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Film Theory: Why Pewdiepie's Fiverr Joke Backfired 

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The Media vs. Pewdiepie! ►► bit.ly/2lGWjkW
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This is one I wanted to cover 1) because many of you were requesting my thoughts and 2) because I think Pewdiepie's situation can teach us all a lot of things about the nature of comedy and how comedy can be a force for good in the world.
And let me reiterate it here, since I'm sure people will jump to conclusions prematurely without watching the video: I support Pewdiepie. I'm a fan of his. I respect and enjoy his work. I agree with his stance on the media and am constantly infuriated by how they manipulate facts and events to generate headlines with no thought or concern for the impact they're having on people. That said, I do think that Pewdipie could have made his "satire" on Fiverr more clear and targeted, thus avoiding this whole mess. This video is just meant to discuss what went wrong and what could be improved in the future!
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@oscarnewsome1711
@oscarnewsome1711 7 лет назад
I think it is actually pretty easy to tell when Felix is making a joke or when he's being serious - he does that sarcastic voice.
@Hockeyluke1042
@Hockeyluke1042 7 лет назад
I LOVE YOU exactly
@Lehydra2k
@Lehydra2k 7 лет назад
Oscar Newsome I think that's what MatPat was trying to say. Us regulars that knew Felix can easily see when he is making a joke. Other people, i.e. those that aren't his audience would have a harder time distinguishing, especially when they see it out of context in a news site.
@retrokamzi7336
@retrokamzi7336 7 лет назад
yeah he says things with a loud S
@linasayshush
@linasayshush 7 лет назад
Yeah, that's a pretty subjective qualification.
@nishadawasthy7128
@nishadawasthy7128 7 лет назад
But they still judge it way too quickly, and usually when they see it out of context which is really unfair to pewdiepie
@Hockeyluke1042
@Hockeyluke1042 7 лет назад
I think the opinion of what's a good joke is subjective. Just because you don't like the joke doesn't mean I don't find it hilarious. (And I'm Jewish)
@allanalvarez3778
@allanalvarez3778 7 лет назад
Luke Man Dude most funny jokes actually have a dark background
@Teamflavwardog
@Teamflavwardog 7 лет назад
Luke Man Dude this comment is just so much yes
@watermanagaminghd3531
@watermanagaminghd3531 7 лет назад
he never even mentioned H3H3 who said he liked it
@minisneakyninja
@minisneakyninja 7 лет назад
exactly
@Exantius9
@Exantius9 7 лет назад
What an individual considers a good joke is subjective, but what the majority considers good humor is a statistical fact, and is therefore objective. This video made no arguments about what makes an objectively funny joke that makes everyone laugh, just clarified what most people expect and why breaking that formula can lead to backlash
@nerdynightmare6849
@nerdynightmare6849 4 года назад
When boys sleep with 5 girls they’re called a “player” but when I do it I’m a “lesbian”
@bozomechanics2531
@bozomechanics2531 4 года назад
No, the dude is called an asshole
@turcanudan9386
@turcanudan9386 4 года назад
HAVE SOME LÚCIO-OHS! Not really
@bozomechanics2531
@bozomechanics2531 4 года назад
Yes really
@JIsDoingSomething
@JIsDoingSomething 4 года назад
@@bozomechanics2531 Dude its a joke chill
@bionic_z3031
@bionic_z3031 4 года назад
good one
@Duck89111
@Duck89111 5 лет назад
“For legal reasons that a joke”
@Daniel-qf9ne
@Daniel-qf9ne 3 года назад
ha
@IronIsKing
@IronIsKing 3 года назад
haha
@user-xb6ti2ej5z
@user-xb6ti2ej5z 2 года назад
Hahaha
@markchernyshev7785
@markchernyshev7785 2 года назад
Hahahaha
@titok0018
@titok0018 2 года назад
*thats
@littleeskimo26z
@littleeskimo26z 7 лет назад
Fucking hell, I'm Jewish and I realize it's a joke. People are so sensitive these days
@kicsnasdc
@kicsnasdc 7 лет назад
Gypsy Babe You are a jew, your opinion doesnt matter.
@kassdaosdo1532
@kassdaosdo1532 7 лет назад
kicsnasdc BEST COMMENT EVEEEER
@vtrungkien1998
@vtrungkien1998 7 лет назад
nice meta-joke.
@carolyn4236
@carolyn4236 7 лет назад
+Gypsy Babe exactly..
@rainv2706
@rainv2706 7 лет назад
the problem is, the ones who gets offended, are the overly sensitive people and not the targeted people that were literally included into the joke. this is 2017 lmao
@Majora96
@Majora96 7 лет назад
But did it really backfire? PewDiePie has more subscribers than ever
@HandmadeGoose97
@HandmadeGoose97 7 лет назад
He's Pewdiepie, he can rebound from anything
@andrewtruax3977
@andrewtruax3977 7 лет назад
Also, some times a joke is a joke, regardless of how good of a joke it is. And despite what matpat says, pc culture is killing off comedy in cases like this, because apparently everyone needs to have the same view on everything, and all minorities a privileged group that can't be laughed at.
@greatsword6365
@greatsword6365 7 лет назад
tina1804 feminist
@tr1pod45
@tr1pod45 7 лет назад
tina1804 im gay
@Geleivis
@Geleivis 7 лет назад
he always has more subscribers than ever if you think about it
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 4 года назад
Damn, I feel bad for those Indian dudes. Makes me want to just send them $100, no strings attached.
@jarubanjeevan9477
@jarubanjeevan9477 3 года назад
Wait really?
@Akrammfk
@Akrammfk 3 года назад
lol they knew what it meant don't be naive
@joshuajenix7819
@joshuajenix7819 3 года назад
Actually pewds helped them to get a job in patreon
@ZOCCOK
@ZOCCOK 3 года назад
@@Akrammfk nope, zero chance that they even knew what it meant. Just imagine someone giving you the worst curse in their native language and you have absolutely no idea what it is or even what it means so you are not even going to think about it rather than getting offended.
@trishpoo8962
@trishpoo8962 2 года назад
@@ZOCCOK You have a point
@pey10shel10
@pey10shel10 4 года назад
I felt like I had to respond to the comment about same gender parents...I have two moms and I'm literally immune to "your moms gay" joke people just sigh when they go "yeah your moms g-" and I just smile and say "which one?" its the only thing that brings me endless joy
@j.c.2240
@j.c.2240 4 года назад
I got a laugh just thinking about that situation, so thank you
@andrewchen6253
@andrewchen6253 4 года назад
You should feel lucky you got two moms instead of two dads. Imagine all the dad jokes you would have gotten
@darbiesamson140
@darbiesamson140 3 года назад
@@andrewchen6253 but i like dad jokes
@doomguy8718
@doomguy8718 3 года назад
The Trickster
@tangytim6699
@tangytim6699 3 года назад
Haha nice
@mtnofmolehills3781
@mtnofmolehills3781 7 лет назад
Jesus can walk on water. Watermelons are 92% water. I can walk on watermelons. I am 92% Jesus.
@ClayWar237
@ClayWar237 7 лет назад
GrammaCat HOLY WATERMELONS BATMAN!
@coopercobb8867
@coopercobb8867 7 лет назад
GrammaCat Jesus can't do that cause Jesus doesn't exis.......wait I don't want to trigger Jesus freaks.
@unshackled2907
@unshackled2907 7 лет назад
chuck Norris can swim through land.
@maxx6282
@maxx6282 7 лет назад
GrammaCat lol
@RyanAVRX
@RyanAVRX 7 лет назад
GrammaCat a
@tragictrain404
@tragictrain404 7 лет назад
This is so offensive...how can you just write "Comic Sans" in Papyrus? My brain hurts now.
@4lonzo
@4lonzo 7 лет назад
you got the reference. its a joke where he is talking about comedy. its a doble meta pun.
@lianrie8224
@lianrie8224 7 лет назад
AlwaysTheButler Especially if it's an UT trash they would've been pissed *cough* *cough* AKA *Me*
@larry6130
@larry6130 7 лет назад
AlwaysTheButler its disgraceful
@benjaminamos8668
@benjaminamos8668 7 лет назад
I wonder why this comment is top comment now?
@timothyd.9859
@timothyd.9859 7 лет назад
its an Undertale joke
@ashleylightheart126
@ashleylightheart126 3 года назад
Imagine if it said "death to Nazis" then acted offended while in said uniform. And have jesus say "Kimstar did nothing wrong, subscribe to him"
@yedukrishna8613
@yedukrishna8613 3 года назад
that first one wouldve actually worked so fucking well. imagining it is hilarious. honestly the best comment yet
@harrison8624
@harrison8624 5 лет назад
The jesus thing was never him, it was just pinned to him, and overlayed with him apologizing. It took him till 2019 to actually talk about it. And turns out he really never payed Jesus to do it. Was someone else.
