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Final Cut Pro 2 on M4 iPad Pro: what you need to know

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Exceptional hardware, great battery life, incredible screen, so thin and so light, but the M4 iPad Pro, just like every iPad, comes with some software limitations. Apple is on a mission to prove that the iPad can be used for professional work. That includes releasing its own professional apps like Final Cut Pro for iPad, Logic Pro for iPad. This year, Apple is updating both, but is also releasing a brand new standalone video-only app called Final Cut Camera. #Apple #Technology
00:00 Intro
00:56 Hardware (M4 iPad Pro vs. M2 iPad Pro)
01:47 Final Cut Camera
02:20 Final Cut Camera demo
03:28 FCP External storage (importing files, FCP Library, file management)
05:41 What’s new?
06:28 What’s missing?
07:49 Why I love editing on the iPad Pro
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@TheVerge Месяц назад

Which features do you desperately want on the iPad version of Final Cut Pro?

@themaartencaubergh Месяц назад

Speedramping or it’s a no-go 😟

@MisterBenchley Месяц назад

« Detach audio » function.

@wesleygordonbrown Месяц назад

Can you add markers by pushing M? lol

@andreylucass Месяц назад

Android.

@johnbanton8223 Месяц назад

Speed ramping, custom LUT import, stabilisation are core for me and I could edit 99% of my work on iPad alone. Beyond those core needs,nice to haves would be compound clips, detach audio. It would also help them slowly move to feature parity with the desktop if they added new features to both. For example the new Smooth Slow-Mo on the desktop version. Why not add it to the iPad version at the same time? Now there is even more separation between the two apps functionality! Of course enabling the third party plugins that they teased about on the original launch would really open up the abilities of the app and put it properly into the pro space. Especially as things like stabilisation, custom LUTS and speed ramping could essentially be done by third parties. One day to be able to go between projects on iPad and desktop is the Holy Grail, but I understand they’d need to get pretty close to feature parity before then.

@robinrai4973 Месяц назад

I just picked up an ipad as my first apple device and it boggles my mind how they're pushing something like a full on video editor but just the flipping files app is an attrocity

@ruffmadman Месяц назад

That really sums up the problem with the iPad. Technically capable of so much great things, but with seemingly arbitrary limitations.

@rocketman-766 Месяц назад

@@ruffmadman something something compete with macbook, they could easily turn ipad into like surface laptop but it will compete with their laptop segment

@christianr.5868 Месяц назад

@@rocketman-766even if they make a surface like device, there’s still many things that differentiate the Macbook from the iPad. Better battery life, better performance, bigger screens, stable positioning on the lap, built in keyboard(Which also makes it cheaper than a Tablet which would need a keyboard bought separately), more ports and better cooling. They’d make more money selling iPads that need keyboards than they would selling a regular MacBook Air anyway

@ArrivingElsewhere Месяц назад

Apple's idea of 'pro' users are people who own an external drive and want to pay $50/year, and no further thought given to them. By the way, can someone explain to me why Final Cut and Logic are subscription based? They don't host content from creators (like musical artists, film studios, news outlets). What is the subscription supporting? The newest ipads cost more than macbooks, why is it not included? Great video by the way, and thanks for pointing out the terrible file system.

@Marc-op3ov Месяц назад

Good comment, to the point 😊

@omanajz 26 дней назад

Because it's Apple 🤷🏼‍♂️

@tatianaes3354 25 дней назад

To be correct, the file system on iPad is superb, but Apple’s artificial roadblocks in how you can use it to justify the sales of their pricier Macintoshes is not.

@tooxtalivai0690 20 дней назад

Because they can

@MoonbearDiedHere Месяц назад

I just downloaded FCP for iPad a few days ago and was waiting for the update because of the external drive support. I’m not sure if I missed something but I was able to work off my ssd before this update. What’s the difference ?

