Final Plunge: Titanic's HORRIFYING Last 5 Minutes 

Same. I love finding pictures of the artifacts from the ship

@@RonScuggeri-et7od I do that too. Lol

You realize it was a psyop yet?

I thought I was the only one. I want to jump in, but it's not always a pleasant experience.

I’m currently back down that rabbit hole, again.

I wouldn't say pitch black dark to where you couldn't see anything at all. Being so far out away from smog, pollution, smoke, factories, refineries, the moonlight provided enough to be able to see what you're doing, I wasn't there but I'm pretty sure moonlight helped enough.

@@TheJustUsLeague I had thought the same, but the moon phase that night was almost new moon, so there was nearly no light provided by the moon.

@@baileyyh72that’s horrible

There was no moonlight that night. @@TheJustUsLeague

@@TheJustUsLeagueIt was a moonless night. The spotters of both the titanic and Carpathia said they didn’t even see an iceberg, they saw black shapes.

I agree that the engineers were among the greatest heroes, but I feel there were so many others. Wallace Hartley and his musical ensemble are high on my list. Mrs. Strauss' staying with her husband breaks my heart (not referring to the cinematic dramatization, but the fact that she did so); she did not allow him to drown alone. Molly Brown, behaving within her usual bold personality, nonetheless exemplified courage and confidence to other women -- and men.

why? capitalist slaves lol

3rd class passenger were awaiting for instruction till the last moment and ended up imploding in their room when the ship sank to the bottom of the ocean

Father Thomas Byles was also a true hero 😇He gave up his seat on a life boat twice and eventually decided to remain on the sinking ship to hear the last confessions of the doomed.I'm sure his presence was a comfort to those who remained on the sinking vessel.I just can't imagine the terror that these poor people felt at the very end of their lives😓

Everyone would have screamed the moment the lights went out. Then the deafening silence will be apparent as distant screams of death would have been heard.

That never happened

​@@LordOfThePancakesIt did. Just Google it.

A true man of God. May he rest knowing he was doing the Lord's work. It would have been a comfort to the people left on the ship to have him with them.

Bless that man,he gave poor passengers hope in their darkness hour, bless them all✝️

Fr. Thomas Byles, pray for us!

Brute ismay ------- and Charles Lietoller on other hand ! Rest in piece indeed 🙏 father , Byles rot in hell ismay and lightoller ! 🇬🇧 enquiry embarrassing whitewash ! Least alden smith 🇺🇸 lietoller was lieing through his teeth ⚖️ 🗽 class prevailed even 8n death! ⚰️ 17 year old jack Thayer even drew a six piece drawing off the break up ! Was beside lietoller in water 💧 🤔 1st Sept 85 kid was telling truth ! Least lightoller revealed all on his deathbed to his wife and granddaughter who ✍️ a book on his confession ! Corporate manslaughter at its worst 🫡

🙏❤️ hopefully his sacrifice allowed some to unburden themselves before their final moments, God bless their souls.

Absolutely! Imagine if they had extended the bulkheads to B deck?

Or Andrews was making a guess This was a new thing

I believe Andrews belief that Titanic would sink in an hour comes from the thought that Titanic had received a 300-foot gash from her collision, rather than a few buckled plates. Had she gotten that 300-foot gash, she would have sank much quicker, and had a higher loss of life.

At least he had an additional hour or so to live before he went down with her...

She was a good ship, she stayed alive as long as she could.

Someone said they had gone to a ball game and the roar of the crowd was exactly like the panic of all the people and now I feel so weird when I’m in a roaring crowd. That joy sounds just like despair. Kinda like when crying sounds like laughing sometimes

No Dear, Titanic didn't hold up in spite of mortal damage...she had a 12 foot gash from the purposeful side hit...this was a scuttling...these are all lies...the displacement of the ship would not allow the stern to rise 5 stories, nor does water break steel or flare it out of gaping holes...the sea water was allowed to run back towards the firey coal bunkers and booom! the steel on Titanic is some of the strongest known to man. It is a purposeful shrine dedicated to the abyss, which served and continues to serve the illuminati...

thats what hell will sound like for those who might go. lots of crying and screaming. the smell of burning flesh but no one is burning to a crips, just constant burning. the pain will be so great that it should kill you, but it wont, just ongoing. and after years and decades pass, their time wont be "up" and after their sentence is served they can clean up and go to heaven. it will last for ever and ever. i dont want that to happen to me. and i wont say i dont believe it just to trick myself in to thinking i could never go. i accept that if i am not right ill go.

​@@B_Chasnikaah, the beauty of religion.

