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Finally, a true Aperiodic Monotile! 

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@thismianeptunis
@thismianeptunis Год назад
The result is actually even slightly better than what's in the video! The squiggly edges aren't actually necessary to prevent periodic tilings. What they do is prevent the shape from tiling with its reflection (which the basic straight-sided shape *is* capable of doing). Turns out all periodic tilings with the basic shape require the reflection as well, so if you're comfortable simply excluding the mirror image on the grounds that it's a different shape, then the non-squiggly version is already aperiodic! The squiggly version just gives the added bonus that you have no choice but to exclude the reflection (because the squiggles won't mesh), removing every last trace of ambiguity. Also I love that I found out about both the original tile and this new one from your videos! I'm a huge fan of your stuff :)
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Год назад
Except that it's always been acceptable to have some tiles be reflections of other tiles. This is a convention of tiling; it wasn't invented specifically for the subgenre of aperiodic monotiles. As Smith et al put it in their 30 May paper, the non-squiggly shape, the polygon, "admits only non-periodic tilings if we forbid reflections by fiat".
@proloycodes
@proloycodes Год назад
what does the non-squiggly version look like?
@viliml2763
@viliml2763 Год назад
@@proloycodes 3:00
@iveharzing
@iveharzing Год назад
@@rosiefay7283 It's just a different mathematical question. Can we find a strictly aperiodic monotile? and Can we find a strictly aperiodic *and* chiral monotile? (no reflections) And it's awesome that we now have an answer to both!!
@carlkuss
@carlkuss 7 дней назад
You are right. In other words if you belong the school of "Those hats and turtles (made of kites) do not count because their aperiodic tilings include reflections" the spectre responds to you by saying "Yes, but you can then exclude my tiling using reflections and I then give you a monotile that only tiles aperiodically!" Your objection melts away. The best thing you can say thus is that the spectrum of hats and turtles gives a complete answer to the question about connected monotiles that tile (only) aperiodically: the spectrum whose limits are chevron and comet.
@ChristianPerfect
@ChristianPerfect Год назад
I am a huge fan of the cardboard dial thing at 3:16
@backwashjoe7864
@backwashjoe7864 Год назад
I need to see more of my life mapped to the cardboard dial thing!
@nyuh
@nyuh Год назад
ohhh my gosh i cant believe you actually interviewed craig kaplan for this the paper is awesome and this is just an absolutely wonderful video covering it ps: love how they keep naming the shapes after existing words. which gives rise to sentences like "Every tiling by Spectres is closely related to a tiling with a sparse distribution of hats lying within a dense field of turtles, and one with a sparse distribution of turtles lying within a dense field of hats." lmao
@JellyMonster1
@JellyMonster1 Год назад
Nicely described and presented but I don't think some of the details are correct. It was my idea to use only rotations of the T(1,1) which I later called the Spectre, as I noticed it had more freedom after playing with Yoshi's aperiodic tile app. He was using both reflected and unreflected tiles and making a game out of it (he very slightly altered side lengths, so that T (1,1) would behave in the same way as hats and turtles). After that, Joseph Myers found out that combining hats with turtles and turtles with hats, one could simulate a Spectre tiling. Also, I just look for polygons that tile in interesting ways but I'm no mathematician and had very little to do with the final draft. All the best, Dave S.
@815TypeSirius
@815TypeSirius Год назад
Aperoiodic monotiles are the foundation of material science and nano engineering... you should copyright these.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
Is the 80's clothes pattern design Spectre?
@JellyMonster1
@JellyMonster1 Год назад
@@815TypeSirius I thought about it (my children have said exactly the same thing) but it would have complicated everything. And remember that it was actually Craig, Chaim and Joseph that came up with the proofs, weeks, months later. I have used a lot of freeware programs on my computer over the years, so think it's now time to give something back.