@snoozeshutter Месяц назад

Does this mean that Apple basically still hasn’t added external drive support? I mean, what’s the point of external drive support if we’re expected to finish editing an entire video before disconnecting the drive and breaking all the file links?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

So, there is NO way to link it. Your FCP Library file, which contains all your media, needs to be in one place. Which, yes can be an external drive.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Another thing i didn't even mention is that you can't right click -> snow package contents to see which files are even in there 🙃

@snoozeshutter Месяц назад

Oooooh, so basically it seems like they’re saying all your footage for any given project is either all on device or all on your external drive? You can’t mix them and they’re always duplicated?

@Saturntime33 Месяц назад

@@snoozeshutterfrom what I’m seeing that is the case. Where ever you set your library the clips need to be all in the same place or it will create copies. But I do believe your entire library can be on the external drive but you will need to keep it plugged in. I think that’s what he is saying.

@VincentLeong-bb4vn Месяц назад

So FCP for iPad 2 is still bad…my 2 requests are editing off external drives without caveats and round trip capability with FCP for Mac. None of this is fulfilled. I don’t really care anyways, I am sticking with my Mac for real work

@acdi33 Месяц назад

I wish you could also do a comparison/review with other iPad editing apps like Davinci Resolve and Lumafusion!

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I might! I've been using DaVinci and loving it. The approach is wildly different.

@neontie Месяц назад

I second this 🤘

@kloakovalimonada Месяц назад

⁠for color work or...? The Edit page is infuriating, it doesn't even have zoom

@zabdielscoon3041 Месяц назад

Yes would definitely be an interesting episode.

@iBelvee Месяц назад

2:16 getting the ergonomics well done was key. Why Tim Apple why?

@em.a.httpss Месяц назад

i could watch those beautiful shots of the ipad all day. so good

@FlorianBodlee Месяц назад

Will Final Cut Pro go into full screen on an external display now? Version 1.3. would only run as an iPad sized window making big screens not super useful…

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Good question, i haven't tried it yet, but I'm 97% sure it won't! I'll check for you!

@AbhishekBiswas1990 Месяц назад

Negligible to no file management and yet somehow this a PROFESSIONAL grade application...

@TheVerge Месяц назад

More like First Cut Pro, amirite?

@JamesR624 Месяц назад

Yep. Apple still refuses to do the ONE thing that'd make the iPad Pro, PRO; and that is file management. They of course don't on purpose. You're supposed to buy a separate MacBook for that. God I look forward to when Tim's replacement comes and Apple is one again run by technology people instead of greedy bean counters.

@VincentLeong-bb4vn Месяц назад

iMovie with a skin

@letssaylalala Месяц назад

Initial Cut Pro 😂

@MattDe1971 Месяц назад

Do the devices need to be on the same Wi-Fi network. Or is this using some direct wireless connection between the iPad and the other devices?

@VSFFP15 28 дней назад

Can it handle edit 4k and 8k videos with LUTS, Titles etc without lags?

@JeshuaGuy-wc2uy Месяц назад

Please do a comparison of Lumafusion vs FCP vs CapCut. I've been using Luma for the last 3 years. Honestly I love the design of FCP for iPad, but I hate how lacking it is compared to Luma. Also I want to learn what the hype is about with Capcut. Can you do a tutorial on advanced color grading with iPad's FCP?

@rhite139 17 дней назад

Wow, I was looking for a good video on using Final Cut Pro for beginners, I'm getting the M4 iPad Pro tomorrow and you answered literally all my questions so good. Thank you so much!

Месяц назад

Great job

@thebandit188 Месяц назад

Been using Lumafusion for a few years and love the effects they offer. Is there a way to add more transitions to FCP on the iPad?

@iBelvee Месяц назад

Great Video!

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Much appreciated! :)

@jordanbenaderet7929 Месяц назад

Being in post production or even for general use. Is there a reason why you went with the standard display versus the nano-textured?

@HunterBoone Месяц назад

hmmmmmmm with the new video app, i might make a workflow to use this

@WhatIsRukiUpTo Месяц назад

Can some do a test on da Vinci resolve too please?

@U2haveanicedayty2 Месяц назад

Great Video appreciate how you explained what you use it for too.Thanks for sharing.💯✌️

@TheVerge Месяц назад

anytime! ty for watching 🙏

@ianruschel Месяц назад

Greeat looking video.