The screaming would be so annoying, the best part would be when the water would get so cold, that the people would die, and shut the hell up already

Omggg yesss,so creepy😢😢😢😢

The ocean: "Im gonna eat you 👿 Yum 😊"

I believe that is part of what makes the Titanic sinking such an enduring tragedy to so many people the world over. The sheer horror of such a death just staggers the imagination.

the same thing (terror) i feel about bridges (at night) and the fear of my car falling off, or plunging into the dark water. Funny how in the daytime it's just a bridge... but something changes when it's nighttime (the darkness, the unknown, the dark depths of the river). Same thing with the Titanic, (darkness of night) and unknown depths of the dark ocean, to swallow you beneath.

This just happened :0

That is very interesting

Do you mean a major league baseball game

@@Lebowski333 yes, which takes place in a major league ballpark.

@@jeeitherin Detroit correct?

@@JackCallSports as I've read. yeah. He couldn't go by it when a game was in session as an adult either.

Seriously. In the last half-hour, it always gives me the awe of how much the ocean needs to be respected. My heart always sinks (no pun intended), thinking of the people, and how even the biggest ships today (which are way larger than Titanic) aren't even a drop in the bucket that is the ocean. Could not imagine actually being there, and I can entirely see how it would cause survivors numerous mental health struggles for the rest of their life.

Disasters certainly have a way of stretching our perception of time when we're in the thick of one. The Miracle of the Hudson, when Flight 1549 had to ditch because of a birdstrike, only took four minutes from start to end. Pretty short amount of time in normal circumstances. But imagine being on that plane and knowing something went really wrong. That four minutes would stretch to eternity. Not only did Captain Sully and FO Jeff Skiles make decisions on the fly, they did it all right. Helps that Sully had glider experience to fall back on as well. Extremely successful ditching and no one died.

While in current times, we would definitely interpret this as you stated, I wonder how important the class distinction remained even during the final sinking. Is it possible a large percentage of the first class "snobs" ony cares about first class passengers and saw "steerage" as disposable workers and didn't "feel" the disaster happeining in front of their eyes? In Cameron's version, only Molly Brown seems concerned about thousands shouting as they are trhown into freezing water and the rest are happy to be comfy in their life boat and not wanting steerage people to board their boat. (I beleive that in Night to Remember, there was also the concept coveyed of first class folks not feelling a "human" need to rescue the 3rd class folks because more important to save themselves). While Cameron made it more dramatic, both movies were based on interviews with survivors, so there may have been some truth to that story. They may have had remorse afterwards but I have to wonder if, in the moment of the disaster, how they truly felt. This was truly a different era with different social values.

⁠@@jfmezeiHardly. 67% of first class male passengers died.

Slow motion nightmare, indeed. It took about 2½ hours before the Carpathian arrived in the scene and picked up most of the people from the lifeboats, but by that time no one who had landed in the icy water and had failed to get up into a lifeboat (or on top the overturned Collapsible boat) had survived. 😥

Yes the first 5 mins is sooo eerie

Especially the scene where some of the male passengers were kicking around the chunk of ice like a soccer ball, unaware of their fate. Makes what is to come all the more tragic.

It's weird to think Titanic is as of now still in the deepest bowels of the ocean. In the darkness. Resting forever. Never to be seen again.

Ya but hey.....at least they saved the 'RICH'....right....

A lot of the rich died too. And a lot of the poor survived@@jonathanbolz2449

Riveting, hmm. Did you hear about the boy who fell to his death between the two hulls. Did you hear about the supposed cursed mummy that was smuggled aboard, I think not. No iceberg, just cursed.

@@jaynewton5278 Utter nonsense, It hit an iceberg and sank. Reality is dangerous enough there is no need for curses, witchcraft, voodoo, tea leaf reading or tarot cards. As you stated "I think not" a perfect example of not thinking.

That’s what the Mother of Titanic survivor Eva Hart said. Eva said she told her Mother that hearing the screams of the dying was so dreadful. Her Mother said….yes, but do you remember the silence that followed…?

Survivors haunted by these sounds for the rest of their lives .

@@johnsmith-rs2vk So true. One Titanic survivor who was living near a baseball stadium said the noise from the crowd reminded her of that fateful night.

@@charliewatts6895 That's right; I forget who that was but I remember hearing about that from the other doc

In JC movie...the scene they had 2 do in the ...body field...was one of the hardest they had 2 do...seeing a movie is one thing...just imagine living thru it😭😭😵‍💫

Some of the people in the lifeboats, especially younger people, didn't realize until the very last 10-20 minutes that the ship was really going to sink *and* that most of the passengers and much of the crew were still on board and were about to die.. They thought, like, "surely those will be taken care of soon too".

"What strikes me the most whenever I see real time animations ..." ------------------------------------ For me, the most haunting and terrifying part of this calamity is the complete desolation of the surroundings > dark except for the heavenly stars, nothing here but ocean, absence of human help, the cold night air, the foreboding sense of doom. The entire scene reeks of a lonely death.

