FINAL FIGHT 2 HISTORY - BETTER than Streets of Rage!? 

Fun fact: In the official canon/lore, FF2 takes place at the same time as Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Guy was after bison which is why he’s not in FF2.

*Final Fight 2 is fun but Streets of Rage 2 is the best and the music is out-of-this-world!*

I just want to give a big thank you and shoutout to BIG DADDY TOP HAT, your upload schedule and quality has stayed consistent. You’ve been making this quarantine so much easier to get through and every time I see you’ve uploaded a video, life feels back to normal for just a moment.

Maki looking thicc in the thumbnail

It's so funny...I only recently found your channel and went through the Streets of Rage Quadrilogy (including remake) and finished Final Fight. Couldn't find a video on Final Fight 2...but low and behold, you heard my prayers. YEAAAAAAHHHHHHH

While Final Fight 2 looked better than the first Streets of Rage it doesn't change that the characters have less range of moves and the game can't show more than three enemies on screen at the same time and that problem remained in Final Fight 3 minus a small section where they 'fixed' the problem with all the enemies being the same character. Finally, Final Fight 2 and the first Streets of Rage portrait the main graphic differences between Super Nes and Megadrive. Super Nes graphics look better while Megadrive graphics move better, there were lots of exceptions of course but that was what happened in most games.

Streets of Rage and Cody from Final Fight and the game itself is inspired by a US film called "Streets of Fire", a flop in the US but a big hit in Japan. Cody is not only based on Cody from the film but named after him as well.

I’ve always had a real soft spot for Final Fight 2, I’ve even got the bootleg JAMMA board version of it, but it’s not a game loved by many. While it does fix all the things omitted from the FF1 port (scene transistors, 3 characters and two players) it’s very basic in terms of gameplay with little in the way of strategy or advanced techniques needed beyond simple button mashing. Also, you have to wonder what sort of research Capcom did when they designed London. The trains are nothing like ones in the UK and the background looks more like Gotham City than London.

I always thought Mike Haggar was actually inspired by Jesse Ventura.

The GBA version of Final fight was amazing, had so many extras, and Double Dragon Advanced was awesome.

Seriously, the problem with FF(2) graphics is not hardware, it's the style. Big sprites, yes, but super stiff and limited in animation. Backgrounds are colorful, but they feel like big cardboard cutouts.

You missed Guile in the background at the end of stage two.

So here's what I think they should do. Release streets of rage 4, make Final Fight 4..then make a crossover game combining both final fight and streets of rage. Then i'll wait patiently for a new golden axe :P

Man, I would've loved to hear the conversation between Haggar, Carlos, and Maki on their way to Japan. They literally flew from Hong Kong to Paris, then went around literally all of Europe, only to go to Japan, literally across the water from where they started. Imagine the money they spent pointlessly.

Haven't gone through the whole video yet, but now I am looking forward to a video on Final Fight 3 (or Final Fight Tough in some markets).

Please compare Turtles Tournament Fighters (MD/SNES). Also compare Dragon The Bruce Lee Story. Would also love to see Batman Returns, Ninja Warriors on the SNES and Two Crude Dudes on the MD. 👊

17:19 Final Fight 2 Japanese Version Mary And Eliza.

Correction: The name of the second level boss is Freddie, NOT Elias (Elias is one of the normal goons who wields a baton)

Final Fight 2 is my personal favorite in the series ( in part because I love Maki...her design, personality & playstyle just drew me in ). Can't wait for the inevitable Final Fight 3 history...and Mighty Final Fight, perhaps?

Streets of Rage is the best beat 'em up series!

Great Job as always, sir. Top shelf commentary. Loved your candid digs at our own capital cities. Fine show!

Try the Rushing Beat series. I'm sure that would make for some fun videos.

Don't sleep on the rushing beat trilogy. Those games give streets of rage and final fight a run for it

Actually SOR2 was kind of a technical marvel, because it was very difficult to do the down-right scrolling so smoothly, like in the first level, and SEGA pulled it off. You can see Guile btw in the French Aiport. Oh and my country is called Netherlands, not Holland

The thumbnail, man. That Goddam thumbnail with the panty shot!!! You wanted me to click 💥💣

Capcom should make a Final Fight remake game with its Alpha Graphics and tie in Easter eggs! That would be a dream come true!

