I moved from Home Assistant to Homey Pro. As a software developer myself I'm not unable to write YAML files all day to automate my home, I just don't want to. I have no desire to manage a Linux device in my free time just to switch on my Hue lights. Homey Pro is like an Apple device: it's expensive, but it WORKS.
I'm looking for a smart home brain for my house for local control when my internet goes down what do you reccomend honey pro or hubitat my coding experience is limited but I am a computer and technology guy I want something that works reliably
I am a Wink refugee that settled into Habitat. I manage 2 homes with smart devices and Hubitats. Is this worth moving my refugee camp from Hubitat to this or should I continue to get settled in?
If your devices are compatible with the homey pro (or if you want an excuse to get new devices) I say go for it! Automating with Flows are a much different experience than using rule machine and in my opinion significantly better. If you like using rule machine, stick with it. But if it makes you want to pull your hair out (like it did for me) you’ll probably love the homey pro. Overall the homey pro is just a much more polished platform than Hubitat.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Thank you for the reply! Love the channel btw. I think I will keep an eye on it and when I need to upgrade, I will pull the trigger. The thought of migrating 100+ devices terrifies me.
Even in Europe there are quite a few devices that Homey does not know, however, the biggest problem is that it is not open source, nor are the community apps. That means that upon a major update, a lot of apps no longer work until the developer feels like updating. If they don’t, well, that’s it. I’ve had that in the last few years so often, I’ve moved to Home Assistant since everything is open source and unsupported integrations are quickly forked by other developers.
Good to know. I've only had it for a little bit, but didn't notice anything getting messed up with the recent 10.2 update. Did you notice this happen with official apps, too, or just with community apps?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 The official apps are mostly fine. The main problems I had were seen with major updates (so for you to 11.0), as that usually included significant code changes. I've had critical apps (for me) stop functioning and not being maintained by the community developer. If you read the forum you'll see that the relationship between Athom and developer community is very poor which does not help. The flow-function is very good but was a paid upgrade for my, already expensive, system. I find Node-Red in HA equally simple to use. In general I think that Homey is very good for a starting home automation but once things become more complex, it is just to limited in compatibility and functionality.
I’m in Europe and I’ve been on Homey since 2019 and the only time this has been a problem is with the release of their latest hub (the one you are reviewing) because it’s such a major update. I believe that the problem is that many of the community apps are several years old and have been just working for a long time, so the developers didn’t have to support them for a long time, and all of a sudden when the new hub came out, it turns out that many of the devs for the community developed apps are no longer around to update them. However, my feeling is that the tempo with new apps and updates of old ones are being pushed a lot right now, especially with the US launch. I’m feeling confident that this will give Homey the well deserved push from many major vendors to release their own official apps. I have 100+ devices connected to my hub through Zwave, Zigbee, Wifi, 433MHz and IR and I haven’t experienced any problems during the years with Homey. I guess this can be a result from my strategy to mainly stick to the bigger brands with well supported apps.
Is there a way to convert to HomeyPro from another Hub, such as Smarthing or Hubitat, without going through the exclusion and inclusion on the new hub?
The issue with Homey he mentions; that it cannot controll a lot of US-made brands. Well thats exactly the issue I got with Hubitat as an european user. But honestly, the difference I can see is that with Homey a lot of devices are actually added to there compabillity-list wheres not much is beeing added to Hubitat.
I'm currently using home automation software that runs on the Mac and supports Insteon, which has been reliable but appears to be pretty much on the verge of collapse. My Insteon devices are mainly switches, plugs, and motions sensors. I'm considering on switching to either Homey Pro or Hubitat. Anyone switched from Hubitat to Homey Pro, and if so why?
I run both Hubitat and Homey pro. If I was starting fresh with just one, I would definitely go with Homey for the ease of use. As a Mac user, you will appreciate the thought they put into the user interface compared to Hubitat’s borderline distain for aesthetics.
I'm not very familiar with how Crestron communicates with other systems, but it looks like some people have been able to connect the Homey Pro and Crestron using the Homey API key. You can read about the homey API here: support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/8178797067292-Getting-started-with-API-Keys
I had the original home pro and still use it integrated into HAnwith mqtt running 433 mhz stuff, I wouldn’t buy into the homey vision again, too many failed promises
Spend $400 and be prepared to re program your entire home, OR if like me, you already have your entire home automated without a Homey, just using Google Home and their automation routines. Yes, you will need a solution for BlueTooth and Zigbee items but I have fixed that with a $5 bluetooth bridge and a $25 Zigbee bridge . So please explain to me why I will be a better citizen (and save money) with a Homey.
