lucasnogueira9215 Год назад

As soon as this man said “the key to solving all of it…cartoons” I leaped out of my chair and screamed yes. Finally someone understands

@rondorock2563 Год назад

The animated series were very pivotal for me becoming a fan of superhero adaptations. In general, the animated content was a treasure, it just went so far over the heads of Hollywood back then it seemed like they really didn't get it. The talent for writing good stories was there instead they just gave animation the brush off entirely thinking it was just for kids, but the older fans who were watching the cartoons at the time just knew that their medium being mostly ignored in the live-action films was a big mistake.

@lucasnogueira9215 Год назад

@@rondorock2563 absolutely 🙌🙌, the Story telling in those early animated shows was elite. Justice league was able to tell stories about obscure characters and made it feel natural. Those shows are the reason I love super heroes. Without them I don’t think I’d be as big of fan as I am.

@Electronica27 Год назад

As much as I love cartoons, I think it was more about how DC literally used this successful blueprint, but didn't apply it to live action, thinking it worked differently. I bet people in Warner just doesn't respect those handling the cartoons to listen to their advice.

@lucasnogueira9215 Год назад

@@Electronica27 your completely right I’m saying that the reason those cartoons were so great was because of the universe structure they created and also the story telling. Which was largely created by the structure.

@nnai_na3740 Год назад

Yessss someone gets it!!! The animated universe was epic ❤❤❤

@Pseudomonis Год назад

Shows like Batman, Superman, Static Shock, Ben 10 Alien Force, Teen Titans, Young Justice and Generator Rex were some of the best shows of all time. The fact they weren't just silly cartoons, but instead had deep, mature and gripping story arcs, made them so enthralling.

@tvgr8218 Год назад

man those shows were my childhood

@Chaotic_by_Choice Год назад

Ben 10 is the goat

@alexandergonyea4642 Год назад

Dude, you just spoke to me on a spiritual level. I grew up with nearly all of those shows, and they still hold such a huge spot in my heart.

@fishertheadore6095 Год назад

Young Justice was Good until it got gey and weird.

@credittome2732 Год назад

What happened to Adventure Time?

@TranDLe-yb3xr Год назад

Literally when Matt mentioned cartoons and showed the iconic heroes that I GREW UP WITH, I celebrated as if we won a war. FINALLY, someone understands and is willing to make their voice heard! These cartoons (Justice League, Justice League Unlimited; movies like Justice League: War and Justice League: Dark; these movies PROPELLED me into becoming a DC fan. I grew up with that version of DC, and it would literally mean everything to relive those days

@undeadtrooper13 Год назад

I love that Mat brought up the witcher mess even briefly. Glad to know that they understand the writers were in the wrong for changing the material so much

@nieznajomy4398 Год назад

I agree even if I don't think Henry left because of those reasons (main being money).

@undeadtrooper13 Год назад

@@nieznajomy4398 oh I absolutely don't believe it was because of money, he wanted to give the fans a proper adaptation of the witcher books, not a hodgepodge of witcher content in a poorly written mess

@nieznajomy4398 Год назад

@@undeadtrooper13 So that's why he was/is still in season 3? As fan of books I didn't even finished second season so if he really cared he would left franchise long time ago or didn't even played, I wasn't even big fan of season 1 also (mostly because of changes). Also for season 1 he got 800k$ per episode, for S2 he got even more 1m$ per episode which is more than GoT cast was earning and the end of series. So we can easily imagine for season 3 he earned even more. So there is possibility during negotiations for season 4 he wanted so much money Netflix didn't/couldn't pay (I don't judge him for wanting more) and Liam Hemsworth is much much cheaper actor. So during (or before) season 4 "negotiations" very likely Amazon contacted Henry and offered him much better deal (lead actor + producer) and Amazon can literally afford any price. Additionally as producer he has more control under production (casting etc) so taking this deal was no brainer + he was warhammer fan longer than witcher. And in the end contracts can't be done that fast aspecialy for "actor + producer", so Henry and Amazon definitely were talking months in advance before he officially left The Witcher.

@deirenne Год назад

@@nieznajomy4398 he's so rich that money is basically meaningless at this point, but he's also huge huge nerd, gamer and actual lover of both Sapkowski's books and CD Project's games, so if I were to bet on it, I'd give all my money on "They are fucking up with the story and I'm the only person that cares about that", not the paycheck.

@undeadtrooper13 Год назад

@@nieznajomy4398 Cavill would have happily done 7 seasons of the show, but the writers went so far off track with season 2, and I can only imagine how bad it'll be with season 3. Cavill was dedicated to doing the witcher justice in a proper tv adaptation, the writers wouldn't have it and Cavill repeatedly tried to have things changed through out season 2, roach died and the writers were gonna try to make it funny in some way, but Cavill fought for it to be changed to something a bit more somber which is what we got. Cavill would've been happy to take a pay cut as long as the writers stuck to the books, but they didn't, so Cavill is out now, and hopefully his warhammer project goes well while the witcher series crashes and burns for losing it's star because they couldn't stick to an already established story.