A few years ago, I sent the real time sinking animation to my cousin who is a Titanic enthusiast and asked him "imagine yourself as a passenger, at what point would you have taken the threat of a sinking ship seriously?" He replied 12:23 - "Thomas Andrews, the designer of the Titanic, confirms the damage is too severe for the ship to survive. He estimates 1-2 hours before it sinks." Personally, my moment was 1:15 - "Water is up to Titanic's nameplate."

Like 9/11 til 2nd one hit😢

​@kenthompson5723 & the complete darkness & mystery of the sea underneath.. 3 Miles down,blows my mind. This would be very diff had it been 11 AM..or, someone had the binoculars 😢😢

? how is it easy to forget? the band was still playing music!! lmao ill never forget that dumb shit

It's not easy to forget at all. That's gotta be one of the dumbest things I've heard someone say about this tragedy

So true

That means the compartments held well and did their job as much as they could, once the weight of thw water started to pull the ship apart it was over

Yeah thats the thing with ships. Once the buoyancy balance is broken the ship goes down like a rock. In this case for Titanic it was Boiler room 4 flooded which it began to do around 2AM or so. She went down like a rock.

Sinking looked so unlikely at 20 minutes that lifeboats were launched with very few people in them.

I wonder how long she could have stayed afloat if she didn’t break in half

@@maxonite Probably wouldn't have made a single difference; the ship broke in half in the middle of its plunge. If the ship had never broken apart, she'd have just dove to the bottom all the same, maybe even faster, as there wouldn't be a pause like there was when the stern settled and the flooding had to start over.

Yes. I would think it may have been comparable to going 'out' under anesthesia at the actual time of death itself, but certainly not in the minutes leading up to it. Terrifying. I was born 45 years after the event (May '57) and have always found it to be shocking, and still do. Even with shocking things happening all the time now, it doesn't lessen the Titanic's horror.

They had a horrific death. Every nerve in their body was screaming from the cold. Their heart would stop when their core temp went to +/- 90F. Drowning would have been faster. Life vests just prolonged the agony.

Thermal shock of any kind is not a fast death. It lasts minutes where as drowning takes seconds

I hope for many the ending was quick. Facing inevitable death and being incredibly uncomfortable at the same time is too much to contemplate.

Thank god 🙏

Hahahahahahaha same thought

Agreed….there are some thousands of ships sinking in history, but there is something fascinating about Titanic.

I think it's because so many things had to go precisely wrong in exactly the right way for it to happen. If even a couple of things that went wrong that night had not gone wrong she may well have survived.@@mks9469

Idling down the Mississippi at 11pm into the Gulf on something smaller than a hotel is impressive with all the dock facilities and then the oil rigs. Slipping into the Straits of Juan de Fuca heading for Vancouver at midnight likewise.

You don't really need to get a sense of panic . Looking over a large river in the dark is enough to put the fear in you at the best of times

What cruise is that? When we went on carnival it felt like city light pollution level, I wanted advanced darkness :(

@@danielkinton7193 Well you would cruise on a lightbulb

What cruise ship did you go on? Cruise ships are lit up like a christmas tree. You can't even have a starfilled sky. If you ever want to see what a dark night at sea looks like go on a yacht about 10 miles out so all the light polution is gone and turn all lights off.

That book was written about 1954, the film in 1958.

A Night To Remember is inferior in almost every way to the 1953 film, titled simply "Titanic". The former is available, gratuitously, on RU-vid. The latter one you must pay to see it. The 1953 film is superior in its script (which won the Oscar that year for best writing), its casting, its acting, and its special effects. But what makes the 1953 film terrific is its emotional ending. RU-vid does contain brief snippets of the 1953 film, which starred Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck.

One of my favourite pieces of Titanic memorabilia is one of the early editions of that book.

@@aj6954 i got that version of it and one other of the 1950s? maybe 1960 on vhs 12/09/23 6.00 Pm cst USA

@@tonyfriend7413 We once had the ANTR book, also the VHS. There was another film made in 1953 with the name Titanic starring Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck. It was one of those that just used Titanic as the backdrop. Did see it but can`t remember a thing about it. Whether the timing of it might have prompted Walter Lord to write the book I wouldn`t know.

I remember seeing it when I was 4 or 5. The boobs were fantastic

I was one of the 6 year olds. I’m miserable at 33. Would be hilarious if it was the Titanic movie that f*cked me up.

