Sorry guys, looks like the tail-end of this video was cut off. It was 98% finished anyway so we’ll keep it! Let me know your honest thoughts of this First Edition… do you think it’s worth $77K?
Unfortunately most of these new vehicles are not affordable to the blue collar working American. Hard pass on these new Tundra’s, Tacoma’s, Landcruisers, etc. The 2025 4Runners look great, but they are not going to be affordable either. Such a shame!
the 1958 is 60k so 17k more for what im not-sure, the tires are for emissions that's why they are not All terrain . It's worth 45K IMHO. Plus the engine is hauling to big a a car. its third row cup holders are becaude they literally plunked the GX body which does have a third row on it.
Sadly, the Tacoma has been such a complete disappointment that I’m kind of just soured on Toyota in general at the moment. I was excited for the Tacoma and the Land Cruiser, and I’m one of the very few customers that was eyeing them both.. now I’m likely eyeing neither of them just because I don’t think Toyota deserves my money right now. I’m not going to incentivize their behavior by buying one of their more premium products in the lineup. I think they need a wake up call, and if that means me sitting out this new generation Tacoma and Land Cruiser then so be it.
@@MarckySportsDenver I do. There’s ways of getting your emissions credits, I think they seen it as an opportunity to increase prices, and keep people in their service centers where only their mechanics can work on your vehicle. Parts/Service centers are a large component to selling new vehicles. Trump is going to be elected in 5 1/2 months, he’s going to cut regulations, toss out the green new scam, and then what? We have a bunch of unreliable 4 cylinders that nobody wanted. There’s all kinds of V8 trucks and SUV’s still being produced, how are they doing it but Toyota can’t even do a V-6? You’re telling me the government made Toyota cram a 4 cylinder in their entire lineup? Give me a break. Toyota is greedy. What does moving manufacturing of the Tacoma entirely to Mexico do? Allows them to produce the truck for pennies on the dollar. What does cramming the same exact 4 cylinder engine into every new vehicle in their lineup do? Allows them to produce a single engine instead of several different ones, while getting tax credits for hybrids, and increasing the MSRP by an obligatory 30%. Why do the Tahoe, Escalade, Yukon, F-150, all still have V-8’s? Aren’t they outlawed? We can go down to the V6 but those exist in literally every lineup of every manufacturer in the US, so we know those aren’t illegal. So why did Toyota have to pass that step and go beyond every other manufacturer? The truth is they didn’t have to, they weren’t forced, were not even talking about V8’s here were talking about V6’s.. you can’t tell me they couldn’t have put naturally aspirated V6’s, they chose not to.
. Yes ❕️ Toyota Love to jump on the USA, European mandate. Saves them money and an gives them an excuse to force on their customers only the V6 motor for the Tundra and only the V4 motor for the Tacomas. Nissan still makes the V6 for the Frontier.
I don't mind the 4 banger, but the small size, lack of tailgate, and no 3rd row make it useless for my family. Sticking w the LC200 for now. Would love the MPG of this vs the LC200 tho.
The 4cyl engines, especially the ones built in Japan, can be bulletproof, for 300-500k miles. But not with a turbo, or hybrid. We'll see. I doubt the longevity. But $80k? Absolutely NOT. I passed one of these the other day driving down the interstate. Was amazed how tiny it was. Tiny. No thanks.
@@itshadouken Dude that LC200 will outlive you. What do you mean stick with it for now lol. Its ain't going anywhere and will still be kicking when your 6 feet under. Facts. That beast will outlive human life. I don't have to tell you that.
@@brianskelton935There’s one close to mine for 82k. Just in case, it comes with a 15k safety antiviral package, we all know it’s just applied purel on the doors and seats. But it’s 8k cheaper, just saying
Built in Japan instills confidence. The 4 cyl/ turbo/hybrid instills concern of the long term reliability and post warranty service costs. If this vehicle had a 6cyl /turbo I'd be at 100% in on getting one but $80k for the current 4cyl engine setup is an easy NOPE. The hype for this suv will be short lived and will sit on lots until discounted big time. I mean since when do dealerships allow test drives of 1st edition, just arrived models. These were supposed to be pre-sold. Also Toyota is currently running a lease where you get $1500 towards a lease for this suv. The writing is on the wall already. Also, can people stop with the "its the guuberments fault" BS; how come Nissan, Honda and Kia all have 2024/2025 suv models with V6 engines in them. No turbos and no hybrid crap attached.