@reirei135 Год назад

RIP Kevin Conroy. I grew up with the entire DCAU because my dad grew up with it. I could write several essays on why they are the best versions of the storys told, and how they did such a great job, but it'd be easier to tell you to go watch them yourself. It's all a work of art

@dafilmqueen556 Год назад

I will never forgive myself for not knowing Kevin Conroy up until 3 months before his death. I mean, I watch cartoons that are rated PG and under, I had no excuse for nothing giving BTAS a go before. Now that I know, I want to make sure my dream Batfamily series pays him tribute in the best way possible, a tribute that honors his legacy by uniting everyone. He wasn't just A Batman, he was THE Batman, but he wasn't alone. He didn't have to be. Kevin Conroy may be gone, but his legacy as THE Batman is forever ingrained in our memory, and we must do our best to honor him together. Repeat after me: we are Vengeance, we are the Knight, WE..ARE ALL..BATMAN....

@OfficialTheFilmTheorists Год назад

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@reirei135 Год назад

@@dafilmqueen556 have you posted your batfamily series anywhere? I'd love to give it a look!

@reirei135 Год назад

@Dave Miller Lego Batman was played by Will Arnett

@ninawatchesstuff Год назад

The DCAU was such a gift. I loved those shows growing up. They still hold up pretty well even twenty-thirty years later. It should not be difficult to create a viable live-action film franchise with these characters.

@Audentior_Ito Год назад

If WB were smart, they would make a mainstream animated feature-film universe. Spiderverse succeeded for Sony & it would distinguish them from the failing MCU.

@danso5659 Год назад

haha it hasn't been twenty years since....oh. oh no.

@jessm8734 Год назад

I’m a DC purist at all costs and tend to be a bit of a snob when it comes to others’ opinions on DC honestly, but Matt has NAILED IT HERE! Never have I heard anyone understand DC better and have a better plan for actually making it successful!

@shanekeenaNYC Год назад

DC feels like that residential neighborhood that had a few more phases planned that never got built.

@freemakerthings4518 Год назад

I’m glad that James Gunn is gonna redeem DC. Even though Shazam 2 is off to a bumpy yet promising start, it looks like we are onto something

@Byronic19134 Год назад

@@freemakerthings4518 Gunn is gonna butcher DC.

@freemakerthings4518 Год назад

@@Byronic19134 you sure? tell me why.

@rastyplayzzofficial 3 дня назад

@@shanekeenaNYC shazam 2 is not the beginning aquaman and the lost kingdom is the ending of the dceu and creature commandos show coming out this year is the beginning of the dcu

@sophiesheppard6719 Год назад

Literally my childhood 😭 my dad and I used to watch the animated series when I was little and I recently revisited it and omg the writing is so good. The question, huntress, hawk girl and green arrow became some of my most favourite characters

@stevek4070 Год назад

Those cartoons were so great! The contrast between Superman/Metropolis and Batman/Gotham was incredible. They also made me think that Metropolis was West Coast while Gotham was East with Central City hiding around Kansas City. It kept those main heavy hitters apart and probably confused a large audience when the DCEU had Gotham and Metropolis literally within sight of each other. AND THEN somehow Superman never ventured into Gotham even though his powers make him a global persona and Batman would already have figured out Sup's identity. B vs S was rough but I grew to like the Snyder cut. Hopefully when Darkseid shows his rebooted face he looks more menacing than the gray grampa look.

@Kathywake23 Год назад

Wuuuttt??? I always thought Metropolis and Gotham were like Chicago and New York. Or like New Jersey and New York.

@shadowscp1391 Год назад

LMFAO "GREY GRAMPA LOOK" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286 Год назад

every good guy fight crime and evil everywhere

@KasLynAudio Год назад

I absolutely loved Static Shock and Batman Beyond, those were two of the best of the time. I really hope Static makes the big screen at some point.

@Insertia_Nameia Год назад

I would love that. Static Shock was one of my favorites.

@captianbacon Год назад

Batamn beyond is one of the greatest pieces of animation coming out ever.

@Sir_Psych Год назад

I loved when they brought back an older version of Static. It was such a surprise, I loved it.

@lazylurkerbro9855 Год назад

I would go rabid for a Static Shock movie, I was so hyped every time he popped up even just in this video lol

@bloody4558 Год назад

There's been rumors of Warner having an interest on the character for more than 4 years already. We may yet see an adaptation of him.

@ari-dynamicarchive Год назад

"Respect the source material" is something I've been pushing for, and I'm sure others do too. I can't not think of a series getting an adaptation in which the creators just simply DGAF with what they were given to produce, and then yell at the fans as if it's the fans fault for not supporting their "vision".

@dafilmqueen556 Год назад

One question though: is it okay to rewrite a character's origin if it feels off? What if a character is beloved to you, but you feel that the story is terrible? That's how I feel I would write obscure characters: the character is great, the potential is there, but the story is either outdated or doesn't ring true to the character's core values and personality, so it's best to either axe them completely or rewrite their story in a way that makes sense and lives up to the themes of the character. Why not?

@freemakerthings4518 Год назад

@@dafilmqueen556 I mean, they can, if they retain some elements of the original story: like Shang-Chi, they retained some elements while also changing some like his father to avoid any racial stereotypes from the comics.

@shade08538 Год назад

@@dafilmqueen556 You can always have your own interpretation of a character, but there’s one thing you always have to keep in mind: “What makes this character so beloved? What’s that fundamental trait that gave them such fame? Whats makes that character themself?”