I wouldn't be surprised if it contributed to it. To see that kind of horror and brutality as a child, but not truly grasping it until much later would cause a lot of problems in teen years and adulthood. How can a parent later tell a child who saw the entirety of the sinking that all of that horror and death REALLY HAPPENED and happened THAT violently? How can any parent think letting an extremely young child see that is acceptable?@@apersonwiththoughts

The Carpathia never repeated a 17 knot run because they permanently damaged the engines that night coming to the rescue. 🫡

@@kvol1668 ah, wow - I never knew. Thanks so much for that... *thumbsup*

When the Chief Engineer of the Carpathia was later asked how they dealt with the high pressure of running the engine past max power he apparently replied "by putting his cap over the pressure gauges".

​@@kvol1668o never knew that it's amazing 👏

The band could not leave their station as they were chained to the deck by their corporate overseers

I agree. This is why the Titanic's resting place shouldn't be turned into a money-making tourist destination. People don't pay to visit memorial sites for a reason and this is a memorial site. It's so tragic. RIP to the people and animals lost aboard the Titanic.🌹❤

Calm down

@@AutismusPrime69 If you think people should be less empathic & feel less heartbroken about the lives lost in tragic events in history, that's your problem. The only thing you've accomplished is in using your disability against yourself by trying to tone-police people who express how they feel because you lack empathetic traits.

Same here, I’m captivated yet terrified . It’s that tragedy so massive that I can’t look away or ever forget about. Such a shame, it was a gorgeous elegant ocean liners that will never be replaced in its mystery and magnificence. All those souls aboard never imagined such a ship would sink. They were on their journey of a lifetime to America and were violently stripped of their lives by the dangers of Mother Nature. Never disrespect Mother Nature and think we can overpower her bc she is the most powerful force on earth.

@@AutismusPrime69 Since when are people suppose to stop caring about events in history? The only thing you've accomplished is in using your disability against yourself by tone-policing how others feel because you lack empathy.

Easy. Before it left port.

@@nole74 Classic!

Ride it down into the water.

Given how freaking cold it was I dono

With the lifejackets in 1912? Better not to jump - broken necks were an issue. In modern jackets and holding the neck? Jump but not when you’re really high out of the water.

Unfortunate ad placements

Youtibe algorithm assumes we are booking a cruise while watching the titanic sinking.

Omg was grandma was born in 1906 + was 6 yrs old when the titanic sank too. She remembered it being in the papers!!

My Great Grandmother was born in 1910, I was born in 2008. So sadly, I weren't in quite that age to ask her questions if she heard anything about the Titanic, she was 2 when the infamous Titanic sank, and I was 2 when she died.

My Oma was 5 at the time. She told me her father used to let her read from the big story in the paper. She started but then he took it away from her. She then introduced Titanic to me when I was 5 and when it was found she wanted me to "quick! Buy me a ticket to see them!" We watched it on TV later and then the movie, second only to Gone With The Wind.

@@Eusoik Boy, do I feel old. You were born in 2008? That makes you only 15. Wow. You were not even alive during 9/11. It was way before your time. To me, it still feels like yesterday.

I was born in 1983 and will turn 40 years old this Friday

Maybe he and Historic Travels should do a collab someday.

@@FirebirdFreak87 and irate gamer

The interesting part is with all the stories he's told us about this and all the intricate details I feel like I saw it with my own eyes, didn't experience it but saw it.

It’s probably all self taught which it makes it all the more incredible. His interest probably peaked with the 1997 film like many others and it sent him into a rabbit hole from which he has not escaped lol

His work certainly could be a doctoral dissertation.

screams of terror sound different

There was one survivor pulled from the water after 2.5 hours in 30 degree water. Weird thing is the guy drank a half bottle of Bourbon just prior. We’re taught that alcohol makes it worse but for him it saved his life.

@@Webedunn That was Charles Joughin (mentioned as the one who stepped off without getting his hair wet).

It would be impossible to reconcile the fact that just hours ago you had been having dinner, safe and warm with your family members. And then being left alone in the darkness, freezing cold and silent, wondering where the other lifeboats were. Wondering if your lifeboat would drift too far away and never be found, or if rescue ships couldn't find the location. It must have been just horrific. What if you knew your father, brother(s), husband or son(s) were still onboard with no lifeboats left? I wouldn't have left them, I couldn't leave them to die without me. How could you leave your teenage or young adult son(s) behind to suffer that awful fate? How could you live with yourself after that and expect to carry on? I'd never recover and wouldn't want to live without them, so I would stay and be with them in death.

In fact it wasn't Titanic that sank but it's bet up old sister ship the Olympic

@@justinloveday2410 What the hell has tinfoil got to do with anything 😐

@@justinloveday2410 Its no conspiracy when you do a basic investigation and notice something is not right.

@@justinloveday2410 Whatever

@@jackkennedy70 The Titanic actually had 2 sister ships: The Olympic was scrapped in 1935 the other was the Britannica sank in 1916.

