Film Theory: Jigsaw was RIGHT! (Saw Movies) 

Main Lesson: a moderate degree of suffering can lead to more positive personal development. While significantly traumatic experiences can as well but are not worth the long-term negative mental consequences.

The part where she says “the best thing that happened to me, when cutting off my arm lets me use the handicap parking” Got Me Cracked Up

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts” Me deleting my entire contact list: it was time for a change anyways

Kinda missing out the part where Amanda became a self harmer and a murderer after being tested, Hoffman became a narcissistic, psychopath and a load of the survivors at the therapy sessions were evidently miserable hahaha

As someone with PTSD, I can say that the trauma that affected me made me more aware of my life, and every day I am thankful. While I hate what happened to me, it made me the person I am. That said, I experience extreme anxiety, suffered an eating disorder, and still have nightmares six years later due to my trauma.

Guy who got his stomach torn open: "Glad I helped Amanda get over her drug addiction."

5 words: “All Marked With This Symbol” Nailed it.

Honestly, the fact that the survivors of his traps turned out better from the experience could just be treated as an unrealistic aspect of the franchise, and imo should. People might experience a measure of personal growth as a result of the traps, but I would argue that realistically, the harm and trauma they would experience far outweighs any personal growth they achieve.

An example of this can be abuse from parents or relatives. You can grow up and think, “Oh, when I get older, I’m going to treat my own kids better” but you can also develop side effects such as anxiety, depression, and more things that can cause you to be unstable. There are goods and bads in every action taken.

Matpat should make a theory on how much money Phineas and Ferb spent that one summer.

1:54 - Your 4:15 - TV 8:06 - Is 8:52 - Studying 12:15 - You

I also really like that the whole reason Jigsaw does this stuff is because he can. He knows that there is nothing to stop him. The cops are so corrupt that as long as he can hand them some cash and say "yo hush up" he'll be fine. And its not like anyone will miss such corrupt people. He could have just started a therapy group or something, but no. He is such a unique and complex villain and it's so fricking awsome.

everything in your search history can be explained by "i'm writing a book". EVERYTHING.

"Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts." *laughs in loneliness*

The secret message is “your tv is studying you” or “your tv is studding people”… I think

"Handicapped parking at the d*mn mall!" 😱😱😱 I loved her emotion!

JigPat: "Let's play a game. Your entire search and browsing history.." Me: Do it coward. I have no shame

Jigsaw Matt: (Threatens to reveal my entire search history) Me who uses incognito mode because I like the dark theme: I am four parallel universe ahead of you.

"Your tv is studying you" is the code I believe, and it's also somewhat unerving.

The secret message in this video was: Helping others is something that brings a sense of fulfilment into your own life.

There was a scene that never got filmed in Saw III where Jigsaw breaks down crying because he realises that he’s going to be remembered as just a murderer, that they will twist his legacy and turn his work into one of hurt instead of healing, that he may have ultimately been wrong. I wish they did keep that scene in, that would have been a lot better than the “Jigsaw is right” crap from the later films and Jigsaw having lowkey brainwashing powers with everyone who survives his traps suddenly devoting their lives to him.

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts” guess it’s time to go into permanent creative mode

Yeah a lot of people miss the point Trauma doesn't help you grow, you grow despite the trauma

Jigsaw: i want people to appreciate life Also jigsaw: puts a guy in a nearly impossible trap for missing work to enjoy life

"Your TV is studying you" Well, hope it gets a good grade!

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts.” Laughs in Incognito mode

Trauma may help some people but overall, as anyone with ptsd can tell you, it’s not worth it.

I love that matpat acknowledged PTSD. It causes so much cognitive issues too. I can't even look at a foggy window, I'll probably never drive, and my day to day life is so much harder now because I need to walk with a cane. There's nothing good about trauma.

Yes at the end of the day Jigsaw can be seen as a murderous psychopath like any other horror villain, but his unique ideology and backstory for why he does what he does, is why he’s my #1 favorite horror villain. Great video by the way MatPat, I enjoyed watching it!

