Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Performance Mode Patched... But What Does It Do? 

Amen Brother! Just my thoughts with every game, coming with a crappy performance mode! The last real good one was Spiderman 2!

The game is a massive practically seamless open world running on unreal engine 4 limitations. Don't act like you know what the fuck you are talking about. Part 3 will be even bigger because of the airship and that is when the game will be truly an open world game and we can finally clear out that grey map areas 😅

The issue here is marketing. Your games/consoles won't sell as much if your competitors are marketing higher resolutions than you are.

But it doesn’t prevent forbidden west look amazing in 4K and run super smooth at the same time. Same for naughty dog games.

@@zest01 1800p, and checkboarded, atleast on performance mode

Not everybody has a 120hz TV yet, but it would make the people who do like myself very happy.

And me ​@@craigsampson3386

This is what I always say about PC's... not everyone has a 4080. I mean, it's obvious and goes without saying, but may as well say it anyway.@@craigsampson3386

A locked 40fps1080p. No more bad upscaling.

​@craigsampson3386 that's why it would be an option lol, an option isn't supposed to be for everyone, it's there for the people who want it/can use it

because they add SHARPENING into the game while SOFT has none of it ..and this doesn't look good on 2K monitor

I couldn't do it, it looked awful too me. This was my first game at 30FPS in about 5 years. And I only tolerated it because it was Final Fantasy.

I feel that, i cranked the sharpness on my TV up that made it a bit better. But had to live with 90 Hrs of blur. But guess that shows how good the game is if everyone is willing to make some kind of sacrifice.

30 FPS!! The horror!!

No way I’m looking at those blurry graphics when I’m playing this for 80+ hours

Idk if they improved the stability of graphics mode after the update or maybe its the amount of time I've played that I've got used to it but graphics mode is miles better. Gameplay doesn't feel that bad after a while playing. My first ps5 game at 30fps. Oh well

They did fix the faces with this latest patch at least

yeah that lighting has really bothered me the entire time. it gets very annoying not being able to see anything when you change lighting environments, which happens A LOT

This is a big issue with Unreal 4.

Wtf you smoking the lighting is great especially in caves

Omg, yall complain about everything lol

especially on oled, ugh

I’m playing on an OLED in graphics mode and it works for me. I also decided to stick to graphics mode for FF16 and just finished before this dropped so maybe it was an easy transition for me.

I see where you are coming from. A toggle for motion blur should be implemented. Fortunately, I am not affected by motion sickness. I feel sorry for the players who find it difficult to play this way. You have my sympathy because the game is really great.

@@HeyDrGameryou’re probably used to 30fps on oled, but trust me if you put oled and regular tvs side by side and play 30fps games you’ll see how terrible 30 fps is on oled compared to other regular tvs. It’s because of the oled near instantaneous pixel response time between frames, makes low fps content look choppy without some sort of processing

@@Mohashm I hear what you’re saying. I’ve used to 60fps and make use of the 120hz mode if supported in other games like Horizon, GOW and even more recently with Spider Man 2. I’ll give it another shot though with the recent update 😅

The game already have motion blur. Camera blur just looks terrible and turns everything into a smear fest, I'm glad they didn't use it

​@dante19890 they should give the option to have camera blur, though.

@@SE-fq4gf usually if they have a slider , there is always some form of camera blur present even at the lowest setting. That's the argument against it

​@dante19890 maybe in some cases, but not often, what's more common is both object and camera blur being set on a single slider or toggle.

Same for me. I‘m fine with 30fps for everything that is not a FPS and FF7 Rebirthjust look unexcusable at the performance modes.

Apparently I hear its only for the digitial version of the game that this happens after the update for whatever reason,

Ye wish they pour the same effort into the technical aspect

Cope

@@dante19890 plays fine for me.

GOTY 2024

​@@juniorcorporan3399Elden ring DLC says otherwise.

Putting trumotion on is absolutely terrible, but if you like it.....

