Final Bakugo vs Shoto Todoroki - My Hero Academia Explained 

right, I don't think their combustion works on the same principal, also worth considering if phosphorus has a limit to the fire it can cancel, I can imagine Bakugou powering through since technically all of his body sweat is fuel, seems like phosphorus just brakes the chain reaction on an existing flame but Bakugou can constantly try to oxidize his nitro sweat 🤔

which weakens his quirk, of course

@@reigen. yes it does weaken the quirk, but he only needs to make a couple of explosions to warm back up. Explosions aren't Luke warm.

@@bonerpants7203 His weaker explosions, yes.

@@reigen. yes and no not even his weaker explosions are luke warm. They just don't last long enough to transfer as much heat. Similar to how you can run your finger through a flame without Bruning it, if the blast doesn't last long enough to transfer the heat you can get away without burns. This doesn't mean the explosio itself is not hot.

But would he be able to release said items if frozen in place?? He’d literally have to be holding those items already.

@@DwyneOverstreet he’d only have to free a hand, or already been sweating just a little bit before being frozen to be able to do this. I’d imagine as he is getting frozen he’d prepare his hand where it needed to be or something. That’s his battle IQ coming into play. I’d say it’s very plausible to think he’d be able to escape.

Chemical explosions are a bit different than just fire. I don’t even think this phosphorus thing will stop his explosions past just freezing him.

@Jaidon Thomas bakugo broke through “unbreakable air” is the cavalry battle, so I just don’t think Ice, which is prone to failure after the least bit is cracked or damaged, would hold him in. Even if he would have to sacrifice his gauntlet to do so, I think it would be enough to enable him to do more to get out.

Shouto: MOMO! I need a slingshot! Momo: What? Shouto: A SLINGSHOT, Momo! Momo: Um, okay, and whats this for? Shouto: Just trust me! *various explosions occur with Bakugou laughing maniacally* Momo: ....do not, under any circumstances, tell Aizawa where you got that sling from.

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When tf you are talking about and you can't trust author's word. You know what happened in aot and what isayama said. Whatever in the manga is canon.

@@denji3397 you can’t trust the person who created the character that’s weird

Source?

@@BriBrando source: i made it up

@@gameonln6077 "Nice one Senator, however, I'm going to need some source"

real

Currently.... he dead

@@gryfon_gamez8184 He obviously means Final Bakugo, not Dead bakugo.

Baku couldn't damage shigaraki he was just able to surprise shigaraki with his speed

@@izukumidoriya-qg8lu katsuki injured tomura with howitzer cluster. Surprised or not it still hurt him

@@ghost4439 it didn't hurt him at all it didn't even come close that's why shigaraki was making fun of him he literally walked through it a proceeded to break bakugous arm as you can see in the manga currently no one has been able to damage shigaraki

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He has a singular quirk not 2.

@@invictus6176 which actually is 2 quirks since rei and enji's quirks aren't fused but they are in shoto as seperate sides. However shoto can now fuse them together

@@denji3397 no. It’s literally one quirk why tf does everyone think it’s two??? That doesn’t even make sense if it’s split down the middle. Bakougous quirk for instance Is another case of quirks fusing together to make a more powerful quirk yet nobody calls his two quirks, it’s been established time and time again that the only two quirks in the verse that have or hold multiple quirks is Afo and Ofa, the rest are all experimenting like the Nomus, or Afo transferring a secondary quirk

Just started using his fire quirk? Nah in the series a year should've passed by now

Todoroki oneshot weakened shigaraki in the first war arc

He didn’t even damage him though

@@invictus6176If you look at current Shiggy notice how his face still hasnt healed from Bakugos Howitzer Impact Cluster. And he missed his awakened shot but I imagine it worried Shiggy thus his rage when he killed him.

@@haydenmanchester8085 You're omitting context. He did that with the help of Nejire.

@@devinbaldon5937 They both did it but Shiggy acknowledges Shoto's quirk as strong. He just doesn't know how to use it at full potential.

They're not relative, Shoto has slightly better AP but bakugo can spam attacks and could use his moves way faster then shoto can let off, nothing would land

more like sakura as of recently lol

and even if shoto was a lot more powerful he doesn't have the speed to dodge or defend from bakugo spamming attacks

I totally agree

Todo is probably around big 3 level. Tamaki takes him. Nejire takes him. Mirio takes him. But bakugo and deku scale to all might levels. The ppl who don't see it are just kinda slow 😅

True

bro took full on slams from all might, which even deku who was used to the backlash of all for one was being tossed around by, bakugou can definitely tank

@@Starlight9544_ yeah but shoto doesn't just need to win with force thats the difference, he can either freeze you or burn you

Um, Bakugo tanked a building level attack from Shiggy at the beginning of the fight...