@vemundberget3432
@vemundberget3432 4 года назад
Not to mentioned that actealy was preatty fun
@nothingmuch1129
@nothingmuch1129 3 года назад
Sorry but he *DID SAY IT*
@theflash9735
@theflash9735 3 года назад
@@nothingmuch1129 What?
@gioo327
@gioo327 3 года назад
Yeah when did he say it
@y.e.benboder7826
@y.e.benboder7826 3 года назад
yeah he paid the jesus guy to say something about jackspedicy or something like that
@FlareBlitzBanana
@FlareBlitzBanana 7 лет назад
Here's the answer: Stay off the internet. No matter what you do, someone will find a way to twist your words.
@Noah-nt4tb
@Noah-nt4tb 7 лет назад
Flare Blitz Banana "no matter" "I" "will" "twist your words " wow
@kroros9900
@kroros9900 7 лет назад
I'm offended cause you said twist I don't like the word twist
@boaofdeath
@boaofdeath 7 лет назад
Flare Blitz Banana I like dicks,HAH TRY TWISTING THAT oh wait I tied my own noose fuck
@RustyChest_
@RustyChest_ 7 лет назад
A better answer is :Stay off the internet, no matter what you do, there's always something to offend you on here and it's not going to be removed because you want it
@Gray963
@Gray963 7 лет назад
Best just to remember that if someone is quoting another for any side in any context then it's guaranteed to be twisted at least a little. Only way to trust something is to see the full context of both sides for yourself.
@theunheardvoice007
@theunheardvoice007 7 лет назад
Being racist is not a crime. Acting on racist thought however is illegal.
@pattyalmighty2713
@pattyalmighty2713 7 лет назад
?????
@gamenerd4322
@gamenerd4322 7 лет назад
I thought the definition of racists is people who act on racists thoughts
@Peasham
@Peasham 7 лет назад
The Unheard Voice Indeed
@brendanswords4659
@brendanswords4659 7 лет назад
Pat Boss you ok there?
@micahphilson
@micahphilson 7 лет назад
That doesn't change the fact, though, that Felix isn't racist at all, and most of this controversy is manufactured by the media expounding off of one joke that he admitted went too far, but they didn't let it stop there, they kept building this up.
@davidsweeney3360
@davidsweeney3360 Год назад
A big part of this people forget maybe the worst part is that those guys holding the sign had no idea what it meant. He broadcasted them holding a sign with that horrible message to millions of people. He told them to do something that they didn’t know the consequences or the meaning of then broadcasted it to millions.
@sarah-jaynebrade8799
@sarah-jaynebrade8799 4 года назад
Mat pat should get a Netflix show
@darbiesamson140
@darbiesamson140 3 года назад
Nah it should be disney+ show
@kilumbata
@kilumbata 3 года назад
Doesn't he have a nickelodeon show?
@vincentgarcia6231
@vincentgarcia6231 3 года назад
That would be a terrible idea
@emeraldpistol1251
@emeraldpistol1251 3 года назад
Vincent Garcia can’t be worse than cuties.
@vincentgarcia6231
@vincentgarcia6231 3 года назад
Emerald Pistol true lol but i was saying it because of cuites he shouldnt partner up with them because of it!
@tonityra
@tonityra 7 лет назад
I feel sorry for people with same gender parents. Either they get twice the amount of dad jokes, or get stuck in an endless loop of, "Ask your mum." Was it funny? Or did I offend you?
@evanmccance8631
@evanmccance8631 7 лет назад
CrazyisGenius it was funny
@jaydenjordan418
@jaydenjordan418 7 лет назад
CrazyisGenius yeah funny
@Arnoldisbored
@Arnoldisbored 7 лет назад
I'm slightly offended by your joke. I'm gonna need you to give me your full name and employer so I can publicly shame you and have you fired. Please think of the children and be more careful with your thoughts and jokes in the future.
@steffencuneo2362
@steffencuneo2362 7 лет назад
I can't XD
@johnh2665
@johnh2665 7 лет назад
That's the thing. It depends on whether you're an attack helicopter or not
@pockx7972
@pockx7972 7 лет назад
I'm jewish, knowing the context the joke actually made me and most of my jewish friends laugh, some found it rather stupid but knowing the context, not offensive, the media exploded it like it usually does and that is just stupid.
@legendofzeldarules44
@legendofzeldarules44 7 лет назад
it wasn't cherry picking because it wasn't about the whole episode, just the part about the racisim.
@ArcHelios117
@ArcHelios117 7 лет назад
If you want to know who rules, look for those you can not criticize, remember ? You, as a Jewish pleb, have no problem with that, just like me. But those that are...higher than you (and me) in the pyramid of power clearly did not like this. You do not say anything bad about Jews without mediatic consequences. This is a (nother) perfect example.
@SummonerSkipper
@SummonerSkipper 7 лет назад
People are sensitive nowadays days, some people want to act like they are political correct but it's just a façade
@JD69Han
@JD69Han 7 лет назад
PockX Jew get it. *Edit* Wish more people had thicker skin like you and your friends. God bless.
@ryanolivr9482
@ryanolivr9482 7 лет назад
PockX amen
@leovaldez680
@leovaldez680 2 года назад
16:07 I've actually experienced this in real life, on a much smaller level. At my school, we used to create "ship names" for people we thought liked each other. We found out that the more you tell people they have a crush on each other, the more likely they are to develop feelings for that person.
@commandercorl1544
@commandercorl1544 Год назад
That...explains a lot.
@G31M1
@G31M1 5 лет назад
0:10 You can literally see that PewDiePie can’t believe what he sees and doesn’t know how to react. The stupid laughter of the guys holding the sign makes him smile because he’s so weirded out by the whole situation and I can completely relate to that.
@heavenonearth3316
@heavenonearth3316 3 года назад
It's the same reaction I had because I was kind of disgusted.
@Pavel7918
@Pavel7918 7 лет назад
four sensitive groups according to Matpat: Gays Women Muslims Cat-lovers
@eeeertoo2597
@eeeertoo2597 7 лет назад
Tyler Jones Remove cat lovers and replace it with sjws.
@Pavel7918
@Pavel7918 7 лет назад
Kenstreme I think that's an "it", not a group of people
@draven86
@draven86 7 лет назад
how about media silence for all populist parties?
@DJWarwing
@DJWarwing 7 лет назад
PewDiePie fans Trump supporters Anyone on the internet
@brentblack6178
@brentblack6178 7 лет назад
He's not wrong though
@burtonboardscogeco1088
@burtonboardscogeco1088 6 лет назад
"Nothing ruins a joke faster than analyzing it" MEME REVIEW *CLAP CLAP* MEME REVIEW
@roboactive
@roboactive 5 лет назад
👏👏
@spruceferret752
@spruceferret752 5 лет назад
👏👏
@elements1168
@elements1168 5 лет назад
👏👏
@HolyKonchu
@HolyKonchu 5 лет назад
👏👏
@mysticflower7727
@mysticflower7727 5 лет назад
👏🏻👏🏻
@foxyoner3674
@foxyoner3674 4 года назад
The best joke I've told is my life
@dayneshng2000
@dayneshng2000 3 года назад
Stop saying your life is a joke, jokes have meaning Just a joke don’t take it seriously
@astoldbynickgerr
@astoldbynickgerr 3 года назад
LMAOOOOOOOO
@crowley3885
@crowley3885 3 года назад
Is that Cuz you're sus
@foxyoner3674
@foxyoner3674 3 года назад
@@dayneshng2000 I'm 2 months late but nice joke
@foxyoner3674
@foxyoner3674 2 года назад
@@jamesleonard1967 I can tell by that profile pic. Sorry just a joke man
@DemontaDark
@DemontaDark 5 лет назад
there's doing something iffy and making a mistake and then there's your reaction when someone says something you've done is bad. I think the reaction to the reaction is more than telling of character :/
@hedgie9823
@hedgie9823 5 лет назад
Good point
@theflash9735
@theflash9735 3 года назад
Uhh what?
@DemontaDark
@DemontaDark 3 года назад
@@theflash9735 idk how to clarify this further but: if you do something shitty, and people say hey that was shitty. if youre a douche about it youre just a douche. if you bother to listen to why people are upset and acknowledge you did something shitty then youre a decent person.
@theflash9735
@theflash9735 3 года назад
@@DemontaDark oh ok makes sense
@DemontaDark
@DemontaDark 2 года назад
@Edgy thats fair. everything is subjective. but thats what being a person in a society is. dont get upset when you lose a lot of your relationships as a result of you not being willing/able to take another persons perspective.