“Your entrie browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts” People who delete all of their history: I don’t have such weakness

"Your TV is studying you" *Slowly rotates head to the general direction of the TV*

Pain promotes growth, but too much of anything is bad for you. I once heard that you can go insane without ever realizing it. I think that’s what happened to John after his failed suicide attempt. I think John went insane, didn’t realize it and mistook it for an epiphany.

I agree with some of the takes on this philosophy of trauma. I went through deep emotional hardship and I can genuinely say that the realisation I gained was worth the many months of severe distress, the challenging (and still ongoing) recovery and the activation of my predisposition to IBS. But in this case, I wold say it worked just for me, and only because I wasn't traumatised, just deeply hurt. I think I experienced a pretty lucky hardship all said. Getting out with an iron-clad sense of self and knowing exactly what you want to do with your life at the age of only 17 was pretty nice, and my medical and other issues are made easily manageable with medication and care. So I agree that huge, life-changing realisation can come from situations of hardship that you aren't yet equipped to deal with. But I also think that suffering to the extent of real trauma isn't worth it because there is a lot of suffering that the mind is never equipped to deal with, which can, one way or another, lead to death (suicide, emotional distress leading to heart failure, panic attacks, activation of genetic diseases due to mental health weakening the immune system, spiralling out of control and taking out their trauma on people via murder and torture and such).

I'm amazed you said “Your entire browser history will be sent to everyone in your contacts list” and still missed the opportunity for a VPN sponsor

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts...” Welp I guess grandma’s about to learn what fanfics are

I have complex PTSD (four years into recovery, yay me) and I'm a survivor of attempted homicide and I can confirm that I have ended up with a greater appreciation for life and the little moments, I have a much more open mind to people down on their luck, I prioritize my health and happiness more than anything else and I have a greater sense of purpose. But it wasn't always like that. I had and still have disabling mental problems. I struggle holding down jobs, my trauma manifests with visual and auditory hallucinations, there are times where what happened to me feels like it's still happening over and over again. Early in my recovery, it was all pain and struggle without all the positives I experience now. People tend to take the outlook of "Oh, but it made you stronger!" And I argue that while it did in some aspects later down the line, ultimately, I (and everyone else in a similar place) deserved much better. Having a greater appreciation of life is good, but it's easier to navigate life when you don't have ghosts from the past breathing down your neck, figuratively, literally or through a hallucination LOL It's also worth it to mention that not everyone who has developed PTSD gets help or identifies that they have it. When you can't navigate through it and have no one to guide you, some people tend to reap much more negative than positive, like an intense distrust of others, outbursts that could harm themselves or others or a terrible outlook on life to name a few general ones. I know that's where I was before my PTSD was identified or being treated.

*Here’s what I think the answer is:* The first symbol is at 1:50 - “Your” The next is at 4:14 - the tv corner, so I think “TV” The next is at 8:07 - “is” Another is at 8:52 - “studying” The last is at 12:14 - the man that Mat refers to like he represents us, so “you” In think the final sentence is “Your TV is studying you.” (I’ve seen a few people say this too, so I think it’s correct)

JigPat: “Your browser history will be exposed” Me: laughs in incognito and VPN

Billy Pat: "Everyone will know your browser history if you fail this test!" Incognito browsers: "Are you really in charge here?"

As someone who has ptsd, ive seen many books and therapists saying that people say it was for the better is a way of coping. Telling yourself that it happened for a reason or that you changed for the better makes it more bearable to live with and feel less like it was all for nothing. Just suffering for the sake of suffering. So even if jigsaw was right, its only because certain people happen to cope that way, not because its a fact of trauma.

What a cool video, can't believe I only just found this! Bout half a decade ago, I wrote an essay for my Ethics class on this topic, so this was super interesting to watch.

JigPat: "Let's play a game. Your entire search and browsing history.." Me: I surrender.

