the psyche ward lady explains that they’ve removed everything that could potentially kill Clear. the first things we see in her cell are Pins sharp enough to stick paper onto padded walls
Damn, the opening death montage is like an entire Michael Bay movie condensed into just a couple minutes. It's actually kind of impressive in a strange way.
The one good thing I like about this movie is how it ties together with the first movie. How the deaths if FD1 effected the lives and deaths of the characters in FD2.
Alex can't survive falling brick... the 2 guys from home alone can take multiple bricks to the face from the top of a building... yep, jelly and breadsticks
To be fair home alone has the opposite problem where those guys are even more resilient than the fucking terminator. But he should've survived that anyway.
I don't think they put very much thought into Alex's death especially because Alex Browning if you're going to kill him at least give him a more climactic end like you did with clear Rivers because it's Alex fucking Browning okay.
I always made jokes about how the protagonists live in a universe where they have no bones, but "red jello and breadsticks" pretty much hits the nail on the head (causing it to explode into gore). I love these reviews!
According to TV Tropes, it's suggested in the novelization of the third film, and Dead Man's Hand, that the extremely cruel and over the top deaths are such because Death finds them to be fun. This gets lampshaded in the book Final Destination: Destination Zero. Disaster survivor Will Sax at one point states that yeah, he gets that Death wants them dead. What he doesn't get is why it takes such perverse delight in offing them in the most horrible and gory ways possible. It's probably because Death just wants to do it for the "shits and giggles". As for the premonitions, it suggested that Death is also sending them to "spice things up" in his job and to torment the intended victims, or perhaps that all the victims in the series were meant to die outside of the major accidents. That's one way of looking it it, but it still makes the movies a convoluted mess nonetheless.
bjnboy Yeah. I mean it's been doing the same things over and over, even as something omnipresent it'll eventually get boring. I'd suggest having all the victims just drop dead all at the same time. It would cause a panic, and it might find that entertaining.
This is almost outright stated FD4 . In the final scene it is questioned if death was sending the visions to them, as a giant truck barrels toward them
The highway disaster actually has a major geographical error. Kim and her friends were driving from New York to Florida on U.S. Route 23, which is nowhere near New York. The real Route 23 actually starts in Mackinaw City, Michigan and goes all the way down to Florida.
Plot hole in this movie: Eugene technically never cheated death due to the events of the first movie; if the original cast had stayed on flight 180 and died, he'd have still replaced the teacher from the first movie, so he only cheated death once whereas everybody else supposedly did it twice. Also, as you mentioned, yeah, the kid shouldn't have died at the end.
The reason the kid dies at the end is because it is hinted at in the movies and books, that Death has no problem sneaking lives whenever it can. Which explains FD5's ending and the second movie happening.
Actually yes you should have because it turns out that that random kid Brian gibbons actually survived a disaster of his own known as the Lakeview fire him and a small group of survivors made it out and then they all died in a string of eerie debts So there's a reason why he was on death's list.
My question is if Isabella did have the baby and save all the survivors Clear would still be in danger because she was suppose to die on flight 180 she have nothing to do with route 23 besides helping the survivors stay alive like having a baby saves every survivor who cheated death? That's a big question nonetheless 2 was really good and very suspenseful!
Which is ironic since in an alternate ending of the frist flim Clear did give birth to a baby saving her life for now Carter also survived for now as Well because alex saved him
You're actually completely right because the route 23 list was completely separate from the flight 180 list which is why death was gunning for her the whole time and why she was able to die when she did because it was always her time The only way she could have stopped it was through giving herself a new life like some of the characters in the novels did. However this was always a dead end because Isabel was never meant to die on that pile up which is interesting because a later final destination novel would also have a pregnant girl as one of the main characters except she was actually meant to die in her disaster and it was that child that new life that allowed her to beat death.
Deusdaecon Reviews I did some research. Kim and Tom's deaths are non canon. By the way, will you review the novels, not the novelizations of the movies just the novels, please?
I wonder if the new life angle would have worked if, say, one of the survivors went on to have a kid before death came around for them again. That would be a new life that wasn’t part of Death’s design, but it would be pretty tricky to manage to slip that one past that persistent bastard.
That was the original ending of FD with Clear getting pregnant by Alex and having his baby, saving her and Carter. Test audiences hated it which is why the plot was reintroduced here. However there is a FD book series where the new life angle is fully used by a group of super models cheating death and one going on to have a kid.
Fun fact: The elevator thing is actually fairly similar to a real life case. So there's at least one case of a death that would actually kill someone in real life. In fact, I know someone who actually sprained their arm as a child due to getting it stuck in an elevator.
Alex was killed off screen because he could not be in this movie due to contracting issues also the producers consider the woodchipper death non canon so Kimberly and Thomas might be alive
It actually wasn't even that it was literally just an off-screen death Easter egg thingy for a DVD bonus feature and all those alternate footage scenes are non-canton for example there's an alternate scene where Wendy and her friends and boyfriend get off the roller coaster and they all end up surviving obviously that's not Canton.
okay also a question for the next HP lovercraft mounth iuf u make another can u view brandiefly(I honestly don't know if that is the actual name of the movie its that fly teleportation misshap movie)
its weird cause I like these videos. He analyzes everything about the movie and that is pretty enjoyable. but he over analyzes so much that he sounds like your one friend who you barely talk to because every time you do they complain about everything they possibly can even when it doesn't matter. Like they complain just to complain.