@@419er he took that hit, threw up, and Deku did the rest lol. Shoto took deku at full force and kept going. Plus training since a kid with Endeavor and taking his punches. Again it's Shoto who tanks hits

Bro the trio wld stomp. Bakugo and deku is all thats rlly needed

My theory Jeanist either gives Bakugo his heart & Katsuki finally gets that Trip Wire Ability or Jeanist repairs the muscle fibers and Mirio gets Bakugo's heart pumping again by taking him to Kaminari. Long story short Bakugo is going to pull a Kuwabara from Spirit Detective. Main character believes he's dead, but really he's not.

I think that Jeanist would use the givers to save Bakugo, but he wouldn’t be able to use his explosions anymore as it risks his heart to explode, similar to A-train in The Boys

@@scrbroadcast trip wire ability? what do you mean

@@Starlight9544_ Can Best Jeanist give his quirk factor to Bakugo by giving Bakugo his heart? It's head canon, but if One For All can be passed through hair, could other quirks? I don't believe that question has ever been asked or rebuked outright in the canon of the story.

@@scrbroadcast nono i was asking what the trip wire ability is, feel free to explain in full detail

Ur acting as if shigaraki is a slow character shoot wouldn't last a second against him

Bakugo is way way faster than Iida now

Bakugo

I mean he caught on speed of shigi in injured state

Now even a match.. Bakugou is way faster

if bakugou is stronger than shoto it's because the author wants him to be there really isn't any other reason...

@@miiamidblu u can literally say that for any character tho💀

@@Vaughxn I mean by the logic of the rules hori or any other sets out. in world or real world logic be damned.

@@miiamidblu bakugo makes better grades than shoto.. bakugo has a better quirk tbh. For example bakugo is super fast cuz of his quirk and can make smokescreen lol and fly. Thats already matching 2 of dekus quirks with his 1.. endeavour dabi shoto can kinda fly with their quirk but they have horrible mobility in the air lol. I can go on all day. Think abt the joint training arc. Bakugo and deku got perfect scores.... what did shoto get? Except a concussion 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Not at all, nitroglycerin has all it needs as itself, no needed oxygen or anything, it just explodes when Bakugo wants it to so long as its on him

I was wondering the same thing 💀

Shoto's mainly of a powerhouse with good defense, but Bakugo is a Powerhouse with offense and A LOT of speed

Very easy lol. Meanwhile todoroki is struggling against half dead dabi 🥴

@@backing5284 who is stronger than endeavor please spare me bakugo isn’t doubt to afo what endeavor is doing and dabi will literally incinerate he has zero protection against him

@@timadethis dabi has no speed feats and struggled against tokoyami.. and geten... bakugou speed blitz current shigaraki. Lol bakugo stomps dabi one shot.

@@backing5284 you have said close to zero about however I can see how backugo dead body can bring the emotion out

@@timadethis also dabi is not stronger than endeavour lmaoooo he just has hotter fire. He lacks durability. Speed. Experience. Technique endeavour is stronger is everyway besides temperature

Why does Bakugo have higher durability? Why are people forgetting that one of Bakugo's problem is that he breaks his arms. He can't do infinite Howitzer Impacts that's why he carries all those extra equipments.

Or even Hax? Or Strength? Why would strength matter when they're always going to be using their quirks?

@@ebrimajallow3165 Manga Bakugou got injured so much but despite all of that he still managed to out speed many pro heroes. He only dropped when his heart got destroyed.

@@ebrimajallow3165 Strength matters even without quirks

@@komishouko98 we're using that to categorize Bakugo over Todoroki who has been shown to tank more things due to his toddler training and other fights. Bakugo sustained one hit and that was when he got his hand shatter and half his face injured. Shiggy was literally toying with him. Picked him up by the toes. He could've killed him at any point. All that damage came from one hit from a Shiggy that wasn't even trying. The second hit killed him. I wouldn't count that as great durability. If it was more, than 1 or 2 hits then sure, it would be impressive but it was a massacre. Todoroki should have more durability and even in terms of the use of their quirks. Todoroki can use his for longer because he wouldn't have any side effects but Bakugo can injure his arms or die from his quirk. And what hax does Bakugo have over Todoroki's hax? If anything the last thing I mentioned about Todoroki not have weaknesses from using his quirk is a hax that Bakugo doesn't have. Strength? At what point will they need their physical strength? Will Aizawa pop up and cancel their quirks or Monoma and tell them to fight like that?