@ReapingRen
@ReapingRen 7 лет назад
but still dark humor is like a cure not everyone gets it
@julielayese3962
@julielayese3962 7 лет назад
Kayle Santos Dark humor is like food, few get plump and most dont get it at all
@akshatsaxena1431
@akshatsaxena1431 7 лет назад
study says people who crack dark jokes and laugh on dark jokes tend to have higher IQ than other people
@jannovak6819
@jannovak6819 7 лет назад
Dark humor is like a kid with cancer. It never gets old.
@Anthonys-Corner
@Anthonys-Corner 7 лет назад
Kayle Santos #pewdiepiedidnothing
@thebenboss8925
@thebenboss8925 7 лет назад
Foxy T. MLG Fox yea #whatdidpewdiepieeverdotoyou?
@th3mdt
@th3mdt 7 лет назад
Looking at so many people in the comments, saying how people shouldn't tell them what to not laugh at, and I feel like y'all either didn't watch the video or understand it, making you just as bad as the reactionary SJWs you criticize. This video isn't telling you what you shouldn't laugh at, or why it isn't funny. It's explaining why the joke didn't land with many people, and why one could perceive it as offensive. MattPat goes on to say that he's on Felix's side, he's not trying to condemn him for what he said. He's merely explaining why something like that, especially when taken out of context, caused the shitstorm it did. The fucking thumbnail for this video even makes that abundantly clear. Anyone still rattling off about "don't police my sense of humor" can get their head out of their ass immediately. Nobody cares what you find funny the same way that you don't care what they find offensive. They just know what they like and dislike as I'm sure you do as well. The answer to that isn't to be a snarky bitch to people with different opinions, it's to just keep supporting and enjoying what you like.
@th3mdt
@th3mdt 7 лет назад
Poorly delivered, yes, and possibly in bad taste, but he never calls out PewDiePie for that, and starts by saying he is, quote, "on Felix's side". Saying that many people don't understand that he is a character because they don't see it as a performance. Just because he's critical of the delivery doesn't mean he's trying to shame PewDiePie for making the joke he did - he's simply stating why people didn't find it funny and why many were very critical and offended by it based on how it was delivered. Did YOU watch the video?
@GoddoDoggo
@GoddoDoggo 7 лет назад
Josh, the joke was poorly delivered. It was _objectively_ poorly delivered. Most of Pewdiepie's fans don't realize that because they're thirteen and laugh at the words "penis" and "boobies."
@rileyfreeman7836
@rileyfreeman7836 7 лет назад
th3mdt he did say the jokes balidle rape victims and jewish people, nobody should feel belidled by a joke that is very clearly not the real view of the joke teller. he acted like PewDiePie did something wrong accidently when he didn't. neither did Daniel Tosh it was an improvised joke to a heckler he obviously doesnt think real rape is funny so anyone who got offended are just looking to get offended. I do agree with you that it's ridiculous to say he is policing our humor it's just his opinion he said he doesn't want him cencored or slandered so it's not a problem.
@charitymakey4860
@charitymakey4860 7 лет назад
MatPat also never says that no one should ever make jokes like that or that nazi jokes were bad. If he personally thinks the jokes are distasteful than that's fine, humor is subjective and everyone has their own opinion. But he isn't trying to sensor anyone's jokes. MatPat from what I've seen in a lot of his videos has always been anti censorship.
@lukecoyi1784
@lukecoyi1784 7 лет назад
Whoever needs to watch a 20 minute video to understand how a joke works, then that is very sad and I pity them.
@LouShijin
@LouShijin Год назад
Him saying he isn't responsible for it is like someone 🔪 someone else and then saying "i didn't unalived him. It was the gun". He paid people to do it, he reviewed it, he edited it and then uploaded it. 4 stages where he could have thought about it.
@jeffjeff9037
@jeffjeff9037 3 года назад
It's Ironic how MatPat disagreed about Political Correctness ruining our ability to joke about touchy subjects, when the Louis CK example he uses to argue that point would be ripped apart by Political Correctness in today's age, thus, proving those who said it was ruining our ability to joke about touchy topics right.
@dumbname939
@dumbname939 2 года назад
But you have no proof that it would be?
@MarcosAmparo
@MarcosAmparo 7 лет назад
Teaching Pewdiepie how to avoid any controversy. STEP 1. Don't talk about controversy. Step 2. Repeat step 1 Step 3. repeat step 2 step 4. repeat and repeat it again
@MarcosAmparo
@MarcosAmparo 7 лет назад
and done
@yourmomsfavoriterecipe6236
@yourmomsfavoriterecipe6236 7 лет назад
Makes sense
@MarcosAmparo
@MarcosAmparo 7 лет назад
It really doesn't
@BocchiTheBox
@BocchiTheBox 7 лет назад
Marcos Amparo Every fucking where. You are everywhere.
@rairianm
@rairianm 7 лет назад
.
@PerfectParkerPro
@PerfectParkerPro 7 лет назад
Hitler jokes are rude. Anne Frank-ly we don’t care. Edit: wow I had no idea it would get this many likes
@trappedinthedollhouse7394
@trappedinthedollhouse7394 7 лет назад
The R!OT Squad || Jeez... I shouldn't have laughed. I did.
@poiuytrewq11422
@poiuytrewq11422 7 лет назад
The R!OT Squad Auschwitz, you just when there mein bro.
@guntsquad658
@guntsquad658 7 лет назад
The R!OT Squad you are making me leave Mein Kampf-ert zone
@countdeku646
@countdeku646 7 лет назад
The R!OT Squad Did Nat-zi that joke coming
@raiyan3348
@raiyan3348 7 лет назад
The R!OT Squad you put me out of Mein Kampf-ort zone
@xuanlin6420
@xuanlin6420 5 лет назад
Guess that pewdiepieee learned from this channel by making the MUSIC video "CONGRATULATION"
@raynardrapael5559
@raynardrapael5559 3 года назад
Yeah too many setup and turn
@Chunks-of-Pepsi
@Chunks-of-Pepsi 4 года назад
You know who else doesn't understand joke structure? MY MOM!
@mahsofabishweenie1866
@mahsofabishweenie1866 3 года назад
*YES* this reference makes me happy
@dumpsterfire4269
@dumpsterfire4269 3 года назад
* takes off shirt and swings it around * WOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH
@GameHero152
@GameHero152 3 года назад
This. This is perfection
@kingofevilganondorfdragmir3319
@kingofevilganondorfdragmir3319 3 года назад
My parents are the same
@graemelawrence9314
@graemelawrence9314 3 года назад
regular show
@petar997
@petar997 7 лет назад
No fan got offended from Pewdiepie's video, the only ones who got offended are media and people who only read headlines of those articles. Almost every viewer knew Pewdiepie said it as a joke and didn't take it personal at all. Your example of Loius CK was awful, since media and internet didn't attack him at all, making him being able to slip by unnoticed. Too bad that comedian and tweeter girl didn't have same luck as him, since they got media attention they didn't ask for. Also, Loius CK is able to do that because he is performing in front of audience who understands his humour? You do realise there are millions of people who watch Felixes every day performances? It's the exact same thing. My point is, no one cared or got triggered by a joke, until media decided to try something. Your whole video would only make sense if he got bad response on his video (huge dislike ratio), which he didn't...
@rezoannur2333
@rezoannur2333 7 лет назад
i'm sure some fans were offended
@jamesmalik3355
@jamesmalik3355 7 лет назад
ThEgIGN it's okay to like pewdiepie, but you gotta admit that his humor isn't high quality like professional stand up comedians
@yukitwirly3044
@yukitwirly3044 7 лет назад
It's not really fair to judge Pewdiepie based on the standards of an entirely different genre. He is the King of His Genre, and the typical standup guy or gal could not just start making RU-vid videos and get millions of views.
@angelictear5964
@angelictear5964 7 лет назад
It's stupid to think that *nobody* got offended by it. With over a million people, you think that there's not at least one person who looked at what was said and thought "Wow, this is disgraceful".
@snow4summer515
@snow4summer515 7 лет назад
ThEgIGN THANK YOU finally someone with some common sense
@fascilime
@fascilime 7 лет назад
but pewdiepie also told them to subscribe to keemstar. essentially he is calling keemstar a racist. remember that thing you said about context?
@snow4summer515
@snow4summer515 7 лет назад
I am Bobby and they did look at the like to disslike ratio on the videos
@SaphoraFirebrand
@SaphoraFirebrand 5 лет назад
I think you just described, perfectly, what I have been trying to distinguish for years.
@crescentwil6041
@crescentwil6041 5 лет назад
i love how he says repeating words is bad then repeats them like 10 times
@phoenix_flame2561
@phoenix_flame2561 4 года назад
Welcome to the joke.