@Simulera
@Simulera 11 месяцев назад
@@JellyMonster1 Dave, I hope non-scientist, non-academic, people reading what you wrote here can appreciate how important what you have said is on at least two fronts: first, you describe the intense process of effective (as opposed to rudderless) curiosity search in a very clear way. Secondly, your non-humblebragging and deep understanding of idea ownership and teams gives me hope for people more generally. You have done something very special here, really. I speak for humans when I say thanks for that 😊 and I speak for myself when I say congratulations.
@JellyMonster1
@JellyMonster1 11 месяцев назад
@@Simulera Thank you. As Popeye's grandpa once said, "I am what I am", or something like that.
@Hyo9000
@Hyo9000 Год назад
OMG YAAAAS IT HAPPENED 💖💖💖💖
@forbiddenmod
@forbiddenmod Год назад
My exact reaction
@user-pr6ed3ri2k
@user-pr6ed3ri2k Год назад
can't believe you can find this comment in places that are not simply cancerous tumors on society
@Bocqurant
@Bocqurant Год назад
@@user-pr6ed3ri2k?
@CATel_
@CATel_ Год назад
​@oyoshimi3891 they mean that the typical girls who say "yasss" are extremely toxic
@user-pr6ed3ri2k
@user-pr6ed3ri2k Год назад
^ can confirm that this is what I meant
@19TheChaosWarrior79
@19TheChaosWarrior79 Год назад
Is this a new tattoo idea? 😁
@Ayliean
@Ayliean Год назад
Let me tell you, I am so glad my tattoo artist has a 3 month waiting list!
@19TheChaosWarrior79
@19TheChaosWarrior79 Год назад
@@Ayliean are you fighting for a spot against Tom Rocks Maths 😁
@Qermaq
@Qermaq Год назад
Might be the least sketchy thing to come out of the back of a van.
@maxdudek4911
@maxdudek4911 Год назад
Came from Numberphile and this video finally helped me understand the hat/turtle spectrum! Plus the “dial” visualizations to explain the new proof are super cool
@asmithgames5926
@asmithgames5926 Год назад
Growing up loving Math since I was 4, ma Dad got me an M. C. Escher book for my 9th birthday. I have been a fan of tessellations my entire life. The fact that they could be aperiodic is mind-boggling! And you are adorable, btw.
@eoinmcnultygoodwin
@eoinmcnultygoodwin Год назад
you are a absolute delight Ayliean. I'm so glad a stumbled across hearing this news delivered with your enthusiasm. Keep up the great work
@idontbelonghereanymore6834
@idontbelonghereanymore6834 Год назад
Thank you for explaining this in a way even I could understand, and for the new fixation on shapes 0.0
@sithdestroya
@sithdestroya Год назад
I'll be honest; going into this I did not know what to expect as I am not in the niche group of people who is following this. However: I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR AN A-PERIODIC , NON-REFLECTING TILE!!! Thank you for introducing me to the fandom! Can't wait to see more content! Have a great day
@macronencer
@macronencer Год назад
Looking at the morphing between tile shapes and seeing how beautifully simple it appears to be, it's hard not to be a bit incredulous that this took so long to find. I suppose that's the wonder of finding answers: it's very hard work but looks easy in hindsight!
@backwashjoe7864
@backwashjoe7864 Год назад
So, the invention of the time machine will be like this to the meta level. ;)
@macronencer
@macronencer Год назад
@@backwashjoe7864 "What do we want?" "TIME TRAVEL!" "When do we want it?" "IT'S IRRELEVANT!"
@backwashjoe7864
@backwashjoe7864 Год назад
@@macronencer 😂😂😂
@dave20874
@dave20874 Год назад
"We are having a moment" indeed! Love the shades.
@1stClassMaths
@1stClassMaths Год назад
Deserves so many more views. Great video, keep up the good work.
@NonTwinBrothers
@NonTwinBrothers Год назад
One of my fav growing math channels currently :)
@rincemind8369
@rincemind8369 Год назад
This mathematical discovery is truly gold. Great video.
