My instructions do not say the same thing AT ALL. It plainly says to use 12g (2-3 TBSP) of coffee. Pour water over, let bloom 1 min. Stir 20 times, et steep 2 min, stir 20 more times, plunge, and repeat stirring and plunging as needed. For someone like me, who needs lots of coffee when travelling, this opens lots of possibilities! Including a cold brew option if you pack a Mason jar. I encourage you to try with the correct instructions. Be blessed!
This is basically a portable french press machine. I think if you adjust the water ratio and time, you can get a pretty decent coffee out of this. I'd say, try with 180g of water and 4 to 6 minutes brewing time. The issue I see with this option though, is that the mug lets a lot of heat escape during brewing, where a french press has a lid.
The thing about a French press is the coffee has lots of room to brew before bing pressed, I wanted to like and even purchase this gadget as it’s size would be convenient but all the waiting would make it hopeless in cooler temperature camping so I think I will pass on it.
I have a FRESCO FRENCH PRESS WAND exactly like this one and cost me $17….it works great…I love strong coffee and with 4 teaspoons of ground coffee, it makes a strong cup of coffee…..your grind is powder and powder of course doesn’t work well… you need a rough grind, not a fine grind….it takes me 1 minute and 30 seconds…. 1 minute of soaking and 30 seconds of stir and pumping…. You did it all wrong and anyone who ever used a French press will know this
i bought this from the kickstarter as well.... although the coffee part is not ideal, it can make a decent cup of coffee with it, just have to seep for longer time and stir for a longer period... (just try different ways to perfect).. however using this for tea was outstanding.... i only filled half full with loose leaf tea and processed same as for coffee and the results are outstanding....
I have found that a fine grind is the best, and to fill the container 50% to 75% full of grounds. I also recommend at least two minutes on the initial dip, swirling it around for at least 30 to 45 seconds, then let it finish out to 2 minutes, then use the plunger multiple time to force out more coffee flavor, sometimes doing it rapidly while submerged, 20 ro 30 times, then when you have the desired flavor profile, removed the device, and hit the plunger more, until you don't see an more water come out. This device works beautifully once you get the hang of things. I am also using a normal sized coffee cup, maybe 8oz. I agree that their instructions are lacking detail.
I have tried this, and I ended up with a very bitter brew and about a 1/4 inch of sludge at the bottom of the cup. I'm using a Baratza Preciso grinder which is pretty decent...same grind as I use for my Aeropress actually.
I use a medium grind, fill to about 80% (1/4" below the top of the microfilter), do a soak for a minute or two, swirl/dunk/plunge, more soaking for another minute or two, more swirling/dunking/plunging. When plunging, I tilt the device slightly as there is no microfilter on the bottom and more of the good stuff drips out. Perfect cup of coffee. I get no sludge at the bottom of my cup. The coffee is a rich color that mostly obscures the submerged Finalpress chamber. Totally agree the Finalpress instructions are quite poor and have to be disregarded. But anyone who says this device doesn't produce a good cup of coffee is incorrect. Minor modifications are all that's needed. And Finalpress needs to completely revise the instructions. ... Also note that Amazon sells knockoff devices that look similar but will never produce proper results.
I totally agree with you! Was looking so much forward to this. And be able to bring it outdoors. But the coffee taste like crap. And I know how to make coffee. It is not able to extract the right amount no matter how fine or coarse you go with the grind, or changing the ratios.
Crazy thing, that two teaspoons is roughly how much coffee is in the Nespresso pods. Somewhere between 3 to 5 grams. Difference being, Nespresso pods are designed to make something close to an espresso. This appears to just make murky sludgy coffee flavoured water.
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Welp, that's a bullet i dodged. Thanks for the review
Thanks for this video. Not all Kickstarter projects are successful, as you clearly demonstrated here. I've homeroasted for years, had a lot of experience with French press, full immersion/cone filter, and ultimately we settled on espresso for home use, but for travel, I'd think full immersion and cone filter would be be best and quickest. (I'd recommend paper in any method, including espresso, to reduce cafestol levels, a powerful elevator of LDL cholesterol in many people, including me, and an additional disadvantage of this device is there is no way to incorporate a paper filter)
Fines would be expected considering it is a mesh filter, your coffee has way more fines than you might think. I bet with a bit of experimentation you could easily make a decent cup, while it may not be your everyday its kind of a nice novelty for sure. Wondering if you would get better results with holes in the plunger bit so its more aggitating the coffee rather than compressing it.