@mcslipper8875
@mcslipper8875 3 года назад
@crescent wil r/wwhhhhooooooshhh
@rabidroxy
@rabidroxy 3 года назад
There are many ways to be humiliated on the internet This is definitely 100% one of them
@cadenza23
@cadenza23 7 лет назад
I think what people are missing about the joke is that he was trying to call Keemstar an anti-semite. The message was supposed to look like it was coming from Keemstar. No one ever talks about that...
@sortofafilmmaker7470
@sortofafilmmaker7470 6 лет назад
This comment needs to be pinned or something
@iskrem596
@iskrem596 6 лет назад
Exactly
@aleaf01
@aleaf01 6 лет назад
Arun Mangrulkar yes maybe but he has to make that clearer
@ZoriuFilms
@ZoriuFilms 6 лет назад
this needs to be on top
@ZoriuFilms
@ZoriuFilms 6 лет назад
i dont even watch all the pdpie videos, and when i saw the fiver guys I inmediatly understood what the whole thing was about... really... its not too dificult...
@deathherself5029
@deathherself5029 6 лет назад
Actually UFOs are real, because UFO stands for: unidentified flying object. So, by meaning, UFOs are real.
@levihuerta9393
@levihuerta9393 6 лет назад
I knew it....
@cld1472
@cld1472 6 лет назад
UFO's exist until they dont exist. AKA it is only unidentified until it is identified. So UFOs are only real for periods of time.
@deathherself5029
@deathherself5029 6 лет назад
cld1472 yep. The object counts as unidentified until it is identified. It is a UFO until it isn’t.
@cld1472
@cld1472 6 лет назад
Schrodinger's law would state that a UFO both exists and does not exist at the same time. As until it is identified it is a UFO but at the same time before it is identified it is identified until it is identified. Basically it is what it is far before anyone knows what it is so it is never actually unidentified. For example in the palm of my hand is something, what it is you have no idea but what it is never changes so it is known before it is known and once it is known to you then you accept it to be the object in question.
@deathherself5029
@deathherself5029 6 лет назад
cld1472 this reply has confused and made perfect sense to me at the same time. That means you did a good job.👍🏻
@kazpaapzak8637
@kazpaapzak8637 Год назад
I reckon edgy jokes are ok if you're comfortable saying the joke in front of the minority your using in your joke or you are from that minority, in which case you're making a joke about yourself. For instance Jewish people are hard to make jokes about because people have made so many jokes about them, so they don't laugh at jokes about Jewish people much. Basically you have to be good at making jokes. Like actually good.
@sadgegowey5780
@sadgegowey5780 3 года назад
This was actually the first time I heard about this pewds vs wall at journal drama. Thank you matpat.
@CoffeeMan678
@CoffeeMan678 5 лет назад
That’s all fine but mensural cycle jokes are never ok. Period.
@gennbenn
@gennbenn 5 лет назад
Just A Bro just suck it up
@hopoffmydick9574
@hopoffmydick9574 5 лет назад
Genesis Aguilar lmao you missed the point
@jamsprinkles3881
@jamsprinkles3881 5 лет назад
Genesis Aguilar suck.. What... Up exactly?
@Corrarat
@Corrarat 5 лет назад
@@gennbenn r/whoosh
@christina286
@christina286 5 лет назад
Uh-😂
@generalcheshire1136
@generalcheshire1136 7 лет назад
I doesn't matter how good a joke is or how much effort you put into telling it....someone WILL get offended. That's the sad truth.
@me5ng3
@me5ng3 7 лет назад
because we are surrounded by a bunch of pussies that won't bitch about REAL FUCKING PROBLEMS, but instead, will bitch about shitty jokes made by RU-vidrs on fucking RU-vid. OMG. I can't believe we live in a world like this. Grow a pair and make a video on fucking global warming or something, not on fucking PewDiePie.
@NecroAsphyxia
@NecroAsphyxia 7 лет назад
Brian They literally sued HT for a shirt saying Einey Meanie Miney Moe because it is "racist"
@stevenmora8683
@stevenmora8683 7 лет назад
its just that everyone is a sensitive pussy
@Kunoichi4ever4
@Kunoichi4ever4 7 лет назад
true tho Felix whether he likes it or not became a celebrity to some extent so he will get his ass stalked and judged for everything...I think the media is shitty, but I also think that Felix is not an idiot so he should have known that if pl get a chance to get a lot of money for defaming a stranger they will take it 9/10 times....and he gave them a juici story on a silver platter problematic enough that even WSJ could use it and act like it s a solif fact. He could have avoided it really easily....is the media wrong ? yes...but is that sth new? no...so I think Felix shouldn t act so surprised, it s actually a miracle he doesnt have paparazzi on his ass since he has a solid following to make his private life interesting to media. And all fo this for what? for a problematic not even funny joke...I like Felix, but he s not 15 he should have known what he can gain with this joke and what he could lose, and I see no way in which he could have geained more then lose with those vids ...
@EMan753
@EMan753 7 лет назад
True. I mean, at its heart, comedy requires a "victim", be it a subject or person. A person or idea has to be laughed *at*, and that always results in someone being offended if they can't handle that. :/
@therealvitamind69
@therealvitamind69 5 лет назад
Other parts of circle=web theory and book theory
@connerd5647
@connerd5647 5 лет назад
this didnt age well with the louis ck commentary
@jayjacob3789
@jayjacob3789 5 лет назад
17:23 why is comic sans written in papyrus font? . . . Oh I get it . . . It's a Ness joke
@SprinklesIsGamer
@SprinklesIsGamer 4 года назад
What kind of boomer talk is this
@digitalsleeper9681
@digitalsleeper9681 4 года назад
Nerd
@themcusbiggestfan3210
@themcusbiggestfan3210 4 года назад
you wanna have a bad time?
@iamkulit1cs735
@iamkulit1cs735 3 года назад
NGL this is real funny
@elanvarun7921
@elanvarun7921 3 года назад
Sans is wd gaster is papyrus is ness confirmed!!!
@calamitoussquid8110
@calamitoussquid8110 5 лет назад
I appreciate your perspective. The way I understood the rape joke hypothesis was that if the joke is set up to place the focus of the punchline on the actions of the rapist, it is acceptable, but if the punchline is at the expense of the victim, it is not acceptable. And that hypothesis makes sense to me. By that hypothesis, the same punchline Pewdiepie used could be acceptable if set up in a context to mock Nazis, but without it being used as proof of Nazi stupidity or something, it is instead a punchline at the expense of the victims.
@monkeyman4015
@monkeyman4015 2 года назад
So towards the rape joke ideology the 9/10 people enjoy gang rape follows that rule set and focuses not on the victim but the actions?
@sarthakmohanty997
@sarthakmohanty997 2 года назад
EXACTLY !!!! Punching up and not punching down
@Groggle7141
@Groggle7141 2 года назад
There shouldn't be rules on comedy. Anything can be funny since it's all in good fun. You would die if you went in reddit.
@jojoyayathereal
@jojoyayathereal Год назад
@@monkeyman4015 what do you mean
@DaybreakPT
@DaybreakPT Год назад
@@jojoyayathereal "9/10 people enjoy gang rape" implies the 10th person is being raped by the other 9. As for if that is an acceptable joke or not, I believe the punchline is at the expense of the victim still and so it is not funny, because if you laugh at it, it will make you feel like a bad person.
@rancidcowboy
@rancidcowboy 3 года назад
I understand that this was a long time ago but now that I'm more educated I think I can actually say something on this topic. I have been a fan of Felix's for years now, and I remember this incident. I didnt have an opinion but now I do. I think yes it was insensitive of him to do this and he could've just not posted the video but I also see that he was trying to make a joke. the difference between an actual joke and just saying degrading things and then saying it's a joke when you get called out are huge it's also not my place to forgive him. I'm not Jewish
@rancidcowboy
@rancidcowboy 3 года назад
also everyone is different some jokes will be ok for a group of people but not ok for others. I honestly just really wish we could pull our heads out of our asses and just accept other people for being different.
@zephyrgarrettson6473
@zephyrgarrettson6473 3 года назад
oh man that louis ck joke about rape really takes a whole new meaning after the #metoo movement
@baka_4615
@baka_4615 3 года назад
that louis ck joke would have triggered so many ppl if he said it very recently
@myloriv
@myloriv 3 года назад
And the allegations against him...
@batyaforsyth5711
@batyaforsyth5711 3 года назад
I was just scrolling in the comments until I found a comment talking about it, you are so right
@Panda-jj2kd
@Panda-jj2kd 2 года назад
@@myloriv fr? oh how the tables have turned
@craigyeah1052
@craigyeah1052 2 года назад
@@baka_4615 Well cultural context is a thing comedians need to be aware of too.