@grehuy
@grehuy 7 месяцев назад
You are a genius teacher for such beautiful things. Please make many videos for us, explaining!
@alexortiz9777
@alexortiz9777 Год назад
Infinitely many??? I'm so happy!!! ❤🎉
@iseriver3982
@iseriver3982 Год назад
Reflective is a fancy way of saying 'this is two different shapes but we cant get maths clout if we admit it'.
@adiaphoros6842
@adiaphoros6842 Год назад
So is non-connectivity, looking at you Socolar-Taylor tile.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane Год назад
Just because they didn't call it a vampire tile doesn't mean you can't. Sure, that one tile is the "spectre," but the set of all tiles that can only aperiodically tile the plane could be called "vampire tiles."
@_rlb
@_rlb Год назад
Please never change! Or maybe do, by getting more tattoos. They are awesome.
@johnferrara2207
@johnferrara2207 Год назад
Your energy is so, so good. The sheer love for the topic is just beyond. Completely great.
@Oridan1
@Oridan1 Год назад
love your passion for maths, keep up the amazing work!
@elarielo
@elarielo Год назад
I really don't know how I ended up here but I'm glad I did
@arnoldmuller1703
@arnoldmuller1703 4 месяца назад
I like how we suddenly all agree that before we thought it's not a "true",...
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman Год назад
This interesting story suggests that humans in colaboration groups might turn out to be as powerful as superintelligent AIs. And since so many people are worried about out-of-control AIs, that concept might be important for the future. There is also the possibility that a combination of AI thinking and human thinking will turn out to be more powerful than either one on its own. The latter possibility leads me back to the idea that the best defense against runaway AI would be to have a wide range of communities in which humans and AIs work very closely together. And since it's increasingly clear that there is not going to be an AI halt or moratoriium any time soon, my conclusion is that we immediately need to start building many diverse groups of humans and AIs cooperating to find solutions to many of the world's problems -- including the potential problem of AIs running out of control. As it happens, combining AIs and humans into thinking teams is very likely to be the best way to solve our most serious problems, such as global warming, loss of wild habitats, and depletion of fresh water resources. Creating diverse, multidisciplinary thinking teams has the great advantage that it does not sound like a hopeless task. No matter how scarily smart AIs eventually get, there will always be an advantage in combining cooperative (or "loyal" AIs) with humans.
@21centdregs
@21centdregs Год назад
AI is not going to solve the ongoing ecological disaster. billions of humans' habits would have to change drastically for any of those issues to be solved, which is not going to happen. AI is just another tool that capitalism's devotees will use to exploit the biofilm living on this rock. with my piece said, i'll fight with you against the ai overlords if we're both alive in the fantasy post-apocalypse :)
@jamesgyre
@jamesgyre Год назад
thank you for this. i saw you in the video with craig, and i appreciate you communicating the significance of this to a wider audience. I agree we're in a golden age for math art collaboration. i used to run naked geometry on facebook and elsewhere, and i'm more offline now, but it was wild just watching the interest in the subject from when i started to when i left was spirit-lifting. meet you at bridges some time!
@nicksamek12
@nicksamek12 Год назад
Very well made video!! Loved it.
@KitagumaIgen
@KitagumaIgen Год назад
So impressive that it only took "us" 10 weeks to find this next step!
@Bibibosh
@Bibibosh Год назад
I didn't know this channel even existed.... INSTANTLY SUBSCRIBED!!!!!!
@ilikemitchhedberg
@ilikemitchhedberg Год назад
thank you for teaching me. it was a lovely presentation and went in depth enough for me. I'll have to re-watch the 'spectrum between 2 shapes, at mid is the one true vampire that was Promised' section and give it my full attention
@Bocqurant
@Bocqurant Год назад
I’ve never heard of this before but I am psyched about this new aperiodic monotile 🔥🔥
@harry.tallbelt6707
@harry.tallbelt6707 Год назад
:O they found it so fast, wow The video is stunning, btw, I love your style so much!