The translation is fairly accurate. Only the first line is _technically_ a little wrong. The exact wording is "But the ship can't sink!"

It broke Ismay. He admitted afterward that he was a believer in unsinkable ships but realized there never would be one. It’s really sad that he’s been portrayed as a villain all these years. He never said “it cannot sink” on the boat and spent the rest of his life struggling with guilt and working to compensate the victims.

Bilingual, incredible. Your translation is impressive :)

I would have surely filled my pantaloons!

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What about Jack and Rose?

Great video Mr. Brady And Titanic honor and glory I'm glad that the Olympic class liners are getting so much love Hey Mr. Brady if you get this message I ordered a print from you about a month ago I On the 26th of June It's September 3rd I still haven't Tracking number I email through ocean liner designs if you could get back to me that would be greatly appreciated thank you

Hey Mr. Brady great video always I ordered a print 26th of June I got the confirmation number but I still haven't got the tracking number and it's September 3rd if you can get back to me that would be greatly appreciated I've tried emailing your ocean liner design email But I got no response If you could let me know what's going on that would be greatly appreciated thank you

@@pantherplatformvruh

@@pantherplatform Hard truth here: Reminder that Jack and Rose are fictional characters. This project's focus is more like a digital museum, so we're going to be seeing real historical aspects of the ship, its sinking, and the real-life stories of the people who were there. There won't be any references to the fictional aspects of the Cameron movie or any other fictions related to the story of Titanic. You should take some time and actually read about the content these people are creating, as the real story of Titanic is arguably just as fascinating as the fictions. And perhaps most importantly, knowing *and recognizing* what is real and what isn't.

There's one in Pigeon Forge Tennessee as well.

saw the hull door and dining plates at the exhibit in Baltimore years ago. was hard to wrap my head around the fact I was looking at a piece of the most famous shipwreck in history. incredibly somber yet unreal experience

Just like every tragedy you never were a part of, duh

the problem is the route taken-----------if the ship went toward new york at a south east angle --Hopefully no iceberg would be seen---and by lowering the speed at NIght ..more daylight would be had ...TO SEE CLEAR SEAS

They took a route that had been taken hundreds of times before. They knew there was going to be ice present. There was really no problem with the route and no surprise to find an iceberg. The super calm seas that prevented the crew from spotting bergs with the water splashing on it's base, the stupid mistake that made binoculars unavailable (IIRC) to the lookouts in the crow's nest, the reckless high speed in known ice-water, the ship's size preventing it from turning quickly, the fact that ''waterproof' compartments weren't actually waterproof up to the top of the bulkhead (facepalm) and the length of the gash from the iceberg impact all teamed up to create the catastrophe that night. But really, at the time, there was no reason to choose a different route, especially since it would've taken more time to accomplish the detour, and (again IIRC) Capt. Smith wanted to arrive in New York as fast as possible. Only with the power of retrospect could we suggest they'd take a different route. But with that same retrospect, all of the other factors I mentioned, if changed, could've saved the day too (careful speed, building the ship with actual waterproof bulkheads, having binoculars available)@@alexshatzko1381

@@jonathanallard2128🤓

You’re cursed with empathy and a good heart, I fear

It's an allegory for entropy itself.

A sinking ship is, indeed, one of the saddest of sights: I've felt the same way for a long time.

Yes, the loss of the beautiful vessel makes me very sad, but it's eclipsed by the loss of life.

Yes, there's an old Pathé newsreel clip of the Andrea Doria sinking where the very well-spoken British announcer says something similar as she slips below the waves. "All the majesty that is a ship, all the pride embodied in her being, all gone forever". Always stayed with me for some reason. ETA: found it, it was Movietone not Pathé, and the quote was slightly off, but the point stands. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DYjfSwRIqNQ.htmlsi=0CyGsgHxWNMAjvYz

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Did that actually happen how you described?

While it's true Mauretania's chief architect did in fact say this, the assumption at the time was that Titanic had received a 300-foot gash from the iceberg and we know now that's not true. The Mauretania would have sunk in about 40mins to an hour with Titanic's proportionate iceberg damage.

@@pc_buildyb0i935 That's really good to know, thank you!

Except, he was not an eyewitness, ever! Whoops!

Sinking ships are tales of absolute horror. What a horrible way to go.

Ted Bundy would have loved watching the Titanic go down

​@adamirishconundrum851 why

@@89kilemal hes sick

Hard to watch? Really? I must desensitized to the max

It was likely a thousand times more chaotic than any film or documentary could reproduce.