The thing is, even if you put aside how messed up it is to put peoples lives on the line as a way of “bettering“ their lives, jigsaw isn’t even consistent with these methods. There’s a lot of people put into his game that are left in traps that are literally impossible to overcome. How are their lives in proved? And even if you try arguing that “that isn’t there to improve their lives, but to make the other participants happy they didn’t get put in that trap“ that defeats the purpose of trying to improve someone’s life if it means ending someone else’s. Not to mention that the survivors are most likely going to have to deal with survivors guilt

The 5 words are your tv is studying you

5 words aye? "I use incognito mode Sooooooooo..."

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts in 1 hour.” **Deletes everyone from my contacts**

I can say that the idea of suffering being progression, is kind of true. I have experienced things that made me feel like everything was falling apart and that life was pointless, but in the end I made progress and ended up a little bit better.

it depends on how the person cope too. maybe the traumatized people are trying to look for good in the things that happened that's why some reported positive outlooks lol

Here are the swirls if anyone wants to know: 1:51 the swirls is behind the word "your". 4:14 the swirl is on the tv. 8:08 the swirl is behind "is". 8:53 the swirl is behind "studying". 12:16 the swirl is on the person representing "you". Your TV is studying you. Thanks for reading this!

The secret code is, "Your TV is studying you." You're welcome.

12:14 found the green spiral thingie. But besides that I LOVE watching these theory videos and i watch them the most! Thanks for the AMAZING content Matpat👍🎉

Rule 1: dont anger John

The code is “Your Tv Is Studying You” so please Mat don’t show my parents the pictures of pasta

Ah the best way to appreciate life. Ptsd and survivors guilt.

Next thing you know, Matt Patt's gonna start testing his theory on people who didn't subscribe.

4:39 "Some people are so ungrateful to be alive." Ad: INDULGE! 😊

“Your entire search history will be released” What’s 4+7? What does devour mean? Who’s the first president?

"Your entire search history will be sent to everyone" Me: **Laughs in Rick Roll**

"Your tv is studying you" This is the secret 5 words.

I’ve been through a very abusive relationship and it helped me a lot. I live my life with purpose now. Knowing what my life could’ve been I appreciate what I have more then ever. But the negative is that I don’t want to trust people anymore but the ones I do trust I know I can. I guess there’s a silver lining to everything

"Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts." Me: *Laughs in incognito mode* Also Me: *Laughs in lack of friends*

“Your TV is studying you” Me, who almost never watches TV: Cool!

Trauma doesn’t make you stronger, the process of healing from it does.

If there was another person exactly like John and did the same things, they would likely put him in a test like John does.

“I will send your search history to everyone.” Jokes on you, I habitually use Incognito Mode for even innocent stuff.

"Your TV is studying you" Yeah yeah, as if our phone camera's weren't enough for the government.

Loved the opening, but I'm not terribly worried. Everyone i know already knows I'm weird.😂

This example of enhancement rings true for everyone or a great deal of people, for an example, when uncle ben dies and spidey decides to be a hero from it

"Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts." *Laughs in incognito*

The secret message is either: “ your family is studying you” or “Your TV is studying you” either way it’s creepy.. thanks matpat 😂😂😂

Darn, I was really late and now my search history is out, but anyways "your trama helped you grow" is something I would most definetly say

John Kramer to victim: "Your life is too perfect, you do things flawlessly, but😅 with the time passing you have become a machine which has an accurate schedule, whose existance revolves only around accurately defined priorities, dehumanizing yourself in the process, you are so disciplined and focused on your goals that you have forgotten to enjoy the simplest pleasures of life"😅

Me who uses incognito mode and deletes all my search history: *I dont have such weaknesses*

“Your TV is studying you” Probably, considering how many targeted adds it has.

bro, jigsaw took treat others the way you want to be treated to a whole other level

Jigsaw is the kind of person who bullies blind people who want to get surgery to not be blind anymore.

I had a moment there where I was sitting there like "He's not actually going to say trauma makes people better" and then he didn't and I was like "oh thank god"

How to beat MatPat in the begining: DELETE EVERY CONTACT YOU HAVE

Jigsaw is one of my favorite film franchises so to see this theory made my day ❤

I feel like I need to point out that the traps were made & set by the cop, after Johns death the traps become harder to escape as the cop no longer had the master so he just killed off the scum. Also the 7th movie was the last as they really had to dig deep to find a plot line for the 8th & the final chapter rounds us back to the Dr from the 1st closing the circle.