@KafshakTashtak
@KafshakTashtak Год назад
You explained very well how they got to spectre. Thanks.
@DWPenguin
@DWPenguin Год назад
Amazing news! Aperiodic non-reflecting polygon next?
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Год назад
Already here. Instead of turning each straight edge into a curve, turn it into two edges by adding a triangular bump to, or making a triangular concavity in, the original polygon. What you get is still a polygon.
@d23bw
@d23bw Год назад
Thank you Ayliean for showing us the beautiful a/symmetry of these mathematical tile shapes. I never knew, and still don't. But myi nterest is peaked. Ta again and all the best.
@paulhopkins8148
@paulhopkins8148 Год назад
did you mean "piqued" ?
@michaelorlev9925
@michaelorlev9925 Год назад
description box here, looking forward to those links (especially playing with the shapes on the computer, I'm looking to incorporate the tile in a background shader to see what interesting organic animations can come out..) Great video and explanations! Thanks!
@KatieDawson3636
@KatieDawson3636 Год назад
It looks so much more like a shirt than a hat.
@kitastro
@kitastro Год назад
I like your energy
@Barnaclebeard
@Barnaclebeard Год назад
We have a blooming parasocial relationship. I'm thinking of introducing you to my friends.
@DavidSavinainen
@DavidSavinainen Год назад
Is there a 3D analogy of this, like a mono-block that tesselates 3D space aperiodically?
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Год назад
Yes, sort of. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrobifastigium#Schmitt%E2%80%93Conway%E2%80%93Danzer_biprism
@AntonAdelson
@AntonAdelson Год назад
​@@rosiefay7283Conway strikes again!
@boscorner
@boscorner Год назад
This shows we still have so much to learn
@francis5617
@francis5617 Год назад
Your channel deserves more subscriptions.
@jwg72
@jwg72 Год назад
I like the placeholder comment in the description box.
@jeroenrl1438
@jeroenrl1438 Год назад
So, that will be your next tattoo?
@seanharbinger
@seanharbinger Год назад
Very cool and an excellent presentation!
@lmmffn
@lmmffn Год назад
have no idea how did i get here, but SFOK YES I NEEDED IT 😢❤🎉
@fplancke3336
@fplancke3336 Год назад
I didn't know it had been found! Thanks for sharing!
@ChurchOfThought
@ChurchOfThought Год назад
Heck yeah. Maths! 🎉
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv Год назад
When will the David Smith paper get peer reviewed? I’m so glad that he, as just a hobbyist, got top billing since he discovered the shape and the other mathematicians just proved it for him.
@migsy1
@migsy1 Год назад
Awesome!!!
@willemvandebeek
@willemvandebeek Год назад
Hope you get unshattered of your tiredness soon! - Dooblydoo box checker. :)
@htspencer9084
@htspencer9084 Год назад
I wish I was unique enough to be an aperiodic monotile.
@lokanoda
@lokanoda 9 месяцев назад
You could only couple with yourself if that were the case though 😀
@htspencer9084
@htspencer9084 9 месяцев назад
@@lokanoda so no change then? Get pwned me!
@alysononoahu8702
@alysononoahu8702 6 месяцев назад
You are, we all are, except...twins,trips,etc
@gustavgadehebsgaard5727
@gustavgadehebsgaard5727 Год назад
Phantastic job!
@Skopji
@Skopji Год назад
The spectre tile looks like the pokemon Misdreavus
@berunkasuteru
@berunkasuteru 11 месяцев назад
i love your videos ☺☺☺
@mathewspieker
@mathewspieker Год назад
The reflection and the 180 degree "angle" make me more upset than I should be.
@lakromani8172
@lakromani8172 Год назад
Thanks for the video. Where can I get the program to make the tiles ast 1:57 ?