I don't think any hub will make you a better citizen and you definitely won't save money with a Homey Pro. But you will get local control of your automations that you don't get with Google Home. Plus you'll be able to do much more powerful automations with an easier user interface. In fact, you can learn more about it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wmIQj2OF88w.html
I thought PRICE would have been the 1 factor, 400.00 seems pretty high, but I am just getting into this and moving away from random wifi bulbs and stuff.
Yes, it is expensive, but in my opinion the time and frustration you save over other systems is worth it. When you considering the amount of money you'll spend in total automating your house, spending a little more up front to get the system you want vs. saving money and dealing with a hub you don't enjoy for years to come seems like the wise choice.
@@giovannivanhaaren9885 For $400, I got a full survey that runs home assistant with no internet, it also is a Time Machine backup for me and my wife's MacBooks, a pi-hole, a Plex server, my password manager server (vaultwarden) a DHCP router, and more. There is no world where Homey is worth the same as all of that combined, even if you don't want to learn home assistant.
Hubitat could be the home automation market king if they invested in the user experience. It’s good to see a powerful hub that makes home automation more approachable.
Agree! I have a Hubitat C7 but for me as an European user Hubitat just doesnt work with enough devices. And the user friendlines is not something to write home about. So as soon as I can afford it, I’m gonna switch over to Homey.
Zooz! They added that since I recorded the video. That is great news. Don't know if Wyze is in the pipeline or not but they do seem committed to the US market
i'm a long time homey pro 2016 edition user and one thing which is not mentioend is the long support. I'm still getting support for their first product and almost all the new features like advanced flows.
My Ring integration works just fine. Don't know anything about Dyson. I'd recommend posting in the Homey online community and see if they have any answers. Wish I had more info for you
I got to say that I really like the idea of this hub. I am skeptical generally speaking of putting all my eggs in one basket, but it definitely seems like a one size fits all solution for the smart home. There is a bit of sticker shock, but if you consider The price of separate hubs with all the different radios, I think it's reasonable. Great review!
With LG buying Homey do you think it will go down hill like it did with Samsung Smarthings. I currently have Smarthings and want to switch but don't want to make the same mistake. Thanks
Hard to say. The homey founders are insisting they aren’t leaving and the investment will only make the product better. But we all know what happened with SmartThings so it’s hard not to be suspicious.
I have used Homey Bridge for more than a year on the American continent. It's cheaper but it's cloud based. I would like to try Homey Pro. And yes, compatibility with what you can get on this side of the planet is not big.
The homey pro gives you access to community apps, which definitely expands the compatibility over the homey bridge, but I still look forward to the day when they improve their generic device compatibility.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 yes, it has much more to offer than the bidge. I will try it out. And like you said, for someone starting it's one of the best options.
You connect your network adaptor wrong to the Homey. The network adaptor needs to connect to the power supply, not directly to the Homey. If you do this it works but you get connection problems al te time.
You’re right. I’ve just been using it on WiFi, which has worked great but when I filmed that bit I should have been a little more careful. Thanks for the clarification.
The Hubitat online community is pretty great! The homey community seems fairly active and there are a bunch of community apps, but I haven’t spent enough time in it to compare the two.
homey pro connects directly to zegbee, matter, zwave plus, etc or still need hub for each device. I would like to buy it to replace HA. hello thank you from Italy
Homey pro does connect directly to zigbee, matter and zwave devices. Just make sure the device you want to connect are compatible. Check the homey pro App Store to see if the brands you use are there
LAN devices are a piece of cake, but zigbee/zwave you’ll have to remove from Hubitat and re-add just like switching to any other platform. I personally haven’t had any issues moving my GE switches, but I haven’t moved a ton because I’m in still making content with the Hubitat and testing them in home assistant. A friend of mine said he’s experienced some trouble with some older generation GE dimmers but they are so far working fine for me.
Ideally it would replace your smartthings hub, but you may want to keep it running if there are a few integrations that are not yet in the Homey system.
I think I sort of want to try this out. I’ve built a smart home a long time ago using smart things version 1. Was not happy and ended up scrapping it all. Didn’t do it again for awhile until I found out about home assistant. This was great until it wasn’t. Things started breaking and I ended up having to fix some things and due to how difficult it was to get running in the first place for me, I left things broken for awhile before fixing. I eventually fixed things. It didn’t last long. I don’t know what I was doing wrong but that’s sort of the issue. It’s too complicated for me to understand everything I’m doing since a lot of it is copy and paste from what others do online so I don’t know what I’m doing to make things work either. I eventually gave up on it too. HomeyPro sounds like it may just be the solution. Question though I really like a lot of aqara stuff and already have some. Does homeypro support aqara at all.
I had really good luck with the Aqara p1 motion sensor getting that connected. They don’t support every Aqara device but they do work with a lot of them. You can see their Aqara compatibility here; homey.app/en-us/app/com.xiaomi-mi/Aqara/