I think that one of the things that would haunt me for the rest of my life would be the screams and crying. Not to mention the noise the ship would make as it was starting to break up. The roaring noise of the water filling the ship, the sounds of glass busting out. The smoke stacks being ripped off and landing in the Ocean. The total helplessness the passengers were suffering from. RIP

Great analysis.@@juliethompson340

It's a horrible thought, but little did they know that they would actually be making history that awful night.

And springtime had barely started, another serious minus in the conditions the sunken were dealing with.

you're not your, but ya.

A few years ago someone recreated the sinking in the VR game rec room. Even thought it was made to be more light hearted so it was suitable for all ages it was still a sobering experience.

Take a cold plunge. And imagine not being able to get it. And then have people screaming around you. And being parted from loved ones. That's what it would've been like.

@@jackwilliams5474no one fucking cares.

You have to remember, before the 1985 discovery of the wreck, that is exactly what was believed happened. I remember it well: It was always said she rose to a 90 degree angle, settled back slightly, and sank intact at that angle. The sounds of the breakup were attributed to the boilers and engines unseating and tumbling through the bulkheads and out the bow, destroying everything in their paths. I CLEARLY remember it. That was ALWAYS the way the end was described. When the discovery came in '85, I remember how shocked I was (as was everybody else) to hear she had broken. We ALL believed she would be found intact. If you read Clive Cussler's book "Raise The TITANIC" (my first source of learning in the late '70's), written a few years before the wreck discovery, he depicts the sinking in this exact way. Even in the 1979 movie, the raised TITANIC (in which the ship is towed into New York Harbor, with the World Trade Center clearly visible in the background), the raised wreck is in one piece, with three of her 4 funnels (curiously, the 1st is there, and the SECOND missing. I was at one of the '80's THS conventions, where Ken Marschall, who had been a technical advisor to the film, said he had protested this vigorously to the director's\producers, but he was overruled by them, who thought that a missing funnel 2 would look more dramatic. Let's just say that, when I saw this in the theater, I "objected badly").

Why not release any ties and just sit in the boat where it rested and let the water reach high enough. And then just float off.

@@floxy20 That was their idea for at least one of the two boats when they realized they weren't going to have any time to get it to davits and launch it that way. But the problem is that with the deck rising higher and the chaos caused by the huge wave of water that swept over the boat deck as the plunge occurred, it's likely it would've been swamped. Where that makes any sense at all is if Titanic had been outfitted with more lifeboats or collapsible boats. But then you might have big heavy boats sliding all over the deck. It's the same as with any raft that people say the crew should've built.

I'll never understand why the two remaining collapsibles weren't simply allowed to float off the roof of the officer's quarters as collapsible A eventually did off of the boat deck. It was a miracle that collapsible A landed right side up at all using the oars as jury rigged ramps. Sixth Officer Moody seemed to be the only one keeping his head in having the right idea of suggesting to let the boat float off the boat deck when everyone else was struggling with water around their feet to drag the boat to the davits, which were already level with the sea. Both boats could have had their canvas sides raised, filled with people and rowed away when afloat. Unfortunately, Sixth Officer James Moody didn't survive the sinking. It is not known exactly where he met his end and seems to have disappeared somewhere in the final chaos. He was the most junior officer and one of the four of the eight deck officers to perish. RIP: Captain Edward John Smith, Chief Officer Henry Tingle Wilde, First Officer William McMaster Murdoch, Sixth Officer James Paul Moody.

Exactly. Lightoller knew this. Never, ever, let lifeboats go down with a ship. That’s why he launched them as soon as possible regardless of number. He was also working with an assumption of 1 to 2 hours sink time as told to him by Andrews. He did exactly the right thing. If anything, he should have launched them faster with a few less people in. The lack of lifeboats was irrelevant. Even modern cruise ships wouldn’t be able to fill their emergency lifeboats in 2 hours with 6,000 people on board at that time. People everywhere in the ship. Drunk people, separated families, panic etc.

Yes, because the crew was not effectively trained for a complete evacuation of the ship.

@@bellairefondren7389 Would have made pretty much no difference. They had a hard time to convince people to get in….

@@haycockjeff There were a lot of 3rd class passengers who were not given instructions to evacuate. Lightoller did not allow men into the lifeboats who wanted to go.

@@bellairefondren7389 They wouldn’t have had time to get to the boat deck in a organised manner vs rate of deploying the boat. Lightoller knew men were more likely to be able to survive and swim for a lifeboat after the ship had sank. He had done the grim on the spot calculations based on the knowledge he had.

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Check out Honor and Glory's most recent real-time sinking video. In several ways it's a demo reel of the game they're making, and it gets more realistic every time they update it. The true horrror of the sinking has always been known, but not at a visceral level. It's true that the closest anyone has gotten so far in encapsulating that horror has been Cameron's movie. But when the Honor and Glory game is finally completed, it might outclass Cameron's movie on the fright factor. The game will be VR-compatible so you'll be able to experience that horror from a first-person perspective.