It just struck me around the 20:00-21:25 mark, that the idea that coincidences of fate, those fortunate happenstance that led to one person surviving while another person died, would have made a far better movie plot for the Final Destination series. Death is inevitable, all the characters know this, but it's how you reach your own death that constantly changes. Who needs Death constructing weird sequences of ultimately pointless actions that may lead to a death, when the characters themselves realize that they are inadvertently responsible for the deaths of others because they managed to survive by accident. It could be like, instead of Death having a list that has to go in order, it could be that a group of people survived their intended deaths, and then the people around them begin to die off (as compensation) instead of the main protagonists. It could be slowly revealed that the Pros were always meant to die earlier, but because of their free will/independent actions, they are living off the borrowed time of their now dead loved ones. This could set up a very personal conflict in them, as they have to decide if their own life is worth having everyone else die around them. It would be an exchange. To remain alive beyond your allotted time, someone close to you, who at some point shared your life, has to die. You live off their time, but it runs out quickly. More people end up dead instead of you. You slowly realize that you are the cause, the nexxus, that all these deaths revolve around. And if you're the source, then you need to decide how the end the cycle. How do you decide your own "final destination?"
Love your videos. I also like how "Death" in these films is really one of those jokers. The one joker who either builds up to a good prank, or just does bucket of water on the door prank.
yeah but the bucket is like one of those dead rising drill buckets that drill into your brain cause it needs to have a massively gruesome and nonsensical as possible death at the end of the prank.
Love your reviews! I have watched the final destination videos about 5 times !! Love that you can see you getter madder and madder as the series goes on lol
Hey so after finishing the final destination series I would be REALLY interesting in hearing your thoughts on the saw series if you don't want to do it I understand but I would REALLY enjoy it
I certainly plan to look at that series but I honestly can't really give any specifics unfortunately the best thing I can do is recommend my Patreon page, www.patreon.com/DeusdaeconReviews for all official requests
but who is giving them the visions? not death but another force! in the final destination films? its as though a competing force is giving the doomed a chance or false hope? or cruel cat & mouse game eg die now or die later?
So many things to question about this film. 1. Shouldn't the girl who had the premonition had died first? 2. Why didn't the fire fighter disable the air bag first? 3. That kid shouldn't have died at the end
I think that a lot of the stuff, like hand stuck in garbage disposal and the entire dentist office scene, were simply meant to ramp up tension, keeping people waiting for the next death. I will say that Clear was probably in an institution less for how they viewed her thoughts on Death coming to get her, and more because of the crippling anxiety and depression that kind of thing could create (or just from seeing all her friends die like that).
Now what I always thought was such a wasted potential with this series is basically having death powerless to kill them after they cheated him ie none of his tricks would work on them be it illness, time etc and the only way to kill them would have been to have others do it for him or get them to kill themselves by killing everyone around them until they killed themselves
You know I have never used a hand brake and it have it work a tenth as well as the regular brake.... I think shes still have kakked. It would have made it more visually dynamic to have her yank a brake and it do sweet fuck all.
When they said the stuff about a new life I kind of thought it meant they should all commence banging and hope a child resulted. So pretty much a porn parody of itself. Also, for some reason I thought death was hit by a car. And that would have been hilarious. That's what they should have done - kill death. It would make just as much sense. The bell tolls for thee, Reaper.
Straight from Family Guy: Death: *gets out of car* Oh, my head! (Taller version of himself appears) S. Death: Sorry dude, you're dead. Death: But I'm Death. S. Death: I'm Super Death, you're done. Death: What happens now? S. Death: You're about to be reincarnated as a Chinese baby right about...now. (Death disappears then reappears) S. Death: Girl? Death: Girl.
That....that actually makes sense. It would literally be a new life not meant to exist. Then again nothing saying death won't just kill them all anyway.
XS Baron ... We do not speak of that movie... Or any movie created by The Great Satan Uwe Boll. So many wasted IPs. Repent, say 60 "Hail Spielbergs" and go in peace.
Btw. pretty exactly the same elevator accident really happened somewhere in China. A women was decapitated by the elevator falling down the second she attempted to step out, seemingly because it was completely overloaded . All of it was on security camera...
Any one else notice that the theory that a new life will reset death is never actually tested. That could have been an interesting plot, someone avoids dyeing and then either impregnates someone or gets pregnant and the survivors try to protect the pregnant woman from a desperate death.