@betweenthepanels9145 Месяц назад

The Pro label mostly makes sense for artists. All other professionals are better off with other devices.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

The artists love this device and I hope apps keep improving [at a faster pace].

@superstarDJ537 Месяц назад

The file management is horrible on iPad OS. Lovely for drawing or if you need to use a stylus, though.

@hdhdhhehe6709 Месяц назад

Artists would be far better off buying a cintiq.

@hdhdhhehe6709 Месяц назад

@@TheVergemaybe hobbyists. Not professionals.

@shred_pow_pow Месяц назад

That Muska deck is 🔥

@AymericLarose 27 дней назад

Have you seen any improvement in video exports between a M1 or M2 iPad Pro and the M4 iPad Pro? Thanks!! If so, what is the rough order of magnitude of improvement?

@Quitenice Месяц назад

Been using iPad Pro (my only device) with iMovie for 8 years now running a RU-vid channel. Its so much easier than laptops. Don’t try to move your current work flow. Make a new simpler one with iPad and it works so well ❤️😊

@b3naqua Месяц назад

Still no adjustment layers 😭

@opiapr Месяц назад

Is your Lav Mic clip broken ir just doing the awkward mic handling thing?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I'm just doing the awkward mic holding thing cause it's socially acceptable now 😃

@DawnDupponmi Месяц назад

@@TheVergeYeah…just because it’s “socially acceptable” doesn’t make it any less douchebag-y

@airflixuk Месяц назад

Thanks for your honesty view as always ! Most important question for me is where is your top from … I want one !!! Love the colours

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Hah! Marine Layer (no affiliation, not sponsored etc.) 😁

@langeldonao 29 дней назад

The M4 iPad is amazing !!

@travelguy8431 Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts I enjoyed this walk through. I’ll stick with the Mac for now…

@anandkunal Месяц назад

This is great. Would love to see one of these but for Logic Pro on the M4 iPad Pro.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

We did some social videos for Logic! It's really fun and I kinda want to start using it more. I never did before, but it comes with many tutorials too

@trevros Месяц назад

thank you for the video, is it possible to import from an SD card part of a clip, like you can on FCPX, thank you

@TheVerge Месяц назад

nope. i haven't seen that option either. In fact, you can't preview files ahead of importing them.

@MakarPirog Месяц назад

Gpu faster than m2 4x? Hardver 8k better m2 3x?

@christophersura1662 Месяц назад

What do you think of the 11 inch iPad in order to cut? Is it too small?

@peterlee213 Месяц назад

I’m curious to

@pdcorlis Месяц назад

Thanks for the great review. This is a good FCP update - but not a great one. Apple could really do itself a favor by stepping up to the plate and delivering a more fleshed out touch first experience.

@chr1st0pher Месяц назад

would be great to see other creative apps demoed, particularly nomad sculpt and procreate dreams

@criticaltinker Месяц назад

everytime i search for finalcut pro for ipad, all you guys talk about is the multicam. i want to know how to edit movies on the ipad first. can you guys do that?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I feel like I should've focused on Multicam even more than I did. Majority of the review is about how serious of an editing software this is. Also feel free to watch my initial review from a year ago, most of the app is unchanged since then.

@Lorduc Месяц назад

Can you do one video but about Logic in iPad?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I'm not the best person to talk about Logic, but our audio producer Andru did some shorter videos on our socials!

@rowanstrang8072 Месяц назад

Can you set default scaling? (Like when working with 4:3 footage on a 16:9 timeline and you don’t want to manually set scaling for every single clip? And can you add a lut to all the clips at once? Or same issue again where you have to set for each clip individually?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

hi! so you can't set default scaling. Default scaling is set to "scale to fit". You'd have to insert clip, move to Transform panel and tap on scale to fill.

@blackfoxstudioX Месяц назад

I still like Black Magic camera app better but Final Cut camera looks more like stock camera app with pro features.