Trumotiom- user ( which is for pc) and those settings work like a charm It’s actually how I played tears of the kingdom which was noticeably smooth

what about input lag?

@@DravenxEyeless it’s minuscule at best Especially since the pc friendly user mode has a higher refresh rate

@@DravenxEyeless doesn't matter in this game, in big fights you will be using the menu to issue commands, in small fights as long as you spec right it will be over before you know it

That becuse your steam deck has a dinky screen

@@timmyp6297 dinky screens for the win! lol

how is graphics/quality mode on your deck? Using chiaki it is very sluggish. Haven't tried quality mode on my TV, too lazy to sit at my desk lol

@@Matendu I can't do the quality mode, yes it looks nice but it's way too sluggish. Performance sharp looks great on the deck though!

Yes I’m waiting for the ps5 pro before I even touch this game

​@@latinochicoDitto

This isn’t a matter of pixel peeping to notice flaws. This game looks horrible in performance mode, even sitting far away from the tv. They should have used a competent upscaler but they obviously haven’t. The game doesn’t look good in motion or in static shots, and there really is no excise for the game to look as bad as it does. Graphics aren’t everything obviously but I think the notion that they don’t matter at all is absurd, and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is a worse game than it could be because how bad it looks. It takes me out of the immersion of the story because the whole screen looks like it is covered in vaseline. The previous game which was also on the PS4 looks far better. Still a good game but it was probably rushed out the door, otherwise I don’t see why Square Enix would release it in such a state

@@unoriginalname771 I never once said or even implied graphics don't matter. Game looks horrible? That's a big stretch. I clearly said it's obviously not perfect, but horrible? The only one being absurd is you my friend. As far as no excuses? Well, you know that's not true either. There are lots of reasons/excuses. I didn't give any excuses, or excuse it anyway. I admitted it's not perfect or anything. But I can also admit it isn't horrible like you stated it is. Also, if it's that important to you that it looks better, the graphics mode seems to be a pretty stable 30, and looks great. Play that. Nobody is forcing you to play the performance mode but you. Also...as far as the immersion comment, I played the original back in the 90s. I couldn't possibly be more immersed in this game than I am. The second you step into kalm it should slap you in the face with how great of a job these guys did building this expansive world we all dreamed of decades ago

horizon forbidden west... death stranding... ghosts of tsushima.? there is no reason rebirth 60 fps mode to look like this compared to other ps5 exclusive open world games. Is it horrible ? of course not lol its just fine but it really should look way better.

@@JungKooksTwin I agree, all those games look better. Horizon and death stranding use decima engine, a proprietary engine for 1st party Sony games. Ghost I believe used unreal. Difference between all of those and rebirth is development time. If I'm not mistaken rebirth entered pre production in 2019, and didn't enter actual production of the game until 2020. So barely 4 years of dev time. Horizon took 5. Ghost took 6. Death stranding I'm not too sure about but I think it was 5 years too. Obviously rebirth could benefit from a little more polish. But the scale, the amount of content, all done in 4 years is pretty crazy nowadays

To be fair, you indeed didn't say graphics didn't matter, I made an assumption there based on what you said as it's the same rhetoric that's often thrown around from people who claim graphics do not matter. That is my bad. However, my main point is that this isn't a case of a game that has minor graphical blemishes. As soon as my brother and I saw the in game graphics, we both said out loud, "What the fuck?" Sitting about ten feet from the tv, and we see an ugly, overly soft image and horrible lighting, not to mention some textures that wouldn't be out of place for a nintendo 64 title. It's one of the ugliest games on PS5 that I've ever seen. The art style is mostly great, but the image quality doesn't hold up at all. As for the Quality mode, it plays like a slideshow. It looks janky as hell probably because it has no camera motion blur. So while performance mode is very ugly, it is much more playable. I'm glad they got the gameplay of the game right, but it could have been the complete package if they gave it more time and ironed out the image quality issues in performance mode, and I'd argue some good motion blur for the graphics mode wouldn't hurt either. I'm not being absurd to point out the obvious in stating that the game does look terrible. It's really not pretty to look at outside cutscenes, which is a shame. @@d8l835

Best sweet spot

I agree, i dont like the constant trade offs, 45/1440 would be nicer if they could manage

@@justaguy273245 wouldn’t work it has to be 40 because of frame times and display hz of 120 or 240

@@lasthopelost9090I didnt know. Ok, point stands though, a compromise would be best!