Fill filter up until the top of the mesh, leavind like a millimeter of space at top so plunger can have room to press. Stir the Final Press in the coffee for about 30 sec then give a few presses of the plunger. Then lift Final Press out off coffee and press one last time to drain press and not let it drip everywehere. Better results.
So far, I've made two cups of coffee with it and I'm not impressed at all. I love the idea of it, but I seem to be in a tiny minority of people who aren't getting on with it (though after my experience, I'm pretty sceptical about the number of positive reviews it's received). I'm using 13g of Whittards pre-ground coffee. The first cup was like brown sadness water - waaaaay too weak (even though I steeped and stirred it for longer than the instructions suggested), and by the time I put milk in it, it was barely lukewarm. The second was a 14-hour cold brew (I have a mason jar mug which the Final Press lid fits perfectly) which was almost there but could probably have done with another few hours to be honest...but if I'm going to wait that long for cold brew, I'd rather just do it the old-fashioned way with half a pack of coffee in a cafetiere because I know that works perfectly. Save your money and buy an Aeropress instead.
Problem is that by the time you do all of this your coffee is lukewarm and you need to microwave it. And it doesn’t taste great. I will try using more coffee and see if that helps. The directions need to say “unscrew the plunger” as I had to google It to figure out how it works
I've been waiting for someone to upload their opinions on the Final Press since I got mine. I agree that the instructions on how to use it are quite poor and result in a super watered-down coffee. However, with some adjustments, I've been able to make a good brew that I'd be happy to drink on a daily basis. My grind is currently halfway between drip and espresso on my Kitchen-Aid grinder (grind size 53, whatever that means), and it ends up being 12 grams. To achieve somewhat of a bloom, I poor enough water to cover the FP, give it a swirl, and then pull it out for 30 seconds. After that, I put it back in, give it some swirls, and let it steep for 5 minutes. Once that's done, I give it a few presses, and I'm good to go. It's also worth noting that I'm brewing for 500ml of water. That's how much I normally make with my Chemex, so it was easier to make comparisons.
I have actually done some more testing and 12gr is what I have found is the practical "full" load you can put in the device as well. I will play some more with grind size, but at the price point, it's hard to justify this device when an Aeropress is $20 less and nearly bulletproof to use.
@@DanielBaird I agree with all of this. I got the v2 on Kickstarter and has a pathetically weak cup of coffee to start with. After playing around I can make an okay cup of coffee, but bizarrely I have to make it in my french press jug because I have my coffee with hot milk. So, in order to get this right I put the milk in my drinking cup, microwave it and then pour the coffee from my french press jug on the milk. So why not just make it in the french press? Which is precisely what I do. For travelling I take an aeropress with me. It is lightweight, durable and works perfectly. I am afraid that this finalpress is being stuck in the back of a kitchen cupboard.
@@tenbrooks83 the Aeropress could not be sold if it was not FDA approved for the intended use. Go check out their web site....they have a complete list of all the materials used. --- All materials used in AeroPress coffee makers are free of BPA and phthalates, and are FDA and EU approved for use in contact with food.
Pour over and french press are simple methods that need simple gear to make happen. All of these gadgets are for looks, not for performance. They get you to buy one because it looks cool, so that's the marketing and development focus.
WARNING! I recently purchased one of these gadgets via a well known 3rd party reseller. The product arrived in pieces and assembly was not easy. There was no manufacturers BRAND NAME on the product. I found that only occasionally did the plunger work correctly. Mostly it stuck and I couldn't press it down. The supplier gave me a 50% refund. Apparently there is an original version of this device which I assume might be Patented? These days, nearly all copies of the original design are made in China - buyer beware!
Hey bud, had basically the same opinion. I bought a hand grinder and this hoping for the perfect camping package but it was a fail. However. I used my home grinder to make an espresso grind. So quite fine and its really good.
That’s essentially just a tool to minimize time for the person who’s using. Maybe by adjusting the coffee grind level to a 2 or 3 to make it more coarse, maybe you won’t see that black stuff on the bottom.