@itaintoveryeti9444
@itaintoveryeti9444 7 лет назад
So your logic is essentially, "If I don't like the joke, its not a joke". Oh, Ok.
@umber6937
@umber6937 7 лет назад
Kekistani Refugee your PFP is amazing.
@kicsnasdc
@kicsnasdc 7 лет назад
Kekistani Refugee No, the point was: This wasnt caused because of Felixs joke being racist. This was caused because of Felixs racist joke being shitty
@skylarrose3799
@skylarrose3799 7 лет назад
The same goes for something like a compliment. If someone says something with the intention of speaking highly about someone's qualities, but the receiver does not see it that way, then it isn't a compliment on the receiving end, no matter how the speaker meant it. If someone says a joke and it's not funny to you, the whole point of a joke is to be funny, so if it is not funny, it's not a joke to you, even with someone's intention of making you laugh. It's all about how it's received.
@murhgghug8710
@murhgghug8710 7 лет назад
Considering a lot of people found it funny, and it wasn't criticized until the media got involved, i think it was a pretty good joke.
@wrnb2126
@wrnb2126 7 лет назад
Kekistani Refugee Yep,if it goes over 45% dislike,it's hatefull
@KittyingCaytie
@KittyingCaytie 7 лет назад
MatPat's next video: Why Idubbbz is racist.
@Toneee.
@Toneee. 7 лет назад
idubbbbz isnt racist fam
@inferno7181
@inferno7181 7 лет назад
eErm thAtSh noT a jokE. ThAT haS n0 sEtup Turn OR punchLINE.
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 7 лет назад
AnthonyS627 You missed the point of the joke. Just like Mat.
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 7 лет назад
inferno The setup was Mat's video.
@bezzio2Film
@bezzio2Film 7 лет назад
Funny that guy who make PC content tell other how to make Non PC content....
@yznor
@yznor 5 лет назад
George Carlin believed that was possible to joke about everything, I miss him
@huslerbling
@huslerbling 4 года назад
3:09 LMAO that Jim Halpert face
@tori4770
@tori4770 3 года назад
haha
@magentamoth621
@magentamoth621 5 лет назад
A punchline? Aw i can't belive you've done this.
@noahkra
@noahkra 7 лет назад
HE CHANGED THE TITLE. It said "teaching pewdiepie how to avoid a racist controversy" before. (yes I looked that up on the way back machine)
@Hodoss
@Hodoss 7 лет назад
I noticed that too. I guess he realized the previous title was patronizing. I still don't agree with the new one. Joke didn't backfire. WSJ defamation backfired. Felix was baiting for the press to take him out of context again. He may have lost a few feathers in the process, but now that he holds them, he should pummel the fuckers into the ground.
@TaysanGalovu
@TaysanGalovu 7 лет назад
+Hodoss true actually
@MM-vs2et
@MM-vs2et 7 лет назад
Nope, you are lying, the most recent capture was on March 1st, and it still the same
@ryanzephyr3417
@ryanzephyr3417 7 лет назад
That's because of how arrogant and patronizing he is
@masonengel2027
@masonengel2027 6 лет назад
L
@Kyuuchiuga-ql5fn
@Kyuuchiuga-ql5fn 5 лет назад
Applesauce Didn't pause, just changed playback speed to 0.25x 😎
@twxtimbot2316
@twxtimbot2316 5 лет назад
IM SO ANGRY!!!! that I don't watch this sooner
@hikkomatsu8328
@hikkomatsu8328 5 лет назад
why
@stoner2250
@stoner2250 4 года назад
Wdym ._.
@patrickstar796
@patrickstar796 4 года назад
I’m the 69th like ;))))
@kalebpowell7942
@kalebpowell7942 4 года назад
HAHA misleading
@Spy13194
@Spy13194 3 года назад
I'm Angy my stugiii hurt
@GIGamer-ow8on
@GIGamer-ow8on 7 лет назад
Calling Pewdiepie a Nazi is like calling a pianist a racist for not using the black and white keys equally.
@jinpaperr
@jinpaperr 7 лет назад
G.I. Gamer This makes no sense nor is equivalent to each other. Good try for 5% Effort tho.
@jinpaperr
@jinpaperr 7 лет назад
frack pack well Jew isn't a race it's a religion, so calling him a race wouldn't make no sense :-). But he is a bigot and idiot
@SleepyGummino
@SleepyGummino Год назад
True. It's unbelievable how stupid people can be.
@jonathandahlberg437
@jonathandahlberg437 7 лет назад
There's something you're missing, MatPat. Literally the only people standing against PewDiePie is the mainstream media. His audience, h3h3 (who happen to be jewish), jacksepticeye (he regretted what he said in the video) and even The Amazing Atheist is on his side, despite saying he doesn't like him. I don't understand why you call out PewDiePie's joke as being bad and not working when no one is offended by it. The mainstream media want attention, they're not *actually* offended by his jokes. Some of the journalists of the WSJ article have even been exposed of doing these kind of jokes themselves. When you *should* be supporting PewDiePie and calling out mainstream media, you're doing the complete opposite.
@adoptdontshop3911
@adoptdontshop3911 7 лет назад
Jonathan Dahlberg He didn't say that the joke was bad but how this mess could have been avoided.
@Mr12Relic
@Mr12Relic 7 лет назад
Aaliyah Smith There's no amount of proper setup to avoid this. PewDiePie ironically sat down in front of a Hitler speech like, "Yep, this is totally normal for me, ya got me, i'm a Nazi" and the media took THAT SCENE out of context, using it as "evidence" against him.
@YayaFeiLong
@YayaFeiLong 7 лет назад
PewDiePie did kind of screw up, acually, but the media blew it _way_ out of proportion.
@pugcarter780
@pugcarter780 7 лет назад
Jonathan Dahlberg even if no one else is offended matpat still has the right to be offended. You can be offended even if no one else is offended.
@android19willpwn
@android19willpwn 7 лет назад
doing the opposite? He's stated quite clearly that he thinks the backlash is way out of proportion. The thing is, the joke WAS bad and DIDN'T work, and that's what opened the doors for this whole thing. So it's worthwhile to take a minute to understand why.
@frupple223
@frupple223 3 года назад
0:35 , these sound effects are giving me serious Undertale flashbacks.
@ricochet0928
@ricochet0928 4 года назад
This is why I support the mentality of "anything can be made fun of". If someone gets offended, that's just kinda whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's not my fault that I have a dark sense of humor, and it's not their fault that they don't.
@kalebpowell7942
@kalebpowell7942 4 года назад
How do you make that emoticon
@ricochet0928
@ricochet0928 4 года назад
@@kalebpowell7942 I just go to Google and search for "shrug emoji". It should come up in the first result
@kalebpowell7942
@kalebpowell7942 4 года назад
Thanks
@ricochet0928
@ricochet0928 4 года назад
@@kalebpowell7942 No problem 👍
@Kai-iy3kk
@Kai-iy3kk 3 года назад
69th like 😏
@OjamaIndigo
@OjamaIndigo 7 лет назад
11:06 But PewDiePie was a character on South Park!
@zachery8928
@zachery8928 7 лет назад
X naM ageM Reversed that...is a valid point
@jamesmeow3039
@jamesmeow3039 7 лет назад
X naM ageM Reversed GG
@Daniel-ys8xf
@Daniel-ys8xf 7 лет назад
he was not a character on South Park..... his video virtual face was in an episode, that does not make him a character...... they did draw a whole character called pewdiepie
@pctoast1805
@pctoast1805 3 года назад
Wonder how the world is viewing that Louis ck joke now
@ItzDivij34
@ItzDivij34 2 года назад
Dude at this time they hade live sub counts and pewds had 50 mil. The good old days
@ChrisBryer
@ChrisBryer 7 лет назад
No, those jokes were funny.
@kurlykayla9013
@kurlykayla9013 7 лет назад
Not really. But I guess it depends on who you ask.
@ArcHelios117
@ArcHelios117 7 лет назад
"Funny", "not funny". Highly personal, partial and subjective conclusion.
@hieple4164
@hieple4164 7 лет назад
Subjective! Those jokes might be funny to Pewd's subcribers because they've been following him for a long time. But even so, the way he present them was extremely poorly, WHICH Pewdiepie himself acknowledge it and apologize for it.
@ArcHelios117
@ArcHelios117 7 лет назад
+Hiep Le First of all, I didn't even know him before this. Just that he was a famous RU-vidr, but never saw ANY of his videos. Then, yes, whether you believe it or not, what you find funny or not is subjective. You might find something funny that another person won't. For example, to me the best jokes are from dark humor. Jokes about jews, arabs, migrants, religions, wars, fat people blacks and blahblahblah. You prefer jokes about another topic ? Fine ! And to finish, he has to apologize because he's a public figure.Or famous. "If you want to know who is in charge, look for those you can not criticize", remember ? This "case" is a (nother) perfect example of this sentence.