@ked49 Год назад

@@dafilmqueen556if it unimportant yeah. If it is Batman or Spider-Man no

@Ykibmh 10 месяцев назад

From what I heard, that's what happened to Percy Jackson - the movies were almost completely different from the books (the characters were in their late teens instead of 12, which made kids who were the main audience for the books uninterested and the teens weren't interested since it was based on a kid's book). To some extent, Harry Potter too, there were so many details and little subplots in the books that weren't in the movie, and the movies completely wrecked Ron

@xpreame3406 Год назад

Respect to Matt for going forwards in time to give even better feedback on the new DCU

@yannaingtun3675 Год назад

these bots for real

@Starcrash6984 Год назад

Yeah... but... why did he feel the need to claim that James Gunn was following his plan? Half of those were really shoehorned -- Point #1 in which even he admitted that the 10 movies included lots of smaller, obscure characters and it's _starting with_ Gods and Monsters, and Point #4 in which all of these movies have been announced up front isn't really "taking his time" -- and James Gunn clearly didn't follow Point #5 but got no "red X" on the list for that instead of the "Green check" he gave every other item. I also enjoyed the fact that he kept evaluating each point, but I wish he'd done it with less bias. But I think he wanted to be able to say "I told you so" from the future -- that's hard to say if James Gunn only partly follows the list, neither embracing it or nor rejecting it.

@mictrill2316 Год назад

No, I didn’t math pet. Also my favorite superhero is Batman or a green lantern and I’m already subscribed

@connorgarvin2056 Год назад

ive never understood why these cinematic universe are so difficult to keep in line, like if a character has a completely different tone simply dont put them in, all it takes is a handy little nod or reference just to show theyre stories are happening concurrently then when the time is right pull them all together, its all you really have to do, early marvel did it and it worked perfectly, the one exception i have to this is the young justice, they somehow managed to effortlessly build the whole dc universe together so seamlessly, almost every character you see is a comic book accurate character and they never really feel shoehorned in, its as if youre actually in that world, characters arent just coming out of the woodworks like the newer marvel is kind of doing( so many of marvels new stories just make me sit there and think "where were u during endgame, couldve used your help mate") they even went the direction of things like the superhero trafficking storyline which just further solidified that this is just a world of superhumans

@Aquiliqex Год назад

When Matpat talks about the Guantlet at 17:35, it being a fake of a quantlet that hadn't existed yet still makes sense, it was in Odin's private vault and Odin is known for being a guy who can see into the future (which in Norse mythos is to try and prevent ragnorok) so Odin, thinking it was cool, had a fake made before the real thing existed, probably an ego thing

@dafilmqueen556 Год назад

Lol, and Hela recognized it as fake 🤣

@grumpyrock Год назад

We are also never told when exactly the gauntlet had been made. It could have been made years ago but Thanos did not know where the stones were yet.

@AllTerrainTurkey9974 Год назад

More likely is the possibility that Thanos had Eitri the dwarf copy an ancient design that had been used to harness the stones before.

@Bol_Sadguy. Год назад

Or maybe a profecy or a legend

@domokilla9944 Год назад

Quit making up excuses for lack of creativity...

@bluestreaker9242 Год назад

Speaking as someone who loves to write, this is honestly really good advice you're giving out. I know a great many people might think it SOUNDS dumb to not have a plan (if the fan reception to the New Star Wars Trilogy is any indication), but, honestly, not having a plan doesn't restrict you creatively; I do still stress the importance of good note-taking, but basically just don't overthink how your story is gonna go: it frees up room to do what you want, when you want, how you want, where you want, why you want with your characters and the world they're in. I'm not a professional writer, though, so take my advice with a grain of salt. ;)

@Saphia_ Год назад

I find that that's true with so many creative professions. In everything that has editing in its process like stories and design, for example, it's so important to know the basic outline of what will happen but one, figure out the details as we go and two, never be afraid to try something new.

@steelhert4363 Год назад

Now that is an advice I wish I had. I've been working on a new book for a while now, and in my mind I had completely mapped out the story despite knowing that I tend to bring good ideas when I go with the flow. But this video and your comment reminded me that I don't need to map out my world that extensively. Thank you for that.

@doro626 Год назад

I have always been a fan of the story bible. That way you have liberty to be creative, but you dont go against characters basic personalities. i will also say, when it comes to a franchise as large as Star Wars, I am very surprised that they didnt have it all planned out to the decimal point. I guess some people thought the property was too big to fail.

@bluestreaker9242 Год назад

@@doro626 Yeah, that's a solid suggestion, yeah. A lot of famed authors swear by the story bible. I recall reading somewhere that gave this gem of advice: "planning out the story bible should not be more important than simply writing the story". Basically what I've been saying: don't overthink things, just roll with it. Keep things consistent, absolutely, but don't overthink things. You don't want to back yourself in to a creative corner and give up on the project because keeping the momentum going is too daunting a task. :/ Funny that, Star Wars was plagued with problems since the beginning; it's amazing this single film got a franchise, and even got off the ground, on account of how much went wrong even before filming started. For instance, George Lucas was very much an idea man, but he wasn't much of a writer, so he got the help of a ghostwriter to weave his ideas together: Alan Dean Foster. Fun fact, in an interview, he was asked if he ever felt bitter about George Lucas taking all the credit, to which he responded "not at all": I won't lie, I respect that, as I feel most people would be.