Or they chose to die upon impact hitting the water instead of drowning. They reminded me of the jumpers of 9/11 who leapt to their deaths from the Twin Towers because they didn't want to get electrocuted (as some floors' sprinkling systems turned on and the ceiling crashing, releasing broken live wiring or to not be consumed by the flames. Instinct in these situations just take over during these horrific times. 😢

@@myridean2k4 I remember those who decided to jump vs stay in the towers...The Falling Man isn't something you're going to easily forget. Instinct is kind of funny; as Michael said it was instinctual for passengers to try and get as far away from the icy waters as possible. When fear overrides logic, then that's when things go to hell.

frightening only if you let it be

I’m really sorry for your loss of your brother 👦. That sounds awful 😞

Sorry for your loss 🙏

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Titanic and Fitz are my go to case studies. Fascinating indeed

@@Mark-ly4lq Very recently I've been looking more into losses of the Edmund Fitzgerald, Carl D Bradley and Daniel J Morrell... The Great Lakes seem like a terrifying place to be during a storm for sure!

Like you, I've also studied everything I can find about the Titanic for decades. Somehow I missed the fact that the ship's steam whistles were recovered several years ago. I learned about that today from a video Mike Brady posted on his other channel (Mike Brady). Look it up if you haven't already... Hearing them is awesome.

Perhaps the place where she could have hit to last longer would have been straight bow-on collision. Would have probably smashed the hull perhaps as far back as the foremast and would have been one hell of an impact (at 20+ knots) for everyone and everything not bolted down. But possibly could have survived with only 2-3 compartments flooded.

Ships came to help her, they were just too far to come in time before she sank. To say "no one will come to help the grand new liner in her darkest moment" is absolutely untrue.

@@bookemdanno5596 I think they meant no one came *in time* to help.

@@jonathanallard2128 exactly

Funny he said that, because the Titanic sank with no suction. If a ship the size of the Titanic doesn't create a suction when she sinks, then nothing will. Also, if this old myth were true, no flatsam would ever be left floating after a ship sank, yet sinking ships leave all kind of debris at the surface...

Yeah no shit

Says who?

What did she tell you

Yes it does, friend, yes it does. What is horrible is trying to get a full breath.

I'll recommend something that was recommended to me countless times, before I finally caved in and did it: Get a copy of and read the book _"On A Sea Of Glass: The Life & Loss Of The RMS Titanic"_ which covers everything that happened that night (along with the entire history of the Titanic before and after) in such painstaking detail by using compiled rare/unique survivor accounts (well beyond just the typical, famous or well known accounts) to paint a profoundly vivid and exhaustive picture of what took place that night. It's like _THE_ book to read - even if you're only interested in the actual sinking of the Titanic and not necessarily the entire history.

Blah blah blah. Shut up

No, they wouldn't have been saved. In fact, Mythbusters tested this. Buyoancy would have still kept most people in the water, which would have subjected them to hypothermia. Those doors may have supported children, bust most adults would have been out of luck.

@@Tomb-Wraith I’m talking making a big giant raft. Not individual pieces of wood.

@anthonyromeo1988 Then you're being extremely unrealistic.

@@Tomb-Wraith desperate times call for desperate measures. Lots of people still would have died. But it’s better than waiting for a ship that clearly wasn’t going to make it

@@Tomb-Wraith "hypothermia". Hyperthermia means overheating.

There is an excellent old movie called Titanic. It didn't hold back on the human tragedy, in this account. However it was long before woke.

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I just got off a cruise from Southhampton. The Titanic left from that port. As I boarded the ship I couldn't help but remember the Titanic.

Wow, you're worse than I am! I saw Titanic 10 times originally, then twice more in 3D. And yeah, countless times on VHS and then DVD.

I can enjoy watching a good film again once or twice but 15 times ??? Maybe over a period of many decades… or a lifetime.

@@kathythompson2434 Kathy, every time I watched Titanic, I saw something new. In fact, I still do. When a film is such a masterpiece, it's worth watching over and over again, at least by me!

@@Rick_King High Rick, …. ok yes l can understand that and hope you continue to get enjoyment out of it many more times in the future.👍

I got J. Bruce Ismay and it felt like a hammer to my chest. Going through the exhibit knowing a lot about him and how he’d be feeling was full of so many emotions: pride, disbelief, horror…I was nearly in tears by the end. If he’d stayed he’d only have been another of the dead. It wouldn’t really have saved anyone else either. And yet he went through the rest of his life vilified for surviving. He must have been in an emotional agony and then to see everyone turn on him. Poor man. I truly feel sorry for him.