I can’t find one of these available anywhere tbh. Dunno where you’re seeing them being offered as leases with a discount but not in west coast for me. A few got ordered and not picked up but had people snatch those up immediately
It should be on Toyota website for the lease options. Also, someone posted a youtube video about the lease with website proof that its valid. Heres the link, disregard the video title. The LC lease info will be the first thing he goes over. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YlnmgsotaKc.htmlfeature=shared
Toyota has made a vehicle that last much longer than all their competitors. They also see how much money the other manufacturers make in mx cost over the life of a vehicle. They know very well the mx cost over the life of these new trash cans will be much higher than previous gens. If this thing came with small V8 I’d be interested in at least looking at it. Toyota simply does not care about the consumer anymore, at least an educated one. But most Americans are fairly inept and will buy what’s popular cause it has stupid tech crap that doesn’t mater.
That’s what i’m trying to figure out too. I’m a nissan fan, and i know that they built the VQ engine to be more efficient, which is great. I’m sure the other manufacturers did the same thing. That’s why i’m confused as to why ‘Yota didn’t do the same, instead of dropping the engines altogether for this hybrid garbage. Hell, GM is still keeping their V8s why, didn’t Toyota do the same?
Way too expensive for what it is. So many other choices out there. And all the fan boys will scream reliability when they change cars more than underwear. People need to get off the creature comforts and start wanting real off-road features and simplicity.
I think I would have to agree with your overall opinion on this new generation model! Your first “bleeped words “ say it all! It does look nice! Much of what you remarked about this new model I agree with you 110% on! I think you’re 100% right on waiting for up to 2 years before buying this new model so that Toyota can get every kink worked out! Well spoken Sir I tend to agree! I appreciate your honesty and quality videos! Mark in Iowa.
One large benefit of this particular powertrain is that it gives close to perfect 50/50 f/r weight distribution. This fact is rarely mentioned but really benefits the vehicle's driving dynamics.
The Alexa equivalent chiming in and telling you cannot use a feature without a subscription is everything wrong with these new vehicles. Makes me wanna buy used
@@manoloprprand this is why a monopoly of reliability is the worst thing to happen to the auto market. Other carmakers need to improve their reliability, otherwise I see myself buying used cars instead of new Toyotas. New Mazdas look kinda nice to me though…
I dont get why people are crying about a 4cyl Prado. The 150 prado has always had a 2TR 4 cylinder option from 2003-2024 and a 3rz 4cyl option from 1995-2002.
$80k for a 4 cyl is a problem. Longevity is also a problem. Load is a problem. After warranty service is a problem. This truck is a service departments wet dream when warranty runs out. Don't misdirect our complaints.
@@Yul-Uhlu it's an $80,000 First edition. Just like anything first edition, you pay to claim the "collectible." The 1958 starts at $55,000. The #1 Selling PEV in the USA is a 4 cylinder Jeep Wrangler that costs an absurd an amount of money for a vehicle with no insulation. You pay an ass ton of money for a new Mercedes C43 AMG 4 cylinder turbo. $80,000 is the new $40,000. Get over it.
The price is an issue, it should start at 10k less as should the Tacoma. Toyota could have sold it for 10k less and then setup the customers to pay 15k extra later on when they release a V6 version.
@@CACressida 1st edition ? What on Earth does that mean ? We are not collecting stamps here. 1st edition anything in the automotive world is to be generally avoided until the manufacturer irons out the bugs. And $80K is the new $40K ? Rly ? You are completely misreading ppl's comments. They are not gripes nor are they complaints. All loyal Toyota customers (not fanbois) simply express disappointment for the new direction. There is nothing to get over, here. I am the buyer, I got the money in my pocket and its Toyota that has to get over it with the new Tundras spinning main bearings, rows of Tacomas sitting unsold and for when we see the effect the turbos have on reliability and longevity. I bet even money that 50 years from now, NOBODY will be saying "consider the 2024 cruiser" like we now still say about the 1958 edition.
@@healer81 you know, the same exact thing was said about the 200 series. People were saying "why should we pay $80,000 for. ToYoTa¿? It should be $50,000!" Luckily the 6th gen 4Runner is the same exact truck underneath the body for less money so you can always buy that.
