Hot tip When Mark says I shouldn't reccomend this on RU-vid its a good shot idea. Not speaking from experience... But having the low wheel turning shot is super nice and provides an angle that catches most peoples attention.
A useful tip with this projection technique (if you don't have a massive projection wall many meters from your car, like they do in the big features) is to also throw the projector focus slightly out -- if the projected image is slightly soft it'll help you use wider lenses closer to the subject and still sell depth in the background. Awesome tutorial Mark with top results. Thanks for sharing.
Just wow!!! I think I’ve said it before, but your channel is such a gem. I love how you show us how to do the technical stuff that’ll add value to our work. 😃
I'm not sure, but that particular detail always bugged me in the show. All the production design was so rich, I don't see why they would screw up things in that car scenes. So I guess that was probably intentional indeed.
i was gonna comment that same thing, it is def a nod to that era of effects back then... actually as i write this if it truly was green screen then they were just cheap cuz in that era it would have been a screen and projector, projecting the image rather than a green screen so maybe they were just cheap
I thought so too. I think those guys knew what they were doing on Mad Men, 99% of people won't notice it wasn't filmed on the road, but it gives 100% of people the vintage feel
I have used this technique in photography for many years. Using a projector in this way has been around for a long time andnd now we see the evolution of this process in the mandalorian.
truly amazing and well demonstrated, I hope creators like you never feel the burden to cause you to stop this work. (again, your Rescata project is amazing.)
Such an incredibly helpful video Mark! I thought this was impossible to pull off on a small budget! Looking forward to trying this out at some point. You ROCK
Nice work Mark! I feel the frontal closeups at 3.43 looked much more authentic than the side shots. Reason for this being the side shots, the actor seems to be ever so slightly too lit compared to the plate outside. When you're driving through a city at night, the outside should usually be brighter than the inside of the car or at least be on the same level. Also the color temperature seems too cold compared to the mostly warm sodium vapor of the bg plate. Just my two cents of things to improve. Love your channel mate!
@@user-mc9tp1we1i Back in the day, the 'Poor man process' was a common way of doing it. If you weren't around or haven't seen a lot of old movies you may not realize how it looked. And in turn may not realize how intentionally they were trying to recreate this look in a show like Madmen.
@@markbone No problem. I just got myself a BMPCC 4K and a Smallrig rig, top handle, SSD mount, follow focus, etc to try my hand at film (my focus is usually photography.) I've spent A LOT of time watching your videos lately to try to absorb as much as I can. You're a beast! Thanks again. Keep making great content for us please?
@@pureangeles I just got my Tilta Mini Follow Focus yesterday. If you remove the hard stops, it's great. Been playing around with it all day yesterday and today. And from the research i've done I'd recommend the Weebill S or Moza Air 2.
Brilliant video - thanks for sharing your knowledge Mark. The footage looks so good! And dropping the truth bombs there with the "people who are doing less film-making have a nicer space around them"! ; )
Tried this approach, and ran into the hiccup of the projector just not being bright enough to achieve a believable look. I could hear Mark's words in my head, "Test the set up before you actually go out and film for the project"; our production was tight and our deadline to shoot came quickly, giving us little time for camera prep. The car footage turned into a multi day workload rottoscoping all of our car footage to save the scene we shot & something of a post production hell. Definitely test & your projector before you show up on set! Also recommend bringing a green screen as a back up on set just and case (we tried project a green screen when the footage didn't show up bright enough.. this also didn't work)
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No matter how perfect you set up your projection and lighting if movement of camera (up & down ) is not synced with natural car movements (up & down) it will give that impression of being in a studio.
To make the process of moving the projection footage easier and less frustrating, it would be a lot more straight forward just to use a 360 cam and play it back in a 360 player so you actually cannot notice on set that a perspective of your background footage is missing. Just a thought, didn't actually try it and there might be some flaws, I just didn't consider ^^
Another fantastic video. Question. With these projectors, or if using a large monitor for close up rear projection, do we have to worry about the projected video’s frame rate or frequency matching the frame rate of the camera filming the projected background, say 24 fps?
That’s a real good question! I might have to get back to you about that because it wasn’t something I even thought about when filming this scene. (It might be worth some tests!)
I prob won't ever have to shoot a shot like this, but the technicalities were really interesting. Lot's going on to make a scene like that go smoothless, and esp w a low budget, there's a lot to learn.
You should make a mini series of you breaking down the cinematography in famous movies! I’d love to see your opinion on Parasite and other big productions. Also, where can we watch your documentaries?
Hey man, love this video. I'm preparing to give this method a go and am trying to figure out how to get sharper bokeh from the projected image. They tend to come out quite soft but I wonder if it's simply a case of projector brightness or back projection material. What are your thoughts?
It mostly will have to do with the lens and f-stop that you choose, so if you want more of the BG in focus then shoot on the wider end of a zoom lens and shoot above f5 and also bring the projector in closer. Materials won't really matter. make sure your projector lens is also in focus
@@markbone I can get the size of the bokeh and depth of field fine but just not the clarity of bokeh on specular highlights. I can see this is also the case in your video when you compare the real car shots and fake backdrop.
Wow that was so interesting! I didn't think it was that accessible to film a car scene! Thank you! I'm wondering if there is a specific reason why you shot it outside or could have it been done in a dark garage for example? Many thanks Mark :)