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts.” I don’t have a browsing history, I use incognito mode!

Jigsaw makes me think of any abuser that say they act out of love. That you'll be tougher for it. And if you do survive and are "tougher" then you were, they take credit for it. Its like you breaking someone's arm and taking credit for it healing, instead of the doctors and loved ones that help them through it. Critical Role actually addressed this during a game: "Pain doesn't make people; it's love that makes people. The pain is inconsequential; it's love that saves them."

"murder is distasteful to me" something john said to one of the people he trained. Every jigsaw puzzle was made to be 100% escapable. The participants had to choose. Escape and be reborn, or die

The major diference i can see in the situation that happened to Jig saw, is that non of the prior ones put him in mortal danger inmidiatly, maybe the better apretiation for life in science is not because of the trauma itself but by the seeing their life pass before their eyes, and while i concur with you a little, there is a constant in all of jig saw games: They are all deadly, and force you in terrible, rapid and stressfull situation in wich every second counts, if i remember a majority of the victims scape by seconds the mortal trap, literally seeing their life pass their eyes, and while yes there is physical trauma involved like it happend to Jigsaw himself, the end goal of the challenge is your certain death or certain life, the movie isnt saying that trauma and bad situation are the ones that change you: Is the near death experience, and that is not a situation that was taken in consideration in the studies you presented, while yes all passed in danger, a porcentage was certain they could live while others danced with death, when it was uncertain that they could live. Yeah a tsunami is traumatic, but its not certain death, is not the same reaction the ones that live in the hills to the ones that live in the coast, they are traumatic situations, but they are not deathly. One can suffer trauma by a stresfull situation but its not the stresfull situation that make you understand life, its the death near experience, and while it can come with stresfull situation, its not the situation being stresfull that provoke the change, its the death breathing down your neck so closly

“Your TV is watching you” Jokes on you I’m too broke to have a tv....😃

"your TV is studying you" *Me who actually is studying the TV*

1:56 O (word Your) 4:19 start of Amanda section on the top right corner of the tv (S for the S word on that name plate and first word we hear to see it is SEE?, E since dial on 5?) 8:10 S (Is) 8:53 S (Studying) 12:15 a person with symbol on the forehead (I for improv class?, P for plane crash?) Your device/tv/screen is studying you. Couldn't tell what the second word was even in full screen HD so mostly guessing from what I see in that scene and placement of the spiral. I saw what could be seen as an "S" or a lightning bolt but since I'm looking for a word it's the best I got Never played this video's challenge as watching this as it scary wasn't focusing cuz it scary and didn't listen carefully cuz it scary.

I still don’t think what jigsaw did was right. Sure, some survivors had a positive effect, but others had ptsd. The worst part is most people didn’t even survive

Jigsaw be the type of person to say "your trauma helped you grow". And like a wise tumblr user once said: "the only thing that shouldve helped me grow was milk and vegetables"

It just blows my mind how consistent Matpat is in creating content for years now.

Your TV is studying you

I haven’t seen anyone answer the 5 words but I think I found it. “Your Tv Is Studying You.”

MatPatsaw: everything will be exposed... Me: *laughs in NordVPN

"Your television is studying you" It's probably mad at me for playing Warframe so much

The words i found w/ the billy the puppets cheeks spirals but in green is "Your TV is studying Man" kinda scary but who knows what that means

The answer to the riddle mat said at the intro is: your tv is studying you (that's what I think is true).

"Your TV is studying you" that is the five words

Little suggestion for theory videos: "cloudy with a chance of meatballs" Like, it's possible to make an machine that transform water into food? What problems would a food rain cause to the environment? And the economy? It's a lot of questions.

"your tv is studying you" is the answer wich is pretty creepy it took 43minutes and 38 seconds to complete this task of yours 1:50 4:15 8:06 8:52 12:14

personally i dont think amanda got over her addiction, she just hopped onto a new one