@sihly_me9386 Год назад

I'm glad that this is the advice that Mat mentions when it comes to mapping out a story larger than a single movie, book or whatever because I'm currently going through this "note-taking", "go with the flow", "not restricting creativity" process with my OCs. I have them in my head, I know I'd like them to crossover in some way (I have a very heavily influenced superhero comic book crossover type universe, like Marvel), I have the basics for the universe they live in, but stuff like they're origin stories, character arcs, how exactly they'll crossover, or what type of media I'll introduce them in is up in the air but still being thought of in the back of my head, and I can come up with may different iterations of each of those aspects I've mentioned and go with it. Since, I've had these characters and this universe for over 2 years now, I've gotten used to feeling free to change characters names, which is really something I'd usually not be comfortable with (also a good 99% of my OCs don't have names, so as I develop them more I'll be to narrow down a name that actually makes sense for each of them).

@Rexyhowrid Год назад

Who else really likes future MatPat the fact that he was willing to add that “character” shows that these channels are very flexible and quite honestly shows determination unlike a lot of lazy concentrators. Love you guys keep up the good work.🤩

@Narra0002 Год назад

Yep

@acedias12 Год назад

"concentrators"?

@micahbirdlover8152 Год назад

@OfficialFilm_Theorists. yeah new theory 😊

@samiai8905 Год назад

I've been saying that the DCEU should've followed the DCAU ever since Batman vs Superman and its insane how it seems so obvious to follow and use as a general outline for all the generations yet they just mashed things together. It's infuriating how easy it was

@dan_loup Год назад

Going back to watch the cartoons is something they did quite a few times. at least with batman. Several of the best batman ideas ever had came from the batman cartoon.

@woaddragon Год назад

Actually a literal ton of stuff came from the cartoon that made it to the official lore. The biggest one Harley Quinn

@BrandonNielsen87 Год назад

Man of Steel definitely took some inspirations from the 90’s Superman cartoon series.

@Cookie12670 Год назад

Your description of Superman is exactly how I feel about the character. Let’s hope they get an actor who can bring the type of charisma Christopher Reeve had. I’d love a smart, hopeful and empathetic man of steel.

@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 Год назад

You're going to smash your forehead into your keyboard when you find out who they cast.

@champ1159 Год назад

@@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 Who did they cast?

@kwayneboy1524 Год назад

@@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 who?

@Unqualifiedmedicalperson Год назад

They need to get someone who doesn’t just look like Superman, but can also play Clark Kent properly. That was the problem with Cavill.

@dangerfly Год назад

@@Unqualifiedmedicalperson What was wrong with Cavill's Kent, he doesn't act like a goofball from the 80's?

@adityanadgir3769 Год назад

Let's hope they take your advice this time, Matpat.

@J4nT3mpl4r Год назад

You know they won't, because giving the fans what they want is frowned upon in Hollywood these days.

@skandosh9025 Год назад

@@J4nT3mpl4r they are literally already following 4 out of 5 points, wtf are high on ?

@powerjolt7215 Год назад

@@skandosh9025 True. Other guy still has a point tho. Yes they are following these points to produce better movies, but that's mostly for the bucks

@numberjuan469 Год назад

take the advice of a pretentious youtuber? nah

@herloss448 Год назад

@@numberjuan469 hack snyder lover is pressed

@thekidxicor1273 Год назад

I’ve been getting through the DCAU for the past year or two now and I love the pacing the cameos the way they do events and characters it’s so amazing to see how 20-30 years ago they had could make such awesome meaningful pieces of art that connect in such intricate ways

@cadora4777 Год назад

I love how much work matpat puts into his videos. The video must have been finished already but instead of just posting it as it is, he writes an other script just so he can summarize all information for the audience to watch as a whole. Thank you so much for the efford.

@Kitsu-vk3of Год назад

Not just MatPat but the whole team behind Game Theory

@cadora4777 Год назад

@@Kitsu-vk3of True

@mr.moviemafia Год назад

Here is more optimistic perspective on the situation. I was initially hesitant but I honestly think this is a pretty sick slate! I love that James Gunn goes out of his way to give massive credit to the comics that inspired his stories, something not many creatives do. He also has a nice balance of big-hitting well-knowns and unknowns who haven’t been adapted to death, are ripe with potential, and deserve more attention. Overall, James Gunn’s announced projects se pretty cool and I can't wait to see these characters come to life!

@boxtupos7718 Год назад

I mean Zack Snyder did kind of give credit as well like pointing out Frank Miller; But I don't know how he read it. He literally used it as a basis to point out why his Batman kills, but in that same comic Batman literally breaks a gun in half and calls it a coward's weapon. But him saying something like "Tom King's run on Supergirl was my favorite comicbook last year", really gives off the vibes that he does love and read comics.

@tristenbailey8442 Год назад

Fr. I still struggle to understand the hate towards Gunn and his plans for the DCU, considering that what Gunn is capable of works heavy wonders.

@neavetheartist Год назад

Optimism always wins, unless life sucks, bad

@xopasstheaux6617 Год назад

Let's hope he doesn't hire the wrong people tho

@jaydenjones1374 Год назад

James Gunns' announcement wasn't random. He reminded people almost every day that the announcement would be in January

@JakeGottfriedStudios Год назад

I guess it was just never concrete when in January

@crablord7934 Год назад

I disagree with the point on the most memorable part of The Mummy reboot. It was obviously Tom Cruise's gigantic dump truck.

@AmelityshTV Год назад

Matpat HAS to be payed by DC at this point. It's unfair for them not to this far in 😂

@osmosisjones4912 Год назад

How come other people can spam

@scientist23wannabe_23 Год назад

I liked the man of steel

@szops9285 Год назад

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@thescarecrow897 Год назад

yikes pfp

@ACE112ACE112 Год назад

paid

@oklaclarinet Год назад

The whole "liking the source material" angle is why I was initially suspicious of Star Trek (2009), and my fears proved true. A few days before the movie came out, I saw an interview where J.J. Abrams said he never really liked the original Star Trek, as it was "too cerebral" for him, and that he was more of a Star Wars fan. It was then that I knew we were in trouble.