@IllumTheMessage
@IllumTheMessage Год назад
^ This
@Archanfel
@Archanfel Год назад
3:45 it so beautiful
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Год назад
Spectre? Looks more like a BEAGLE
@mdb1239
@mdb1239 Год назад
David Smith is the hero.
@JuhoHartikainen
@JuhoHartikainen Год назад
Cooooool 🤩 So what's next? 3-dimensional aperiodic tiling shapes? What would they be called?
@benwisey
@benwisey Год назад
The roof tiling at 00:12 has overlaps. It’s not on a single two dimensional plane.
@thunderheadcinema6743
@thunderheadcinema6743 Год назад
I clicked on this with no idea what an aperiodic monotile was
@PatrickAndrewsMacphee
@PatrickAndrewsMacphee Год назад
Thanks for the explanation of what 'aperiodic' means. My understanding is 'no translational symmetry'. I'd now like to hear a 'simple as possible but no simpler' explanation of the proof.
@sidneyn1366
@sidneyn1366 Год назад
So cool!
@Grunchy005
@Grunchy005 Год назад
Nice story 😄
@acex222
@acex222 Год назад
Did you 3D print those tiles?
@HexanaMusic
@HexanaMusic Год назад
OMG!!! This is huge!!!
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv Год назад
I say chirality doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s the same shape.
@ski3r3n
@ski3r3n 9 месяцев назад
alan walker will roll on the floor again
@nathangonzales2661
@nathangonzales2661 Год назад
At 2.57 in this video, the chaotic attractor fractal found the same monotile.. 4 years ago. I think some larger implications may be drawn from here. Can the fractal fill 4d space? A formal proof seems possible. Also, seems related to the Navier-Stokes problem.
@nathangonzales2661
@nathangonzales2661 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fDSIRXmnVvk.html
@jonathanpickles2946
@jonathanpickles2946 Год назад
Finally! How have we managed with out one for so long?
@chrislambe400
@chrislambe400 Год назад
She is just simply lovely. Was she not on numberphile with her mum?
@Ayliean
@Ayliean Год назад
Yeah, that was me on Mumberphile talkin trefoil knot hugs 🥰
@bugoobiga
@bugoobiga Год назад
you are living in the perfect time for you
@MandyFlame
@MandyFlame Год назад
Looks like a pig with wings. So the condition “when pigs can fly” has finally been met!
@theninjascientist689
@theninjascientist689 Год назад
It looks like a winged pig!
@martineldritch
@martineldritch Год назад
Yes, that's what I saw too ! Like they'll discover an aperiodic monotile when pigs fly, and there it is !
@QRebound
@QRebound Год назад
Ah, but now is there one with fewer edges? :)
@cherryscarlett
@cherryscarlett Год назад
2:14 _..de SimpLes₺ mono₺ile, _*_WiNs!_* _(CİA:..HEADBANGİNG İN₺ENSİFİES!!)_
@billyf3346
@billyf3346 Год назад
has anyone ever looked into non periodic space filling stacked block quasi crystal structures? seems like that would be the next thing to be looking for, if 3d space even works that way. etcetera. ... ... :|
@FadkinsDiet
@FadkinsDiet Год назад
3:22 last syllable of both names is "ki" pronounced "key", not rhyming with "sky"
@Phymacss
@Phymacss Год назад
Do you remember me? I’m Shaimaa, from parallel! Also, interesting video!
@cherryscarlett
@cherryscarlett Год назад
_Puzzle!!_ ✓
@markkeown9532
@markkeown9532 Год назад
Where can I find a CAD file for the true monotile dxf or step or stl ?
@eriklaroi8
@eriklaroi8 Год назад
Math people are artists
@gbkEmilgbk
@gbkEmilgbk Год назад
Next question: is there "true" aperiodic monotile without curved edges?
@Ceruleanst
@Ceruleanst Год назад
The curves are an arbitrary choice to force the edges to be "one-way" and can just as easily be replaced by any asymmetrical shape, such as a square prong/divot or a lightning bolt of any three unequal segments.