Why is everyone complaining about the price being too high. The last generation (200 Series) was $85K. With the Heritage Edition costing close to $100K. Now, after a 4 year break, the Land Cruiser is back in North America, and you can get into one for $58K. Sounds fucking awesome if you ask me.
So glad you got your hands on the new LC and made this video. I bought a new 5th gen 4Runner Trail in 2011, and over the course of my years of routine service visits I obsessed over the Land Cruisers occasionally displayed in the dealer showroom. In November 2020 I finally bought a 2018 CPO 200 series, and now after 3 1/2 years and 55,000 miles in the driver's seat I still feel the same awe as I did with the first door close and turn of the steering wheel. The new "250" doesn't even begin to stir any amount of desire. It even falls way short (to me) of the value offered by the prior 150 version we can get in a GX460, which a 2021 CPO just joined the 2018 200 in my garage at about half the price of that 250. Keep up the honest and balanced reviews. I'm always excited when I see you post new content.
I told my friend about Toyota's latest moves, and I was like, "Seriously? Who in their right mind wants a four-cylinder engine in an SUV, especially one that kicks off at $70,000? And don't get me started on the battery-operated SUV nonsense. It's like they're trying to destroy their own image! Plus, it barely even improves MPG. I'd bet my last dollar these models are gonna flop hard. Nobody's gonna touch this junk. Can you imagine trying to fix that stupid battery-operated mess? They should be focused on what's best for their customers, not this. And let's face it, they don't get us Americans. We want rugged, manly SUVs, not these European or Japanese little car wannabes."
Ya except they’re sold out everywhere at the moment. Maybe after the newness rubs off future year models will flop but so far there’s enough people who want it. I’m starting to think that those of us caught up in the old days of pricing are simply the delusional ones
@Lmatdhr now show the actual first quarter sales on them.... they're not selling out. That's just Toyota knowing that most people are suckers and will make an impulse decision to get one from other dealers giving the illusion that they're in demand. There's 2 rows (including the iforceMax) at just 1 of the 2 dealers within a half hour drive from me. They're not even difficult to find just about any trim with options
This is the best move for Toyota, no one wants those old thirsty large engines. Also that new V6 in the Tundra is unreliable. 2.4 is the best option imo until they fix the V6. Also they need to comply with the regulations so part of the blame is with policymakers
Bro i was with you, but honestly Americans don’t want manly tough off-roaders. if that was the case the Xterra would’ve still been around. sadly this market loves mall crawlers…or if they buy the rugged SUVs, they are pavement princesses, to the point the 4x4 is almost never used
@@JokerG16 they don’t want that kind of reliability they just want “will never break down and will require almost no maintenance and will take me skiing or hiking or camping if I so choose”. Which is ideal for that. The engine in this car is probably the best engine mechanically for reliability Toyota has ever made, along side the v8 in the Land Cruiser.
Sat in this at my local dealer, was even the same color. I liked it but didn’t love it. I wasn’t overly impressed but it was kinda what I expected. The dealer sold it the next morning for 84k, with their little add ons and mark-up. At that point it would be a hard no for me.
I am not a fan of a large SUV as I prefer a midsize one and I am definitely not a fan of any gm junk but I would totally consider a Yukon anyday over this chintzy, tinny pile of plastic 4 banger.
Toyota has my truck in the shop, so they gave me a brand new rav4 hybrid for 2 weeks. I almost want one at some point.😅 2 weeks of driving daily for work and it’s just now touching the gas tank and getting around 40 mpg in eco mode. I live on a farm and did a little light off roading it in and it did pretty good.
This looks like what I imagine a Nissan Xterra would look like in 2025. If Nissan were smart they would see the millions of disenfranchised Toyota fans, and they would put bunch of money behind the Frontier and battle the Land Cruiser with a new Xterra. The new Frontiers look nice so they have it in them to make a cool Xterra, I think they could steal back a large portion of Toyota’s market share in the midsize truck/SUV segment. The Xterra might have been one of the most sold SUV’s of our lifetime, it has a cult following, I think it would be a slam dunk right now. An all new Frontier and Xterra, taking the lessons learned by Toyota, keeping what we like and getting rid of what we don’t. No 4 cylinders. The top trims both being 20 grand cheaper than the Toyota counterparts.. let the reviewers get their hands on the products and do side by sides, and show what your getting for the extra 20 grand if you’re getting anything at all. Build a product that you believe in and I think you’re going to beat Toyota right now and take a large portion of their large fanbase that have become dissatisfied by this latest generation. If I was Nissan brass I would be drooling at the prospect of answering this call.