@johnolin Месяц назад

is it backwards compatible now with FCPX on the desktop?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Just like last year, you send iPad project to Mac, but not the other way around. 🙃

@DarkP1 Месяц назад

M4 missing on AV1 encoding is a huge mistake.

@stairjoke Месяц назад

Do we get Bézier curves to interpolate keyframes yet?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

We do not... Still very much just linear keyframes as last year. I could've linked to my last review. The core app is basically unchanged and that's not a great sign... 😞

@alex-coelho Месяц назад

good video but i miss the old The Verge! the latest videos in the feed is just hour long podcasts and that's sad

@RayDaManX Месяц назад

Did you do this video on the iPad app or the desktop 10.8?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Premiere Pro 😂

@RobertAronoff Месяц назад

I agree with all your comments. What Final Cut Pro for iPad does, it does very well. The UI is excellent and processing is efficient. However, the feature set is incomplete. Missing is the ability to use third party LUT for log processing and effects that optimize for stabilization and video noise/sharpness. Color correction and grading is done with sliders which reduces to a lot of trial and error. The philosophy seems to be that these functions are best done in camera; nice sentiment but not completely pragmatic. For time being will pass on subscription until feature set is further along (if it ever gets there).

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Thanks! one of the very first clips i imported for this review was filmed with DJI's Mavic Air 3... but the LUT was missing 😭

@em.a.httpss Месяц назад

also, i had heard once that if you connect an SSD to an ipad it can brick it. is that true?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

hmmm i haven’t had that issue ever?

@theoldknowledge6778 Месяц назад

If you buy Final Cut Pro on an iPad, does it also comes with the Mac version?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

two separate apps. desktop version is one time fee ($300) and this one is a subscription ($5 a month or $50 a year)

@JiajuChen Месяц назад

To make file structure more usable without duplicating everything, iPad OS really needs to have some huge changes, while being at that, that could also mean the same change on ios, I don't think apple ever wants that... Apple simply doesn't want any third party app accessing any file out side their little sandbox.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

correct. I'm fully aware that some of these changes we might not see in a long time...or ever.

@Mike0193Azul 5 дней назад

I understand they make a ton of money from the App Store but we need better desktop applications and better & reliable file management! There’s not even a safely remove option. And the lackluster file management also somehow pertains to cloud storage which is also unrealizable and buggy to work with on iPad

@AlexSilvaCastillo Месяц назад

Have you tried Luma Fusion? What do you think about it compared to FCP?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

i have, but admittedly its been a while since I gave it a proper test. it was the best and only proper video app before M-chip iPads

@nitesh-maharaj Месяц назад

I've made peace with Apple's philosophy on the iPad. There are certain workflows that I can only accomplish on my Mac, and there are certain workflows that I can only accomplish on my iPad, with the Apple Pencil. Continuity and iCloud often bridges the divide between these two devices beautifully. Once I changed my mindset, my frustration melted away. It's not meant to be a replacement for a Mac, and it will never be, so the sooner you accept this, the happier you'll be.

@bmflinux Месяц назад

whats the price going to be? Does divinci resolve handle external drives well?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

DaVinci works with external drive and keeps them on a separate volume

@TheVerge Месяц назад

FCP is subscription ($5 a month or $50 a year). DaVinci is one time fee ($95).

@bmflinux Месяц назад

@@TheVerge thanks. I picked up the M4 iPad on launch. I'm not an Apple guy but recently made the switch from Android. I love it. The fewer features, the better (I can install a Linux distro on just about anything to get that custom experience). For me, I just want something that works without all the bells and whistles, and I think Apple achieves that. I don't think you're meant to multitask on this thing. People complaining about not being able to listen to music while editing on the iPad, etc. ... like, bro, you have a stack of iPhones; use that for the music. I really get why Apple is dogmatically sticking to this strategy. I noticed a few bugs in Freeform and some other jank, which I hope they address, but so far, so good. I love Procreate and Korg Gadget. Koala Sampler is something else, too. The only thing is, I probably wouldn't have gotten the M4 Pro if the Air had a 120Hz display. For drawing, you really feel the difference, and if you are going to have this thing for a long time, you might as well get the good version.