@lrvogt1257
@lrvogt1257 Год назад
With this a-periodic, non-reflecting tile... how many colors are required so that no two of the same touch?
@MrBeen992
@MrBeen992 Год назад
So if I understood well there is not a true (doesnt need reflection) aperiodic polygon mono tile, right ?
@JS-yj7ow
@JS-yj7ow Год назад
I still say it’s not a hat, but a t-shirt
@sonnenklang6925
@sonnenklang6925 Год назад
where can i find a true aperiodic 3d cristal or sponge model for 3dprint, is there a aperiodic tetris game? :)
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck Год назад
0:30 Can someone please tell me what the (relative) dimensions of that shape are? I'm preparing a workshop for kids (aged about 12-14) about this subject and would love to print that shape out for them to cut out and form a big shape with it.
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck Год назад
Or, is that a class of shapes and do the exact dimesions not matter?
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck Год назад
Looks like 3, 2, 1 would work.
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Год назад
- 2:26 Um, Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do. How are two lines 180° apart not a single line? 🤨 - 4:42 I don't know about people in the past, but people right now are well aware that we've just entered a significant turning-point in history with the advent of A.I.
@ezramiller2947
@ezramiller2947 Год назад
So ya know how some tilings are found in nature or Atom behaviors or whatever. What if scientists use this to FLIP atoms. Oppenheimer harnessed the power of atoms to build a bomb to end all bombs. What if flipping an atom is like perpetual motion machine for unlimited energy? Thanks for letting me cook in the comments.
@GALAX137X
@GALAX137X Год назад
does this exist in higher dimensions as well?
@oneMeVz
@oneMeVz Год назад
So is the tile with squiggly lines the Spectre, or is the the straight lines? I think one should be called the Vampire to differentiate
@clumsyjester459
@clumsyjester459 Год назад
Wait, so they considered the hat an aperiodic "mono"-tile despite it requiring reflections, but don't consider the spectre with straight edges an "aperiodic" tile, because you have to "arbitrarily" forbid reflections? What kind of logic is that? Somehow "forbidding reflections" feels way more natural to me.
@Ayliean
@Ayliean Год назад
The (1,1) Spectre polygon has the ability to tile periodically as well, so it doesn’t count as an aperiodic monotile. But with the lil curvy adjustments it can no longer tile periodically :)
@clumsyjester459
@clumsyjester459 Год назад
@@Ayliean As far as I understood the paper, as long as you don't allow mirroring it can't tile periodically. I don't get, why the paper calls this restriction "by fiat", as if any other mathematical restriction would ever be natural. You can count a tile and its reflection as a single piece (as the authors of this paper seem to do and seem to perceive as "natural") or you can count them as two distinct pieces. For me, this is an arbitrary definition. It doesn't even make sense to me, to call one of these "more natural". But if we really want to pick a side, I would call "disallowing reflections" more "natural" and "allowing reflections" more "mathematical".
@mistercorzi
@mistercorzi Год назад
@@Ayliean The authors call the Tile (1,1) a "weakly chiral aperiodic monotile" - 'weakly' because it still admits a periodic tiling if flips are allowed. It is still a chiral aperiodic monotile - 'chiral' in this context just means not mixing left-handed and right-handed copies i.e. no flips. What the curved edges do is eliminates the possibility of a periodic tiling even when flips are allowed. The authors call this a "strongly chiral aperiodic monotile". So Tile (1,1) is definitely an aperiodic monotile - specifically a chiral aperiodic monotile. Hope this clears up any confusion! Love the video by the way.
@davevaness4172
@davevaness4172 Год назад
Why did they call this shape a Spectre?
@DwAboutItManFr
@DwAboutItManFr Год назад
Next: True aperiodic tiles that isn't ugly as fuck.
@lokanoda
@lokanoda 9 месяцев назад
As soon as you use the English language in a way that isn't ugly as fuck.
@neuravanny
@neuravanny Год назад
Why was this reccomended to me?
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