Maybe even a V8 Titan? Who knows.. it’s a blinking light to me. Trump is about to be elected, regulations are going to get slashed, going all in on 4 cylinders right now is really fucking dumb and short sighted in my opinion. We don’t want them.
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 the market is screaming for an Xterra right now.. I think they could make an affordable alternative with just as many features and it won’t have a 4 cylinder… they would kill it. The Xterra was insanely popular, has an insane amount of name value. It makes all the sense in the world to me, but car manufacturers show time and time again they have no idea what’s going on. Look at dodge, look at Toyota, Ford, just dumb decisions after dumb decisions. You want to steal a majority of the 4Runner/LandCruiser sales? Release an awesome new generation Xterra, with all the features, no 4 cylinders, and a 30% discount when compared to Toyotas.
Toyota has always coasted off charging more cause their resale value / rep for reliability. They never really beat competing cars on more features just more longevity. That’s harder to compare side to side
When you talk about the comparison with the 200 series, you have to keep in mind that in terms of I guess plastics, America always got the most high end, most luxurious trim of the Land Cruiser 200 Series, not to mention in todays market it’s roughly anywhere $5K-$20K more expensive than the First Edition Land Cruiser. The better comparison would be against a 150 Series Prado, obviously which American never got.
I’m just not understanding what’s going on here. The LC was twice as expensive as a Tacoma and 4R. Now they all share the same platform, just pick your body style and it’s $70K for any of em
“Let’s go places unreliable” You’re the voice of the real consumers, $77k tho hard pass… I wonder when the 5th 4 RNRS will spike up in price. #TEAM UT!!
Their new title is "technician", and for sure, enhanced skills will be needed. However, the onboard\ and connected computers will hopefully and accurately diagnose the failing component, lest the technician falls into the category of a "swap until you drop" tech. A retired computer mainframe "engineer" (technician) I saw it go from requiring extensive skills and knowledge, to replacing the part called out by the onboard and remote diagnostics.
as a Toyota Customer since 1982, FJ40 always owned Toyota land cruiser but I skipped the LC300 and just kept my LC200 2019 V8 new ones don’t float by boat anymore they do look good but over all its down hill sadly
Electric motors work completely under water with no air. Internal combustion engines don't. Electric pond pumps, electric boat motors, pool pumps, well pumps, agriculture pumps, and millions of other electric pumps under water, exposed to water or pumping water every day.
Little surprised you didn’t mention the GX550 as an option I wouldn’t pay that price for any 4 cylinder idc what the name plate is .. can’t wait til my gx550 overtrail+ comes in Good review
Let’s put it this way - I’m pretty glad I have a 5th gen 4Runner with only 80,000 miles - will be keeping it a very long while from the looks of things
Toyota Land Cruiser has always had a premium price in all the other models so this having it isn't a surprise! It's always been Toyota top truck so the price people are saying it's too expensive then they must not know Land Cruiser history.
I purchased a 4Runner-TRD-Pro in 2016 for $42,000, 4.0 V-6, is Toyota seriously wanting $35,000 more for a 4- cylinder? Will die with my 2016-4Runner!!! It only has 17,000 miles anyway!!! And its Magnuson Supercharged 😂
I just can't come to grips with the fact they are putting a small displacement turbo charged engines on a Truck/SUV. I'm kinda in the same boat as Chris Davis with this one. I was interested at the biggining, and now that I found out the power plant, the newness has lost its luster. I'm just gonna pass on Toyota for now. Also the prices are just ridiculous.
"Wait a couple of years ... let them work out their issues" Thank you!!! So true. They are trying to make you think that a First Edition is a great thing. It is a BAD thing. You should always wait a few years until the quality issues have been fixed. In my view there are too many issues with this one currently. The battery pack makes the loading space much too high. There is no back seat hatch in the middle to put your skis or tall items through (don't want to fold for this because need the two larger back seats left and right) and clicking those buttons up and down to adjust temperature is going to be a hassle. Like you also not a big fan of piano black (so unpractical) and I am also very concerned about the complexity of this engine.