@Byronic19134 Год назад

The Russo brothers infamously don't like or read comics but made Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame.

@theirongiants Год назад

To be fair no one likes the Original Star Trek Motion Picture. The movies only got better from The Wrath of Khan

@moosery Год назад

@@Byronic19134 probably had enough disney money around them to pay people to read them for them to get "it" right

@LittleFighter2005 Год назад

I actually think a real gauntlet was in Odin's power, but his plan came to a abruptly halt because he realized he will have to sacrifice his daughter for the soul stone. His daughter was disconcerted about the sudden change of heart right before they reach their goal and so she revealed against him without ever realizing his reason.

@nicolasmallard1205 Год назад

Mat, there is another animated universe that is super interconnected that would also make for a good road map. It’s called Young Justice which even James Gunn name dropped when he was talking about his plan

@aneru9396 Год назад

Agreed! Young Justice Feels like a proper continuation or spiritual successor to the 2000s Animated Series. Also: Love me some Bowhunter Security!

@NameUnknownz Год назад

That show went downhill pretty fast imo, not as fast as a cw show does but still

@Hiro-rx8yb Год назад

@@NameUnknownz wym the show is still good season 4 was good season 3 war alright the rest is awesome

@rosestar1324 Год назад

Yeah but hopefully he doesn't follow everything young justice did cuz they fell from their rank super fast

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@theincrediblemrE Год назад

The dc animated film universe also has some interesting points that would make a great comeback for the live action versions. Like the flashpoint paradox and justice league dark, there is a lot of potential that those films have, and a lot more lore that may be hidden between the lines. Matt I think this would also be a pretty decent topic for a video as well and it would really shed some light on those movies too

@honeymonkey1670 11 месяцев назад

yeah! Justice League Dark was a really good mini-franchise that I wish had led to something with their animated DC movies.

@SteveRudzinski Год назад

I am blown away that you can explain the plots and themes of Man of Steel and BvS exactly while missing that is what the movies were about. The biggest points of those two films were literally an exploration of the trolley problem and the consequences of that being explored, which is what you said you wanted here. It's practically a genre now where people on the internet say they dont like the story Snyder told, explain exactly what they want, and it's just exactly what Snyder already did.

@samwellick1706 Год назад

Lol true

@Lyddy-Draws Год назад

Love that Mat briefly mentioned the Velma mess

@PirateOfGermany Год назад

Ever so briefly mentioning that fucking DUMPSTER FIRE

@PirateOfGermany Год назад

@SGN yes

@darksnakenerdmaster Год назад

As a writer, I completely understand the uncertainty. I have one project with eight seperate story arcs that I've dreampt up over the course of three years and want to write eventually. You want to know where you're aiming but have the flexibility to redirect plots and character arcs as they develop naturally over time. You can guide a kid onto a career track, but there's no guarantee they'll take to it.

@Bambi_but_cat_version Год назад

As a young kid who started writing in January my idea for the story is not set in stone yet. I have the main plot and the main characters but not an antagonist yet. Maybe just an idea for an antagonist but i dont really know if it will work out yet. But im getting of track here, do you have any advice for me?

@darksnakenerdmaster Год назад

@@Bambi_but_cat_version Write a scenario with the cast you have and see how they play off each other. Even if you never publish it, you will have a better understanding at the end. Some stories don't need an antagonist.

@ItsBeePOfficial Год назад

i do wish they made a great static shock version i grew up with that, and love the story he relates too

@Insertia_Nameia Год назад

I LOVED Static Shock as a kid. He was one of my favorite animated superheroes way back when.

@ItsBeePOfficial Год назад

@@Insertia_Nameia me too! He was a fun character after we're bored with the adult kne, but also having spiderman as the only fun option

@orientmaple7254 Год назад

I know we all have confidence in James Gunn vision but can we all admit that the majority of his movie and TV show lineup almost makes no sense

@MegaloTnt Год назад

9:10 Have you tried.. The square hole?

@honeymonkey1670 11 месяцев назад

also young justice was SUCH a good show that was part of the DCAU. it's been put on the back burner recently, but they were setting up a Jason Todd comeback and a Supergirl intro and I was so excited for it

@EditDeath Год назад

Just hearing that one of the series ideas is titled Waller has me excited. Amanda Waller is constantly seen as an antagonist to overcome in the Suicide Squad films (both live action and animated), but the drawback is that her character isn't fleshed out in favor of whoever is on the team this time. As the only character guaranteed to be present in the franchise every time, I like the idea that she can finally be the focus, maybe with a rotating cast of villains under her command. Also gives DC a chance to float villains to the audience and see who might be worth a film down the line.

@zachscarbrough2727 Год назад

Oh My God. That is a PERFECT setup for spinoff movies/tv series!

@EditDeath Год назад

@@zachscarbrough2727 Right? It's both a testing ground and a potential launch point

@littlecuddlefish Год назад

I remember LOVING Static Shock as a kid, I would love to see it made into something bigger!

@VCityglobal Год назад

The DC animated series made my childhood. It was pure storytelling, no preaching, no agendas, nothing. It was good stories and thematic sagas that captured the essence of each main character.

