FINAL REVIEW: E-flite Cirrus SR22T 1.5m

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0:00 Introduction
1:00 Center of Gravity \ Physical Mods
2:00 Ground Handling
3:04 Takeoff
3:40 Inverted Performance \ 4 Point Rolls \ KE Spin
4:25 Slow Flap Passes \ Hammerhead Performance
5:24 KE Spin \ Low Inverted Performance \ Inverted Caution
6:42 Touch & Go \ Knife Edge Passes & Performance
8:22 Inverted Catch Rolls \ Inverted Instability \ Slow Flap Pass
8:55 Rolling Harrier Attempt \ Landing
9:33 Ground Handling Test \ Thoughts
10:31 Tony's Preflight
11:13 Tony's Takeoff & Aerobatic Performance Flying
15:45 Tony's Landing & Thoughts
16:56 Preflight \ Takeoff
17:38 Thoughts \ Snap Roll \ Flat Spin
18:24 Tail Slide \ Violent Blender \ Weird Stick Response at Nearly Neutral CG
19:15 KE Spin Tests w/ Flaps
20:02 Thoughts \ Snap Roll \ Flat Spin \ Snap Flaps
20:55 Reverse Thrust Test Mid-air
21:22 KE Pass
21:51 Aerobatic Potential Thoughts
22:47 Accelerated Stall Testing
23:55 Strong Wind Shear \ Landing \ Shear Thoughts
25:08 Final Review Thoughts & JonScore™
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@larryclarke2119 4 месяца назад

The absolute best RC plane channel on RU-vid.

@enzok6414 2 года назад

Nicely done guys! Applause to HH for bringing this bird back. It has become the best civilian plane to fly in my collection.

@dogfoodking 2 года назад

Nice video guys.... love the flat spin.

@pamkey5621 2 года назад

3:37- “representation of what the real one flys like” -Proceeds to fly it inverted

@RCPlaneAddict 2 года назад

Great job Jon. Your an amazing pilot. Just to note, Horizon is now attaching an addendum sheet for the new cg at about 53mm, and that is where is balance my battery. It flies like a dream. Thanks for sharing.

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

That's what mine said too - but I wanted to test out moving the CG further back to see how that helped or hindered flight performance. Thanks man!

@richardfinnegan1252 Год назад

Love. This plan, it is one of the best prop plane out there.

@leomiliades7341 Год назад

Subscribed! Thank you for the education guys - I like the idea showing the transmitter moves vs the actual plane - great idea for some of us to learn.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Good to have you onboard! We've largely stopped doing that lately - it's only something we'll be doing for tutorial videos going forward.

@suckafish2k9 4 месяца назад

I was in Durham and Cary yesterday! I definitely have to stop by Hangar 18 the next time I'm there. I'm currently awaiting my order from HH that includes the Cirrus SR22T; probably the reason RU-vid populated my feed with your vid! Gotta luv those algorithms lol. Love the channel🙏🏾

@TwoBrosRC 4 месяца назад

Thanks man! Our format has changed significantly since this video posted. Tony doesn't really fly with us anymore (too busy with work/pilot training) so Jon's wife does the filming these days, along with a fellow named Ciarán that we met on RC Groups. We focus almost exclusively on voiceover content now, which makes it a lot easier to focus on flying and make fewer mistakes.

@suckafish2k9 4 месяца назад

@TwoBrosRC I think I've been a subscriber for about a month or so and I've noticed that. And funny you mentioned Tony bc I literally caught myself saying, "the guy has some nice moves!" Was the first time seeing someone other than yourself fly on your channel:)). I only hope to get as good as you guys. Hopefully my Timber Evo and Cirrus will help get me there😎👌🏾

@TwoBrosRC 4 месяца назад

We went through five Timbers before getting to this point. You'll get there. Keep at it and practice - you'll pick it up.

@suckafish2k9 4 месяца назад

@TwoBrosRC I'm currently in the middle of repairing mine! 🤣 Just waiting for that 800kv motor to come in. B/t going thru a Habu STS and an SS, ik all about dropping aircrafts to get better! Lol. Just another learning moment!

@KB_RC 2 года назад

Nice Jon! Man now I can’t decide if I want this or the Turbo Timber Evo for Oshkosh lol! Thanks! Great video! You do some crazy things with that SR22!

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

The answer is "it depends on what you want to do" - 3D maneuvers will be more possible on the Turbo Evo. Scale with limited 3D will be possible on the Cirrus.

@KB_RC 2 года назад

@@TwoBrosRC Yes… mainly just want something for Oshkosh but either one would be perfect!!! Won’t be doing much 3D flying there. If I get the Evo it will be for STOL flying. Actually, yeah I’m sticking with the Evo! I want a float plane again finally! Lol.

@old-rcplane-phart 2 года назад

Go up higher than normal into a hammer head. AS you start the turn, hit reverse. 3/4 to full throttle full ailerons. 2 or so spins get OUT of reverse. It feels strange, but looks really cool! Granted, its coolER on the ultimate 3d bipe! 😁

@looneytunes47 Год назад

Yeah your flaps are set alittle extreme Jon if your buddy there had a little more throttle he woulda landed just fine otherwise. and Thanks So much for always showing your hands on the sticks while your making manuvers and stunts, that helps a whole bunch on helping people learn faster....its a challenging hobby and thats why i love it so much

@shanehoule9477 2 года назад

Awsum

@mattoprc 2 года назад

Excellent camera job! What model of camcorder do you use? I think your channel is undervalued, you have high quality content!