I fully agree with you, wait two years to see how reliable these “Rube Goldberg Machines” perform. I was very blessed to buy a 2020 Land Cruiser New Year’s Eve day, 2019. Paid $81020.13, tax & vehicle fees included - negotiated with two dealers to get this price - no such deals now since Covid. The interior of the 2024 First Edition L. C., looks low budget - no wood - no fan of digital instrumentation, pricing is way out of touch too. Great video! Thanks.
My goodness. What technology did you use to read my EVERY THOUGHT regarding the new Land Cruiser?! From every exterior detail to the interior and the ridiculous transition from simple, ultra reliable V8 BEAST in the 200-Series to an overly complex 4-banger (albeit impressive, numbers-wise), you nailed it. Maybe all of us LC-enthusiasts feel like this. Toyota slaps us LC guys across the face by giving the Lexus GX a V6 twin turbo while we get the 4-cylinder. Why not, at the very least, have a LC V6 model? I've owned 4 LC's including my current 200-Series and would LOVE a new LC as I've owned my 2014 for 10vyrs now, and I'm getting the itch but this won't scratch it. Like you, MAYBE in a couple years after real-world data comes in, and kinks are worked out (and maybe they offer in a V6!!). Very disappointed they've done this to us. If they wanted to sell more 200's they should have started with true Base models and upgrade packages vs all being loaded. Finally, WTH is the deal with the choice of tires? The LC is supposed to be fully capable off road even if the overwhelming majority of driving is done on pavement. Try getting out of thick mud with those street tires. All the 4WD power is useless when all 4 tires are simply spinning. LOVED YOUR REVIEW (probably because it was also mine, without actually driving one yet!).
I think they hit a hone run, I think the size makes more sense, the newer Land cruisers i thought were to big in my opinion, quality yes but big, i think they will sell a ton of them, sounds like all the MSRP FE are sold, seems like a ton of markups still though if you read the forums, the fe def seems overpriced compared the other models, so far everyone seems to like to drive it, vs the tundra and tacoma, lots of diff opinions on them, good video by the way, unfortunately were not back in time, if you get any new vehicles they seem to have all the tech in them, so probably have to get used to it, def be curious how these do long term as far as reliability
The 300-series is what they should've gave retro styling and brought over here. People who buy Land Cruisers "know" what Land Cruisers are. This is not the real Land Cruiser. We want a base model 300-series for $65k, not a base model "Prado" for $55k
@@onenessacts238 The 300-series has heavier duty components. Nearly everything about the drivetrain is beefier and higher spec, even down to the radiator/hoses
@@onenessacts238I believe 50 more HP. That’s what the LX600 has I think they don’t because the lx600 isn’t the best seller. I mean yeah we’re in that territory already yet who knows why I do find it funny people will want the 300 with the v6 hot turboed engine
I have a long history with Land Cruisers, bumping around in my dad’s FJ40 as a kid, getting into what we call overlanding now in the early ‘90’s and running an FJ60, then an 80 series I built and used for 20 years, another 60 series, an FJ Cruiser, a hundred series, have spent time with a built 200 series…. Plus other Toyota products and other brands off-roading over the years and doing epic trips on other continents, even getting to present at the original overland ExPo’s and I always feel like the minority when I am skeptical of overly complex new vehicles. I pretty much share all of your views on these new turbo, gas, hybrid Toyotas on this platform. The Toyota bro’s try to calm me out when I bring them up in the inner webs but the concerns are legitimate and let’s be honest, a lot of those opinionated fan boys always want the latest and greatest Toyota and never own them long term. Having owned several Land Cruisers to higher mileage I can’t fathom the upkeep, fiend repairs, and long term ownership costs of any of these new TNGF platform products past 10-15 years. Thats not taking into account what happens or fails potentially prior to that. I was skeptical and the issues with the 3.4 in the Tundra/Sequoia, and Lexus products doesn’t disprove my concerns. We were looking to get a new vehicle last fall for my wife. It was going to serve as my wife’s daily, a replacement for a Land Cruiser for family adventures off the beaten