@Gonflosca
@Gonflosca 7 лет назад
This isn't what actually happened... 1.- Jesus speech wasn't something he paid for. He FOUND that video. 2.- This Tyron guy did that on his own. Pewdiepie clearly said that the guy made it by himself, mocking him. 3.- Really curious how you found the address of the fiver guys. 4.- Complaining about the $500 and starting the video by sayin how rich he is... Obviously you need a sarcasm detector. 5.- If he wouldn't have uploaded the video, media would've found it anyways and since it would've been hiden, no one could've defended him due to how suspicious it might be. I have more to say about your video... Actually enough to make a 20mins video about your "theory", gaine all that sweet watch time out of your "logical conversation". And, of course, at the end I'd beg for subscribers.
@Tocaraca
@Tocaraca 7 лет назад
Dude it's not exactly how HE himself thinks, but what he knows other people think and react about this stuff, based on evidence. Don't attack matpat please
@vixyleo4873
@vixyleo4873 7 лет назад
Tocaraca the man spent god knows how many minutes crying a about trolls and fanboys and let's not forget about the for honor video not attacking mat pat just saying he fallen from grase kinder like air line planes
@ZebulonZ
@ZebulonZ 7 лет назад
Ok this is enough Everyone keeps talking about this video about Matpat crying about trolls and fanboys but WHERE IS IT?? I'm goin nuts please help!
@thehatohyeahyeah5141
@thehatohyeahyeah5141 7 лет назад
AND HERES THE REASON WHY WATCHMOJO .com IS LAME HES USEING OTHERS PEOPLES REACTIONS AS AN EXCUSED IF HE USES HIS OWN MIND INSTEAD OF OTHERS AND MAKE HIS OWN OPINION MAYBE I WOUDENT BE RANTING!
@unfunny5928
@unfunny5928 7 лет назад
Dude, I love 10 minute ad revenue!
@emmahammond9670
@emmahammond9670 Год назад
THE IRONY of Louis C.K. making a r*pe joke.
@Maya-ph7ds
@Maya-ph7ds 3 года назад
when matpat was describing memes and said "dabbing, wazzup, legend 27" i physically cringed and cursed at myself for forgetting this video was posted in 2017.
@lardinal2413
@lardinal2413 2 года назад
2016/2017 memes are awesome
@fred2995
@fred2995 7 лет назад
I think people should be able to joke about whatever they want. Fuck peoples feelings. If they don't like it, they can stop listening
@jasonuy6129
@jasonuy6129 7 лет назад
Screaming Saiyan fuck people's feelings. Do you even hear yourself? If you don't want to be PC, can you at least show empathy?
@fred2995
@fred2995 7 лет назад
Idon't Wanttoshowmyname no I won't show empathy for them. It's sad that a 13 year old kid (me) can handle more then a bunch of adults. They need to grow up
@evan448
@evan448 7 лет назад
Screaming Saiyan fuck empathy seriously get over it it's a joke
@tonroz2766
@tonroz2766 7 лет назад
nothing is forbidden in comedy
@ElijahBagel
@ElijahBagel 7 лет назад
Screaming Saiyan Yes. please. RU-vid listen to Saiyan.
@ghhg-je8wv
@ghhg-je8wv 7 лет назад
Jokes a Joke. Grow a thicker skin. I am Armenian. Make any genocide jokes you like. I won't have a problem with your words unless you actively persuade people to enact genocide. Its not hard, just grow up.
@usof2800
@usof2800 7 лет назад
dead on bro. way to be the bigger man.
@jell0berryroger831
@jell0berryroger831 7 лет назад
gh hg yeah mat pat and the other youtubers are surprising me with how sensitive they are. The joke was not even that funny but it was still just a joke.
@jakeswitzer1522
@jakeswitzer1522 7 лет назад
gh hg You're a legend 👏
@colinhoward8880
@colinhoward8880 7 лет назад
gh hg is anyone else confused by the fact that Pewdiepie got a bunch of hate yet if you go online or other RU-vid videos they make racist jokes but no one really freaks out unless it's a GIANT channel?
@henryalt411
@henryalt411 7 лет назад
gh hg abortions is funny
@MikoTheGamer
@MikoTheGamer 3 года назад
To be honest, someone always gets offended, whatever you do
@joshuajoe1419
@joshuajoe1419 3 года назад
You typed a comment that makes sense! I’m offended.
@frogge4426
@frogge4426 3 года назад
You are correct, I think people just try to break other peoples careers or make new problems cause there life has so little problems.
@VERRATENMEMESANDCOD
@VERRATENMEMESANDCOD 3 года назад
This video will go into dark places. Don't worry I have a flashlight
@fpsgod3028
@fpsgod3028 7 лет назад
There are rules to jokes now?
@Tocaraca
@Tocaraca 7 лет назад
Not which jokes you make, but how you make them. Otherwise people get triggered. That's the sad truth.
@fpsgod3028
@fpsgod3028 7 лет назад
There are rules to how to make jokes now?*
@avasam06
@avasam06 7 лет назад
There are no rules to "just make jokes" if you yourself find it funny. However there are rules, just like in any social communication, if you want them to be taken properly.
@alexsivef849
@alexsivef849 7 лет назад
Not every joke is a funny joke or delievered properly. There's a reason why not everyone is a comedian.
@ProfiteerProphet
@ProfiteerProphet 7 лет назад
Yeah. Kind of. I think for a lot of people going about telling jokes must sound super easy, but comedians have methods and techniques that they employ. You gotta know what IS a joke before you can tell one. Rules derive from definitions. Everything has rules, in a way or another.
@isaacblanco1568
@isaacblanco1568 7 лет назад
obviosly matpat has never gone to the dankmemes subreddit
@beardedalpha4142
@beardedalpha4142 7 лет назад
Isaac Blanco "subreddit" gross
@slenhern
@slenhern 7 лет назад
this!! "subreddit" kek
@Kodakman746
@Kodakman746 7 лет назад
plebbit
@MrBeef-sh3lc
@MrBeef-sh3lc 7 лет назад
or 4chan...
@himehomemi5642
@himehomemi5642 7 лет назад
or /pol/
@verdant1029
@verdant1029 3 года назад
*matpat* says it's triggering *fans* don't listen and end up disliking the video.
@EasyBeesyBeautiful
@EasyBeesyBeautiful 5 лет назад
This video is great. I know I'm watching it forever from when it was released but when I watched Pewdiepie's videos with the two men and sign, I thought he actually didn't think they would do it. I thought he may have been trying to get them to send him a little "How could you ask us to do this?" Message before denying his 5 dollars. I agree, if he thought it was that bad he should have uploaded. Funny that now is 2019 people are still talking about it when we are trying to get pewds to beat t series.
@kovidomi
@kovidomi 7 лет назад
Damn, the internet sure has changed a lot in the last 7-8 years. People who grew up in the 2000's internet have completely different mindset about internet culture than the cringy sjw newcomers who only started browsing the net after smartphones and social networking sites became a big thing. I showed the video to my jew friend who found hilarious that you can pay two asians to hold up a fucked sign while laughing like idiots. Someone who has valid reason to get offended by it found it funny. It really makes you think. I feel that the world has become overly sensitive, especially murica. Noticed that 90% of the people who get triggered are liberal americans who have nothing to do with with the topics at all but shove their noses into them nevertheless because it hurts their "ethics". Also this video has nothing to do with movies, why is it on a channel called The Film Theorists? Trying to cash-in on the PewDiePie topic as well Mat? MatPat confirmed for being a greedy jew it seems.
@the_destroyer1236
@the_destroyer1236 7 лет назад
Cringey newcomers? I'm so offended you are making fun of the group that is people who weren't on the internet until recently (sarcasm)
@AngusKhaw
@AngusKhaw 7 лет назад
The fact that you felt the need to add (sarcasm) just proves OP even more. I feel sad.
@larado5321
@larado5321 7 лет назад
"Film" just sounds better than "video/visual media theory". So no, he's not being greedy since youtube videos can be categorized as "film" as they are videos created for visual entertainment. Just because it's not on tv or the big screen doesn't mean it doesn't belong in that category. That and he was requested by a good portion of us down in the comments to look into it, you know? It says this in the description: "This is one I wanted to cover 1) because many of you were requesting my thoughts and 2) because I think Pewdiepie's situation can teach us all a lot of things about the nature of comedy and how comedy can be a force for good in the world."