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

This was shot using an iPhone 13 Pro. Thanks!

@mattcook5302 2 года назад

I have 0 complaints with mine.

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

Not many here either.

@mattcook5302 2 года назад

Other than the servos, even that didn't really bother me.

@itzjoeylo4501 11 месяцев назад

Mine just shipped on Thursday

@TwoBrosRC 11 месяцев назад

📦

@flyingfools47 Год назад

I've found that the Cirrus actually does excellent knife edge spins if you use full left rudder instead of right rudder, as well as full forward elevator and full left aileron. I've only done this with the recommended CG, I haven't tried it with the CG further back

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Wonder why that would be the case. We'll have to remember to try it the next time we take it up.

@flyingfools47 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC My rudder throws aren't nearly as high as yours, so if it doesn't work with your throws I would experiment with using smaller left rudder inputs. I also use full power during the KE spin forgot to mention that

@FFE-js2zp 2 года назад

Good flight demo. I dunno, $300 seems steep for an efficient cross country cruiser. I guess 1.5m is a little bigger than some, which adds some value. Usually XC cruisers have some wing reflex to reduce the negative lift requirement from the elevator, that way they can make the elevator a little smaller. I’m guessing horizon missed that subtle airfoil detail, so the elevator would become too small for the wing area. You might be able to put some reflex back into the airfoil if the flaps and ailerons will all deflect up a degree or two. Basically, adding a smidge of reflex is going to make the plane a little more “flying wing” and a little less tail config. It’ll probable help your knife edge instability since the wing itself, rather than the tail, will help control the lift pitch moment.

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

I have it set up for crow so I can adjust how much the ailerons pitch up at any point. That's an interesting idea.

@FFE-js2zp 2 года назад

@@TwoBrosRC You could make it adjustable, or I was thinking you could hardwire it. It would be less risky to make it switchable/adjustable. It looks like the flaps are hinged like fowlers on a single channel, but can you deflect them up at all with negative subtrim or by adjusting pushrod length or clevis/ball joint position? It wouldn’t take much. Maybe 2 degrees.

@FFE-js2zp 2 года назад

@@TwoBrosRC Missing airfoil reflex also explains why Tony ran out of elevator authority in the flare endgame. Basically, both the horizontal stab and elevator are close to scale, which becomes too small for a less aerodynamically sophisticated model’s wing, so it relies a little too much on airspeed to counter the natural pitch-down moment of a cambered wing. You can see the airplane pivots around the lateral axis too easily, basically all the time. That also squares with it wanting to pitch forward in a slow knife edge and backward in a fast knife edge. It’s just a minor design flaw with Horizon not understanding that these high speed civil XC cruisers are set up like a hybrid Flying Wing/Tail Config airplane to reduce tail size, tail weight, tail negative lift, and elevator induced drag, too squeeze out knots.

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

@@FFE-js2zp That's absolutely fascinating. I'll have to remember that for the next flight. Thanks man!

@williewonka1970 Год назад

Inverted flat spins are cool to do with this plane...just be aware that sometimes it doesn't come out of it...unless you chop the throttle.

@tughillrc6327 2 года назад

Enjoyed the honest review and will consider purchasing it if it goes on sell. The question I have is would this be in the top 10 planes you would want to fly? ( Be Honest )👍👍

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

Top 10 of every airplane out there? Definitely not - there's a lot of things I want to fly and this one doesn't top the list of the top 10 I'd like to fly most. That isn't to say that I don't enjoy it - I rather do, actually.

@tughillrc6327 2 года назад

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks, I own 60 planes already not sure I want to add this to my hanger

@Streetreaper89 Год назад

@ 14:00 time he mentioned turbo timber evo elevator came loose and crashed just same thing happen to me.

@LoveRC Год назад

Did you move the ESC? My plane rolls right when you balance the tail and nose cone. I had to trim it left. Thinking of moving the ESC or taping a coin on the left wing.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Nope, no movement was made.

@LoveRC Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC it’s bizarre that it is unbalanced.

@jared6072 2 года назад

Man im torn between the eflite rv7 and cirrus. Both your reviews of them made them look like alot of fun to fly. After flying them both, which would you have when it comes to fun factor?

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

Honestly, I wouldn't mind having another RV-7 just to make it reverse hover again. That trick was friggin' congress, man. Loved it. The Cirrus is more graceful and honestly more enjoyable to fly and land, and the KE spins it does are way more interesting. It really just comes down to personal preference. I'd stick with the Cirrus if I had to choose.