@lexus87 Год назад

I just want to see a Robin and eventually a Jason Todd storyline

@Lewismaximus29 Год назад

Watch titans

@hegluj6796 Год назад

@@Lewismaximus29 I’d rather not see anything tbh. Titans is a horrible adaptation

@Nova_Stuff Год назад

Been waiting for more Jason Todd representation

@TheBudakSkema Год назад

yeah same I want to see the outlaw

@Lewismaximus29 Год назад

@@hegluj6796 you are gonna die alone

@psAndrew Год назад

6:41 man but that’s what Zack did with MoS and BvS

@aliali-ce3yf Год назад

6:42 - that was a big point of Man Of Steel. also, superman has killed before. plus how else could he have avoided the fight with zod? zod was going to destroy the world, superman had to stop him. the city damage was collateral its like people didn't watch the movie

@masterpink6963 Год назад

The fact that booster gold is getting a movie soon is hilarious and I love it

@kingvidster5637 Год назад

He is getting a show, which might be better as it will give us more time to see the character get fleshed out.

@masterpink6963 Год назад

@@kingvidster5637 sweet

@richiesantana4576 Год назад

Seeing when all of these DC animated shows came out explains why my childhood was so good in terms of DC content

@Caliber918 Год назад

I’m not sure I can just let that very brief what seemed like Smallville slander go, I don’t remember many details but Smallville was an important part of my early childhood, MatPat sir

@itazuranakisu Год назад

I felt the chemistry between Clark - Lex and Clark - Lois was really good. Erica is actually my favorite Lois too. I would’ve loved if it had came out years later with more updated cgi but overall I like rewatching it from time to time.

@theunknownsamurai7426 Год назад

Superman Legacy and Batman's brave and the bold scare me. I have a feeling that these two movies will be more about their families rather than Batman and Superman. Look what they did with Ant-Man quantum mania, Ant-Man was reduced to a supporting role.

@Just_Some_Gal Год назад

Matpat's probably the only guy who can get me to watch a full 20 minute video about something I've never watched

@MrPingn Год назад

6:25 Well said, I didn't mind that Superman killed Zod or large chunks of the city were destroyed. It's that they didn't delve into that enough. That should carry some serious trauma. Also well said about making sure the story fits the character. I've seen far too many people who really don't want to be working on these projects. They'd rather be telling other stories. So they change it to whatever they'd really like to be working on.

@SalKhayer Год назад

I actually respect the fact that MatPat didn't toss out the effort and capital put into this video, and just adapted it to shift with the news, making the video more of a compare/contrast prediction video instead

@crypticechoes9175 Год назад

1:15 THANK YOU, Somebody FINALLY SAID IT. The Joker was just NOT necessary to The Batman. That should've either been Hush, Scarecrow, or Freeze, all of which fit into the Narrative of being a Hero instead of a Fear. Hush would make him question if he's even cut out to be a Hero, Scarecrow would show the effectiveness of Fear, and fills the Void Batman Left, Freeze would leave Batman in a Dilemma, what makes him a Hero? Taking down Freeze, or Saving him and Nora? All of which, work better than "HAHA Clown guy makes SALES!" Like, they could've at LEAST used Joaquin Pheonix's Joker, but instead, we got yet another one.

@GiannisAntetokounpo123 Год назад

5:09 I went on that ride in Disney world, one of the coolest rides rides in Disney’s history like a better space mountain…

@cleverusername8319 Год назад

15:21 Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely (sole writersof the entire Cap trilogy as well as Infinity War and Endgame) actually said this exact thing in an interview. They said something about how if anybody behind the scenes knew what would happen ten movies down the line, then the audience would too and the movies leading up would feel like setup or check boxes instead of their own enjoyable movies

@Lord-V15 Год назад

I don't like James Gunn. I never did.

@MattKirk007 Год назад

I’ve been rewatching the entire DCAU recently. It’s one of the best things from my childhood and once you make it to Justice league it perfected.

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@roachasaurus2020 Год назад

Marvel has never done Hulk justice. Not taking care of the heaviest of hitters

@XYZip1 Год назад

This is what makes One Piece have such good world building. Oda definitely has the story planned out, but still leaves plenty of room to make the changes he wants

@spoonbendingspacemonkey Год назад

I agree 💯% my husband and I keep asking why DC doesn't adapt some of its animation to live action. The DCAU is amazing!

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@shakedmar9804 Год назад

"I'm Vengeance" - Batman

@superjack0814 Год назад

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@Holyluckdan Год назад

That one sentence in the one minute mark is the exact reason why I don't watch dc. If they can't keep their continuity straight I have no reason to give them a second of my attention. I don't even watch flash because it makes me feel like I'm losing braincells

@TCantwell Год назад

Point #5 is something anyone who has DM a DnD game has to know. You plan to far ahead, but you know your players will always find something diferent to do and you will be scrambring to improvice the new story when your rogue decided to put his portable hole into his bag of holding...

@attakrus Год назад

I’m so glad MatPat acknowledged the differences between Marvel movies and other superhero movies, they make a superhero not seem like a superhero movie.

@High_Figure Год назад

@@OfficialTheFilmTheorists bruh 💀

@alexanderchen4123 Год назад

which is exactly the reason why all the new marvel movies are failing, they embrace the super hero identity way too much and make them all generic, lame superhero movies

@deer3481 Год назад

DC followed the DCAU blueprint but only in the DCAMU(warverse) it's like the only people who remembered they built the blueprint was dc animated studio

@valentineedgars3335 Год назад

Can someone hire this man to help write something or make an anime about him like the intellectual side of death note with one punch man humour

@crowonthepowerlines Год назад

A Superman film that focuses on Clark's social life and work would be amazing. All of the superhero stuff could happen off screen and it would only make the concept more hilarious.