@tacojohnellenich Месяц назад

I wish the multicam stuff supported external cameras connected to the iPhone/iPads with HDMI to USB-C adapters.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

agree! i do think this app in particular is an extension to your iphone. candidly, it seems like Apple really wants you to use an iPhone for everything here.

@awesomebrotherhood7698 Месяц назад

I know you have tried. But I have also tried with so many softwares that I now regret purchasing because I could never use them after the first few hours. I just use my laptops

@MisterBenchley Месяц назад

And still no « detach audio » function ! How can that be ? Am I missing something ? If yes, please tell me how to do this, I’ve been searching all over the web.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

yeah, you'll need to export that as an audio only file and import it back 🥲

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Just checked again, don't see it anywhere. Just hiding/disabling is possible.

@AaronHiltonSPD Месяц назад

I really wish I could simply dual-boot on an iPad into MacOS. And why not? It's got the full capabilities now. There's plenty of great examples where it really is configured for that mode of usage. Keyboard/Trackpad, plugging in an external screen, HDD. And other times, I just like the appliance simplicity of iPadOS, touch only, living in the moment. Dual boot!

@TechnikFreund Месяц назад

Damn man, this video is 10x more beautiful than the app deserves…

@TheVerge Месяц назад

i try 💅

@TheVerge Месяц назад

thank you for you nice comment! 🙏

@pipo9970 Месяц назад

I could listen to vjeran for 200 hours

@TheVerge Месяц назад

🥺

@danielwmarino Месяц назад

How hot does the new iPad get when working in Final Cut?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

Not hot at all, battery life has also been stellar on the M4.

@stephanes. 21 день назад

You cannot seperate audio files

@VincentLeong-bb4vn Месяц назад

I am really fine with the limitations, but Apple should really get the external drive support right and add round trip capability. If they don’t do these 2, I’m not reactivating my subscription

@thomk3282 Месяц назад

Did they improve the files app yet? Nope.

@jeffsancricca7041 Месяц назад

So Apple has finally completed the transformation of Final Cut, from a Pro to consumer/amateur app.

@Wisani Месяц назад

All I heard were a bunch of excuses as to why the iPad can't do basic things.

@tooxtalivai0690 20 дней назад

Who cares. You watched and commented

@jasonalvarez7242 Месяц назад

My M1 ipad pro kind of lags and glitches up when running final cut which is crazy because my friends og M1 macbook pro runs full Mac version with ease 😭

@TheVerge Месяц назад

You could set up your preview window to be lower resolution. I’m also rendering my time constantly.

@phantomsticma Месяц назад

I think luma fusion approach to touch is way better then apple at least on the editing

@davidcallow 9 дней назад

It doesn’t seem… tooooo much different from iMovie 🤔 Say what you will about iMovie- it’s stable as heck. I really want Final Cut Pro 2 to be better tho because working between my camera and iPad is just sooooo much faster than a Mac computer

@GlassfilmWeddings Месяц назад

CAN WE ADD LUTS ?!?!?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

No, sir! LUTs are still just built into the app, no custom LUTs.

@ennkah Месяц назад

The iPad is such a cool device that I love to talk about but hate to actually use. Everything on there just takes 10x longer than it would on an actual computer

@TheVerge Месяц назад

it really does require 10x more patience for everything.

@Karol.M Месяц назад

Why not mention about M1 ? is out of date?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

i’ve only had access to M2 and M4 😣😔

@waynewalkerorg Месяц назад

Lumafusion is surprisingly more robust. Hope Apple catches up to it.

@antiseth3964 Месяц назад

Yeah they had external drive editing implemented back in November, and it’s single purchases too (for the app and any add-ons) it’s just more mature.

@yellowhouse88 Месяц назад

They had external drive editing a couple YEARS ago I’m pretty sure

@antiseth3964 Месяц назад

@@yellowhouse88 Possibly. It was only implemented for iPhone 15 Pro in November.