path and something we would own and use hard for 10-20 years. There really wasn’t any other options that fit the bill other than the 5th gen. I had a first gen 4Runner back in the mid ‘90’s and frankly felt it was a bit of a rattle trap, durable enough but cheap feeling. Never had been a big 4 runner guy but tried the 5th gen and fell in love. So we picked up a new 5th gen nicely discounted in the exact spec we wanted and have zero regrets. Everything is relative so seeing 20-22 on the highway even on AT’s is great to me given what built old school Cruisers got. The new Cruiser was released last year and considered that as an option but as more details came out we figured if we are going to get a Prado, just get the proven one that is fully refined and sorted. That being said, given what we know with the new GX, Land Cruiser, and 4Runner…. In 5-10 years if the drivetrains hold up, I think I might consider one. The 1958 in UN white and base duece looks great to me. The new 4Runner is somehow bigger and more cramped j side than the Cruiser and just looks too gimmicky. The Lexus has no appeal to me. But I also think my favorite 4wd of all times is an FJ60 so I guess take that with a grain of salt I lean towards more simple, mechanical if not agricultural vehicles. So for me the 5th gen 4Runner is so refined feeling, comfortable and just very well built feeling. Not to mention the non TRD Pro versions have an incredible ride quality if you live in the sticks and drive off-road slot like we do. I also think the horsepower race in these kind of vehicles is silly. It’s a lumbering 4wd, how much acceleration does one need? A 5th gen at sea level does 0-60 in the 7 second range, that is plenty to pass and hold grades. Lastly, I totally agree on all the nanny safety tech. The blind spot monitoring and lane keep stuff is too intrusive and another level of complexity and cost. I know how to use my mirrors and drive between the lines, no thanks. I spent a couple of weeks driving a new Sprinter based Story Teller Overland rig this past winter and the way that thing freaked out, hit the brakes and tried the steer when I was trying to avoid wildlife on the road or just the snow covering the lines in the road made it freak out was completely and wholly unacceptable. And to defeat it disables your use of cruise control. So yeah, not a fan of that stuff in general either. Thanks for the review and opinions on the new Cruiser. It’s refreshing to get people who can see past the excitement of a new product and cover the real things that matter.
Wow thanks for taking the time to share this man. I really appreciate it. Toyota has become to out of touch of what their life-long fans have grown to expect and appreciate from them. 60 series are 👌 💯
Great honest review. I get what you say about the 200, but this can't be compared to that Land Cruiser in any way (unless we're just looking at how close the price is to the last couple of year of the 200). This is a Prado, pure and simple. Very few people outside of North America do or ever will refer to a Prado as a Land Cruiser, because it just isn't. In many ways it's like it's like saying the Bronco Sport is a Bronco. I've been a life-long owner of Land Cruisers all over the world, and have owned other Toyotas, Mazdas, Nissan/Datsun, Mitsubishi, etc. (most in 4WD models). Made-in-Japan is not always what it's cracked up to be, but it certainly means that you're getting better/much better than average dedication and competence from the assembly line workers. The 200 series (and the current 70 series) are probably the last true-to-heritage Toyota Land Cruisers ever to be built. Unfortunately, where I currently live, the 200 series was not an option, so I purchased a 2023 4Runner TRD OR (only available as a Premium in Canada) that I will be keeping forever.
I’m in Belize and yes the back seat is set up for a third row. We get any variants we want down here. Even the turbo diesel. They don’t do allocation here since the market for those who can afford it is small I guess.
@@J.Young808 yea. On the bright side you guys don’t have to deal with all that cost either. Here we also get the 300 series Land Cruiser and the cost after import duty and taxes are nearly 200k USD. The dealer here takes advantage of you since they are the only one in the country lol. That and import duty you have to pay the government kills you. That’s the only down side tho. We can have any engine we want to order it in. Whether that be a diesel or gasoline version. We can even order the new LX600 in a diesel aka LX500d.