But then you dim your highlights, so I dont ever us bfi

Thanks I'll give it a try. Mine is a CS model.

what is BFI i have a lg c2 oled on 1440p

picture options > TruMotion@@ItzVALOR EDIT: wow, looks great actually. a lot of artifacts around character models though when moving and longer input lag due to game mode having to be off so it's not really for me. it's a nice tease of what a PS5 pro version could look like though..

@@ItzVALORblack frame insertion

Bro you’ve been averaging 11 hours per day…

It's not even the engines fault, Ghost of Tsushima was essentially made on the same one and is arguably one of the most beautiful open world games out there AND came out on PS4. It's really just a huge lack of optimization.

forspoken has a really good tech behind

@diegofuentes425 they made a 40fps modes too lacking from the FF games

Forspoken also ran and looked like utter garbage.

Lol Forspoken.

@@monkfishy6348 it's been fixed

30 fps is locked and smooth!

@@daniloazhar5454 "30fps" and "smooth" do not belong in the same sentence. What happened to the PS5 I thought it was a better platform than gaming PCs? It's magical SSD that does wonders. . .

@AVEXentSUCKS if done right it can be very smooth and rebirth shows it. You can't get a gaming PC with a spec of a ps5 for 499, USD. Not possible​@@AVEXentSUCKS

@@daniloazhar5454 you clearly get what you pay for with the PS5, a potato.

FF7 rebirth is just not well optimized, that's not ps5's fault, ps5 had already run way more beautiful and polished games on 60fps than FF7 rebirth

horizon proves that it can be done, with actual moving foliage, day/nigth cycle, etc. both are exlusives too so it's like wtf

​@@darkknight2864 Horizon had horrible foliage shimmering for many many months

​@@darkknight2864 the difference is the engine, unreal 4 runs like ass so im amazed they were able to get the game to run as good as they did. horizon, death standing, and ff16 use custom engines so they end up looking better it just takes a lot more dev time.

@@Aggrofool many many months?.. Thats not true, DF has a video talking about that specific update when guerrilla updated the game to make it look even better and that wasnt "many many months" after the game came out.

It's because there is no 60fps mode to compare it to. If you don't switch back and forth, your brain will adjust to the 30fps and it will look and play fluid. Rebirth, especially, as an RPG plays absolutely fine at 30 fps.

It is an improvement compare to the previous perf mode. Stop whining

@@phrofile3613 nope , no improvement .. im not whining , im just stating the fact

@@phrofile3613 they added back the old perf mode and you think it's an improvement? as DF says, we now have the choice between two negligibly different impractical solutions

Hopefully, it's a good PC port and not a stuttering mess like the last FFVII game on PC.

the port is still bad Square Enix rarely fixes their games. Luckly we have mods for the PC Versions@@SE-fq4gf

You’re not gonna get native 4K 120 in this, you’re gonna have to use frame gen at least, or upscaling. Either or

Unless you wanna play the game in low settings just for 4K

@Higurashi690 I dunno I think a 4090 wouldn't have a hard time with this game, considering even a 3060ti could get just over 60fps at times in FFVII Remake at 4K.

Yep upscaled 4k looks flat and not as sharp... native 1080p destroys upscaled 4k people are so brainwashed by the marketing scheme off theses consoles.

Damn…

This is what I did, too.