@ethanedward01 Год назад

isn't that smallville??? the whole world was waiting for him to don his superman suits....but every week...he just tease the world wearing an assemble with the same color scheme......he's so mean..

@octogigas Год назад

Watch the entire first half of Man of Steel. You might like it.

@crowonthepowerlines Год назад

@@octogigas I'll check it out, thanks! I haven't really kept up with the franchise and I missed that one.

@crowonthepowerlines Год назад

@@ethanedward01 I liked the early seasons of Smallville, but it became a pretty superhero focused show toward the end once he started really superheroing. I want a story about the human relationships in his life like the early seasons of Smallville, but with Clark as an independent adult.

@amorfatikhb Год назад

17:25 ngl this is the most encouraging thing i’ve ever heard as a writer lmaoo

@TacticalTrucker Год назад

_What do you fail to understand at this point __6:33__ is that Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan already explored this point and expressed it; you need to watch Man of steel again_

@connor5185 Год назад

I think u need to rewatch mos

@anniemaria5850 Год назад

The animated series is just 😘👌 Nothing will ever top it

@aogasd Год назад

0:30 Spiderman! Do I win? Do I win??

@Caterev0038cool Год назад

@SailorBees Год назад

The word I always use to describe the Aquaman movie is "solid"!! Everyone I've watched it with always agrees because, although sometimes they'll have things they don't like about it, it stays consistent with itself (what MatPat mentioned about tone) and balances out in some way

@ConnanTheCivilized Год назад

It’s trippy and doesn’t make sense. But, that’s what fiction should be, particularly superhero movies.

@SailorBees Год назад

@@ConnanTheCivilized yesss exactly

@Furonanator139 Год назад

I've been saying since BvS the animated universe is where they shined and should focus on at least a bit, especially now a days when adults are more willing to watch cartoons especially ones that balance serious tones and situations with the normal antics and fun of cartoons, something the DCAU has always shined at

@HyperDragon01 Год назад

Don't forget about teen titans and young justice. The dcau has a lot of content and to my knowledge many of those works are highly praised. Young Justice got cancelled and brought back a decade later. People loved it enough to support it for so long.

@joshuasolorzano4368 Год назад

Didn’t they start cancelling certain avenues of DCAU content fairly recently to focus on their live action films instead? Kind of a shame, but I’m glad Matt gave credit to how well they executed the DCAU, even to this day. I got into Young Justice and got way more into the DC universe than any film prior

@juanescobar7255 Год назад

They should have Znider finished his trilogy, then start again with Reves Batman and Phoenixs Jolker...but we'll see how this comes out

@danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад

Matpatt seeing the potential in dc as always.

@JustaBusta Год назад

6:46 literally describing man of steel and supermans 5 movie arc

@connor5185 Год назад

He's not lol

@JustaBusta Год назад

@@connor5185 who asked you?

@djxafty Год назад

What really stood out for me are the Injustice Games stories. Those really made be a DC Fan in the first place. I would love to have that as in live-action films. Ik it would take alot of time but i would wait for it aslong as the stories whom i saw from the games would be almost exactly as the films

@FryLazerTazer 28 дней назад

I miss matpat

@CDH-wb6ez Год назад

I can imagine the effort that went into editing this video with two different audio tracks from different times, but it really does make for a brilliant video and glad you took the time to do it 👍

@Agent719 Год назад

The sad thing is I actually LIKED the mummy and wanted to see what they were going to do with all that. Such a missed opportunity.

@ak-ub1ym Год назад

Yea they messed up bad when they tried to show all the monsters in that world were living in connected universe.

@iambornstellar117 Год назад

Me too. I also liked Dracula Untold. The Dark Universe was a great concept, but probably not handled well.

@wesstewart2677 Год назад

@@ak-ub1ym except iron man was made as a movie meant to connect and build a universe. Literally you’re argument goes out the window, because of the inclusion of Shield, and the post credit scene with Nick Fury telling him he’s part of a bigger UNIVERSE. Those two things disprove that

@wesstewart2677 Год назад

@@iambornstellar117 if you want a great video on a possible Universal monster cinematic universe I recommend checking out professor thorgi’s video titled Let’s Relaunch the Universal Monsters. I think the concept has potential

@iambornstellar117 Год назад

@@wesstewart2677 Thanks, I'll check it out.

@snowberry_19 Год назад

5:32 I forgot that Swamp Thing and Booster Gold were kind of obscure 💀💀💀 I knew who those were from a young age and I feel like movies about them, especially Swamp Thing, could end up to be amazing

@loveinpeace1214 Год назад

I actually didn't mind the show.. they canceled it too soon

@JosueAguilar_01 Год назад

You forgot one thing. James Gunn fired Henry Cavill, not WB.

@ShadowDemon_4 Год назад

I was born in 1993 and I loved the DC animated shows. I never got to watch everything but when I did get to see an episode of any of them I was excited for it.

@jinx2292 Год назад

I grew up watching Justice League and JLU - Hawk girl has been, and still is, my favorite character since I was three. The DCAU means so much to me- I can't express it! It's also freaky that this episode talking about it came out, because I'm in the middle of binging it again! Lol. I want the DCAU to be expanded... so bad....