Have you tried using ultra fine grounds and using it to brew in a small copper ibrik, for a kind of cleaner cup of Turkish coffee? That’s the only way I can think of to use this after watching
I'd closer compare this to a french press NOT a v60. You'd definitely want to bree for at least 4 minutes. I'd aslo be interested to know what grind size you used also.
The instructions are trash, and my first few cups were quite bad. But I've found that this works well: 10g medium ground coffee, pour a small bit of water over the grounds in the press without its lid/plunger attached and let bloom for 1 minute, attach plunger and fill mug with water (around 200g), stir for 10 seconds, brew for 5 minutes, stir for 10 seconds, plunge. I'm sure this doesn't turn out as good as pour over, but it's relatively quick and hands off and doesn't require any bulky coffee machine on my counter or paper filters, so I'm pretty happy with it all things considered. They just really need to provide better instructions so people don't end up with an awful, watery cup of joe.
I take it all back... afraid to say I had to switch over to a French press solution to get the strength and quality of brewing that I was looking for. The FinalPress brew was just too weak for me and it physically cannot accommodate enough coffee grounds to get the results I want
Wow nice review! I have never supported any Kickstarter products myself, but I have a feeling that much more of them fail than go through. Thanks for the review! Please do more of such
I'm interested with this FinalPress Unfortunatelly I don't get what i'm looking for here. Almost none of following fundamental of brewing coffee has been used, tried nor explained in this review: 1. Dosage 2. Grind size 3. Coffe to water ratio 4. Water temperature 5. Brewing time . You did not trying to find the best recipe with the coffee bean/ground that you had. . My biggest question is: is it produce better cup of coffee than V60 or Aero Press? . On their official website FAQ page there is an information as follow "FinalPress filter holds up to 17 grams of coffee, providing a generous amount for brewing a flavorful cup. This quantity surpasses the recommended ratio of 10 grams of coffee for a standard 175ml mug, ensuring a rich and satisfying coffee experience." That's all ... and i can't find another tips.
I actually weighed the recommended dose in the video and showed it. It is about 3.8gr. I then showed that I tried to use "6 tsp" (which is roughly 12gr) and you can see that the nearly filled the brew chamber. There is no way you can put 17gr in there without seriously packing the coffee. And, I mention this in the video...if you do that, you will impede the ability of water to saturate the grounds. I DID try to find a better recipe and was unable to get something that I found good. I still maintain that at the price point, you cannot beat an Aeropress. If you find a ratio that works for you, great. I cannot make it work for coffee. But, as I said in the video, for tea, the device is excellent.
That's why I just eat coffee! No hot water, no ground or roast, straight fruit off the tree! To teach butt-hurt complaining Ken-Karens how to get the best out of what little comfort-joys we have left in this world before the SHTF!
Nuts. I bought two on kickstarter. We often do just one cup at a time so this seemed great. I am Overseas so mine are still boxed up. Double nuts. How can they mess their product up so much. And lousy instructions? My wife is Japanese and we do a lot of tea as well so that is very good. I thought one for coffee and one for tea. Maybe two for tea? A lot of money to brew tea though. My first kickstarter purchase. At least me other purchase same week masvero wallet is almost great. For that I should have waited for 2.0.
It really is good for tea. I didn't demo that, but it works really well for tea. If you want a portable coffee brewer, you really can't go wrong with the Aeropress.
The included instructions are terrible. Their kickstarter video gives different instructions (mainly stir for 10-30 seconds vs 10 times lol) so who knows why the decision to include different instructions was made. I would be curious to see your opinion following the kickstarter video instructions. I personally thought it made a difference. Id also be curious about your thoughts on using it for coldbrew.
Why do reviewers and others insist on using the term 'teaspoon' - they are just repeating the dumb instructions provided by the manufacturer. Teaspoons are sold in various capacities, so we should ignore advice to use a teaspoon. Plus the finer the grind of coffee, the more in weight you achieve in a given space - eg. in this FinalPress basket. To make a mug of good strength coffee using a french press method you need at least 15 grams of medium-ground coffee and at least FOUR minutes brewing time.
A "teaspoon" is not sold in different sizes. It is a standardized kitchen measurement. If you are referring to a small kitchen spoon, and not a measuring device, then yes, there is no standard. But, saying "teaspoon" when measuring coffee, it is not an unreasonable assumption to assume you mean the standard measuring device. Grind size is indeed critical, and I used quite a fine grind here to match the short recommended brewing time in the instructions. A French Press has a much larger brewing area, so the coffee is spread out and can interact better with the water. With the Final Press, it is all packed tightly in the small basket, so the brewing physics aren't the same.