Thats because the ps5 is upscaled 4k and not true native 4k.. all the games on a ps5 will look better at native 1080p image then a fake upscaled 4k. because all games are developed for that resolution or around it.and the ps5 is only powerful enough for that resolution. When you here 4k on ps5 games its always upscaled 4k never native its 1080 or around that then a fancy hardware plus algorithms boost the image quality to 4k but doing that comes with a cost to sharpness clarity etc because it aint developed natively in 4k.. run all games on ps5 at 1080p once you start to take notice at the sharpness differences and clearness from the both you will then understand witcher 3 is a good way to test and see it..

The ps5 doesn’t render it at 1080 though. What’s happening is it renders at 900p or whatever it is internally for performance mode (wouldn’t be surprised if it was even lower in this case), the game upscales to 4k, then the ps5 downscales it to 1080 if that’s what the output is set at, then if playing on a 4k tv the tv will upscale it again to 4k. The only way this would look better is either you’re playing on a 1080p tv, or the upscaler in your tv set is better than what the game is using, which honestly wouldn’t surprise me as you can’t get much worse.

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What mode did you okay it on ur hd tv

They will you'll just need to buy the ps5 pro 😂 stopped playing it now until I get that console myself

@@R1ckmister Problem is, it's not the hardware that's holding it back, but the optimization. The current PS5 would be perfectly capable of running the game with more clarity and better lighting, it's purely a matter of the devs putting in the elbow grease to make it look better.

I’d test it personally but on my 27” monitor, performance smooth was noticeably better than sharp in 4k

85K? Gat dayum!

Either get used to 30 fps that looks good , or get used to 60fps but will look like shit

​@@amongallothersname of tv not price

@@amongallothersThat’s the model genius

That's what I did pre-patch. Now I just use the soft mode and it's totally fine and runs smooth.

At this point they have to, and retroactively as well for Rebirth at LEAST

they already said they won't be changing engines

PC.

@@opx4real it’s not even on pc

@@dorian6021 Performance is fine enough in Rebirth. If DF's theory about the outdated UE4 being the reason they aren't using FSR2 or TSR then UE4 would fix that. Say what you meant about the quailty of FSR2 but it is a lot better then simply blowing up the image

No it isn’t, I had to switch to graphics mode about 10 hours in and I never looked back

@@johnjohnson7743 I've tried graphics mode and I would probably be fine playing at 30fps, but when I know I could just switch over to 60fps.....

@@itsmatt517 I just couldn’t do it on performance, even at 1080p it was blurry. One thing it did teach me though is I’m ok with 30fps, if I either start the game like that or give it some time after getting used to 60. The annoying thing is it’s being rendered at 1440p, so if they did no post processing it would be super crisp at 1080p.

Nah it needs camera motion blur. 30 FPS without camera motion blur feels like a slideshow to me.

@@steel5897I got used to the 30fps very quickly but I have to agree with you: A motion blur option should be implemented. A Toggle is alway better than to be forced to play in a certain "mode"

Well this game came out 99% without any bugs. That is more important for me than a shitty performance mode. 30fps in this game is really no dealbreaker. It plays totally fine.

I set my Playstation to output at 1080p then played on performance mode. The combat is more fun at 60fps, and it doesn't look as bad if you force 1080p.

What do think would change with new hardware but without patches to support the new PS5 Pro? I would say.... nothing at all. The experience will be the same as on the current console.

Youre a very perceptive one. They are playing you like a fiddle. Dee de de leee dee de lee dee lee

@@sfk-fjordan I wasn’t clear, I will wait for the patches on the ps5 pro , wait for the DF analysis and only then I will decide if I should buy the game or not.

@@latinochico The patches we are all hoping for :)

4k upscaled you mean...did you really believed a 500 dollar console would do 4k 120.. please do a tech cource because the secret will be revealed. All will make sense

Sure. Let's forget that the game still looks pretty good in quality mode and that the game was launched 99% bug-free.... So either people are complaining because the game needs 5 months of patching or because the game supposedly looks like crap... just funny. You can't please anyone.

Toggle off what?`There is no motion blur in FF7 Rebirth... but a minor per-object blur.

@@sfk-fjordan well that's what's making me sick then