@MuhammadFloyd Месяц назад

let me get that muska board lol

@TheVerge Месяц назад

iykyk 📻

@tbud3734 Месяц назад

They should increase price of ipad for more profits. Then it will feel more premium and people will buy more. Maybe 3000$ for base model without accessories like vision pro.

@Coatsey007 Месяц назад

Until Apple sort out file management, both within final cut and within the files app in general, anybody saying this is a pro device is simply wrong. For the record, I’m writing this on a fully spec out iPad Pro M4 13 inch so I know what I’m talking about.

@jbwise2002 Месяц назад

Sounds like Apple needs a cloud based FCP ecosystem with feature parity that allows collaboration and cross platform workflow

@TheVerge Месяц назад

i wouldn’t be opposed, but i don’t think we’re quite there yet with infrastructure.

@Zdravko100 Месяц назад

Final Cut Pro for iPad 2 is a misleading statement and title. iPad 2 is long into history. Try Final Cut Pro 2 for iPad.

@rubyfruit Месяц назад

summary for professionals: use macOS

@rintintin_ Месяц назад

Summary - iPad is technically more capable, but still an iPad

@maple_fields Месяц назад

Apple Pencil Snorricam goes crazy.

@jkn2k Месяц назад

Ipad pro needs MAC SOFTWARE with touch, with real programs not apps

@AleksanderHoff Месяц назад

Apps is just another word for a program. We call them apps on a Mac these days as well. iPadOS needs a few things to make it more usable though, one of them is a proper file structure like Finder on macOS. It’s really the big missing this… files is just not as good, and doesn’t speak well and intuitively with every other program. Dragging a file from files straight into an app is sometimes impossible or difficult due to how it works fundamentally.

@MoonbearDiedHere Месяц назад

Agreed

@HorizonOfHope Месяц назад

It’s so frustrating. Apple needs a ground-up redesign of iPadOS to make it work - but if they do they will eat into their more lucrative MacBook sales and so they refuse.

@mightylotan Месяц назад

Apple is charging a subscription for this app but feels like they're really not working on much

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I think this update says a lot about what the ambitions are. I’m surprised so many things were left unchanged from last year…

@GlassfilmWeddings Месяц назад

CAN WE COLOR GRADE?!?!?

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I was able to get some really nice grades going. However, tools you're given are really limited - WB & tint control for highs, mids and lows. (and of course exposure settings) That's about it. No curves, wheels or color boards etc. There are presets they have added and those are actually pretty good. I was very happy with how some of those turned out.

@GlassfilmWeddings Месяц назад

@@TheVergeNO LUTS THO?!?!

@roryonabike5863 Месяц назад

If you buy a basic Shure handheld mic you’ll look less ridiculous. Or you could get someone to show you how to properly mount a lav.

@GlassfilmWeddings Месяц назад

DaVinci would be great if it didn’t crash every time

@TheVerge Месяц назад

True. I'm having more performance issues with DaVinci

@hanve Месяц назад

❤❤❤

@VijayasarathyMuthu Месяц назад

I swear if I have just listened to the Audio of this one, I would have imagined it’s Nilay Patel.

@TheVerge Месяц назад

I'll take that as a compliment 😃

@Frankillz Месяц назад

Meanwhile Davinci Resolve is basically the same on iPad and Mac.

@ulfw Месяц назад

It's not Final Cut and it's not Pro. Bad Marketing for what is a typical mobile app not a desktop Pro app.

@hdhdhhehe6709 Месяц назад

lol how many years have they been promoting this as a “professional” device when it lacks major basic features of Macs, and shares the same OS with the base level iPads?????

@javebjorkman Месяц назад

Oh no, it's that "we're gonna take all the features away so it's barely considered bare bones and you're gonna like it" effect

@TheVerge Месяц назад

😭

@brahmy8503 Месяц назад

Very thorough and honest analysis. Though I don’t know how to interpret information from someone who calls the keynote an “infomercial”. This is groundbreaking technology with demonstrations. Not a shamwow…

@TheVerge Месяц назад

It's all fun and games 😌