Many Americans go and live in Belize for their retirement. The American money goes further down there. Another plus is that it is the only nationality English-speaking country south of the border. I wonder if Toyota products are less expensive in Belize ?❔️
@@icosthop9998ahh damn you beat me to it. I was gonna say when I turn 70 I’m gonna get myself a Tommy bahama shirt and red shorts and move to Belize and buy a Toyota 😂
@@icosthop9998 nah they aren’t less. In fact they are way more if you want one brand new the from the factory in Japan 😂😂. For a fully loaded Land Cruiser 250 known as the Prado here it’ll run you about $120k USD after dealership markups and import duty 🤦♂️. Don’t even get me started on the LX600/500d or the LC 300 series. It’ll set you back $190k USD at least after all the fees and taxes. The only good part is that when it’s time to find parts no matter if it’s a diesel or gasoline, you’ll find them. You’ll find plenty of 4 runners, fortunes, tundras, hilux and Tacoma here along with the crossovers
The fact that the heated steering wheel button is on the passenger side drives me crazy. I get it’s a world-market vehicle, but at $77K I expect a certain level of refinement.
Lots of people that enjoy off-roading and don’t mind using the vehicle for what it was designed to do. Take the Ram Power Wagon for 1 example. I took mine everywhere and yes it got scratched up lots of dings and dents from logs, rocks and ice.
@@CoryTheCanadian So is my 4Runner, but I paid under $40k for it in 2019, but this twice more expensive and even if I could afford it, I would not risk beating it up like that...
@@ro5omax yes prices are getting crazy for sure , it seems the only way we can get an off road vehicle is if we pay for all the extras we don’t need. When I bought the power wagon in 2020 it was $80,000 with $10,000 off so $70,000 , go build a fully equipped one now and it’s north of $100,000 😂 I’d rather buy a Suzuki Jimny for $25,000 but they won’t bring them to Canada. But everyone thought I was crazy for off-roading my power wagon as if it was too nice to be damaged but it wasn’t good for anything except off-roading .
After 13 years with an FJ Cruiser and two 5th gen 4Runners, i have decided on the GX 550, because I honestly do not want a petrol turbo 4 cylinder in a heavy body-on-frame vehicle. I feel forced into this tbh, just to get away from turbo 4 cylinders. I wonder if Toyota considered using the turbo V6, without turbos, though i'm not sure how powerful it would be and tuning enough power might not efficient. Naturally aspirated, even with the hybrid option would have been an instant buy for me lol. This vehicle needs a Land Cruiser engine. Land Cruiser is not just a name badge. The exhaust note is depressing, because the 4Runner also sounds that way. I feel like I have nowhere to turn for a reliable truck based SUV with a with a proven engine. If Nissan would make an SUV version of the Frontier, I would be intrigued. I love that V6 in those trucks.
Well if anyone was wondering where Clark Griswold stores all of his imported Italian twinkle light strings when not in use, they are to be found in that engine bay.
Great video. Good and the bad simple and honest. Certain other Toyota RU-vidrs bashed the price of the 200 HE but are now great paying 80k for this. I just want to see how this does with 400lbs of bumpers, winch camping gear while pulling a trailer. Going to be a lot of stress on that engine. I am jealous of the external climate controls.
There’s a huge difference between improvement and just change for the heck of it. So no, I will not embrace “change”. I will welcome improvement. Sadly all Toyota has done is change.
The Land Cruiser trim is about $67,000 US Same price as the Tacoma hybrid so it’s not priced too bad compared to the Mexican taco or the upcoming 4Runner.
Beloved 2013 Rock Warrior Owner, humble subscriber and Obviously a, fan of your work. That said - The Price Destroys Any Further Joy Around This Land Cruiser - Thank You For Your Candor Sir
Never been a big fan of a full digital gauge cluster. I still love the analog and I think it’s because I just know it’s more durable and tested for so many years. Plus the fact that it’s nostalgic and just looks better. It’s the same way with watches and that’s why automatic watches are still better than digital/quartz, both in style and durability…nice review by the way!!!
Wow. Thank God I watched this. Literally every other review has been super-positive. Sounds like this vehicle was a huge disappointment! And all the comments make it clear that potential buyers would rather just have a simple old reliable 6 or 8-cylinder and not worry about fuel economy or torque. Lastly, it sounds like this is priced about $40,000 too high. Sounds like most people think this is worth about $30,000. Maybe they should buy a Mazda 3? IDK. Anyway, thanks!
I like the body of that truck if only it had the 4 L engine with five speed transmission from the current 4Runner. Sure it would get 1.3 miles per gallon less fuel economy, but does that really mean anything?
Great looking vehicle but way too overpriced. I’m not going to bash the 4 cylinders hybrid efficient engines BUT they do need to realize the pricing is idiotic. All these vehicles well the new Toyotas need to be $15-20k cheaper to make sense of a purchase.