Lol that thumbnail!!! also Sor1 music alone is better than FF2

The bonus of the first final fight is unforgettable just because the guy that says "oh my god" seeing his car destroyed... that's awesome, luckily i get to play the two series cause i had the genesis and the snes...

10:51 SF3 looking extra crispy, makes me long for a HD remake of the original.

i can't wait for you to do a video about final fight 3

Streets of Rage 1 is STILL better than Final fight 2. ESPECIALLY the music

Love your videos!!! Thank you for this!😄❤

That thumbnail makes me want to say yes. 😍

1:02 HEY! Where's my "yeeeeeeeaaaaaah"?! lol I was waiting for it.

Another great video! Please please please cover the Muscle Bomber/Saturday Night Slam Masters series???

Final fight series on the Snes couldn't hold Streets of Rage games on the Megadrive's jock strap! SOR far superior in every way.

Another game that ties in is Saturday Night Slam Masters. Any thought on doing a video on that?

9:02 The earliest downwards scrolling in a beat em up game I can remember was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade. Might be some earlier, I dunno.

I loved how roast turkey would pop out as health! First for this in 1993 for my snes

Loved the narration. A 16:9 port would be appreciated.

10:50 no mention of Guile in the background at the Hanger?!

My 2nd favorite beat em up after final fight is "Cadillacs and Dinosaurs" Can you make a video about it, it amazing

I gave up on Final Fight pretty early on, that generation. I played Rival Turf and Brawl Brothers. I think there was a third game but I never played it.

IF you finish in EXPERT MODE you see Guy coming back in the final.

what kills this game for me: max 3 enemies on screen (and it's really just 2 in çà% of the game)

I love FF2, I understand the appeal for SOR series. But there’s something about roaming Eurasia, cool soundtrack, wacky villains.

U forgot to say *'YEAH'* my friend 😊

Great channel. Thank you.

I've been saying for a long time that Final Fight 2 basically exists to make up for the shortcomings of the original game's SNES ports.

Love the mountains in the Holland stage, at least they got that right!

i like how they gave Haggar the spinning air piledriver

Love these classic games history series and all the info i did not know from some of my favourite games many years ago,i am waiting for the new Streets of rage i still think Streets of Rage 2 is the best .

i respect the clickbait thumbnail

I personally prefer a Streets of Rage one and two even though I did have the super Nintendo final fight

@ 4:40 Now that you remind me, *yes* Streets of Rage *was* really that good, Phantasy Star II though, was still better with like, an entire *year* of gameplay for me. Streets of Rage 2 was my "go to" console Fighting Game when i really didn't have one. :3

I hope you cover final fight 3 and Mighty Final Fight

13:16 Well, the Nothern Legue was in charge of the region, that's why Venice is so unkept both in the streets and in the lake. The situation didn't change much nowadays, unless you can call a lame retractable sea wall to protect the city from high water level an imporvement.

The ship stage looks like Kens stage from Street Fighter.... I think that they wanted you to know that.... that's way why it was stuck in one place for a minute

The daddy of RU-vid video content 🤗🤗🤗

12:51 Top hat!

Props THGM, love your deep dives. To be fair, never played Final Fight 2, but visually I agree it looks like a graphical and aesthetic step back from the first one. Waaaay too much dithering and cramming in of character details. I don't know what Capcom was thinking in that regard. Too loud, too busy, but takes nothing away from how much I love the first Final Fight AND it's SNES/SegaCD ports.

You forgot to tell us that there's a guile cameo on background crowd in elias boss stage.

If it hasn't been mentioned so far, you can see Guile in the background behind Elias at 10:49.

Awesome video as usual! I was extremely disappointed with this game. Graphics and gameplay weren't much of an upgrade IMO, and with Streets of Rage out there, Capcom should have really upped the ante. But they didn't.