I feel like the “Rube Goldberg” sequences wouldn’t be as bad if there was proper tension and atmosphere. If you haven’t seen the movie, you might feel a bit of tension not knowing what will happen, but on rewatch, these sequences don’t hold up. If the filmmakers had made the uncertainty and tension more of a focus, then it’s possible that pointlessness might not be as big of an issue. Or, as Deusdaecon points out, if the movie had leaned into some of the new ideas-calling on phones to warn each other, every survivor is causing a butterfly effect that saves and dooms new people.
The writers did probably have something to do with the friends in the SUV but that would expand the run time and my ADHD won't let me sit past 1 45 min in a movie. In fact that's why I watch your show.
Is "incinerator" what you call a cremation machine were you live? I'm genuinely curious because incinerator where I'm from is for trash. Tho I suppose they do similar things by burning organic material away and mass reduction. No matter how I word this it sounds smarmy and I apologise it's just distracting me and got me curious. Anyway cremation is cheaper than a traditional burial so assuming he made a will or similar document before he got rich he would have set it up for the cheapest option. I find it odd he wasn't placed into a box first. And honestly he doesn't even seem the type so really it's more likely a relative claimed his body and because of legal tie ups wouldn't have access to his money yet and would opt for cremation.
I know in the original, and I hope it was pointed out, Ms Luton told the other teacher to go back onboard cos he knew the whole french thing better than her, also glaring error that the girl who dies in the car at the farm said she was in the bus that hit terry - that bus was empty though you need to freeze frame to see that i think?
One thing I always pisses me off is when people say that the anime another based on the novel of the same name is exactly like final destination they always say oh it's the anime version of final destination it's so annoying.
My theory is either those were just red herrings or that only someone on Death’s list can intervene and save someone on the same list. Not the best theory, considering people on the list can affect people not on it.
@@dhonorable195 hmmmmm I suppose that's possible because I remember every time I saw final destination 2 I always kept wondering why did Tim die because the nurse stopped him from dying I guess another one could be maybe it wasn't his time in that explained all the red hearings?
22:25 I was also (also as in I thought of it in another scene and also thought so in this one)thinking Resident Evil when the dude gets chopped with the lasers. Man, all these deaths just remind me of Resident Evil! Edit: Ha, like a second later and it looks like I am not the only one who thought that.
@@anime_cyko Pro choice people still agree that the unborn baby is alive, it's just not an independent life because it's conected to the mother. The pro life people don't care about the independence of the baby they only focus on that it's alive and should be protected from harm like any other independent life.
The stupidest part about Clear’s death is it had literally no reason to even happen like that. More than likely all she had to do was stay in there and she’s probably fine. But bope decides to get involved in something she’s already been through once….for reasons I will never know or understand.
I still chuckle at Tim's death. Not that the death is funny, but that when Kimberly says "Pidgins" Tim instinctually knows to run into a flock of them, like he's a 10 year old.
Well actually Death was already after Clear if you watch the two movies she's been in so she would not have died after Kimberly and Burke so to say why death didn't kill clear before she's the only flight 180 survivor to not affect the highway survivors since she was alive if death been working backwards death could of killed Clear before and in the hospital it made sense for death to finally kill clear since she was looking for Eugene and barged in the room so death was waiting for clear to open the door and kill her and death had all the time in the world to kill clear she had nothing to do with the pile up and if the baby did save Kimberly and her group clear still would have died.
That's exactly what I slightly think would clear still be in danger if everybody was save? Clear was suppose to die on the plane and every death represent the survivors that died on the plane so clear was the only one alive and death had all the time to kill clear maybe it was waiting for her to come out of the mental asylum to kill her cause death could of killed her in the mental institution by making the TV in her cell explode and cause a fire since she's suppose to die by fire but just theories if a survivor has a baby and save everyone will survivors from other accidents be save?
You can watch film as a double feature with the first movie. I feel Final Destination and Final Destination 2 has the best sequel continuity I’ve ever experience. I considered this film to be best film in the franchise because its more of the same from the first movie, but so much better. The characters are more enjoyable, the deaths are more creative and gorier, it had the best car accident scene I’ve ever scene, and they introduce more lure to the franchise more than any other installment in the franchise.
+Deusdaecon 1408 or maybe the resurrected for hp lovecraft Or the 1970 Dunwitch horror. all good flicks. speaking of rediclous movies maybe the fast and furious films talk about physics defying
Great review, I didn't even notice half the plot holes you pointed out here. I look forward to your videos on the rest of the series and hope you don't make me think less of Final Destination 5 (the only one aside from the first that I kind of liked)
I feel so sorry for you. *heh* I'm only j/k, of course, but I know 5 is considered one of the worst. I wouldn't expect Andy to be too nice to it. Look how brutal he was to the FIRST installment.
I just realised, the bit at the end where everything looks like it's going to be ok PROVES it's death giving people these visions just to fuck about, as the guy in the bed has no clue about the baby being born at that moment, so making him not die then could only be to make them think it's over, then laugh more as it kills them. So ye, every single Final Destination film is 100% death giving people visions because they got bored and want to just kill people in weird ways after taunting them for a while first.
I love these movies. God help me, I love them. They're fun if you completely turn your brain off when watching them. Everything you pointed out is completely valid though.
