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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth: Questions the yet Endure, Is there a small hope for Sephiroth? 

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Ten questions left as the meteoric emotions of Rebirth's credits roll. Some innocent, a few steeped in intrigue, and a dangerous possibility... Do the celestial 'outsiders' whose colour is red, know something about the origins of celestial adversary, Jenova.. whose colour is red?
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Relative Timeline of Events:
0:00 Spoiler Warning Preamble
0:17 Which Midgar is seen in Remake’s final scenes
1:00 Which Midgar is seen in INTERmission’s final scene?
1:45 Is there a Zack… in the Rebirth timeline?
2:10 What will Biggs remember, and who rescued him?
4:15 Is the world of Rebirth not Remake?
5:03 Is Charley’s fate a tragedy?
6:15 What does Nero want with Yuffie?
7:02 The ninja’s most difficult of choices…
7:20 Does Sephiroth actually need Meteor?
9:29 Could the Gi provide impossible knowledge?
Music, in order of appearance:
Red XIII’s Theme, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
(Rebirth Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
Shinra’s Theme, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
(Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
Nightfall in the Undercity, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
(Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
Tears in the Rain, Vangelis (2)
(Synth remix) Maxime Jean Musique (3)
Under the Apple Tree, Takeharu Ishimoto (1)
(Rebirth Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
One Winged Angel (Advent Children version), Nobuo Uematsu (1)
Opening Theme, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
(Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
Jenova’s Theme, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
(Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
Those Chosen by the Planet, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
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(2) • Blade Runner
(3) • Blade Runner Synths Co...
"Madness and genius are two sides of the same coin."
- John Hendy

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@MrTRex-pu6pd
@MrTRex-pu6pd 2 месяца назад
Dude… Getting rid of Jenova once and forever is worth Seph getting a little slack cut for him 😂❤
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
I agree! Thank you for watching/ comment!
@force-1-nature
@force-1-nature 2 месяца назад
I second this
@shonenmcletsplays3453
@shonenmcletsplays3453 2 месяца назад
Glad someone out there is actively thinking about this and isnt caught up in a knee jerk reaction. I've had a feeling that from the start of remake that sephiroth's level of manipulation is on a completely differently level this time around.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
He's terrifying in Rebirth to me. A true monster and dark, insane god. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@franny_frantastic
@franny_frantastic 2 месяца назад
I wanted Sephy to be redeemable until Rebirth. He didn't eve care about killing Aerith this time. She was just a pawn. If there was some way to give him eternity with Jenova without destroying the planet or killing anyone I say give him that hellish punishment.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
I've also felt a severe hardening of my empathy for Sephiroth, despite watching him be viscerally dominated by Jenova in chapter 1. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@Fragmentsinfractals488
@Fragmentsinfractals488 2 месяца назад
Think of it like this. If you could create a World where everyone lives Eternal, would you? That is basically Heaven. But what would you have to do to get everyone to Heaven?
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 My bias be known, I really hope there is a Sephiroth who can be as good or bad guy as they come, but either way isn't insane and doesn't want to end existence for an eternity of loneliness. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@Fragmentsinfractals488
@Fragmentsinfractals488 2 месяца назад
@@dreamphoenix He, I think, wants to create an Infinite World, where the Characters, like Zack or Angeal, or Cloud, can become what they look like. Angels. Boundless, Unchained from the Restrictions of the Story they happen to be in.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 That would be awesome. My jaw would be dropped and remain there if such a revelation came to pass. Thank you again!
@genevievelaplace7301
@genevievelaplace7301 2 месяца назад
This is so wild. But I love your interpretation. Defying fate is just an illusion. In the French dub of Rebirth, when we fight Sephiroth alongside Aerith, Sephiroth says to Cloud, "How can you tell everything you see is not just an illusion?" To which Cloud replies, "Shut up, you can't manipulate me. I don't have doubts anymore." To which Sephiroth laughs and says, "Poor Cloud, I pity you." Countless times, the French dub has been said to be faithful to the Japanese dub. So I kind of believe it is the illusion of choice, and Sephiroth will make Cloud believe he can save Aerith and the world. But in the end, saving Aerith would mean Sephiroth wins. So in the end, Aerith needs to stay in her dying alternate timeline.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
Oh boy I really hope not... I've barely begun to recover from Aerith dying the first time. IMHO The new dawn of Remake could have been real, if only the heroes were aware enough to know what was actually going on, to orient choices to that. Instead they reacted to their surroundings (Robed Men; not that they had any other solutions). The exiting of the cave of illusion in Rebirth could be real, as the heroes know roughly why Sephiroth has been doing what he has (Reunion). We'll see how they grow at Journey's End. That's very interesting, I didn't know the French translation was so aligned to the original Japanese version. Thank you for watching and for the thoughts!