@pimpampet1696
@pimpampet1696 7 лет назад
If you think about it, everybody on youtube makes videos for views and money it's their job after all so you really can' t complain about that
@super_shag8685
@super_shag8685 7 лет назад
It never did
@TreyDieterich
@TreyDieterich 7 лет назад
I forget where I heard it but someone once said "if you tell a joke and no one is offended, it's probably not all that funny" because humor is so directly related to pain a lot of the time.
@LimeGreenTeknii
@LimeGreenTeknii 7 лет назад
I'd say every joke is making fun of someone or something, but not to the extreme of hurting them. For example, if you make a self-deprecating joke, are you offending yourself? Or are you just making fun of yourself? When you make a pun, you make fun of the English language, but you're not really offending anyone who uses the language.
@ItsTrueFilms
@ItsTrueFilms 7 лет назад
Anyone should be able to say whatever they want. Its your choice to get offended. If you don't find something funny that's fine but you can't tell others what they can and can't laugh at. Making an offencive joke doesn't violate anyone's rights but limiting what people can say does.
@threepac2687
@threepac2687 7 лет назад
Jaqen H'Ghar Well that's a slippery slope. What offends you might not offend me, and what offends me might not offend you. If they start censoring things left and right, it's a very slippery slope. You are the embodiment of a society that thinks that the government should have control over our mouths. Treat us like children. It's your choice to get offendend. Being offendend is not something that physically hurts you. Comedy is actually a coping skill for many people suffering from mental health problems, why take away they're coping skill if they say a few dark jokes. Dark humor is my favorite. *do you know what offends me? People who want to censor art and creativity!* P.S. No ones opinion is inherently wrong or right, contrary to whatever you think.
@TreyDieterich
@TreyDieterich 7 лет назад
Jaqen H'Ghar idk what your deal is acting like I have some sort of crazy agenda... I just wanted to share that quote because I think it's true to an extent.
@Jaqen-HGhar
@Jaqen-HGhar 7 лет назад
ThreePac "Being offended is not something that physically hurts you." You do realize that stress is EXTREMELY bad for your health (which is physically hurting you) not to mention what it may do to someone with PTSD. So I don't know if you know this but psychological effects do alter Chemicals in your brain such as Oxytocin, Serotonin, Dopamine, and Norepinephrine. It's the whole reason we like jokes in the first place so yes it is a physical thing. Don't speak on things which you do not know. Not to mention when someone say that you harmed them you don't get to decide whether or not it did. You sound like my 10 year old brother who says, "that didn't hurt" when they punch their siblings. That is beside the point because where in anything did I say anything about censoring people or the Government getting involved? You do realize at least in America we have the first amendment that prohibits that right? Well to a point, the Supreme Court has ruled that there are limits to free speech (such as yelling "Fire" in a crowded building or making threats). Still at no point did I say anything about that and you want to talk of slippery slopes. I was talking about a very limited example of specific jokes and even then within context but go ahead and not actually read anything I wrote without overreacting just like half the people who didn't watch this video before making the same comments. Sorry in a free society your rights don't trump the rights of others and if your "coping strategy" affects other people then you need to learn another one since there are many. If my coping strategy to deal with hard problems was to stick people with needles I wouldn't be able to say, "you're taking away my coping strategy all because people are bothered by it. It doesn't even hurt them it's such a small needle!" I still find it funny though that you literally did what I said you were going to do in my comment. "People who try to turn the argument from, "Uhh hey this has always been a problem why are we suddenly letting this become normal?" to "It's about comedy, you're attacking comedy." have ulterior motives or have been watching the youtube videos of people who do. Oh and, "P.S. No ones opinion is inherently wrong or right, contrary to whatever you think." Is bullshit and a subjectivist fallacy. There is no truth for you and truth for me. There is only one truth and it doesn't lie in the middle. Yes one of our opinions is wrong. Just like the flat earthers being wrong and they should be told they're wrong every time they open their mouths about it. They have the freedom to say that they believe that but that doesn't mean I dont' have the freedom to tell them they are stupid. There is a difference between telling someone they are stupid and to shut up because they hold wrong beliefs about something and making fun of someone who went through something traumatic because it is how you get your jollies off. It's not censorship to tell someone when they are wrong. Y'all keep talking and all I hear is, "Wah wah I can't keep my foot on the face of the downtrodden who finally decided to stick up for themselves. I hate being told it's not longer cool to make fun of jews, black people, middle easterners, and all the marginalized groups of society. You know LGTBQ and all the like. I mean if I can shit on people and call it "dark humor" what kind of "jokes' can I make?
@UnprofessionalProfessor
@UnprofessionalProfessor 4 года назад
If they really wanted to bring up a hypocrisy argument against Disney, they'd be better off calling out Song of the South.
@Twocat5side
@Twocat5side 3 года назад
2:30 Bruh matpat wtf he didn't make him do that
@Thebossstage1
@Thebossstage1 7 лет назад
"You're taking the Disney cartoon out of its context" Yeah, imagine taking a joke out in of context acting like it's serious.
@adamrrjensen2680
@adamrrjensen2680 7 лет назад
That is crazy, why would anyone do that?
@leestoichkova
@leestoichkova 5 лет назад
@MatPat You need a third chanel. Something like "Real Theory" or "Life Theory". I can already hera the sound of that, "But, hey, that's just a theory - a Life Theory." And there you can tackle actual topics in the actual world like this one or the one with the Tide pods. Just saying... Edit: for everyone who didn't notice that this was made a year ago, I KNOW THERE'S A THIRD CHANNEL NOW!
@ambrosia7904
@ambrosia7904 5 лет назад
Let's get more ppl behind this. I want this
@lithnis457
@lithnis457 5 лет назад
I agree
@queenWillowwww3893
@queenWillowwww3893 5 лет назад
He did do the tide pod challenge....
@tristanpowell85
@tristanpowell85 5 лет назад
Throw that on the pile. Game theory, film theory, survival theory, nugget theory, and now life theory.
@pjRaging
@pjRaging 5 лет назад
I’d vote for real theory tbh
@jefferyhorton5251
@jefferyhorton5251 Год назад
I have to agree that what Pewds did was wrong and that blaming it on the people he paid to help him make the offensive joke is technically the same thing as a restaurant owner telling his cook to put more chicken (raw chicken) into the pot (full of cooked chicken) or they’ll be fired. It’s not going to end well and it’s a violation of certain guidelines that either make something a safer place or one that will save lives and give people good healthy food. Pewds is just a manager that can’t take responsibility for the hundreds of people who became violently ill. Not okay. And talk about it being something that people should be proud of.
@Minal_Aurapine
@Minal_Aurapine 5 лет назад
To summarize: People are sheep.
@electricpants8194
@electricpants8194 2 года назад
pfft what.
@keiths2902
@keiths2902 5 лет назад
I’ve been discussing with my Swedish friend how humour doesn’t always translate across cultures. I think people assume that because Nordic people generally speak amazing English, and our cultures do share some similarities, that we forget that Sweden and other Nordic countries are still other countries. And there will be cultural differences. I’m not defending these specific instances. To me, the jokes are abrasive. But I *get* the context of it, in the Swedish culture, it’s not offensive. This was a great video, but I feel like we do still need to consider culture. I know that we talk about ”Western” culture a lot, and that lumps in a looooot countries that are very different, but I’ve lived in Finland and America, and they aren’t similar in much. But this video definetly nails how an English audience could think about this.
@gaunthaunt3170
@gaunthaunt3170 Год назад
thats very true, when i moved from sweden to australia i was supprised how important WWII is in western culture, i grew up so isolated from it that it seemed like a joke, even though it happened in Europe it really didnt affect swedes since we didnt fight, i know its a big thing for a lot of us but where i lived it was barley remembered
@Flash_345
@Flash_345 7 лет назад
I found it funny. You didn't. Don't tell me what I should laugh at.
@hb9584
@hb9584 7 лет назад
You shouldn't laugh at hundreds of people being killed right in front of you, is that a fair thing to say?
@Flash_345
@Flash_345 7 лет назад
Yeah when someone dies "in front" of me I go, "Oh my god that's hilarious!". Yesterday there was bomb blast near my little sisters' school, 10 people died. Four similar blasts in the last week. Do you really think I'll give a fuck about nazi jokes?
@SheikhAhmadShah
@SheikhAhmadShah 7 лет назад
But MatPat (I believe he cannot be that dumb) states that it was not funny... Whatever...
@Deapcrash101
@Deapcrash101 7 лет назад
@Sheik You can not scientifically prove a joke is not funny. In fact. All he was saying was, "this joke is offensive there for it can't be funny". It is an idiotic claim, and one that has been made far to many times by unchallenged idiots. Please stop shoveling in everything Mat says and not questioning it for your self.