Even now he would still win because he use cold fire now

@@_______3258 Even now he would still lose. Shiggy shit his pants when he was getting blitzed by Bakugo. Todoroki is not competing with Dynamight no matter how you look at it. He will remain as fodder at the end of this manga.

@@devinbaldon5937 are you just gonna pretend that cold fire isn't the perfect counter for bakugo quirk it's like bakugou against dark shadow

@@devinbaldon5937 also saying shiggy shit his pants is kind of funny cuz the moment he became serious he killed him with one punch lol

@@_______3258 How is it a perfect counter? None of his cold fire attacks are going to hit him. Post speed feats showing that Todoroki can tag Bakugo. Oh wait, he doesn't have any, so he gets blitzed like the fodder he is. And as of the recent chapter, Bakugo made Shiggy feel fear and dealt lasting damage to him so Mirko could damage him.

I think people would greatly disagree💀

@@caleblawrence3769 what all might level feats do he have??? Please show me just 1 I'll wait... 🤣🤣🤣 he's literally struggling against dabi. Who deku and bakugo and all might wld one shot

@@backing5284 bro has been on one for all level since season two what are you laughing about💀💀. Dude literally beat a 100% air pressure attack from midoriya like what have you been watching lol. His biggest issues have been controlling his power but in no way has he been lacking that’s false. I do hope that he gets to do more because I feel like they kinda just left him behind when Dabi left.

@@caleblawrence3769 tht 100% wasn't a real 100% that was just the highest that deku cld use. For example none of the 100% punches against muscular created air force like they did against shigaraki. Cux tht dekus 100% is stronger... todoroki struggled against tetsutetsu!!! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO you think hes one for all level.. hes currently struggling against dabi LMFAOOOO bakugo or deku speed blitz and one shots

@@backing5284 nah midoriya literally saves his right arm in order to give off a 100% Air Force smash. The red lines and everything went through his arm to indicate that. If you didn’t get that then you obviously were not paying attention during the episode😂😂😂

While the final Bakugo appears to be stronger, you're talking about Shoto from the sports festival so that doesnt factor in a fight right now, and even that Shoto would win against that Bakugo if he used both sides because while he was of imprecise, his raw power more than made up for it in a fight against Bakugo at that point.

@@ebrimajallow3165 Bakugou said “the stronger the quirk the more imprecise” not “at this moment in time todorokis ice is less likely to hit me but in the future it will be more precise”. He made the claim as a general rule. I also don’t care about who would’ve won that original fight lol

@@ebrimajallow3165 bakugo can speed blitz shigaraki... you think shoto can keep up? Hes struggling against dabi and u think he has more raw power than bakugo?.. whos hurting the all might level villain....boy you must not be too smart 😅

@@backing5284 what Bakugo did at the very end was hella impressive. Ridiculous even. But don't talk like he wasn't struggling before. You say that like Bakugo did away with Shiggy and is chilling now. The man is dead. Shiggy was trying with him the whole time until the very end. That's even more disrespectful. There are also panels that Best Jeanist had to pull him away from the hands otherwise he'd have got caught in it. This is right before he went for his Howitzer Impact + Cluster. And he has been struggling since. The man is "dead". He blitzed Shiggy though, but that's after building up mega sweat. He didn't just start and get to that level and it was hurting his body. I know he got killed by Shiggy but I don't know whether those explosions inside his body were making him faster and killing him at the same time or there were just increasing his speed but it sounded like the former. Bakugo just got his upgrade against Shigaraki, Shoto probably will get his also. Shoto was struggling yes, because it's more heat than even he can produce and Shoto can melt Tetsutetsu. Let's not act like the inferno heat and firepower of Dabi is not something anyone should struggle against. Shoto would've won if Dabi didn't copy SHOTO'S move. Dabi had to copy Shoto's move to still be kicking. I was simply making a point as to how Shoto could win because it's very possible, if not probable, that he'd win against Bakugo.