I live in the Netherlands and I think this game’s depiction is decently accurate , especially my current soon to be ghost town. Am disappointed enemies aren’t wearing clogs. At least the boss should’ve.

Excellent video, enjoyed your Streets of Rage remake too, I hope you checked out the recent Shaq Fu game, I was blown away by it 👍

I hope you talk about Denjin Makai and Rushing Beat series sometime ^^ About this video I liked more the gameplay of SOR but my heart belongs to FF xD another thing is that again Capcom changed the girls for guys in Final Fight 2 cuz Mary and Eliza only appears in the Japanese version xD

I just bought this on 3DS so this will be fun.

I know Chun-li's cameo is a nice easter-egg and all, but i really doubt she would stay quiet eating her food while all that beating is happening in the street right in front of her, lmao xD!

Nice thumbnail!!!

The only game that I can even compare to Streets Of Rage 2 or put next to in comparison is Alien Vs Predator arcade game from Capcom. Don’t know if you have covered this beat’em up but in my opinion is definitely one of the best arcade beat’em up. Oh also Golden Axe the return of Death Adder I think is the title name from sega, is an incredible 4 player beat’em up that never made it to any home console like AVP.

One of the complaints though i had forever regarding mike hagar is that we never saw him in a SF title,since street fighter & final fight shares the same universe-world! I was hoped to see the character in SFV but again they never worked him for this game also! Instead we have the character appearing in the most unsuitable game of all that was UMVC3! Also it would be nice to see a remastered-reworked version of a collection featuring the final fight 2-3 on their beat em up bundle,since the exclusivity wear off i believe after so many years they should include also those two games on their bundle making the collection even bigger!

Even with Streets of Rage being inspired by Final Fight, and we can agree that Final Fight as such, especially the arcade version is still a tight game to play. But when Streets of Rage II arrived, Sega truly amped up everything to 11. So even Sega had trouble to top that off with their sequel. Final Fight 2 looks pale in comparison, kinda bloodless. I didn't even know this existed if it wasn't for bloody emulation.

When I went to Paris I was required to fight my way through customs, so things haven't changed. The boss at the airport was a pain in the ass.

Ohhh dude.... I know you were looking at the screen when you wrote and read the script, but Elias is one of the common roaming enemies.... He's the tall thin guy with sunglasses that carries a baton and wears a purple vest. The boss of the French stage is Freddie, who looks like he was designed off of Zangief.

Oh YEAH!!!!!!

HANDS DOWN for me personally THIS IS my favourite all time when I first played it at 6 years old when i got older for me it was therapy for me, whenever i had a bad day or some other bullshit ill throw this on and whatever was bugging me was gone when i beat it i love this game so much that two.p is my favourite bad guy in the game his design just awesome lol i just play a round with hagger this evening lol im 34 and game still as good today, tommrow im gonna introduces my 11 year old daughter hopefully she get that experience i did but if not i got to play my favourite game with my daughter lol

Final Fight 1 arcade is better than Streets of Rage 1 (though it still good). Sadly Final Fight 2 and 3 are not as good as any of the Streets of Rage games and Streets of Rage 4 looks to be the best of all if them (Final Fight 1 Arcade still is king though). Lol. On a side note; I love how your reference things "on the planet Earth" for when and where console war battles occurred.

No way. I'm a Capcom fan, but Streets Of Rage, specially SOR 2, is unbeatable. Best beat'em up for me. (Edit: and Konami's X-Men. But I find Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Captain Commando and TMNT better than Final fight too.)

I enjoyed Final Fight 2 but doing this on Expert Difficulty is a pain in the ass. Oh and I played Final Fight Guy and it feels more challenging than the original, especially when you do it in Expert.