@genevievelaplace7301
@genevievelaplace7301 2 месяца назад
@dreamphoenix As for the English translation being less faithful to the Japanese dub, it is all over Twitter. Japanese people and people fluent in Japanese acknowledge this and kindly translate what the real meaning is for certain important words. I play in French and I saw with their translation that the French is more faithful. Apparently, German is more faithful too.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
Rock on! (Google Translate says Rock On! in French is Rock On! :) )@@genevievelaplace7301
@robertjones3489
@robertjones3489 2 месяца назад
I think the Temple of Ancients statues of Jenova make it pretty clear that the Gi worship her. I doubt they have separate origins. The Gi's "intolerant" accusation reeks of propaganda and animosity for the Cetra. From the broadcast in Kalm...also seen in Zack's prelude...I think this Midgar is the same city and timeline at the beginning of Rebirth. However, other Stamps appear during Zack's adventures, and so it's hard to tell whether the entire world is in a state of flux or not.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
Thank you as ever for your thoughts! And thank you for watching!
@robertjones3489
@robertjones3489 2 месяца назад
@@dreamphoenix My metal brother, Aerith's VA just...DOOTed in her stream. DOOT, the sound which annoys Doomguy. You must prophecy with me. Our glorious Lord's return is upon us, and as our heroes worship him, you too must be remembered for eternity in his glory. JOIN THE EVER FAITHFUL.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
lol what rank transgression! Apostate behaviour. When I see next her I will waylay the air with resounding prophesy. 😂 Thank you as ever for your comments!@@robertjones3489
@tundra-queen-sled-god
@tundra-queen-sled-god 2 месяца назад
OoOoOoOo Ma chemical brotha!!! Soooooo Tanks you!
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
Thank you!... ? :) Thank you for watching!
@Foxheimer
@Foxheimer 2 месяца назад
I like the idea of questions without necessarily theorizing ! I'm just thinking loud When we get to the Forgotten Capital the CGI with Sephyroth is almost identical to the one in Remake on the expressway just before fighting him as final boss. I mean the same characters are saying the same things ... after that just before Cloud crosses the portal Barret makes a direct reference to the expressway. In remake when we enter the portal the Shinra Tower is behind us, we can also see the toll and the lights of the truck we used to escape the tower. But once we cross it the Shinra tower and the toll are in front of us and we don't see the truck lights anymore.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix Месяц назад
You're right, there are a lot of parallels between these two moments! After a wall of whispers, Destiny is challenged. Thank you for the incite! And thank you for watching!
@Foxheimer
@Foxheimer Месяц назад
@@dreamphoenix And if you defeat Destiny an opposite World is created to keep a balance ... just thinking loud lol Thanks man ! There are so many things. The level of awareness that Cloud has about his childhood defeating the purpose of the Tifa/lifestream scene from the OG. The bath of Tifa in the lifestream explaining maybe why she sees 2 images of Aerith passing. Blood no Blood. The girls working Cloud's memory (the awkward scene of Tifa in Nibelheim, the inaudible or unfinished talks all along the game) That green halo breaking Cloud free from the Whisper/jenova/Sephiroth influence Sephiroth on Cloud's back right from the start of the adventure when he barely remembers him at the beginning of OG ...
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix Месяц назад
@@Foxheimer Those are some fantastic a-ha's! The affect of this journey being a sequel to FFVII is quite nuanced in Rebirth (whereas more overt in Remake). I also remain in wonder at why certain things were inaudible. Thank you very much for incites!