No thank you… I don’t mind the 4 cylinder at all… but to add the complexity with a hybrid… no thank you… one or the other… hybrid is cool in a passenger car… but not in a vehicle like this. Land cruiser had their 250,000 mile goal for reliability. I’d be willing to bet that hybrid battery will never make it to 250,000 miles without severe degradation. It’s a sham to wear the Land Cruiser badge.
Even though I like the round headlights, the mid tier LC is the way to go. The first edition just doesn’t have that much to justify the huge price premium vs mid tier. I’d probably even skip the premium package as I feel softex would stand up to my dogs better and I hate the stupid cool box.
Current LC200 owner and have had 3 others, including another 200 and I have to say I LOVE my Cool Box. I drive a lot and use it EVERY DAY. It gets drinks very cold and pretty quickly. I can put 7 16-oz water bottles in it.
@TacticalStrudel If I drank shitty bottled water and wasn't in and out of the hot sun all day, I might feel the same. Serious question: What is it that you need to store in your vehicle? And, if you wanted to drink cold beverages all day (it doesn't cool just water), you'd either be stopping at gas stations all day or need to bring a cooler. If you're going to pack a cooler, you'd have to also pack it with ice. Whatever you'd store in the compartment, you can put in some sort of box and bring that along when you want it. And, not have to deal with ice. The only thing I might consider trading my cool box for would be something to hold my firearm in that would allow for discreet but quick access.
@@richardmiller3146 center console contains a medical kit, spare G17 in an easy to don/doff keepers the errand, spare mag that also fits my EDC G34, and some Kleenex. Insulated water bottle filled with filtered water and ice before leaving the house. And/or coffee in an insulated cup (fellow Carter wide 16oz). I don’t normally buy drinks from gas stations, if I buy a drink on the road it’s usually a coffee. All bottled water is shitty.
As a Land Cruiser fan (I’ve owned many LCs), I’m so disappointed in the new version. The 200 series was a great version of the Land Cruiser! Felt like a refined tank! I now have a GMC Sierra 1500 AT4x with Duramax and I must say it’s awesome! The interior is amazing as well as the drivetrain! It feels and drives tough but looks like a Cadillac inside (I have the AEV version). Toyota is definitely taking a weird new direction. It’s evident with their new vehicles (I have a 2024 Sequoia as well)
If wanting to do some offroad the 1958 is not worth it. It’s missing the unlock of the sway bar, and multi terrain mode: sand, mud etc. which permits greater wheel spins than otherwise. So that’s needed and not in the 1958. Very strange to have a LC that’s not high performance offroad or on mixed terrains. Beats buying a LC to start with, makes 0 sense to me. The LC LC is the way to go. At that point, might as well get the GX Overtrail for slightly more and even better offroad. Seeing the problems with the engine bearings in the dual-turbo V6, I am not so sure anymore regarding the GX. Putting steel inside an Aluminum engine block, is that the best thing to do?
This is not a new LC 200 though. The LC 200 was replaced with the LC 300. In Australia this 250 is the new Prado (LC's little bro). The current Prado model here is the 150. The new Prado here will be the 250 (this) in diesel, when it ever gets here. 'Land Cruiser' here in Aus refers to the LC 200/300. They're trying to confuse us all it seems. Looks nothing like the affordable & popular Prado we know here in Aus with the iconic spare wheel on the back & 150 litre fuel capacity.
It hits different because you’re getting a four cylinder for that money. Plus, this is not like the last Land Cruiser, this one is styled and marketed towards a different audience… not necessarily the doctors and lawyers. Finally, you are paying that much money without the option of a third row. Your questions are definitely warranted.
20:45 When you're offroading and going over bumpy roads, if your phone is on that wireless charger, is fixing to fly all over the car and possibly land on the floor. The old LC200 wireless charger is more compact and prevents the phones from flying all over the place.
This is not a Land Cruiser though, it’s a “Land Cruiser Prado”. Nothing wrong with the prado, but the fact that Toyota calls it a Prado everywhere else, and still sells a 300 series everywhere else, feels like they are trying to scam us by passing this off as a full size LC.
The "diaper" over the tow hitch is ridiculous. Not only does it look stupid, but you have to get on the ground and remove two plastic trim clips for removal every time you want to tow.