@@ebrimajallow3165 its absolutely impossible for shoto to win dude... dabi isnt close to all mights level. Bakugo is all mights level lol. Bakugo cld one shot dabi dude lol. Pls make it make sense... how cld shoto keep up with bakugos speed??? Bakugo speed blitz someone whos as fast as all might lol. Shoto has no feats tht come close... shoto isnt even faster or stronger than endeavour lol. Only his fire is hotter.

He alive bruh

@@chadbrad8100 plot twist

I mean Bakugou got hit in the face by his own explosion by monoma and he reacted like Monoma just blew air on his face, so I’m not sure if he would be greatly damage by his own explosion

He needs to cuz hes the weakest of the 3 rn

@@backing5284 that is false

@@timadethis deku and bakugou are 1 and 2 todoroki is 3rd.. both deku and bakugo wld one shot dabi 🤣🤣

@@timadethis you think dabi can survive a howitzer cluster which is stronger than tamaki and nejires combined attack??

@@backing5284 they cannot one shot him, however you mentioned like 5 things, I will only respond by saying honestly if it was bakugo solo against whomever he dies.. ooops didn’t meant to step on that one Either way umm that’s great he has a better power up heck let him be stronger sad we won’t get to see his bright future meanwhile Dabi and Shoto will get yet another boost in power. Imo Y stay blessed

Will todoroki is the original winner in the festival fight according to horikoshi .

The answer is literally in our face.... if shoto is struggling against dabi he'd stand no chance against shigaraki.. bakugo is the only hero who can hurt shigaraki currently since deku is not there. Bakugo has speed blitz shigaraki and damaged him severely. Tht literally puts him on all mights level... i doubt if shoto is even capable of beating endeavour 🤣🤣🤣 endeavor struggled against a weaker shigaraki. And he needed bakugo and dekus help

@@backing5284 don't be dumb the moment shigaraki went serious he killed bakugo with one punch (bakugo only took him out of surprise and because he was analyzing shigraki attack pattern he managed to land a good hit it's doesn't not mean he is as fast as him. if he is he would be able to dodge the last punch from shigraki)

@@_______3258 Bakugou was literally in front of him and he still tag shiggy so he is or was faster than shiggy reaction speed.

@@Tyler_18_ shoto was able to react to iida recipro in s2 does that mean that shoto in s2 faster or as fast as iida?? Ofc no he only reacted because he predicted it and then he wasn't able to dodge the second hit (exactly what happened between shigaraki and bakugo) Now bakugo took shigaraki off guard because shigaraki didn't expect him to be that fast all of the sudden If he is as fast as shiggy he would dodge the second hit that killed him you know why he didn't? Simply becau bakugo was significantly slower than him to react to it

Shoto’s ability stops any combustion from occurring not just by freezing it, chemically he’s smothering the explosives

@@VocalPineapple No I meant that can Shoto also use his fire to counter Bakugo since nitroglycerin is combustible to heat, right?

How tf is shoto is mobile than bakugo?

@@denji3397 he said “if” my guy

Shoto literally covered Bakugo in ice and he still got out so I don’t think its much of a counter tbh

@@superblanco444 shoto used heaven piercing ice wall that isn't an attack meant to change the temperature it's meant to overpower opponents or create obstacles or so on but shoto is very capable of changing the temperatures in an area as shown at the beginning of mha when he froze an entire building with ice effecting the characters inside but current manga it's been proven he can do this on possibly a city wide scale which would indeed hinder bakugou greatly.

@@superblanco444 also the cold temaptures is a confirmed weaknesses of bakugou it has been shown.

Nah a lot of people misunderstand bakugos relationship with cold. We've never seen cold just shut off his quirk or anything just make it harder to produce a max explosion. He doesn't need a max explosion to destroy shotos ice he's done it with normal smaller ones in the sports festival and cluster is literally said to be more powerful because it's a condensed/concentrated explosion. It gives him more power with less sweat so he's destroying the ice no problem. I also doubt he's even catching bakugo with anything he's not nearly as fast

@@izukumidoriya-qg8lu we saw him fight in the winter against the soda villain and that guy had a support gear that let him shoot out jet of carbonated water. Industrial water jet cutter can cut through steel due to the speed of the water (around Mach 3), but it need to be close or else it would just lose it speed and cutting ability. The soda villain can easily cut steel pole even from a distance away, he might’ve even damaged concrete building if I remember correctly. If he can do that then his co2 water must’ve been faster than normal water jet cutter. So he’s still faster than sound even in cold weather.