@Sioux-periorGaming Год назад

Can't wait to finally see Damien Wayne (Robin) and John Stewart (Green Lantern) come to life of the big screen. Damien and John are my favorite versions of the characters.

@patzy0299 Год назад

"Just go and watch some great old cartoons" Hearing that and seeing the vast number of DCAU fans' comments here on RU-vid that LITERALLY GREW UP watching these exact stories is mindblowing. DC has ALWAYS been different for one reason (well several reasons but those aren't important), the shows/comics/movies/animation are about these Super-Beings fighting on behalf of Humans and living/hiding among them in plain sight. DCAU was fantastic for its storytelling to give these epic heroes heck even small-time heroes that some of us never heard of (or much care for) something memorable. The CW Kids' WBs (in its prime) even created shows like Legion of Super-Heroes in 2006 (which sadly ended in 2008), The Batman(2004-2008) and THE MOST BELOVED OG Teen Titans(2003-2006)

@gavb99 Год назад

if I'm remembering right, James said in a reply to his tweet that hes using, or at least studying, animated shows such as justice league and young justice to help build out the world of the DCU. that leaves me pretty hopeful for the future of this universe

@ToNyToNy141 Год назад

6:18 - Halo.....

@mizixy9624 Год назад

I was a teenager when Static Shock and Batman Beyond and I loved them both.

@Foreveryellow13 Год назад

....isn't Gun one of the main reasons we lost Henry Cavill....not doing so hot thus far and he hasn't even really started yet.

@mc_va Год назад

Yeah, losing Henry is one of the reasons I'm stepping out of the DC movie train ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ

@stevenklnes7148 Год назад

Point 5 is the same thing with running a D&D style campaign. As a DM, you want to have an idea where the story is gonna go but you have to let your players (or audience) show you what they like and let that influence the overall story. When the DM and players (studio and audience) create the story together, the result is far more enjoyable for all involved.

@Kritacul Год назад

If you go back and watch Man of Steel, it does feel and fit right to the Original Superman movie and fits the character too. Yes the ending was a "what the heck", but it DOES make sense.

@liamphibia Год назад

Yes. Exactly!

@Starcrash6984 Год назад

What??? As explained in the video, Man of Steel is about Superman wrestling with morality. That's not a Superman story. In the comics and the other movies, it's merely a given that Superman represents all that is morally good, as contrasted appropriately with Batman who is morally ambiguous. That's why we see him do things like take revenge on a jerk by ruining his truck with telephone poles. That's not a "Superman thing to do", and unless he was high on a moral-ruining form of kryptonite, not something you'd ever see him do in the comics.

@numberjuan469 Год назад

@@Starcrash6984 it’s cause he was just starting out? it was his first day on the job and he went through the trolley problem in that same day.

@lightdarksoul2097 Год назад

@@numberjuan469 I mean I get not being the best on the first day but destroying two cities, kissing a girl in the crater of what was once a city block while there are people to help, it's possible Clark is just bad at his job

@protalghulnist4126 Год назад

@@lightdarksoul2097 but could it be possible that that was the point though? He's not the superman we know and love yet, so over time he'll start to become like that? Like that's basically the same thing they did with Batman, and wonder woman.

@spenzo Год назад

6:26 you literally just explained the plot of man of steel... just bring snyder back lol

@goldendragon6396 Год назад

sorry but, at 7:48, the character image just immediately made my brain think of stupendium.

@thefatmanbatman9822 Год назад

2:55 not to pop your balloon but James Gunn was teasing for weeks that he was going to reveal big things in January, i know you guys are too busy making videos to keep in touch with everything, I just had to point this out

@mairaineplayzgames2205 Год назад

13:16 i didnt hear any of this! O-O

@deannal.newton9772 Год назад

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about how film directors should respect the source material that they want to adapt into movies. For example, the first Super Mario Bros. movie was bad because they didn't respect the source material of the actual game that it was suppose to be based on. Now the Super Mario Bros. movie (which is partnered by Illumination and Nintendo) became an enjoyable movie to watch simply because they respected the source material of the actual games that it was based on. Heck, they even made a nod on how Mario and Luigi are both live in Brooklyn from the first Super Mario Bros. move but made it 100x better by incorporating actual staying on the "script" of how Mario games work in the movie.

@hizzousekakashi8836 Год назад

I kinda wanna go back and watch Static shock in it's entirety, I remember trying to watch it every time it was on but I missed so many episodes, it was such a great show though.

@deadboi8989 Год назад

I really hope we see Robert Pattinson again as Batman. His movie was a terrific portrayal of a new Batman

@themanofshadows Год назад

We will, part 2 is coming in 2025. And part 3 will come later.

@arandomidea9010 Год назад

Apperently (note, this is just my understanding and I hope I am wrong), there is going to be 2 batman lines- the one with the rest of the DCEU and one with Pattinson as an 'elseworlds' thing. IMHO it seems like this would cause loads of confusion, but I guess we just have to see.

@deadboi8989 Год назад

@@arandomidea9010 yeah i agree. I feel like it’s already a jumbled mess of movies, some will be cannon others not and it’s gonna make the average viewer super confused. I just want good dc movies bruh it’s becoming so complex 😭

@blueboy_9073 Год назад

Personally, id like to see more movies focusing on the villains of the franchise, like just imagine a riddler movie in the same vein as the joker movie, or a mr freeze movie, or a reverse flash movie, i think they would pop off.