@nikolakushev8282
@nikolakushev8282 7 лет назад
Just to be clear do you work for the WSJ ?
@jay6893
@jay6893 5 лет назад
This actually reminds me of Danny from Game Grumps! Well the joke and context thing. Danny is very open about being jewish, references it in his comedy music, talks about how his father fought in th Yom Kippor War, ect and will frequently make jew jokes that are actually funny. One in particular is when he and Arin are doing a bit about a shitty sitcom where Danny adds the punchline "Watch my new show coming to ABC ALL JEWS MUST DIE" and I was fucking wheezing but all the context draws back to the fact that most people who know about game grumps know that Danny is jewish. Another good example of a hilarious holocoast joke that I, as a jewish person almost fell on the ground laughing at? Team Four Star's Hellsing Ultimate Abridged had a scene where the villain, a literal nazi, is interrupted in the middle of talking and just responds with "Wow, just kill all the fun. Put the fun in camps, why don't you." Mat Pat's analysis of joke structure made me understand why those jokes are funny to me despite how offensive they might seem.
@cameronjadewallace
@cameronjadewallace 3 года назад
Hey GG fam! I totally agree with all of this. It's exactly why I have the sense of humor I do.
@lordouidward9992
@lordouidward9992 5 месяцев назад
Honestly would like to see matpat revisit this video. Matpat has changed quite a bit in the past 6 years, I'm curious to see if his opinions have changed
@georgie9303
@georgie9303 7 лет назад
*Gotta cash in on the situation somehow*
@luissolis3742
@luissolis3742 7 лет назад
Sheev Palpatine completely agree
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 7 лет назад
*Gotta cash in on the situation while delivering a message somehow*
@888nevik
@888nevik 7 лет назад
Sheev Palpatine OY VEY
@ImperatorAdeptus
@ImperatorAdeptus 7 лет назад
Yeah gotta get those shekels.
@susie8799
@susie8799 7 лет назад
Hey can y'all like not make antisemetic comments, thanks yo
@TheSkaterKat
@TheSkaterKat 7 лет назад
His audience got it. The media (WSJ) just wanted something catchy for clicks and they saw the chance to call him out with an out of context compilation to also try to ruin his career.
@tonyoso1391
@tonyoso1391 7 лет назад
TheSkaterKat holy shit will you pew fans not quit. He said it was wrong for the media to blast him. but he also the joke was not funny and I agree like alot of other people do too. he'll even Felix agrees with that.
@13mizuki1
@13mizuki1 7 лет назад
TheSkaterKat not everyone will get the joke
@ifigi
@ifigi Год назад
this aged so poorly
@sirennexus1675
@sirennexus1675 8 месяцев назад
Cope and seethe. It aged like fine wine.
@lordouidward9992
@lordouidward9992 5 месяцев назад
@@sirennexus1675 nah they right, this aged like spoiled milk.
@rubyyates4778
@rubyyates4778 5 лет назад
17:21 Okay I saw somebody else comment about this but that "Comic Sans" written in the Papyrus font just makes my love for Undertale scream
@seanpeery7780
@seanpeery7780 7 лет назад
MatPat The point of the slander against Disney and others WAS to take them out of context. It was a, 'see how it feels being judged out of context?' kind of attack to show their hypocrisy based on the no context standard.
@SkeletalReality
@SkeletalReality 7 лет назад
Great video as always, but I believe PewDiePie executed the joke just fine. It's just that these journalists will do anything to get people to read their articles by spreading hateful controversy. Like you've said, they don't make money from the articles, they make money from the ads surrounding the articles. Ben Fritz, the journalist who originally made the article against PewDiePie, has had past tweets that hints how he dislikes PewDiePie in general. This was an attempt to make him look bad.
@muffintop8787
@muffintop8787 7 лет назад
finally, an unbiased comment. people here think they can get their point across by spitting out the word "bullshit"
@ollehkacb
@ollehkacb 7 лет назад
MuffinTop a lot of the reasonabke comments were deleted.
@Thesamdeman22
@Thesamdeman22 7 лет назад
Yes - also, the discussion about how repeated phrases can cause people to believe them was so _completely_ misused for the purposes of this video. Examples he cited were about UFO sightings and scientific news coverage; which somehow leads him to believe that the studies make it "scientific fact" that people people seeing the words "Hitler did nothing wrong", causes them to believe it. Been a long time since I had a physical cringe, it's not pleasant.
@Bike_Knight
@Bike_Knight 7 лет назад
so much hate on this vid
@ArtyoumPlays
@ArtyoumPlays 7 лет назад
I think more people would inherently trust the media. To them, sensationalism about flying saucers is actually the affirmation of their existence. The glowing box in the living room would never mislead me for ad revenue
@shreya...007
@shreya...007 3 года назад
Now we need a food theory episode on PewDiePie HOW TO BAKE A PEWDIEPIE.
@TheforeverPigeonKing
@TheforeverPigeonKing 4 дня назад
Basically to sun the whole video up. A punchline without a set up is just a punch
@oh_heckk1766
@oh_heckk1766 7 лет назад
I'm Jewish and i found it hilarious. I disagree with your opinion but I'll just shove it under the rug and still watch you.
@mika-zz5lo
@mika-zz5lo 7 лет назад
EpicGames 10 And that's how you disagree properly
@tristodudes101
@tristodudes101 7 лет назад
just because you didnt find it offensive doesnt mean everyone else wont either
@Pharo_Is_Dead
@Pharo_Is_Dead 7 лет назад
+Le Funk jokes are jokes. grow up. I'm black and i wouldn't survive a DAY on the internet if i couldn't take a race joke
@tristodudes101
@tristodudes101 7 лет назад
Lemon Grab I myself am not offended by asian jokes (I'm chinese) but I don't go shouting in the streets racists comments. I know my example doesn't reflect the Pewds situation I'm just saying everyone has a different sense of humour.
@tristodudes101
@tristodudes101 7 лет назад
In fact I'm 100% on Pewds side but I agree with Matpat as well on saying the delivery matters
@Rattlewings
@Rattlewings 7 лет назад
I think the difference between Louis CK's joke and Daniel Tosh's is also that Tosh's joke was a personal attack on a specific person, maybe even a victim. But Louis' joke was about the subject of rape, not the victims of rape.
@kalibalsaeid9137
@kalibalsaeid9137 7 лет назад
And CK's joke was made in 2006, far before all this PC, SJW stuff popped up
@cidevant002
@cidevant002 7 лет назад
Tosh was just an asshole. Louis obviously thought on what he is saying. I think comedy can be a great weapon to make changes and make people think, but that is never going to happen if people keep thinking "being edgy" (saying whatever wrong thing they want to have attention) is comedy. It isn´t. They are just kids trying to be edgy.
@iamarchibald
@iamarchibald 4 года назад
This reminds me of the last “the it crowd” episode.
@mr.ismailbelli
@mr.ismailbelli 4 года назад
a bad joke isn't a crime
@alexknight4403
@alexknight4403 7 лет назад
Mat, get off your high horse. Dark and offensive comedy doesn't have any rules or guidelines. They're funny because they're taboo and shocking, not because people think it's acceptable. Hell, even Tosh made a funny joke, i would've laughed my ass off. Don't act like you're this comedy scientist and know how it works. The only thing laughable about this video is how serious you are. Political correctness is an issue that gets worse every year, had he said ANYTHING anti-semitic or racist there would have been pitchforks. Plus, people want to see him fail and do anything to attack him.
@festigeo1
@festigeo1 7 лет назад
I agree i just think some people have a fear that things will eventually get to a point where people will actually just spew out whatever hatred and bigotry they want to and then just claim that it's "dark humor" or "just a joke". Fear tends to rule the lives of a lot of people nowadays... whether it's the fear of being taking over by an overly PC culture or the fear of being surrounded by a bunch of hate being covered by the veil of "comedy"
@alexknight4403
@alexknight4403 7 лет назад
If people are just being assholes and trying to disguise it as comedy, which Pewdiepie wasn't, then it's fine to astrocise them for their behavior. On the other hand, as you stated, there is a fear of things being overly censored, where no jokes can be even slightly controversial, which personally I'm more worried about as that gets closer and closer to becoming reality.
@eimhinduffy5736
@eimhinduffy5736 7 лет назад
Daddy Hylian but the entire point of the video is saying controversial jokes are good and great for comedy but that they just need to be good jokes and that if they fall flat people shouldn't get offended by them
@nix6940
@nix6940 7 лет назад
He was explaining why it received backlash, not that he agreed with it. This was an analysis piece, not an opinion.
@ethanbrick7361
@ethanbrick7361 7 лет назад
Daddy Hylian he's fucking showing you how to avoid backlash
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