I too prefer arcade Final Fight over Final Fight 2 on the SNES, and also agree that Streets of Rage 2 blows away its own predecessor, in addition to FF arcade, FF SNES, and this, FF2. However, that all said, FF2 does lots of things right as you mentioned Top Hat, but the biggest drawback for me, isn't the ok graphics and uninspired enemy designs. It's the challenge...or should I say lack thereof. Honestly...even on its hardest setting, the enemy characters seem to mostly just 'stand around' while you beat on them and their buddies. To me, this made the gameplay quite tedious and boring. Beat'em ups by their nature can be repetitive, but when a good challenge is presented (such as arcade Final Fight, both of Sega's first two SOR games, and even SNES Final Fight), then it keeps the player on his/her toes, knowing if they aren't up to snuff with their finger speed and proper positioning onscreen, the enemies WILL overwhelm them and end their game! This just doesn't happen in FF2. I've been known to look away from the screen while someone talks to me and while mashing on the attack button and clear a screen. I've had NON gamers sit and play the game (on the hardest setting) and do pretty well without really knowing too much about the mechanics. So that is why I will always consider Final Fight 2 a dud. Graphically, soundwise, two player inclusion...all of that is fine. And I can even put up with the dodgy enemy designs. But IMO, the lack of challenge in this game just kills it for me....and with a second player onboard, it makes the game that much easier....and boring too. Great video presentation all around though, Top Hat.

Funnily enough Holland does have mountains, but it does seem weird seeing them in a Holland section of a game. London here looks like Gotham City. Also love Chun Li sees all these dudes fighting, and thinks nah! not this time I'm eating!

Seriously dude you have such great content. I don't know why you started to relie on click bait to get views? You have so much more to offer to get people to watch your videos. You don't need the click bait to get views man.

I played this game quite a bit and I always thought that it was boring. I noticed the new characters, Haggar's redesign, I really wanted to like Carlos and Maki but again they didn't do enough innovation to warrant me keeping the game in my library when I was a kid. The 2 player co-op, new locations, story, and bonus stages were cool but there were no new fight mechanics. Carlos only used his sword for his desperation move but he would pick up a 2x4 or glass bottle to fight, just why? Lackluster to say the least, SOR2 was WAY better IMO as well.

I don't know what it is but I never really got into final fight the series. I love the Street of Rage series though.

I wouldnt mind if beat-em-ups were added to modern fighting games as a 1-4 player experience. Every time I see a final fighter in a street fighter game it always gets me. Zoom the screen back and throw a few dozen thugs at em to make it even and let em hadouken and corkscrew blow to their heart's content

Relento was one of my fav sfalpha character

Did anybody else notice he said Elias was the stage 2 boss, when it's actually Freddie?

Awesome 👏!!! Another great video top hat gaming man top 🎩! Thank you for this stuff - a great source of enjoyment during these times 😊! Also, great spotting of Chun-Li in the background of stage one😄! Too bad you unfortunately worded your description of a boss as “a clown in a top hat 🎩! A performer who is great fun punch in the face”! 🤐😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

I love this game so much !!

I like Streets of Rage cooperative attacks.

Have you get considered doing a Video documentary on characters from Final Fight or Streets if Rage? For example, I'd pick MakI, because compared to her other cast mates from other FF titles, she and Hagar have the fewest!

Having lived in Paris for almost 5 years, I had to laugh out at your remark about the city :) But yeah, accurate - awesome for visiting, but there are so many better places in France. (TBH, most metropolitan cities are like that. New York, Berlin, London, Amsterdam - I wouldn't want to live in either, but worth visiting for sure!)

i dont know if its me but I think Tifa from FF 7 was inspired by Blaze Fielding's design and look

Maki character design looks like it was based on Mai from Fatal Fury and other SNK games

The final fight games where fun but not as good as the streets of rage games. Final fight cd was damn close though

guile is present in the france stage ^^

For some weird reason, I've always prefered Mighty Final Fight (NES) over all SNES entries in the series 😅

No , Freddie looks like a slimmed down version of Zangief. Biff Slamkovich from Slam Masters is the the character SFIII'S ALEX is based on( who is in turned based on the late ECW wrestler MIKE AWESOME, HULK HOGAN, and KEVIN VON ERICH). Biff's name in Japan is actually Alex(ALEKSEI ZALAZOFF). Biff is a prototype version of Alex.

Awesome. Did you already cover Burning Fight from Snk?