The product should work with the instructions. It is not too much to expect. If it doesn’t it’s a sign the manufacturer doesn’t care. We should not be forced to find our own solutions for a product. They are very welcome to send up updated instructions they know how to reach all of us.
@@DanielBaird A teaspoon in Europe is different than a U.S. teaspoon, for instance....traveling, i've seen many different sizes that claim to be a teaspoon measuring device.
yeah, just waited also for a few tests, got mine a few days ago and the first 3-5 coffees wasnt good and worked for me... so i adjust a few little things. first, i dont crush coffeebeans... i just bought regular, classic coffee ready for making. i fill this filter halfway and let the press at first away. i put in the hot water in a few steps, until the end of the filter is near, then i put the press on it and screw it light way. then i stir a few times... dont count it, the water gets way more darker, then i wait roughly one minute, push the press a few times and stir again. the result is rly good. sure... its not high end coffee^^ but u will get a good result with that extra tweaking. anyways, it will not get that deep dark coffee you would expect and its kind of waterish... but not as much as u follow that tiniy instructions in the box^^ i like it and i use it for making latte espresso with a good fat milk and some flavour from royal flavour... works fine for me :) and i would buy it again.
I've tried all sorts of grind sizes and doses. For me, I stress that...for ME...this just doesn't work. I have no doubt there are others that may find this to work. But, for me, quick, portable and great coffee = Aeropress. For TEA on the other hand, as I mentioned in the video...this thing is really great.
I figured it wasn’t gonna be earth shattering or anything. Having to keep the grounds steeping for minutes and minutes isn’t my cuppa joe. Some people like that I guess.
So you blindly listened to instructions, instead of just filling the thing up. Then you add way too much water and make it weak so determine its a failure…. Its coffee, work out the ratio to make it perfect for you
How is following the instructions, logically pointing out why they are not going to work, then trying to actually use more logic to try to make it work, and coming to a completely reasonable, test based conclusion ignorant? This device is not good for making coffee. For tea, it works great.
Coffee needs to be a coarser grind like Vietnamese drip coffee and cold brew coffee pots. Too find a grind the weaker the coffee and more sludge as water can't circulate. Not rocket science
Bro … mans literally had a digital scale and did exactly what the institutions said. The device makes no sense practically, it’s fine if you spent money on it, but it’s dumb
You know why its bad? Cuz its just product they sell in china and they rebranding on kickstarter. I have seen tons of these without name brand or different name
Interesting! Just got mine today so excited to try it when I get home. The use case for me is to be able to make coffee when I travel, I have other ways to do it when I'm at home.
Yeah there is absolutely zero reason for this product to exist. It'd be one thing if it worked decently well for travel, but since it only outputs mildly coffee-flavored water... yeah, nope. Everyone should use the Clever Dripper. It is the fastest, easiest, and most consistently quality way to make good coffee. With near zero cleanup. Usually, when it comes to making coffee, you can't have fast, easy, delicious, and zero cleanup. You usually have to pick two or so. Not with the Clever Dripper.
You must be an engineer and a coffee snob. If I had to break making coffee down to such analysis, I'd never drink it. It works great for individual cold brews. I haven't tried it for anything else. It makes the best cold brew I've made.
Engineer? Guilty as charged. I've also been roasting my own coffee for more than 10 years. Coffee snob? Maybe. But, I stand by my review. This thing is trying to take market share from a space that is ruled by Aeropress...which at about $30 is one of the best brewing devices you could ever own. The Finalpress is just not a good device for brewing coffee. And, cold brew? A mason jar + cheese cloth will produce incredible coffee...and a lot more of it...for 1/10th the cost.
@@DanielBaird "Finalpress is just not a good device for brewing coffee". ... Your opinion. Definitely not a fact. I also roast my own beans. FInalpress works great if you adjust to your preferred grind, brewing/swirling/plunging/resting times, which is not difficult to do. The result is great and (yes, in my opinion) not inferior to AeroPress.
Dude if you want people to take you seriously at least buy a tripod to hold your camera instead and f doing everything one handed. No confidence in your review at all .