@Foxheimer
@Foxheimer Месяц назад
@@dreamphoenix The things that makes me think we may be in a sequel are not really in the game. If you created such a masterpiece 30 years ago would you like to replace it by a remake ? Or would you like to sacralize it ? So in 30 years it's still required to play it to get the full story of the FF7 universe. In remake we got those visions of the future especially at the end, the old audience knows what that means, but the new one ? Anyway by the end of the game those things are not going to happen because we defeated destiny. So both audiences start "The unknown journey" at the same level of awareness. With the end of Rebirth the old audience maybe upset because it's like the OG and not really an "Unknown Journey" while for the new audience it's still new. We can think that audience will be a little more privileged then. Not played. But why did they release, the year before, a remaster of a Prequel Game that spoils the background of the main character by revealing a big plot of an event not even addressed yet in the remake project (Nibelheim incident) ? And once finished (last screen in CC Reunion) invites you to continue the adventure in ... Final Fantasy 7 , not the Remake yet available. And then release a special version of a movie that is a sequel of the main story days before your second installment. Why now ? Why not with the 3rd part for the 30th anniversary ? So, what if they want the new and old audience to be aware of everything before part 3 for a major big twist. So the best moment of the OG are revisited in modern graphism but with it's own end making the OG still unique and important to play for the storytelling. Just thinking loud again lol
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix Месяц назад
@@Foxheimer These are some excellent points and fuel for the inner fire. Truly thank you. Thank you again!
@fire1ice1
@fire1ice1 2 месяца назад
Totally forgot that ending of Intermission. I wonder how that's going to fit into everything??
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
IMHO once an answer presents itself, it's going to be a bringer of smiles to consider that such an open question wasn't touched until Journey's End. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@SnowCoveredKK
@SnowCoveredKK 2 месяца назад
Your new pop filter is sounding choice, bro. Thanks for taking the advice the audio quality of your videos has just skyrocketed my dude
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the heartfelt feedback, both then and now! And thank you for watching :)
@WintersChosen
@WintersChosen 2 месяца назад
Monsieur AI... did you see the Proto Relic quests with the Fort Condor? 🌞
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
Oh yes. A vid to come! And if you haven't already, watch the most recent event in Ever Crisis, where VR and reality and time meld. Masterfully done and festooned with mysterious possibility. Thank you for watching and for the question!
@Mukation
@Mukation 2 месяца назад
One theory is that Jenova is the calamity the Gi summoned with the black materia, another is that the Cetra shunned the Gi _because_ of their prior experience with Jenova.
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
I definitely resonate that there is some connection between the Gi and Jenova... however dark that path might get, I try not to imagine. Thank you for watching and for the incites!
@Starcat5
@Starcat5 2 месяца назад
Let us be honest. The only way we are getting a Redeemed Sephy is via another Timeline where he *didn't* become a Mama's Boy and leader of Janova's Witnesses. ...and that is entirely possible right now. 😵‍💫
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 2 месяца назад
lol! Or a timeline that hasn't advanced to the Nibelheim incident yet :) Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@mrmeteor64
@mrmeteor64 Месяц назад
I have a question about AI for you? What do you feel about people using Ai to ruin voice actors?
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix Месяц назад
I feel terrible that I am part of a machine that first impacted artists and now devs. The idea of AI about a decade ago, was that repetitive jobs such as burger flipping, call centre operative, sign turning in construction, etc.; would be the first to go. Creativity was considered the hallowed domain of what it means to be human. Nearly the opposite has unfolded. Dev’s and artists are the first on the chopping block, though many call centres will be mostly AI likely by the end of this year. The only saving grace is, no vocation will go untouched by AI and robotics; some will be changed, some will become redundant (and disappear). Everyone will be impacted. This is bigger than the industrial or internet revolutions, with the closest horizon or endgame being the end of poverty, free education and medical services for everyone, etc. Companies like (name redacted… but most know who the big bad players are) using AI to replace artists (voice actors, actors, art design; the works) in the manner we are witnessing is abominable, in my humble and very emotional opinion. Fortunately many countries, including USA, are attempting to address this by forcing all AI companies’s to reveal the training data the AI’s learned from. Depending how lawsuits flow afterwards, this step won’t stop the revolution, but at least it will prevent all companies from directly profiting from an artist’s work and without the artist earning anything. Most of the big players in AI are on board for this kind of step. Sam Altman of OpenAI has said publicly that it's direly needed for people to be compensated for their work. My hope for the short term, is that companies will use voice actors for the main dialogue, and an AI trained on their voice (that the actor would be remunerated for) would be used to GenAI dialogue (off script dialogue; a ChatGPT powered NPC as example). Hopefully the enormous growing stigma surrounding companies using AI to reap additional profits at the expense of artists (whilst using the artists’ work), will show up in these companies bottom line; and they’ll be forced to consider alternate strategies.
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