@micheleg9492 Год назад

Hi I hope you can help me the rudder rate and steering it’s to low for me I did the setup by the book it’s that normal ?. I believe you have more control as I can see any tips ? Elevator aileron are ok

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

You might have to unlock the receiver and reprogram it - that way you can get 150% travel. Our Cirrus was modified with new servos before we flew it. The info is in this vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cwS3Dqm4VjQ.html

@MrDOZA28 Год назад

Would you recommend this as an option for a first low wing? I started flying 6 months ago with a Maule and i`m now looking at my next plane as im starting to do basic Aero moves. I like the looks of this one.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

It's definitely docile enough to be a great low wing experience for your first foray into it. Definitely comes highly recommended! Just be careful to make sure the wings are level when you bring it in to land so you don't scrape up the wingtips. If you do, you can patch over any scrapes using white electrical tape - which itself works as fantastic foam armor. You can pick one up via bit.ly/3AouT9Z if you'd like to support us.

@MrDOZA28 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC Excellent. 👍 Thanks for the tip on the landings 👌

@memcrew1 2 года назад

A wing will drop in a stall, if the stall is not coordinated(correct rudder input) that’s how it’s taught and performed in full scale. If you apply the correct rudder(coordinated) the wing will not drop in a stall. It will stall straight ahead.

@TwoBrosRC 2 года назад

I'm not 100% sold on that given the tendency of foam aircraft to fly similar but distinct from their full scale counterparts.

@memcrew1 2 года назад

@@TwoBrosRC that would be a good experiment, besides the physics of aerodynamics wouldn’t change.

@thermzilla1453 Год назад

Just got mine all set up and bound to my NX6. Everyrhing works perfect on it except the rudder/front wheel only gives very minimal throw. The plane won't even turn on the ground with full rudder. The nose gear is connected properly and turns the servo and the rudder all the way in both directions but will not turn with full rudder applied on TX. Anyone have any ideas?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Check your rates and make sure the servo is moving fully. If it isn't, replace the servo.

@RichieRich980215 Год назад

Hi Jon, on my NX8 I can’t find the Audio event for Forward Trust & Reverse Trust. Is that because you have a Specktum IE 20? Also how do you delete a Audio event on a switch? Thank in advance Jon! 👍

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

IX radios use Android text to speech for callouts - you'd have to find a pre-made macro in the audio events section of your radio to get something similar. The manual should have the info regarding removing events.

@djr01974 9 месяцев назад

Hi did you upgrade the servos on this? Do you a recommend metal servo for this

@TwoBrosRC 9 месяцев назад

tinyurl.com/B11DLS servos are what we used. The maiden vid covered the setup info.

@anthonypkaiser Год назад

If you had to pick one plane. Sr22t , Commander or Turbo timber evo?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We fortunately don't have to pick, but it would be the Timber because there's more aero and 3D possibilities with it.

@anthonypkaiser Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC thank you and I enjoy your reviews.

@Angelo-dj7fs 10 месяцев назад

Hi, I'm Angelo.. Can you show me how calculate the center of gravity, And how to mark the exact points on the wings?

@TwoBrosRC 10 месяцев назад

Google "RC plane center of gravity" and you'll have the info you need.

@dalezesiger9873 Год назад

Sir. I very much enjoyed your video on this SR22. Mine just arrived, and I am wanting to emulate your servo swap; however, I cannot find a metal gear servo anywhere that will work for the rudder/nose gear. No one has a sub micro with a dual control horn. I did update and reset the AR637TA to open stock, so I should be able to use any suitable metal sub micro, preferably in 13 gram. Thanks for any help you can offer! Dale

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We use tinyurl.com/B11DLS servos. Check our maiden review for the info on installing them.

@dalezesiger9873 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC Thank you for the reply. I have been trying to find the maiden review...guess I'm too dumb to find it!

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

@@dalezesiger9873 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cwS3Dqm4VjQ.html

@dalezesiger9873 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC Yeah, I have that video. It is the one I have been watching. Guess I got the impression there was another one that shows what servos you installed (and how)... I checked the link you sent me, and I am a little confused because those servos are micro, not sub micro. I made that mistake before and could not get them to fit. So sorry for the trouble, but I was really impressed with your setup. Thanks!

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

@@dalezesiger9873 the servos we linked will fit after sanding them down slightly to fit into the pockets they're meant for. It takes a few moments.

@enriquech4041 Год назад

By the way you use your radio, I guess you change gimbals a lot¡¡¡ LOL

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Uhh, nope. We're still on the same set after nearly two years of constant use.

@JPh35 Год назад

Hello brothers. Did you try to fly with New Kavan Bristell B23 ? Similar plane and size. Honestly, what are the low points of this Cirrus ? And the higher ones ? JPh. France

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We've never flown that model - but the low point of this model is that it can be tricky to land well, but is otherwise well built and looks fantastic and flies the part too.

@JPh35 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC hello brothers. >> Tricky to Land? Usually, with good rate of flaps it is easy and help to Land, no? Flaps are on inter 3 positions or knub button ? Knub is top cause you can choice your own level of activation, appropriate with conditions of wind and speed plane. For taking off and landing phases. What about the assembly of wings on the field? Screw is necessary, correct? That could be a Bad point. Thks for your reading. JPh (France)

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

@@JPh35 We said "tricky to land well", not "tricky to land" - the difference being that gentle landings can be tricky. Wing assembly is not difficult at all.