Stop the bs. Bakugo has 0 feats comparable to All Might. Don't talk like Bakugo was casually dropping people at the ease All Might would have. Word it differently at least. If you're talking speed, sure. I'm not even sure Shiggy was expecting it considering he was fast enough to hit him in the heart before Bakugo released an explosion before dying. You think Dabi is weak? Nine? He had OFA, stop exaggerating. That was not natural Bakugo strength. Bakugo may probably be stronger with the recent boost in speed but you sound disingenuous belittling Shoto.

@@ebrimajallow3165 how are u gonna tell me to re word something when u literally contradict yourself by saying "bakugo has 0 feats comparable to all might" then you go on to say "if youre talking speed sure" 🥴🥴🥴 anyways don't forget shigaraki has durability comparable to all mights. And bakugo damaged him with howitzer cluster and yes dabi wld get one shotted by deku or bakugo...my point abt nine and ofa is if shoto was stronger than bakugo than the author would have him be the secondary main character! Like in naruto sasuke is the 2nd main character/2nd strongest

@@backing5284 I said "sure" and then I went on to defend why I think your feat might be inconsequential because aside from the speed blitzed and the dodge, Bakugo couldn't do anything, and he could dodge him because he analysed from earlier in the fight so he knew what was coming. Shiggy still reacted quirk enough to smash him before Bakugo could hurt him. Shiggy has prime All Might durability but that doesn't mean he has prime All Might speed and prime All Might Strength. The author has stated multiple times that Shoto has the greatest potential if he received OFA. Literally All Might himself said this because Shoto's quirk is that strong. You could also ask, why didn't he say Bakugo if Bakugo was stronger? Even Endeavour says that Shoto has the greatest potential out of everyone to become the best hero. Of course Deku and OFA will always be stronger but ignoring Shoto's abilities like you're doing is silly. Choosing who to make as the rival doesn't always have to be the 2nd strongest. Shoto already has the stronger quirk are you gonna say Bakugo has the stronger quirk because he's the 2nd protagonist (deuteragonist btw). Horikoshi had Shoto fighting Chimera because no one would've been able to take him down aside from the big 3 and 2 of them were fighting nine. It's not very hard to comprehend. Also that's cap, Shoto is fighting Dabi because he's his natural counter and Endeavour Might get emotionally manipulated and has to take down AFO. We also have never seen Bakugo fight against a fire-based quirk since fire can ignite his sweat. Bakugo can't one-shot Dabi for sh*t. He's top 3 villains in the show and you think he can be one-shotted for easily? Let's not be silly.

Dabi top 3 villan 🤔 don't think so but yeah his one of the top could be among top 5 As for bakagou one shotting him well yes and no Yes-> with the cluster move (using fire as defense could decrease the damage but it would still be lethal)......after all shigaraki did tank the top 3 ultimate move combined while he still have a scar from cluster No->as it will take time to fill it up with sweat (plus doesn't look like an item which could be used in 1v1 as its heavy im guessing) Aside from that move 1v1 will be tough for bakagou (even with his current aweaking).......i could see it going either way 🤔 (explosion does seem to be denser or powerful than fire.......which is why i say it could go either way bcz we never saw both colliding 🤷)

@@gameonln6077 bakugo is way too fast for dabi.. bakugo can react to all might levels ..this is stated in the manga... lol unless u think dabi is all might in reaction or speed 😂and anyways u get what im saying even if he survived howitzer cluster. A few ap shots wld end things bakugou or deku ends dabi in seconds lol🥱

In his dreams.

Nah todoroki my favorite but bakugo solos fam

no, he's too slow

^^But I’m also not 100% sure. Todoroki has some serious moves in his arsenal that cover way more range than bakugo, flash freeze heat wave, phosphor, flash fire fist, as well as shoots resistance to cremating heat, you have to take this stuff into account! This is fun!

@@stunna4hubert846 but phosphor shouldn’t counter Bakugou contrary to what VP said in the video. Phosphor eliminates heat and flame but NOT shockwave which is the main damage of Bakugou quirk, the heat is only bonus damage.

Bakugou did way more than shoto. Bakugo was able to outmaneuvered todoroki something tht endeavour struggled to do. And he reacted to shigarakis quirk erasing bullet lol. What did todoroki do?