I agree, the thought of the stern actually imploding makes total sense, because of the way it sank it seems only natural that there would be a large air pocket inside but it's still odd to think about a ship like the titanic actually imploding, and especially that people actually heard it. Plus, the debris coming up out of the water must have been terrifying, imagine getting hit with a dresser or something big and heavy that has been gathering speed it's entire trip to the surface, bursting out of the water with incredible strength. I imagine even getting the wind knocked out of you would be fatal in that cold of water, imagine taking a full on piece of debris to the face outta nowhere.

I wish there were an animation of the stern and bows real-time desent from the surface until impact on the ocean floor. It would also be neat to see a time-lapse animation of the Titanics deterioration from the impact on the ocean floor until today. The paint is still visible on one side of the bows hull, and I've heard that the rest of the paint would've been gone by the late 1920s.

@@MrSavagebeast04 I saw a photo montage that at times came close to looking like a proper time lapse for certain well imaged parts of the ship. Or as close as you can get with something that is a few miles under the water and basically in the middle of nowhere. I forget where it was I saw that. Most of it was just 1, 2 maybe 3 images. But a couple of parts had maybe 10 or so. It used images from 20 or 30 years worth of people going down there. The "video" of Mount St. Helens blowing its side out was actually stitched together using a set of photographs. Perhaps this could be done with some parts... Also why do I feel like the History Channel did a time lapse of Titanic deteriorating already?

​@@MrSavagebeast04Phil over at _Titanic Animations_ has a real-time descent video. If you're interested in the actual physics, forensic scientist Dr Charles Pellegrino has published a few books on the subject, from his time diving with the French salvagers in the late eighties, to working as a technical consultant for James Cameron and Ed Marsh in the early oughties.

They passed at great distance

the painting somewhat romanticizes the event: while the two sisters did pass, it was at a much greater distance, almost out of sight.

At the time of Titanic's sinking they were almost passing each other too, Olympic was further north, 500 miles, that's pretty close given the size of the Atlantic. If not for the thick ice field, Olympic could have been on site just 11 hours after the distress call, or 8 hours after the sinking, (23 knots means 500 miles in round about 11 hours), and was still making good progress in doing just that until they figured that seeing "another Titanic" might not be too fun for the survivors.

It's a real life horror story indeed. Just wondering though, how far was the Titanic from New York? Did they sink in the middle of the Atlantic or were they not too far off the US east coast?

@@45wasright43 it was in the middle North Atlantic. 1,246 miles from New York

He gets a lot of much-deserved flak for shipping out lifeboats with hardly any passengers because he believed no men - not even fathers and husbands - should board until all the women and children left the ship, a policy that likely got dozens of people killed compared to Murdock’s more pragmatic leadership.

@@siphillis made up for that as a Destroyer commander in WW1 and at Dunkirk

He was a monster

If you didn't know, this is TitanicHG's footage/model, and they've been partners with Oceanliner Designs for a while. Pretty sure most of the footage in these videos are from them. Props to them for all this research.

To be fair, at the time the way Cameron did it was a good guess. I forget if he had carpeting in the 1st class dining room, because Olympic didn't but Titanic did. According to a crewmembers in A Night To Remember, "you sank into it up to your knees". He seemed convinced Titanic was much better than Olympic, he said immense care and attention to detail and perfectionism went into Titanic with many little details, like the thick carpeting, the extended bridge wings etc..

@@user-lv7ph7hs7l Cameron got scammed by a company that claimed they actually created the Axminster carpet for Titanic's 1st Class dining room. But in reality Titanic didn't have a carpet in its 1st Class dining room she had it only in the reception area in front of it. WSL used linoleum as a floor cover in its 1st class dining rooms because in a room where a lot of food and drinks can be spilled at the rough sea a carpet would have been a nightmare to maintain. For the same reason the walls were covered with simple oak panels coated with washable white paint.

@@CzechMirco The stewards of Titanic disagree with you, the crew always insisted Titanic was much better, built with much more attention to detail such as the lush carpet inthe 1st dining room, "so deep you sank into it up to your knees" according to a 1st class steward, this is from the book A Night To Remembe by Walter Lord who interviewed many including that steward.

Thats not something i knew enough to realise so I appreciate this comment, and also appreciate this attempt at detail. May i say i found this the most touching recount from an interpersonal perspective as to the movements of the persons aboard and what they faced in their final moments. Perhaps it is irrelevant but i feel like the worst fate is being trapped and drowning and the idea of persons getting out and then being dragged back by suction horrifies me, id rather freeze than drown. Not that either fate is ideal…perhaps thats stupidity on my part…altho at that temp neither would be very slow, i believe those in the water had mere mins? But i could be mistaken